NOTE: Minutes posted on the wiki are always unofficial. Schedules for upcoming presentations are always tentative. (Some more tentative than others!)

Saint Louis Bread Company,
(at Old Olive and Olive),
10550 Old Olive Street Road,
Creve Coeur, MO 63141

• Wednesday, November 5, 2008
• 6:50 PM - 8:29 PM

• Carl Fitch
• Stan Reichardt
• Jeff Muse
• Lee Lammert
• Gary Meyer

• THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 3rd MEETING:
• No report

• Balance: $1,346.55 as of 10/31/08
• Expenses: $94 for PO Box
• Receipts (pending submission):
  • Carl - Annual registration fee to State of Missouri
  • Craig - Submit receipt for voice recorder.
  • Gary - Turn in receipt for domain registration.
• Need suggestions for following up with and attracting potential Sponsors.

• Numbers, as of end of October 2008:

• No - indicates no meeting.
• NA - Not part of SLUUG
• () - Numbers in parentheses are head count.
• ? - Question mark indicates attendance not taken or sheet missing.
• xx - attendance numbers not yet recorded.
• Dropped reference to LDAP meetings.

• Subscriber numbers (approximate) as of end of October 2008:

• Numbers will now be as end of each month.
• Blocking of mailing list attachments not completely configured yet.

• ANNOUNCE mailing list.
  • Still no volunteer editor to do a Quarterly or monthly newsletter.

• NOT reviewed at last STEERCOM meeting.
• Meetings are usually on 4th Tuesday (would have been 23rd).
• Because of Prairie Commons Library Branch September schedule we had to switch to 5th Tuesday.
• The STEERCOM meeting was also held this same evening, one day early.
• Topics are usually determined by attendees. We sometimes cover more than one.
• TOPIC: Using SSH -X to run X Windows System applications remotely
• New projector really helped enhance the meeting for the members!

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• Linux Configuration Workshop - No presentation.
  • Observations.

• BASE: Waived in liu of main presentation.
• MAIN: VMWare 6.5 & Server 2.0 by Matt Skipton, VMware (via Lee)
  • Very good information and skilled presentation.
  • Even with extra time, it still ran over.
  • Lots of follow up DISCUSS list activity.

• TOPIC: Bob Netherton ZFS as a root file system
  • Lots of new interesting features.
  • Excellent presentation.
  • Expect that Bob Netherton will be moving back to St. Louis within next 6 months.

• TOPIC: Live Demo of Teaming and Conferencing Server by Gary Hollingsworth
  • Good handout and talk. Actual virtual machine would not work, will try again next month.

• TOPIC: The Do Good Gauge by Scott Nesler
  • See Do Good Gauge concept
  • Took long time to build background, but lots of participation.
  • Actual technical tools were amazing and facinating.
  • Scott carried it off, quite well.

• TOPIC: Nexradis Release Party
  • Really great cake!
  • Suprizingly large turn out. Much particiption.
  • We would like to get him to do it again at St. Louis LUG.
  • Well run, well planned and really cool.

• Topics are usually determined by attendees. We sometimes cover more than one.
  • TOPIC1: The Lightning add-on to Thunderbird and Google STL computer events
  • TOPIC2: Exploring the /var directory (was not done in September). Will continue next month.
  • TOPIC3: ??
  • Posted a general review of the meeting on DISCUSS. No responses.
  • We need to remember to move video projector further back from screen.
  • Other observations.

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• Linux Configuration Workshop - No presentation.

• Veterans Day

• BASE: What's a wajig (and why should your care) by Carl Fitch
• MAIN: Booting PC Style! by Rich Seibel (via Gary - need to confirm the date)
  • ABSTRACT: This is what happens BEFORE GRUB or LILO on x86 PC hardware with standard BIOS - stages 1, 2, and 3. A hardware talk, but some references to how it varies from OS to OS. NOT PXE or EFI.

• TOPIC: TBD Jeff is at an Ambassadors meeting today in Calif. He can bring back odds & ends from there to discuss but would appreciate if ANYONE ELSE can provide a talk. (via Gary) J

Jeff Muse and Carl Fitch will be setting up a dedicated DNS server in a zone (SUN virtual machine) during the meeting. Participation will be appreciated.

• TOPIC: TBD Will demo be working for the meeting?

• TOPIC: Rick Clark (Ubuntu topic) (via Craig (Craig is following up this week, via Gary this PM))

• HOLIDAY Schedule - need to avoid conflict with Thanksgiving Day
• November meeting will be canceled due to scheduling problems.

• Topics are usually determined by attendees. We sometimes cover more than one.
  • OPTION1: Continued exploration of /var directory.
  • OPTION2: Exploring the GNOME File Manager
  • OPTION3: Partitions
  • OPTION4: Anything else.

• Thanksgiving Day

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• Linux Configuration Workshop - No presentation.

• BASE: TBD
• MAIN: Possibly Scott Granneman's new Google Book ???Nice to get a different speaker? (via Gary)
• MAIN: Social Software used in the McCain-Obama Presidential Election

by Scott Granneman (via Gary)

• TOPIC: TBD
• May probably cancel due to holiday season.

• TOPIC: TBD
• May probably cancel due to holiday season.

• Holiday schedule.
• Topics are usually determined by attendees. We sometimes cover more than one.
  • OPTION1: Exploring the GNOME File Manager
  • OPTION2: Partitions
  • OPTION3: Anything else.

• TOPIC: TBD

• HOLIDAY Schedule - need to avoid conflict with Christmas Day
• TOPIC: Favorite Applications (sort of like keyboard kareoke). CLI or GUI.

• Christmas Day

These are some people who can present, and possible topics they can speak about.

• Don Hardaway and Craig Van Slyke (St. Louis University)
  • TOPIC: Open Source on the Desktop: Why Not?
  • Gary to contact them to request a presentation from them.
  • See first article here
• John Hodge
  • TOPIC: APV (Advance POWER Virtualization) Overview
• IBM (via John Hodge)
  • TOPIC: AIX 6
  • TOPIC: POWER 6 CPU architecture
• Wehrenberg Theaters (via Gary)
  • TOUR/DEMO: Digital cinema projectors
• Sanjiv Bhatia (or someone from UMSL, via Lee)
  • TOPIC: Open Grid Computing
  • December or January
• David Letscher (Prof of CS at SLU) (via Gary)
  • TOPIC: TBD
  • Still gone for summer. Awaiting details.
• Rick Clark (Ubuntu) (via Craig)
  • TOPIC: TBD
  • Not available until October
  • Might be able to talk to STCLUG and STLLUG
• Jeff Logullo (Sun)
  • TOPIC: MySQL - now a Sun product
  • TOPIC: Project Indiana, a new package mngmnt system ala apt/dpkg
  • TOPIC: Versioning filenames (snapshots?) in ZFS
  • TOPIC: New release of ZFS
  • TOPIC: Belenix & other live CD's based on Open Solaris
• Scott Nesler
  • TOPIC: GIMP (follow-up from previous presentation)
• Jeff Muse
  • TOPIC: various Solaris topics
• Ed Howland (via Gary)
  • TOPIC: Last.fm, Amarok, etc. - free music downloads
  • TOPIC: Building a modern kernel
• Stan Reichardt
  • TOPIC/DEMO: Google Calendar
  • TOPIC/DEMO: Using Scribus
• Tim Dreste (via Stan R)
  • TOPIC: Untangle Gateway Platform
  • TOPIC: CentOS Linux
• unknown (via Carl)
  • TOPIC: EnterpriseDB (packaged version of PostgreSQL)
  • Would be a video-conference, so requires solving logistics problems

These are some topics that we've had requested, or brainstormed, but need to find speakers for.

• Technology and Politics
  • Where do politicians stand on issues important to our group?
  • Issues - intellectual property, privacy vs surveilance, subsidies & incentives, Common Carrier
  • National, state, and local candidates and parties
  • Would need to do in Sept or Oct.
  • Tim Dreste might be able to get someone from Todd Akin's office to speak with us.
  • Craig is talking to someone involved w/ the Obama campaign.
  • Scott Nesler offered to present Do Good Gauge concept as a main topic or lead in.
• Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 (RHEL 5)
  • Still looking for volunteer; tried Clark Smith at Red Hat
• Fedora recent releases
• SuSE or OpenSUSE recent releases
  • Someone from Novell?
  • Gary Hollingsworth?
• HP-UX current release, features, future
  • Dave Mills?
  • HP corporate?
• iSCSI
• Using git
• CPUs
  • Features of modern Intel/AMD CPUs
  • x86-64
  • x86, x86-64, IA64, Sparc, PowerPC, ARM, POWER
• iPhone
  • Developing for (web, native)
• iPhone competitors
  • LG Dare
  • Samsung Instinct
  • Other Linux-based phones
  • LiMo versus Google Android
• Linux from scratch.
• Installation from source - config, make , make install, etc.
• SplashTop - a quick booting distro.

• THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF AUGUST 6th MEETING:
• Current paying sponsors have been asked to renew with nice letter in April.
  • Gary - Ask Ajilon about continuing $200 sponsorship.
  • Craig - Ask S3 - Strategic Staffing Solutions (follow up)
• Potential sponsors
  • Sun - Jeff Logullo
  • IBM - (John Hodge may have a contact)
  • Red Hat - Clark Smith (Craig to follow up)
  • Canonical/Ubuntu (Craig to follow up)
  • VMware - Matt Skipton
  • We should review them once or twice annually and establish an end date on recognition.
• Need sign about sponsoring our group for booth/table display at meetings and trade shows.
• More effort should be directed to find new sponsors.
  • No effort means no more new sponsors.
• Syllogistics paid twice for a corporate sponsorship,
  • the 2nd check will be returned with a nice thank-you letter

• THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF AUGUST 6th MEETING:
• Need to break into the Sun machines again and reset passwords so they do not expire!
  • Carl suggests connecting serial ports on bud to serial console on Sun boxes.
    • Could then boot into single user mode.
    • Would need to install minicom to access serial TTY.
• Should we setup our own DNS on Bud/Budlight & switch over.
  • Make our own servers authoritative for our own domains.
  • Would allow us to publish reverse records.
    • Primary has said they can allow this.
  • Would allow us to publish SPF records.
  • We could offer dyanmic DNS services to our members.
    • On a subdomain, such as users.sluug.org
• We have 2 Sun E250s, which are currently racked but not connected.
  • Carl proposed parting out those boxes.
  • Craig concurred.
• Jeff Muse added Ultra and Busch - Sun Netra running Solaris 10.
  • Xepect to use one like Bud and one for backup storage
  • Will use the 2 Sun E250s for bacdkup storage.
  • Want to ask for a bunch of Ultra SCSI 160 or 320 speed disc drives, size 36 Gb or better.

• THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF AUGUST 6th MEETING:
• Craig has updated some of the documentation recently, as he built systems based on our docs.
• Backups
• Craig was to get together with Mike and/or Carl to work on tasks in July
• Work left to do:
  • Make sure docs are up to date.
    • Add documentation telling users how to configure mail clients to use Bud.
    • Started documenting client email configurations, to help users migrate.
    • See users and mail_setup pages.
  • Craig - Work on finishing server builds.
    • Document changes to PAM to correct MAIL variable. (Craig)
    • More security, for SSH and otherwise.
    • Get offsite backups working. (Mike)
    • Publish SSH host keys on web page.
    • Standardize/regularize user accounts (IDs, password expirations). (Mike)
• Other work to do:
  • Better web site management tools
  • Document useradd process.
  • Develop standardized 'Membership List' & same UIDs on all production machines.

• THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF AUGUST 6th MEETING:
• Noel asked that we allow current email users to keep their SLACC.COM email addresses.
• The registration is paid up until 2009.
• Carl - follow up with Noel about transferring the SLACC.COM domain to us.
• Check on SLACC.ORG - it seems to have changed recently - cybersquatter?

• THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF AUGUST 6th MEETING:
• SNUG attendance sheets and temporary web page made.
  • Still need to add SNUG members to Discuss & Announce.

• We had 2 new memberships this month. Carl will coordinate with Mike.
• Rest is tabled until next month.
• Membership drive
  • Need to print out name tags.
    • Omnitec will print them out and bring to SLUUG meeting.
• Cafe Press merchandise
  • Carl/SLUUG/Lee need to reconcile demo merchandise
• Lee has proposed to sell pizzas as fund-raiser if continued insufficient Memberships & Sponsors.

• THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF AUGUST 6th MEETING:
• Need new STLLUG chairperson.
  • Need new chair.
  • Craig can not do anymore.

• Structure/timing/flow of meetings
  • working better.
  • Need more demos.

• Lee suggested we create a Rails app on Bud to manage the group.
  • Member data - payments, expirations, etc.
  • Sponsors - expirations, etc.
  • Attendance
  • STL Ruby Group is writing a similar application.
    • RAMS - Rails Association Management System
    • We should leverage that, and guide it to our needs
  • Scott Nesler has built an app for attendance
    • Stan has plugged data into it for the year
    • Not sure if the app fits any of our other needs
      • (app is developed on CakePHP MVC architecture).
      • Member Payment, expiration would be simple addition to existing table/screens.
      • CRUD functionality simplifies expanding the application with additional tables.
      • Compartmentalization of CSS and layout templates simplifies changes to the look and feel.

• SBE was again be at St. Charles Convention Center. Total cost $190.
• SBE was on same day as usual STEERCOM meeting.
  • Very busy, excellent booth, good wall for projector image.
• Was worthwhile.
• Carl getting lots of email.

• St. Louis County Library room reservations are made for next year on the first Saturday in October.
• Carl Fitch made SLACC reservations for Thornehill Branch. No January meeting.
• Suggest geeky demo of gadgets, blackberries, iPods, etc.
• Lee Lammert made STLLUG reservations for Indian Trails Branch.
• Stan Reichardt made HZWLUG reservations for Prairie Commons Branch.

• Scott Nesler purchased and donated www.stclug.org domain.
• Domain expires mid December.
• Do we want to assume ownership? Otherewise Scott will let it expire.
• Approved, we will start using.
• Need to add to Apache configuration.

• None.

• THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 3rd MEETING:
• Gary - Contact Don Hardaway and Craig Van Slyke (St. Louis University).
• Gary - Follow up on political topics for October STLLUG.
• Craig - Make sure change of registered agent form got mailed in.
• Craig - Contact Rick Clark (Ubuntu) about presenting at October or November STLLUG.
• Lee - Need list to print out name tags for paying members.
• Carl - Follow up w/ SLACC leader.
• Carl - Get with Mike to set up accounts for new members. (Lee has the info.)
• Barry - Follow up w/ John Hodge about a presentation in the near future.
• Lee, Barry - Get someone from IBM to talk about POWER6, AIX 6.0, etc.
• Craig - Email Jim Leingang @ S3 about $200 sponsorship.

• Everyone - Talk to someone about coming to meetings.
• Everyone - Talk to someone about sponsorships.
• Everyone - Talk to someone about giving a presentation.