NOTE: Minutes posted on the wiki are always unofficial. Schedules for upcoming presentations are always tentative. (Some more tentative than others!)

Saint Louis Bread Company,
(at Old Olive and Olive),
10550 Old Olive Street Road,
Creve Coeur, MO 63141

• Wednesday, December 3, 2008
• 6:30 PM -

• Carl Fitch
• Stan Reichardt
• Jeff Muse
• Lee Lammert
• Gary Meyer
• Craig Buchek

• THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 3rd MEETING:
• No report

• THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 3rd MEETING:
• Balance: $ as of 9/3/08
• Receipts (pending submission):
  • Carl - Annual registration fee to State of Missouri
  • Craig - Submit receipt for voice recorder.
  • Gary - Turn in receipt for domain registration.
• Open issues:
  • Lee - Follow up drafting reply to Wash U.
  • Final bill from Wash U. - need to complete reply
• Need suggestions for following up with and attracting potential Sponsors.

Gary suggests we discuss why the #s on the general meeting and STLlug are so low! What can be done to return them to maore traditional values? Also relate to subscriptions to ANNOUNCE.

* Numbers, as of end of November 2008:

• No - indicates no meeting.
• NA - Not part of SLUUG
• () - Numbers in parentheses are head count.
• ? - Question mark indicates attendance not taken or sheet missing.
• xx - attendance numbers not yet recorded.
• Dropped reference to LDAP meetings.

• Gary suggests we talk about what can be done about the declining subscriptions to ANNOUNCE.

A ~20% drop in 18 months! (And it was over 1000…when?)

• Subscriber numbers (approximate) as of end of November 2008:

• Numbers will now be as end of each month.
• Blocking of mailing list attachments not completely configured yet.

• ANNOUNCE mailing list.
  • Still no volunteer editor to do a Quarterly or monthly newsletter.

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• Linux Configuration Workshop - No presentation.
• Library bumped us out of large room.

• Veterans Day

• BASE: What's a wajig (and why should your care) by Carl Fitch
• MAIN: Booting PC Style! by Rich Seibel (via Gary - need to confirm the date)
  • ABSTRACT: This is what happens BEFORE GRUB or LILO on x86 PC hardware with standard BIOS - stages 1, 2, and 3. A hardware talk, but some references to how it varies from OS to OS. NOT PXE or EFI.

• TOPIC: Dedicated DNS Server in a Zone, by Jeff Muse and Carl Fitch.
• Showed how to set up a dedicated DNS server in a zone (SUN virtual machine) during the meeting.

• TOPIC: TBD Was demo working for the meeting?

• TOPIC: Nexradix™ Linux by Tony Lovasco

• HOLIDAY Schedule - needed to avoid conflict with Thanksgiving Day
• November meeting was canceled due to scheduling problems.

• Topics are usually determined by attendees. We sometimes cover more than one.
  • TOPIC: Partitioning and Making File Systems with MKFS

• Thanksgiving Day

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• Linux Configuration Workshop - No presentation.

• BASE: TBD
• MAIN: Possibly Scott Granneman's new Google Book ???Nice to get a different speaker? (via Gary)
• MAIN: Social Software used in the McCain-Obama Presidential Election

by Scott Granneman (via Gary)

• TOPIC: Dedicated DNS Server in a Zone, Continued
• Participation will be appreciated.

• Holiday schedule, one week early.
• Topics are usually determined by attendees. We sometimes cover more than one.
  • OPTION1: Continued exploration of /var directory.
  • OPTION2: Exploring the GNOME File Manager
  • OPTION3: Partitions
  • OPTION4: Anything else.

• TOPIC: TBD

• TOPIC: TBD
• TOPIC: Previous possible – Rick Clark (Ubuntu topic) (via Craig (Craig was to follow up).

• HOLIDAY Schedule - need to avoid conflict with Christmas Day
• TOPIC: Favorite Applications (sort of like keyboard kareoke). CLI or GUI.

• Christmas Day

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• HIATUS - Holiday schedule. No Meeting.

• BASE: TBD
• MAIN: TBD

• TOPIC: TBD

• TOPIC: TBD

• TOPIC: TBD

• Topics are usually determined by attendees. We sometimes cover more than one.
  • OPTION1: Continued exploration of /var directory.
  • OPTION2: Exploring the GNOME File Manager
  • OPTION3: Partitions
  • OPTION4: Anything else.

• TOPIC: Favorite Applications (sort of like keyboard kareoke). CLI or GUI.

These are some people who can present, and possible topics they can speak about.

• Don Hardaway and Craig Van Slyke (St. Louis University)
  • TOPIC: Open Source on the Desktop: Why Not?
  • Gary to contact them to request a presentation from them.
  • See first article here
• John Hodge
  • TOPIC: APV (Advance POWER Virtualization) Overview
• IBM (via John Hodge)
  • TOPIC: AIX 6
  • TOPIC: POWER 6 CPU architecture
• Wehrenberg Theaters (via Gary)
  • TOUR/DEMO: Digital cinema projectors
• Sanjiv Bhatia (or someone from UMSL, via Lee)
  • TOPIC: Open Grid Computing
  • December or January
• David Letscher (Prof of CS at SLU) (via Gary)
  • TOPIC: TBD
  • Still gone for summer. Awaiting details.
• Rick Clark (Ubuntu) (via Craig)
  • TOPIC: TBD
  • Not available until October
  • Might be able to talk to STCLUG and STLLUG
• Jeff Logullo (Sun)
  • TOPIC: MySQL - now a Sun product
  • TOPIC: Project Indiana, a new package mngmnt system ala apt/dpkg
  • TOPIC: Versioning filenames (snapshots?) in ZFS
  • TOPIC: New release of ZFS
  • TOPIC: Belenix & other live CD's based on Open Solaris
• Scott Nesler
  • TOPIC: GIMP (follow-up from previous presentation)
• Jeff Muse
  • TOPIC: various Solaris topics
• Ed Howland (via Gary)
  • TOPIC: Last.fm, Amarok, etc. - free music downloads
  • TOPIC: Building a modern kernel
• Stan Reichardt
  • TOPIC/DEMO: Google Calendar
  • TOPIC/DEMO: Using Scribus
• Tim Dreste (via Stan R)
  • TOPIC: Untangle Gateway Platform
  • TOPIC: CentOS Linux
• unknown (via Carl)
  • TOPIC: EnterpriseDB (packaged version of PostgreSQL)
  • Would be a video-conference, so requires solving logistics problems

These are some topics that we've had requested, or brainstormed, but need to find speakers for.

• Technology and Politics
  • Where do politicians stand on issues important to our group?
  • Issues - intellectual property, privacy vs surveilance, subsidies & incentives, Common Carrier
  • National, state, and local candidates and parties
  • Would need to do in Sept or Oct.
  • Tim Dreste might be able to get someone from Todd Akin's office to speak with us.
  • Craig is talking to someone involved w/ the Obama campaign.
  • Scott Nesler offered to present Do Good Gauge concept as a main topic or lead in.
• Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 (RHEL 5)
  • Still looking for volunteer; tried Clark Smith at Red Hat
• Fedora recent releases
• SuSE or OpenSUSE recent releases
  • Someone from Novell?
  • Gary Hollingsworth?
• HP-UX current release, features, future
  • Dave Mills?
  • HP corporate?
• iSCSI
• Using git
• CPUs
  • Features of modern Intel/AMD CPUs
  • x86-64
  • x86, x86-64, IA64, Sparc, PowerPC, ARM, POWER
• iPhone
  • Developing for (web, native)
• iPhone competitors
  • LG Dare
  • Samsung Instinct
  • Other Linux-based phones
  • LiMo versus Google Android
• Linux from scratch.
• Installation from source - config, make , make install, etc.
• SplashTop - a quick booting distro.

• THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF AUGUST 6th MEETING:
• Current paying sponsors have been asked to renew with nice letter in April.
  • Gary - Ask Ajilon about continuing $200 sponsorship.
  • Craig - Ask S3 - Strategic Staffing Solutions (follow up)
• Potential sponsors
  • Sun - Jeff Logullo
  • IBM - (John Hodge may have a contact)
  • Red Hat - Clark Smith (Craig to follow up)
  • Canonical/Ubuntu (Craig to follow up)
  • VMware - Matt Skipton
  • We should review them once or twice annually and establish an end date on recognition.
• Need sign about sponsoring our group for booth/table display at meetings and trade shows.
• More effort should be directed to find new sponsors.
  • No effort means no more new sponsors.
• Syllogistics paid twice for a corporate sponsorship,
  • the 2nd check will be returned with a nice thank-you letter

***SECURITY BREACH!?!?    Wash U has taken our webdev box 128.252.19.27 off network Mon 1 Dec.
                          They detected questionable IRC traffic with IP addresses in Finland & Norway.
                          We should analyze and respond.

• THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF AUGUST 6th MEETING:
• Need to break into the Sun machines again and reset passwords so they do not expire!
  • Carl suggests connecting serial ports on bud to serial console on Sun boxes.
    • Could then boot into single user mode.
    • Would need to install minicom to access serial TTY.
• Should we setup our own DNS on Bud/Budlight & switch over.
  • Make our own servers authoritative for our own domains.
  • Would allow us to publish reverse records.
    • Primary has said they can allow this.
  • Would allow us to publish SPF records.
  • We could offer dyanmic DNS services to our members.
    • On a subdomain, such as users.sluug.org
• We have 2 Sun E250s, which are currently racked but not connected.
  • Carl proposed parting out those boxes.
  • Craig concurred.
• Jeff Muse added Ultra and Busch - Sun Netra running Solaris 10.
  • Xepect to use one like Bud and one for backup storage
  • Will use the 2 Sun E250s for bacdkup storage.
  • Want to ask for a bunch of Ultra SCSI 160 or 320 speed disc drives, size 36 Gb or better.

• THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF AUGUST 6th MEETING:
• Craig has updated some of the documentation recently, as he built systems based on our docs.
• Backups
• Craig was to get together with Mike and/or Carl to work on tasks in July
• Work left to do:
  • Make sure docs are up to date.
    • Add documentation telling users how to configure mail clients to use Bud.
    • Started documenting client email configurations, to help users migrate.
    • See users and mail_setup pages.
  • Craig - Work on finishing server builds.
    • Document changes to PAM to correct MAIL variable. (Craig)
    • More security, for SSH and otherwise.
    • Get offsite backups working. (Mike)
    • Publish SSH host keys on web page.
    • Standardize/regularize user accounts (IDs, password expirations). (Mike)
• Other work to do:
  • Better web site management tools
  • Document useradd process.
  • Develop standardized 'Membership List' & same UIDs on all production machines.

• THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF AUGUST 6th MEETING:
• Noel asked that we allow current email users to keep their SLACC.COM email addresses.
• The registration is paid up until 2009.
• Carl - follow up with Noel about transferring the SLACC.COM domain to us.
• Check on SLACC.ORG - it seems to have changed recently - cybersquatter?

• THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF AUGUST 6th MEETING:
• SNUG attendance sheets and temporary web page made.
  • Still need to add SNUG members to Discuss & Announce.

• We had 2 new memberships this month. Carl will coordinate with Mike.
• Rest is tabled until next month.
• Membership drive
  • Need to print out name tags.
    • Omnitec will print them out and bring to SLUUG meeting.
• Cafe Press merchandise
  • Carl/SLUUG/Lee need to reconcile demo merchandise
• Lee has proposed to sell pizzas as fund-raiser if continued insufficient Memberships & Sponsors.

• THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF AUGUST 6th MEETING:
• Need new STLLUG chairperson.
  • Need new chair.
  • Craig can not do anymore.

• Structure/timing/flow of meetings
  • working better.
  • Need more demos.

• Lee suggested we create a Rails app on Bud to manage the group.
  • Member data - payments, expirations, etc.
  • Sponsors - expirations, etc.
  • Attendance
  • STL Ruby Group is writing a similar application.
    • RAMS - Rails Association Management System
    • We should leverage that, and guide it to our needs
  • Scott Nesler has built an app for attendance
    • Stan has plugged data into it for the year
    • Not sure if the app fits any of our other needs
      • (app is developed on CakePHP MVC architecture).
      • Member Payment, expiration would be simple addition to existing table/screens.
      • CRUD functionality simplifies expanding the application with additional tables.
      • Compartmentalization of CSS and layout templates simplifies changes to the look and feel.

• THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 5th MEETING:
• Scott Nesler purchased and donated www.stclug.org domain.
• Domain expires mid December.
• Do we want to assume ownership? Otherewise Scott will let it expire.
• Approved, we will start using.
• Need to add to Apache configuration.

• None.

• THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 3rd MEETING:
• Gary - Contact Don Hardaway and Craig Van Slyke (St. Louis University).
• Gary - Follow up on political topics for October STLLUG.
• Craig - Make sure change of registered agent form got mailed in.
• Craig - Contact Rick Clark (Ubuntu) about presenting at October or November STLLUG.
• Lee - Need list to print out name tags for paying members.
• Carl - Follow up w/ SLACC leader.
• Carl - Get with Mike to set up accounts for new members. (Lee has the info.)
• Barry - Follow up w/ John Hodge about a presentation in the near future.
• Lee, Barry - Get someone from IBM to talk about POWER6, AIX 6.0, etc.
• Craig - Email Jim Leingang @ S3 about $200 sponsorship.

• Everyone - Talk to someone about coming to meetings.
• Everyone - Talk to someone about sponsorships.
• Everyone - Talk to someone about giving a presentation.