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* July 5, 2006 | * July 5, 2006 | ||
- | * ?? 6:30 pm - | + | * 6:45 pm - 8:30 pm |
===== Attendees ===== | ===== Attendees ===== | ||
- | * ?? Barry Morrison | + | * Craig Buchek |
- | * ?? Carl Fitch | + | * Carl Fitch |
- | * ?? Craig Buchek | + | * Ted Palmer |
- | * ?? Gary Myer | + | * Chris Byrd |
- | * ?? Lee Lammert | + | * Stan Reichardt |
- | * ?? Stan Reichardt | + | |
- | * ?? Ted Palmer | + | |
- | * ?? Tim Cross | + | |
===== Secretary Report ===== | ===== Secretary Report ===== | ||
- | * ?? Need to print out previous months' minutes for signature and inclusion in Secretary folder. | + | * Need to print out previous months' minutes for signature and inclusion in Secretary folder. |
- | * ?? Need to finish typing up minutes for March 3 board meeting and official annual meeting. | + | * Need to finish typing up minutes for March 3 board meeting and official annual meeting. |
+ | * There was some dispute about what was decided at the [[2006-04#board_meeting | Board meeting in April]]. | ||
+ | * The wording that was agreed to was "proposed fee structure for accounts/memberships". | ||
+ | * The proposed fee structure was listed as: | ||
+ | * Level 1: $35 (basic/shell) Shell | ||
+ | * Level 2: $65 (dial-up + shell) Sustaining | ||
+ | * Level 3: $100 ("professional") Professional | ||
+ | * Corporate Sponsorship: $200 | ||
+ | * Some are now saying that they only agreed to the $100 level. | ||
+ | * May be a moot point if we re-do the structure when we disband the dial-up accounts. | ||
+ | * Stan and Carl remember/understood it the way it was reported. | ||
===== Treasurer Report ===== | ===== Treasurer Report ===== | ||
- | * ?? No report. | + | * No report. Lee was out of town. |
+ | * Says we will run out of funds by May if we don't stop paying for dial-up lines. | ||
+ | * Has not provided data to back that up yet. | ||
+ | * Current balance: $1350 (approximate) | ||
+ | * Collected 1 $35 membership fee for 2006-2007. | ||
===== Book Sales ===== | ===== Book Sales ===== | ||
- | * ?? Sold 7 books in May for about $94. | + | * Sold 4 books in June for about $45. |
- | * ?? Sold x books in June for about $x. | + | * No new books ordered this year. |
- | * ?? No new books ordered this year. | + | * Stan suggested a fire sale to get rid of remaining inventory. |
+ | * Also raffle off books at meetings as door prizes. | ||
===== Previous Meetings ===== | ===== Previous Meetings ===== | ||
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Attendance figures for last 3 months: | Attendance figures for last 3 months: | ||
- | == 5 Apr STEERC - 5 ........ 3 May STEERC - 6 ........ 7 Jun STEERC - 6 == | + | 5 Apr STEERC - 5 ........ 3 May STEERC - 6 ........ 7 Jun STEERC - 6 |
- | == 12 Apr SLUUG - 17 ........ 10 May SLUUG - 37 ........ 14 Jun SLUUG - 15 == | + | 12 Apr SLUUG - 17 ........ 10 May SLUUG - 37 ........ 14 Jun SLUUG - 15 |
- | == 20 Apr STLLUG - 20 ........ 18 May STLLUG - 15(17)..... 15 Jun STLLUG - 23 == | + | 20 Apr STLLUG - 20 ........ 18 May STLLUG - 15(17)..... 15 Jun STLLUG - 23 |
- | == 25 Apr HZWLUG - 7 ........ 23 May HZWLUG - 7 ........ 22 Jun STCLUG - 8 == | + | 25 Apr HZWLUG - 7 ........ 23 May HZWLUG - 7 ........ 22 Jun STCLUG - 8 |
- | == 26 Apr SECURE - 8 ........ 24 May SECURE - 8 ........ 27 Jun HZWLUG - 7 == | + | 26 Apr SECURE - 8 ........ 24 May SECURE - 8 ........ 27 Jun HZWLUG - 7 |
- | == 27 Apr STCLUG - 9 ........ 25 May STCLUG - 11 ........ 28 Jun SECURE - 9 == | + | 27 Apr STCLUG - 9 ........ 25 May STCLUG - 11 ........ 28 Jun SECURE - 9 |
Figures in parenthesis is actual head count. | Figures in parenthesis is actual head count. | ||
+ | |||
+ | Chris volunteered to cross-promote our Security meetings at other local security groups (Infragaurd and ISSA). | ||
==== Comments on Presentations ==== | ==== Comments on Presentations ==== | ||
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=== SLUUG - June 14 === | === SLUUG - June 14 === | ||
* Base: Master Boot Records by Carl Fitch | * Base: Master Boot Records by Carl Fitch | ||
+ | * Pretty good. Lots of interaction. | ||
* NOT DONE: Secure Email by Dustin Anders and Paul Vinson of Slashmail (via Craig) | * NOT DONE: Secure Email by Dustin Anders and Paul Vinson of Slashmail (via Craig) | ||
- | * Main: Everything You (N)Ever Wanted to Know About Hard Drives by Creg Buchek | + | * Main: Everything You (N)Ever Wanted to Know About Hard Drives by Craig Buchek |
+ | * Excellent. Outstanding. | ||
+ | * Not too much feedback during presentation. People said they were busy absorbing content. | ||
=== STLLUG - June 15 === | === STLLUG - June 15 === | ||
* Again started main presentation at 7:00 PM. Seems to be working well. | * Again started main presentation at 7:00 PM. Seems to be working well. | ||
- | * Main: SUSE 10 by Matt Skipton of Novell (via Lee) | + | * Main: SUSE Enterprise Linux 10 by Matt Skipton of Novell (via Lee) |
+ | * Shiny stuff! XGL demo impressed most of us. | ||
+ | * Good interaction and questions. Lots of excitement. | ||
+ | * Good preview of the technology. Not terribly in-depth. | ||
+ | * Will be covering server side this coming month at SLUUG meeting. | ||
=== STCLUG - June 22 === | === STCLUG - June 22 === | ||
* Topic: Kids Programming Language (KPL) by Fred Smith | * Topic: Kids Programming Language (KPL) by Fred Smith | ||
+ | * Very interesting. Result of DISCUSS conversation. | ||
=== HZWLUG - June 27 === | === HZWLUG - June 27 === | ||
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* Processes and the ''ps, kill, and top'' commands | * Processes and the ''ps, kill, and top'' commands | ||
* CHMOD and the SUID and SGUID permissions | * CHMOD and the SUID and SGUID permissions | ||
+ | * Attendees are starting to participate more and ask good questions. | ||
=== Security - June 28 === | === Security - June 28 === | ||
* Topic: Basic Linux Security by Clarence Johnson | * Topic: Basic Linux Security by Clarence Johnson | ||
- | * Looking for for more volunteer presenters | + | * Basic, easy to follow. |
+ | * Looking for for more volunteer presenters. | ||
===== Presentation Schedule ===== | ===== Presentation Schedule ===== | ||
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=== SLUUG - July 12 === | === SLUUG - July 12 === | ||
- | * Base: TBD | + | * Base: Graylisting with Postgray (Making Spammers Wait) by Carl Fitch |
- | * Main: Novell SuSE in the Enterprise Space by Matt Skipton of Novell ( via Lee ) | + | * Main: Novell SUSE in the Enterprise Space by Matt Skipton of Novell (via Lee) |
=== STLLUG - July 20 === | === STLLUG - July 20 === | ||
- | * Stan R. WILL BE out of town - Need someone else to take attendance | ||
* Installing Ubuntu Linux from a Disk Image by Tony Lovasco of EPC (via Carl Fitch) | * Installing Ubuntu Linux from a Disk Image by Tony Lovasco of EPC (via Carl Fitch) | ||
+ | * NOTE: Stan will be out of town - Need someone else to take attendance | ||
=== HZWLUG - July 25 === | === HZWLUG - July 25 === | ||
- | * Stan R. might still be out of town - May need someone else to take attendance | ||
* Newbie Topics | * Newbie Topics | ||
* SUGGESTION: How To Update Your System - pkg, rpm, tar, apt, yum, yast, etc. | * SUGGESTION: How To Update Your System - pkg, rpm, tar, apt, yum, yast, etc. | ||
+ | * NOTE: Stan might still be out of town - May need someone else to take attendance | ||
=== Security - July 26 === | === Security - July 26 === | ||
- | * Stan R. might still be out of town - May need someone else to take attendance | + | * TOPIC: OpenVPN by Mark Buchanon (confirmed) |
- | * TOPIC: OpenVPN by Mark Buchanon | + | * NOTE: Stan might still be out of town - May need someone else to take attendance |
=== STCLUG - July 27 === | === STCLUG - July 27 === | ||
- | * Stan R. might still be out of town - May need someone else to take attendance | + | * TOPIC: Booting Multiple Live CD's from a Single CD-ROM or DVD by Mike Duncan |
- | * TBD | + | * NOTE: Stan might still be out of town - May need someone else to take attendance |
==== August 2006 ==== | ==== August 2006 ==== | ||
=== SLUUG - Aug 9 === | === SLUUG - Aug 9 === | ||
- | * Base: TBD | + | * Base: Intro to Metasploit Security Tool by Chris Byrd (TENTATIVE) |
* Main: Something by Scott Granneman (TENTATIVE, via Gary) | * Main: Something by Scott Granneman (TENTATIVE, via Gary) | ||
- | * - Get abstract/bio and confirm date. | + | * Get abstract/bio and confirm date. |
=== STLLUG - Aug 17 === | === STLLUG - Aug 17 === | ||
* Main: InkScape - Mark Jarnowski (TENTATIVE, via Craig) | * Main: InkScape - Mark Jarnowski (TENTATIVE, via Craig) | ||
- | * - Get abstract/bio and confirm date. | + | * Get abstract/bio and confirm date. |
=== HZWLUG - Aug 22 === | === HZWLUG - Aug 22 === | ||
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=== Security - Aug 23 === | === Security - Aug 23 === | ||
- | * TBD | + | * Hands-On: Metasploit by Chris Byrd |
=== STCLUG - Aug 24 === | === STCLUG - Aug 24 === | ||
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=== SLUUG - Sep 13 === | === SLUUG - Sep 13 === | ||
* Base: TBD | * Base: TBD | ||
- | * Main: Search Engine Optimization and Web Services by Jeff Heaton (TENTATIVE, via Ted) | + | * Main: Secure Email by Dustin Anders and Paul Vinson of Slashmail (via Craig) |
- | * - Get abstract/bio and confirm date. | + | |
=== STLLUG - Sep 21 === | === STLLUG - Sep 21 === | ||
* Main: TBD | * Main: TBD | ||
- | * - Get abstract/bio and confirm date. | ||
=== HZWLUG - Sep 26 === | === HZWLUG - Sep 26 === | ||
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* Base: TBD | * Base: TBD | ||
* Main: TBD | * Main: TBD | ||
- | * - Get abstract/bio and confirm date. | ||
=== STLLUG - Oct 19 === | === STLLUG - Oct 19 === | ||
* Base: TBD | * Base: TBD | ||
* Main: TBD | * Main: TBD | ||
- | * - Get abstract/bio and confirm date | ||
==== Potential Presentations ==== | ==== Potential Presentations ==== | ||
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* Music - Linux on iPod, iPod on Linux, Ogg, players, etc. | * Music - Linux on iPod, iPod on Linux, Ogg, players, etc. | ||
* Using Secure Email Clients | * Using Secure Email Clients | ||
+ | * TrueCrypt - file-level encryption for Windows/Linux | ||
+ | * One-Time Passwords | ||
===== Weekly Announcements ===== | ===== Weekly Announcements ===== | ||
- | * Stan R. has recently gotten a number of positive comments on Weekly Events. | + | * Stan has recently gotten a number of positive comments on Weekly Events mailings. |
- | * Stan R. has started experimenting with SED & AWK scripts to automate build. | + | * Stan has started experimenting with SED & AWK scripts to automate build. |
===== Sponsorships ===== | ===== Sponsorships ===== | ||
- | * ?? Lee working to send out invoices to previous sponsors. ($200) | + | * Lee working to send out invoices to previous sponsors. ($200) |
- | * ?? Clarence and Stan R. will start working to gather information about previous sponsors. | + | * Clarence and Stan R. will start working to gather information about previous sponsors. |
- | * ?? Starting with information from the web site. | + | * Starting with information from the web site. |
===== Website Librarian ===== | ===== Website Librarian ===== | ||
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* Previously stopped after year 2000. | * Previously stopped after year 2000. | ||
* Accuracy not high, about 5 months missing. | * Accuracy not high, about 5 months missing. | ||
- | * ?? Stan R. working with Ted to get presentations put up. | + | * Stan R. working with Ted to get presentations put up. |
- | * ?? Ted not comfortable with ''librarian'' as a title, but the goal remains to gather the materials. | + | * Ted not comfortable with ''librarian'' as a title, but the goal remains to gather the materials. |
- | * ?? Ted has gotten some of the older presentations gathered. | + | * Ted has gotten some of the older presentations gathered. |
- | * ?? Ted's major emphasis will be to focus on getting the material from presenters. | + | * Ted's major emphasis will be to focus on getting the material from presenters. |
- | * ?? We anticipate HTML to be the most desirable format, followed by PDF. | + | * We anticipate HTML to be the most desirable format, followed by PDF. |
===== System Administration ===== | ===== System Administration ===== | ||
- | * ?? Mike Knight reported on a recurring rebooting issue with Dark. | + | * Spoofing of old email address on DISCUSS mailing list. |
- | * ?? Mike Knight reported on a recurring issue with one of the modems. | + | * Mike Knight found old board member names still allowed to post. |
- | * Spoofing of old email address on DISCUSS mailing list | + | * Porblem has hopefully been resolved. |
- | * Mike Knight found old board member names still allowed to post | + | |
===== PROJECT: New servers ===== | ===== PROJECT: New servers ===== | ||
- | * ?? Configured SLUUG.ORG web site on new server. | + | * Need to complete migration to new servers. |
- | * ?? Copied over all the data. | + | * Chris volunteered to help. |
- | * ?? Configured a redirect back to old systems for user pages for short-term. | + | * Has good Drupal experience. |
- | * ?? Will redirect to users.sluug.org, which can remain in place after the full migration. | + | * Has done Linux administration. |
- | * ?? This will allow us to move the web site without having to move the users. | + | * Craig has a 1U UltraSparc with Solaris 10 to donate and install at Primary. |
- | * ?? Need to determine how to do the mailing list sign-up pages. | + | |
- | * ?? Need to determine how to proceed with non-SLUUG sites we host. | + | |
- | * ?? Next step is to test the new site, before we point our production DNS there. | + | |
- | * ?? Make sure everything is there and working. | + | |
- | * ?? Make sure we copy over any updates from the old web site. | + | |
- | * ?? Make sure the redirect to user pages is working. | + | |
- | * ?? Make sure the SIG sites/pages work. | + | |
- | * ?? Get the mailing list sign-up pages to work. | + | |
- | * ?? Craig is working on email infrastructure. | + | |
- | * ?? He made some progress, but is not quite finished. | + | |
- | * ?? Got some input on how to proceed from the others. | + | |
- | * ?? We need some versa-rails to mount the servers. | + | |
- | * ?? Lee measured the depth of the rails - 28.5 inches front to back. | + | |
- | * ?? Need to be mounted on a Compaq 4U server. | + | |
- | * ?? Craig has a 1U UltraSparc with Solaris 10 to donate and install at Primary. | + | |
- | * ?? We could use a rackmount switch. | + | |
- | * ?? Carl has a 12-port rackmount hub he will donate. | + | |
===== Old Business ===== | ===== Old Business ===== | ||
- | * ?? Missouri Exempt status - (Carl Fitch and Lee Lammert, with help from Fred Smith's wife) | + | * Missouri Exempt status - (Carl Fitch and Lee Lammert, with help from Fred Smith's wife) |
- | * ?? Carl has the forms. Working to finish filling them out. Will hand them off to Lee. | + | * Carl has the forms. Working to finish filling them out. Will hand them off to Lee. |
- | * ?? Gary will take forms to Rich McClennan to get help answering some of the questions. | + | * Gary will take forms to Rich McClennan to get help answering some of the questions. |
- | * ?? See about O'Reilly bringing someone in to speak to our group(s). | + | * Craig needs to work to write up new membership info. |
- | * ?? Carl will follow up. | + | * See previous minutes for full details. |
- | * ?? Stan R. proposed we clean house, and send any excess inventory to WITS. | + | ===== New Business ===== |
- | * ?? Suggested someone other than Stan R. volunteer | + | |
- | * ?? Craig needs to work to write up new membership info. | + | * Carl **MUST** submit annual report to the state by July 15 to keep us in business. |
- | * ?? See last month's minutes for full details. | + | * Carl will have forms filled out by July 12. |
- | * ?? Gary sent email to reduce dial-up lines to 4. | + | * We seem to be proceeding with dropping dial-up once the current term expires. |
+ | * Stan suggested keeping 1 dial-up line for ememergency access to Wash U systems. | ||
+ | * Those in attendance agreed that this was a good idea. | ||
+ | * Lee suggested we drop the dial-up lines on September 30. | ||
+ | * Gary suggested we give users 90 days notice. | ||
+ | * The proposal is actually 80 days+. | ||
+ | * Those in attendance agreed this was a good idea. | ||
- | * ?? Lee found a dial-up service at Primary Networks for $120/year. | + | * Mike Knight asked if we should delete suspected spam emails, without letting users see them. |
- | * ?? This could be a fall-back if we can no longer provide that service. | + | * It was suggested that it would be good to delete **some** emails. |
- | * ?? We need to re-assess cost of phone lines at the end of this year. | + | * Those with really high spam scores. |
- | + | * It was agreed that Mike could set the threshold to a conservative value of his choice. | |
- | * ?? Stan R. has removed many of our email aliases. | + | |
- | * ?? Most of them only collected spam. | + | |
- | * ?? Needs to make a few alias changes still. | + | |
- | * ?? Updated the contacts page. | + | |
- | * ?? Needs to make a few more changes to the web site still. | + | |
- | + | ||
- | ===== New Business ===== | + | |
- | * ?? Craig proposes that a BBS Committee be formed. | + | |
- | * ?? They will ensure financial viability of the BBS. | + | |
- | * ?? They will report to Steering Committee on continuing viability at least quarterly. | + | |
- | * ?? Or else the BBS service will be canceled the following year. | + | |
- | * ?? If no committee is formed by interested parties, the BBS service will be canceled the following year. | + | |
- | * ?? Carl says that 12 people have used the dial-up over the past year. | + | |
- | * ?? Carl will inform all these current users about our plans. | + | |
- | * ?? Primary Networks offers dial-up service. | + | |
- | * ?? For $8/month, users can get basic dial-up. | + | |
- | * ?? For $10/month, users can get nation-wide dial-up. | + | |
- | * ?? Carl said it is an option to resell Primary's dial-up. | + | |
- | * ?? Despite notification that we'd discuss this, nobody who cares showed up. | + | |
- | + | ||
- | * ?? We seem to be proceeding with dropping dial-up once the current term expires. | + | |
- | * ?? Gary seems resigned to letting go of the dial-up. | + | |
- | * ?? Gary has started the process of notifying current users. | + | |
- | + | ||
- | * ?? Craig suggested that we may need to set procmail to delete spam of a certain rating. | + | |
===== Blue Sky ===== | ===== Blue Sky ===== | ||
- | * ?? Carl suggested we remove the passwords from mailing list archives. | ||
- | * ?? Craig thinks that Mhonarc does not strip email addresses from the message bodies. | ||
- | * ?? Barry will look into stripping email addresses from bodies on new servers. | ||
- | * ?? Stan R. suggested we hold the occasional meeting at some other location. | + | ===== Follow-up and Action Items ===== |
- | * ?? Or a joint meeting with some other group. | + | |
- | * ?? Java groups. | + | |
- | * ?? Web Developers. | + | |
- | * ?? LAMP would be a great topic. | + | |
+ | * Carl - **MUST** complete annual report for state by July 12. | ||
+ | * Carl - Complete state exempt status paperwork. | ||
+ | * Chris and Craig - Work on migrating to new servers. | ||
+ | * Craig - Confirm Dustin Anders and Paul Vinson for September 13 presentation. | ||
+ | * Tell them to spend at least half the time on client-side (PGP). | ||
+ | * Get abstract/bio. | ||
+ | * Follow up at monthly intervals. | ||
+ | * Craig - Print out meeting minutes for inclusion in secretary folder. | ||
+ | * Craig - Write up info on membership levels for web site and hand-outs. | ||
+ | * Lee - Submit treasurer reports. | ||
+ | * Lee - Finish QuickBooks transfer & financials. | ||
+ | * Barry - Look into Webmin and Majordomo/Mailmain for new servers. | ||
+ | * Need to be able to preserve the archives. | ||
+ | * Gary - Talk to people about presentations (see above). | ||
+ | * Tim - Contact Mark Russell about presenting at Security group. | ||
+ | * Stan - Update web sites. | ||
+ | * Ted and Stan - Upload presentations to web archive. | ||
- | ===== Follow-up and Action Items ===== | ||
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- | * ?? Carl - Complete tax-exempt status paperwork. | ||
- | * ?? Craig - Get abstract/bio from Dustin Anders and Paul Vinson. | ||
- | * ?? Tell them to spend at least half the time on client-side (PGP). | ||
- | * ?? Craig - Print out meeting minutes for inclusion in secretary folder. | ||
- | * ?? Craig - Continue working on new servers. | ||
- | * ?? Recruit testers in preparation to move www.sluug.org site. | ||
- | * ?? Complete email configuration. | ||
- | * ?? Craig - Write up info on membership levels for web site and hand-outs. | ||
- | * ?? Lee - Get abstract/bio from Matt Skipton of Novell. | ||
- | * ?? Lee - Finish QuickBooks transfer & financials. | ||
- | * ?? Barry - Look into Webmin and Majordomo/Mailmain for new servers. | ||
- | * ?? Need to be able to preserve the archives. | ||
- | * ?? Ted - Get abstract/bio from Jeff Heaton and confirm date. | ||
- | * ?? Gary - Talk to people about presentations (see above). | ||
- | * ?? Tim - Contact Mark Russell about presenting at Security group. | ||
- | * ?? Stan R. - Update web sites. | ||
- | * ?? Stan R. - Upload presentations to web archive. |