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SLUUG Steering Committee Minutes - 4 March 2009

NOTE: Minutes posted on the wiki are always unofficial. Schedules for upcoming presentations are always tentative. (Some more tentative than others!)

Location

Saint Louis Bread Company,
(at Old Olive and Olive),
10550 Old Olive Street Road,
Creve Coeur, MO 63141

Date and Time

  • Wednesday, March 4, 2009
  • 6:30 PM - 9:00 PM

Attendees

  • Carl Fitch
  • Mike Wilkerson
  • Tony Lovasco
  • Craig Buchek
  • Don Ellis
  • Gary Meyer
  • Stan Reichardt
  • Jerry Stutte
  • Jeff Muse

Secretary Report

  • Secretary has printed out minutes up through February.

Treasurer Report

  • Balance: $1361.65 as of 2/28/2009
  • Receipts (pending submission):
    • Carl - Annual registration fee to State of Missouri
    • Craig - Submit receipt for voice recorder.
    • Gary - Turn in receipt for domain registration.

Mailing List Report

  • Subscriber numbers (approximate) as of end of February 2009:
List Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb
ANNOUNCE 857 856 853 854 843 835 830 828 807 805 802 791 790 786
DISCUSS 185 185 186 1?? 188 188 192 193 192 193 194 196 201 206
STEERCOM 31 31 31 ?? 29 32 33 33 33 34 34 34 34 34
SYSADMIN 17 17 17 ?? 15 15 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16
  • Numbers will now be as end of each month.
  • Blocking of mailing list attachments not completely configured yet.
  • ANNOUNCE mailing list.
    • Still no volunteer editor to do a quarterly or monthly newsletter.

Attendance Report

  • Numbers, as of end of February 2009:
Meeting Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb
Steercom 6 2 4 4 4 7 4 2 4 5 5 6 6 6
SLACC 7 4 (4) ? x 6 9 8 6 ? 4 4 No 6
SLUUG 14 12 23 17 31 18 17 15 18 21 20 27 24 23
STLOSUG 13 No 6 No 20 10 No 12 No 11 10 7 6 xxx
SNUG NA NA NA NA NA 5 4 No 5 3 5? No 7 xxx
STLLUG 17 No 16 17 29 22 20 23 13 15 11 10 19 32
STCLUG 9 11 3 13 5 6 3 6 3 19 No 6 11? 12
HZWLUG 10 11 14 11 11 10 11 12 9 11 9 4 2 8
MythTV No No No No No No No No No No No No No 8

* No - indicates no meeting.

  • NA - Not part of SLUUG
  • () - Numbers in parentheses are head count.
  • ? - Question mark indicates attendance not taken or sheet missing.
  • xx - attendance numbers not yet recorded.
  • Added MythTV as a SIG.

Meeting Review and Comments

February 2009

   February 2009    
Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa
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15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28

SLACC - February 5

  • Linux configuration - no presentation

SLUUG - February 11

  • BASE: Different diffs by Stan Reichardt
    • Interesting.
  • MAIN: Netbooks (Miniature Notebooks) by various via Carl
    • Good - 4 or 5 people brought machines and talked.
  • Official Annual Meeting.
    • Gary has the minutes.

Solaris - February 17

  • TOPIC: Dedicated DNS Server in a Zone, Continued by Jeff Muse
    • Actual topic: Solaris Volume Manager by Steve Smith

SNUG - February 18

  • TOPIC: Novell Storage Manager version 2.5
    • Good. Canned video presentation, with demos.

STLLUG - February 19

  • TOPIC: Mozilla-based Apps: Miro (formerly Democracy TV), Songbird, Komodo by Craig Buchek
    • No Internet - AGAIN - made it difficult demo some things

HZWLUG - February 24

  • Topics are usually determined by attendees. We sometimes cover more than one.
    • TOPIC1: Demo of SimplyMEPIS version 8.0 distribution of Linux.
    • TOPIC2: Best Introduction to Linux, man (1) intro, info, pinfo, KDE Help, Gnome Help, etc.
    • TOPIC3: Using X Window System to access remote machines. (SSH X forwarding)

STCLUG - February 26

  • TOPIC: Google Apps Experiences by Jim Roe
    • Really good. Should re-visit at a future STLLUG meeting.

MYTHTV - February 28

  • TOPIC: Installation and Troubleshooting by various
    • Went well. Got 3 machines running.

Presentation Schedule

March 2009

     March 2009     
Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa
 1  2  3  4  5  6  7
 8  9 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28
29 30 31            

SLACC - March 5

  • Linux configuration - no presentation

SLUUG - March 11

  • BASE: Internet Tablet Demo by Jerry Stutte
  • MAIN: March Through Linux /proc by Carl

Solaris - March 17

  • TOPIC: Continuation of System Build

SNUG - March 18

  • TOPIC: TBD

StL Business Expo Macrh 18

  • SLUUG Booth
  • See Discussion Below

STLLUG - March 19

  • TOPIC: Podcasting and New Media by Mike Wilkerson

HZWLUG - March 24

  • Topics are usually determined by attendees. We sometimes cover more than one.
    • OPTION1: Continued exploration of /var directory.
    • OPTION2: Exploring the GNOME File Manager.
    • OPTION3: Partitions.
    • OPTION4: Anything else.

STCLUG - March 26

  • TOPIC: Bulk Deployment with Linux by Tony Lovasco
  • PLANNING: Ubuntu Release Party

MythTV - NO MARCH MEETING

  • This SIG meets at irregular intervals.

April 2009

     April 2009     
Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa
          1  2  3  4
 5  6  7  8  9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30      

SLUUG - April 8

  • BASE: GNU screen by Jeff Muse
  • Main: Live Demo IBM Virtualization by Sammie Allam, IBM (via Lee)

SNUG - April 15

  • TOPIC: TBD

STLLUG - April 16

  • TOPIC: Open Source on the Desktop: Why Not?
    • by Don Hardaway and Craig Van Slyke (St. Louis University) (TENTATIVE, via Gary)
    • See first article here

STLOSUG (Solaris) - April 21

  • TOPIC: Continuation of System Build

STCLUG - April 23

  • TOPIC: Google Calendar by Stan Reichardt
  • TOPIC: Google Gadgets by Jerry Stutte

HZWLUG - April 28

  • Topics are usually determined by attendees. We sometimes cover more than one.

MythTV - NO APRIL MEETING

  • This SIG meets at irregular intervals.

Potential Presenters

These are some people who can present, and possible topics they can speak about.

  • Don Hardaway and Craig Van Slyke (St. Louis University)
    • TOPIC: Open Source on the Desktop: Why Not?
    • Gary to contact them to request a presentation from them.
    • See first article here
  • Wehrenberg Theaters (via Gary)
    • TOUR/DEMO: Digital cinema projectors
  • Sanjiv Bhatia (or someone from UMSL, via Lee)
    • TOPIC: AIX 6
    • TOPIC: Open Grid Computing
    • December or January
  • David Letscher (Prof of CS at SLU) (via Gary)
    • TOPIC: TBD
    • Still gone for summer. Awaiting details.
  • Rick Clark (Ubuntu) (via Craig)
    • TOPIC: TBD
    • Might be able to talk to STCLUG and STLLUG
  • Jeff Logullo (Sun)
    • TOPIC: MySQL - now a Sun product
    • TOPIC: Project Indiana, a new package management system a la apt/dpkg
    • TOPIC: Versioning filenames (snapshots?) in ZFS
    • TOPIC: New release of ZFS
    • TOPIC: Belenix & other live CD's based on Open Solaris
  • Scott Nesler
    • TOPIC: GIMP (follow-up from previous presentation)
    • TOPIC: PGP and GPG
  • Jeff Muse
    • TOPIC: various Solaris topics
  • Stan Reichardt
    • TOPIC/DEMO: Google Calendar
    • TOPIC/DEMO: Using Scribus
  • Tim Dreste (via Stan R)
    • TOPIC: Untangle Gateway Platform
    • TOPIC: CentOS Linux
  • Don Ellis
    • Mac OS X Snow Leopard
  • Kyle Cordes
    • git and GitHub
    • Flying Boxes
  • Craig Buchek
    • git and GitHub
    • ack (grep replacement)
    • GNU grep (–count, –context, -e, –color)
    • wget and curl
    • Mac OS X topics
    • Ruby on Rails
    • Test-Driven Development (or get Brian Button, if possible)
  • Jerry Stutte
    • OpenGL
  • Tony Lovasco
    • Patent-Free Codecs (Ogg Vorbis, Ogg Theora, FLAC, Dirac) STLLUG - May 20
  • Mike Wilkerson
    • Round-Table on Joe Linux User (moderator)

Potential Topics

These are some topics that we've had requested, or brainstormed, but need to find speakers for.

  • Unix glossary - define terms
    • mount point
    • white space
    • "well-behaved" app
    • zombies
    • parent process
  • Knoppix karaoke (various users sit in front of Knoppix system)
    • regedit - edit Windows registry from Linux
  • Drawing network diagrams using Dia or OpenOffice Draw
  • Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 (RHEL 5)
    • Still looking for volunteer; tried Clark Smith at Red Hat
  • Fedora recent releases
  • SuSE or OpenSUSE recent releases
    • Someone from Novell?
    • Gary Hollingsworth?
  • HP-UX current release, features, future
    • Dave Mills?
    • HP corporate?
  • iSCSI
  • Using git
  • CPUs
    • Features of modern Intel/AMD CPUs
    • x86-64
    • x86, x86-64, IA64, Sparc, PowerPC, ARM, POWER
  • iPhone
    • Developing for (web, native)
  • iPhone competitors
    • LG Dare
    • Samsung Instinct
    • Other Linux-based phones
    • LiMo versus Google Android
  • Linux from scratch.
  • SplashTop - a quick booting distro.
  • PGP/GPG use in Email
    • Thunderbird Enigmail
    • KMail
  • Google Android
    • Gateway and STL JUGs both recently had presentations

Results of February Elections

  • Stan determined eligible voters and sorted the submitted ballots.
  • Ballots were opened and counted at the Steering Committee meeting.
  • Two Board openings.
    • 1st Board Member - Jeff Muse
    • 2nd Board Member - Lee Lammert
  • SLUUG Officers:
    • President - Gary Meyer
    • Vice-President - Stan Reichart
    • Treasurer - Lee Lammert
    • Secretary - Craig Buchek
  • STLLUG chair - Phil Bunch
  • STCLUG chair - Carl Fitch
  • NOTE: See Board Meeting at bottom

Small Business Expo

  • QB demo for the SBE - can anyone help get it working?
  • SBE Flyers - Lee has 50 flyers if anyone would like some.
  • Small Business Expo is March 18.
    • Lee has signed up for a booth – same one as last time.
    • Project is to build a business desktop with GNU/Linux to show off.
      • Need to get requirements/recommendations.

STCLUG

  • Scott Nesler purchased and donated STCLUG.ORG domain.
  • Gary renewed STCLUG.ORG domain.
  • Craig added to Apache configuration, so it now runs off our servers properly.
  • Craig will add DNS records on our EveryDNS account.
  • Gary needs to create DNS records in EveryDNS and point the domain at EveryDNS.
    • Currently pointing at GoDaddy parking page.

SLACC

  • Need to register SLACC.COM domain.
    • Carl - follow up with Noel about transferring the SLACC.COM domain to us.
    • Expires in March; need to renew.
  • Check on SLACC.ORG - seems to be owned by a cybersquatter.
  • Noel asked that we allow current email users to keep their SLACC.COM email addresses.
  • ACTION ITEM: Carl, Gary - Transfer and renew SLACC.COM domain.

StlWebDev

  • Lee proposed resurrecting StlWebDev as a SLUUG SIG.
  • Lee spoke w/ Allan Trick, president of (now-defunct) StlWebDev group.
    • They're willing to abide by SLUUG terms.
    • They've not held meetings for some time.
    • Would like to move the web site and mailing list to our servers.
      • Mailing list would be separate from our DISCUSS list.
      • Using our Mailmain and Apache services.
  • Unanimous agreement.

Server Admin

  • Craig updated DokuWiki to the latest version.
  • Partitions on Bud are getting full.
    • Home and var partitions.
    • Tony will look into prices for 9 SCA hard drives - 36 GB and 72 GB.
  • Jeff installed Solaris 10 on the E250 with the hard drives.
    • Ran into mirroring issues, due to disk sizes.
  • Omnitec offered to provide secondary DNS for us.
    • We would provide secondary DNS for them.
    • Lee and Carl would maintain DNS on both ends.
  • Dark is alive again, thanks to a campus-wide power outage.
    • Anyone who needs to get anything off should do so ASAP.
    • We should retire this system.
  • Wash U took our webdev box (128.252.19.27) off network Mon December 1.
    • They detected questionable IRC traffic with IP addresses in Finland & Norway.
    • We should analyze and respond.
  • Jeff Muse added Ultra and Busch - Sun Netras running Solaris 10.
    • Expect to use one like Bud and one for backup storage.
  • We have 2 Sun E250s, which are currently racked but not connected.
    • Carl proposed parting out those boxes.
    • Craig concurred.
    • One of the systems is reporting a bad/missing CPU.
    • The other seems to be OK, but needs power and an OS.
    • Jeff got 4 x 36 GB hard drives, and placed in the good Sun E250.
  • We're planning to setup our own DNS on Ultra/Busch.
    • Make our own servers authoritative for our own domains.
    • Would allow us to publish reverse records.
      • Primary has said they can allow this.
    • Would allow us to publish SPF records.
    • We could offer dyanmic DNS services to our members.
      • On a subdomain, such as users.sluug.org
  • Steve Smith (from Solaris SIG) offered a 36 GB drive to install in one of the Netras.

Server Management

  • Backups
  • Work left to do:
    • Make sure docs are up to date.
      • Add documentation telling users how to configure mail clients to use Bud.
      • Started documenting client email configurations, to help users migrate.
      • See users and mail_setup pages.
    • Craig - Work on finishing server builds.
      • Document changes to PAM to correct MAIL variable. (Craig)
      • More security, for SSH and otherwise.
      • Get offsite backups working. (Mike)
      • Publish SSH host keys on web page.
      • Standardize/regularize user accounts (IDs, password expirations). (Mike)
  • Other work to do:
    • Better web site management tools
    • Document useradd process.
    • Develop standardized 'Membership List' & same UIDs on all production machines.

Sponsorships

  • Tony Lovasco will look into getting some sponsorships.

Membership (and Shell Accounts)

  • Craig had a discussion with Jim Leingang about membership, and got several suggestions.
    • Assign small task to more members, so they feel more a part of the organization.
      • For example, have someone new every month doing sign-in sheets and new user contact.
    • Reward good behaviors.
      • Awards at the end of the year.
      • Provide incentives (like door prizes) for people who bring in new members.
  • Membership drive
    • Need to print out name tags.
      • Omnitec will print them out and bring to SLUUG meeting.
  • Cafe Press merchandise
    • Carl/SLUUG/Lee need to reconcile demo merchandise
  • Lee has proposed to sell pizzas as fund-raiser if continued insufficient Memberships & Sponsors.

Manage The Group

  • Lee suggested we create a Rails app on Bud to manage the group.
    • Member data - payments, expirations, etc.
    • Sponsors - expirations, etc.
    • Attendance
    • STL Ruby Group is writing a similar application.
      • RAMS - Rails Association Management System
      • We should leverage that, and guide it to our needs
    • Scott Nesler has built an app for attendance
      • Stan has plugged data into it for the year
      • Not sure if the app fits any of our other needs
        • (app is developed on CakePHP MVC architecture).
        • Member Payment, expiration would be simple addition to existing table/screens.
        • CRUD functionality simplifies expanding the application with additional tables.
        • Compartmentalization of CSS and layout templates simplifies changes to the look and feel.

Low Numbers

  • Gary suggests we discuss why the #s on the general meeting and STLLUG are so low!
    • What can be done to return them to more traditional values?
    • Also relate to subscriptions to ANNOUNCE.
    • Gary suggests we talk about what can be done about the declining subscriptions to ANNOUNCE.
    • A ~20% drop in 18 months! (And it was over 1000…when?)
  • Craig gave away a stuffed penguin as a door prize.
    • Had stated that whoever brought the most (new, returning) people to STLLUG meeting.
    • Tony Z won the penguin, bringing his Linux class to the meeting.

Ubuntu Release Party

  • Rick Clark from Canonical proposed SLUUG sponsor an Ubuntu release party.
  • Official Name: Free Software and Technology Expo
  • Date will be 2nd Saturday in May - May 9.
    • Runs from 4 PM to 9 PM
    • Setup from 3 PM to 4 PM
  • Tony Lovasco from Nexradix paid for Westport Plaza location.
  • Single ballroom - 75' x 30'
    • Tables in a horseshoe, with projector
    • Booths around the edges
    • SLUUG membership desk
  • Potential Presentations (4)
    • something by Rick Clark of Canonical / Ubuntu
    • Open Source Licensing: What You Need to Know by Craig Buchek
    • something by Scott Granneman (TENTATIVE)
    • something security-related by Christine Wanta
    • Open Source in an Economic Downturn by Craig Buchek (ALTERNATE)

Other Old Business

  • None

Other New Business

  • None

Blue Sky

  • Stan asked if we can get some stats out of our web server.
    • awstats
    • Webalizer

Recognize Useful Effort

  • Recognize completed action items.
  • Recognize who did anything useful.
  • Stan did all the work required for the election.
    • Printed ballots.
    • Validated submitted ballots.
  • Jeff got one of the Sun E250s loaded.

Board Meeting

  • A board meeting was held from 8:49 - 8:52.
  • Carl Fitch, Craig Buchek, and Jeff Muse were in attendance.
    • Stan Reichardt, retiring board member was also in attendance.
  • Carl moved that the (new) board accepted the advisory vote of the members with 2 exceptions:
    • Gary Meyer did not accept the position of President.
      • Carl Fitch accepted the position.
    • It is suspected that Phil Bunch will not accept position of STLLUG chair.
      • Craig Buchek agreed to accept the position, if Phil does not accept.
  • Jeff Muse seconded the motion.
  • The motion was passed unanimously.
  • Carl moved that we adjourn the meeting.
  • Craig seconded.

Follow-up and Action Items

  • Lee - Need list to print out name tags for paying members.
  • Everyone - Talk to someone about coming to meetings.
  • Everyone - Talk to someone about sponsorships.
  • Everyone - Talk to someone about giving a presentation.
  • Gary - Update STLLINUX.ORG to show 3 names in WHOIS data.
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