====== SLUUG Steering Committee Minutes - April 2008 ======
NOTE: Minutes posted on the wiki are always unofficial.
Schedules for upcoming presentations are always tentative.
(Some more tentative than others!)
====== Location ======
Saint Louis Bread Company,
(at Old Olive and Olive),
10550 Old Olive Street Road,
Creve Coeur, MO 63141
====== Date and Time ======
* Wednesday, April 2, 2008
* 6:30 pm - 8:05 pm
====== Attendees ======
* Carl Fitch
* Craig Buchek
* Stan Reichardt
* Gary Meyer
====== Secretary Report ======
* Printed out minutes from Steering Committee meetings through March.
====== Treasurer Report ======
* Balance: $1,174.72 as of 1/31/08
* Carl gave money collected for memberships to the Treasurer.
* Carl - Turn in cash drawer funds to treasurer.
* Carl - Cancel credit card processing. (In progress -- need to fax them a 2nd letter.)
* Craig - Submit receipt for voice recorder.
* Gary - Turn in receipt for domain registration.
* Open issues:
* New IRS reporting requirement
* We will (likely) have to file a form 990-EZ for the 2007 tax year.
* Need response from Rich McClennan.
* Any other advisory resources available?
* Lee - Follow up drafting reply to Wash U.
* Final bill from Wash U. - need to complete reply
====== Attendance Report ======
* Some numbers:
| Meeting ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^
^ Steercom | 5 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 5 | 5 | No | 6 | 3 | 6 | 2 | 4 |
^ SLACC | 6 | 7 | ? | ? | 8 | 6 | 10 | 7 | 5 | 8 | 4 | 7 | 4 | (4)|
^ 1st LDAP | xx | 5 | 6 | 7 | 6 | No | No | No | No | ? | No | 4 | No | No |
^ SLUUG | 12 | 23 | 22 | 18 | 16 | 27 | 36 | 21 | 24 | 25 | 20 | 14 | 12 | 23 |
^ Solaris | 4 | No | 18 | 15 | 6 | 8 | No | 11 | No | 5 | No | 13 | No | 6 |
^ 2nd LDAP | xx | 6 | 5 | 5 | 6 | No | No | (6) | 7 | No | 3 | ? | No | No |
^ STLLUG | 12 | 14 | 18 | 23 | 20 | 31 | 31 | 23 | 19 | 25 | 20 | 17 | No | 16 |
^ HZWLUG | 7 | 9 | 8 | 9 | No | 11 | 11 | 10 | 10 | 15 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 14 |
^ Security | No | No | 7 | 9 | No | 6 | No | No | No | No | No | No | No | No |
^ STCLUG | 10 | 10 | 6 | ? | 8 | 11 | 17 | 10 | 11 | No | 11 | 9 | 11 | 3 |
* No - indicates no meeting.
* () - Numbers in parentheses are head count.
* ? - Question mark indicates attendance not taken or sheet missing.
* xx - attendance numbers not yet recorded.
* Attendance seems to be down, which is not unusual for the winter months.
* Scott Granneman drew in quite a crowd with such short notice.
* Attendance found out by ANNOUNCE mailing, not by viewing SLUUG home page.
====== Mailing List Report ======
* Some current mailing list subscriber numbers (approximate):
| List ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^
^ ANNOUNCE | 917 | 925 | 900 | 915 | 885 | 877 | 877 | 866 | 857 | 856 | 853 | 854 |
^ DISCUSS | 184 | 190 | 188 | 190 | 190 | 192 | 192 | 185 | 185 | 185 | 186 | 1?? |
^ STEERCOM | 32 | 32 | 33 | 32 | 32 | 32 | 32 | 32 | 31 | 31 | 31 | ?? |
^ SYSADMIN | xx | xx | 18 | 18 | 18 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 | ?? |
* We have migrated all lists from Majordomo on Michelob to MailMan on Bud.
* Blocking of mailing list attachments not completely configured yet.
* ANNOUNCE mailing list.
* Still no volunteer editor to do a Quarterly or monthly newsletter.
====== Meeting Review and Comments ======
===== March 2008 =====
March 2008
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==== SLACC - March 6 ====
* Linux Configuration Workshop - No presentation.
==== SLUUG - March 12 ====
* BASE: Importing/Exporting Data Between Spreadsheets and Databases by Lee Lammert
* Good.
* MAIN: What Every Nerd Needs To Know by Scott Granneman
* Voice recording was not done.
* Very good. Good to have a less technical presentation once in a while.
* CANCELED: iSCSI by Erich Schark of Alliance Systems (via Craig)
* Canceled on Monday due to operational issues.
==== Solaris - March 18 ====
* TOPIC: Virtualization by Bob Netherton and Jeff Logullo
* Covered xVM (Solaris-based Xen) and VirtualBox (bought by Sun February 7).
* Excellent. Tag teamed w Jeff doing VirtualBox.
* Hoping to have this reprised at a SLUUG general meeting.
==== STLLUG - March 20 ====
* TOPIC: WINE by Ed Howland
* Excellent. Lots of hands-on demonstration.
* Formal presentation extended to Nick and Elena's.
* Audio recording posted to web site.
* Started about 30 minutes late.
==== HZWLUG - March 25 ====
* TOPIC: Usually determined by attendees
* Talked about various topics.
==== STCLUG - March 27 ====
* TOPIC: Discussion of future topics by Mark Sims
====== Presentation Schedule ======
===== April 2008 =====
April 2008
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==== SLACC - April 3 ====
* Linux Configuration Workshop - No presentation.
==== SLUUG - April 9 ====
* BASE: File Links: Over-easy or Well-done by Carl Fitch
* MAIN: Mac OS X Leopard by Don Benne (via Gary)
==== Solaris - April 15 ====
* TOPIC: TBD
==== STLLUG - April 17 ====
* TOPIC: Encryption by Mike May, Prof @ SLU (TENTATIVE, via Gary)
==== EPC Sale - April 19 ====
* We plan to have some of our people there to show off GNU/Linux.
==== HZWLUG - April 22 ====
* TOPIC: Usually determined by attendees.
* OPTION 1: Patitions.
* OPTION 2: Exploring the /etc directory.
* OPTION 3: Anything else.
==== STCLUG - April 24 ====
* TOPIC: Hard Drive Duplication by Carl Fitch
===== May 2008 =====
May 2008
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==== SLACC - May 1 ====
* Linux Configuration Workshop - No presentation.
==== SLUUG - May 14 ====
* NOTE: Back to back meetings
* BASE: Last.FM by Ed Howland (TENTATIVE, via Gary)
* MAIN: MythTV by Jason Clark (TENTATIVE, via Craig)
* BACKUP CHOICE: Encryption by Mike May from SLU (via Gary)
==== STLLUG - May 15 ====
* NOTE: Back to back meetings
* TOPIC: MythTV by Jason Clark (TENTATIVE, via Craig)
==== Solaris - May 20 ====
* TOPIC: TBD
==== STCLUG - May 22 ====
* TOPIC: TBD
==== HZWLUG - May 27 ====
* TOPIC: Usually determined by attendees
* POTENTIAL TOPIC: Exploring the /bin directory.
===== Potential Future Topics =====
* GIMP by Scott Nesler.
* Encryption by Mike May S.J., Prof @ SLU, Chair Math/CS dept (via Gary)
* Stoneware webOS and Desktop Virtualization by Jack Loane (via Carl/Craig/e-mail)
* iSCSI
* EnterpriseDB (packaged version of PostgreSQL) (via Carl)
* Would be a video-conference, so requires solving the logistics
* Who is the Spencer Lecture speaker @ UMSL?
* Mac OS X Leopard by Don Benne (via Gary)
* Previously presented at GAMUG In-Depth SIG
* VirtualBox (& xVM (Zen)) by Jeff Logullo? (via Gary)
* Status of Sun Solaris by Jeff Logullo (via Gary)
* Versioning filenames (snapshots?) in ZFS by Jeff Logullo? Jeff Muse? (via Gary)
* New release of ZFS " " " " " " "
* Project Indiana, a new package mngmnt system ala apt/dpkg by Jeff Logullo? Jeff Muse? (via Gary)
* Belenix & otherlive CD's based on Open Solaris by Jeff Logullo? Jeff Muse? (via Gary)
* Cell phone issues by Don Ellis (via Gary)
* Grand Central service,
* 2 GB mem chip upgrades,
* Free calling by automatically routing thru WiFi,
* 4 band phones,
*...
* APV (Advance POWER Virtualization) Overview by John Hodge
* Demo/Using Scribus by Stan Reichardt
* Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 (RHEL 5)- still looking for volunteer
* Untangle Gateway Platform (instead of CentOS Linux) by Tim Dreste (via Stan R)
* AIX 6 - due out later this year (about November, IBM via John Hodge)
* Building a modern kernel by Ed Howland
* Using git by Ed Howland
* Remotely presented (video conferencing) topics
* Qt/KDE (TrollTech sales rep, via Craig)
* Linux(xBSD, etc) on Wireless (Suggested by Ed Howland)
* Part 1: Theory and operation of wireless networks.
* The 802.11 stack (relevant protocols).
* Descriptions of terms, expansion of alphabet soup.
* Security (WEP, WPA, WPA2)
* Network types (ad-hoc, infrastrucure).
* Modes (ad-hoc, managed, master, monitor).
* Packet Types (management, data frames, beacons, probes).
* Part 2: Practical Linux Wireless configuration.
* Cards, compatibility.
* NDISWrapper and native (devicescape stack).
* Drivers
* Tools (using wpa_supplicant).
* Network Monitor.
* Status of BSD by Randy? John? (via Gary?)
* Wireshark sniffing by ??? @ Savvis (via Clarence?).
* Last.fm, Amarok,...free music downloads by Ed Howland (via Gary)
====== STL Small Business Expo ======
* March 18, 11:00 - 6:00
* St. Charles Convention Center
* We were in booth 801.
* Volunteers: Gary McKee, Lee Lammert, Carl Fitch, Stan Reichardt
* Lots of people stopped by -- busy corner.
* Not sure it's worth our time, money, and effort.
====== Sponsorships ======
* New Sponsor -
* Have the current paying sponsors been asked to renew (with payment)?
* Gary - Ask Ajilon about continuing $200 sponsorship.
* Craig - Ask S3 - Strategic Staffing Solutions (follow up)
* Potential sponsors
* Sun - Jeff Logullo
* IBM - (John Hodge may have a contact)
* Red Hat - Clark Smith (Craig to follow up)
* VMware - Matt Skipton
* Some old information has:
* Annual sponsorship as $200 for Businesses and
* $300 for Large Enterprise Corporations. This amount show on sluuginfo.pdf (18 April 2007) handout.
* The $300 amount not viable, so sponsorships are $200.
* Stan will purge any $300 amount from web site and forms.
* We should review them once or twice annually and establish an end date on recognition.
* We in fact recognize multiple entities as sponsors due to community support or services in kind.
* EPC - STLLUG Installfest, STL BusExpo hardware use & handout printing support, SLUUG discount.
* Computers & Things - STLLUG Installfests, STCLUG projector & STL BusExpo printing support.
* Graybar - SLUUG general meeting site.
* Hostirian - New server hosting.
* K&S Pritchard Enterprises - Hosted STLLUG web pages thru to Spring 2007.
* O'Reilly - discount book arrangement (now moot - suggest removing).
* Law Offices of Rich McLennen - legal services as needed.
* UMSL-MicroLabs - The St. Louis Security Group meeting lab area.
* Omnitec - has been providing services in kind commensurate with other sponsors.
* Need sign about sponsoring our group for booth/table display at meetings and trade shows.
* More effort should be directed to find new sponsors.
* No effort means no more new sponsors.
====== Server Admin ======
* Mail was temporarily blocked when /var hit 100%
* Stan R. moved large backup file to /spare directory.
====== Server Intrusion and Rebuild ======
* Craig updated changes to build documentation.
* Based on rebuild of March 2.
====== Server Migration Project ======
* Work left to do:
* Make sure docs are up to date.
* Add documentation telling users how to configure mail clients to use Bud.
* Started documenting client email configurations, to help users migrate.
* See [[../users]] and [[../mail_setup]] pages.
* Craig - Work on finishing server builds.
* Document changes to PAM to correct MAIL variable. (Craig)
* More security, for SSH and otherwise.
* Get offsite backups working. (Mike)
* Publish SSH host keys on web page.
* Standardize/regularize user accounts (IDs, password expirations). (Mike)
* Other work to do:
* Better web site management tools
* Craig will get together with Mike and/or Carl to work on tasks in next coming weeks.
====== Website Library ======
* Stan R. and Ted P.
* Stan uploaded several older presentations.
* WINE by Ed Howland (audio)
* Update on SCO vs. IBM Lawsuit by Benjamin White (2006)
* sudo not su by Stanford Baldwin
* No more other presentation uploads yet.
====== SLACC as a SIG ======
* Noel asked that we allow current email users to keep their SLACC.com email addresses.
* The registration is paid up until 2009.
* Carl - follow up with Noel about transferring the domain to us.
====== Membership (and Shell Accounts) ======
* Membership drive
* Need to print out name tags.
* Omnitec will print them out and bring to SLUUG meeting.
* Cafe Press merchandise
* Carl has money from purchases -- needs to turn into treasurer.
* Stan to add CafePress link to SLUUG web site when we get info.
* Stan to link new membership page into SLUUG web site.
* It was suggested that we use Scott Nesler's logos.
* We should ask Scott.
* We should post the choices to STEERCOM for voting to make it official.
===== An Ubuntu Group =====
* [[http://www.stchman.com/ | Bob Nelson]] - [[http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-466368.html | wants to start an Ubuntu LoCo]]
* Craig to follow up again.
* EPC would like to hold the meetings.
* Open 9-2 on weekends, close at 6 on weekdays.
* Talk to Tony Lavasco and Frank Polston if we need to follow up.
===== Security Group =====
* Has not had a meeting in the past x months.
* Clarence has had conflicts.
* Other leaders have not been responsive.
* Steering Committee has declared the group "in hiatus".
* Stan has updated web site with the new status.
* Gary will start a thread on DISCUSS.
* Asking for location and leadership.
===== Manage The Group =====
* Lee suggested we create a Rails app on Bud to manage the group.
* Member data - payments, expirations, etc.
* Sponsors - expirations, etc.
* Attendance
* STL Ruby Group is writing a similar application.
* RAMS - Rails Association Management System
* We should leverage that, and guide it to our needs
* Scott Nesler has built an app for attendance
* Stan has plugged data into it for the year
* Not sure if the app fits any of our other needs
====== Other Old Business ======
* LDAP group
* Need to restart
* Suggested session(s) to "recap" (by Rich S?)
* Needed to get LDAP implemented on servers
====== New Business ======
* Structure/timing/flow of the meetings
* Need to leave enough time for "off-line interaction".
* Plan on tutorials being planned for ~20 mins.
* Main presentations should plan for ~1 hour (1.5 hours at STLLUG)
* Geek lunches.
* Only 2 people showed up at downtown meeting
* Lots of people at the Olive meeting, but location was too noisy
* Possible confusion with having 2 meetings at the same time
* Should these meetings count as official SLUUG meetings?
* For the moment, no -- keep them informal.
* We should support them, announce them, etc.
====== Blue Sky ======
* Does calling/phoning "old attendees" encourage them to come to meetings? Does e-mailing them?
====== Follow-up and Action Items ======
* Carl, Lee - Need to print out name tags for paying members.
* Jeff - Seek assistance from AIX gurus (Barry, John, Mike, Gary) to see if we want to set up his box.
* Barry - Follow up w/ John Hodge about a presentation in the near future.
* Barry, John - Talk to Rich Seibel and Dave Mills about AIX hardware they have.
* Lee, Barry - Get someone from IBM to talk about POWER6, AIX 6.0, etc.
* Craig - Follow up w/ Jason Clark about doing back-to-back nights in May.
* Craig - Follow up w/ Ubuntu LoCo person.
* Craig - Email Clark Smith @ Red Hat about getting someone to present on RHEL5, and $200 sponsorship.
* Craig - Email Jim Leingang @ S3 about $200 sponsorship.
* Stan - Add CafePress link to SLUUG web site (http://cafepress.com/sluug).
* Stan - Link new membership page into SLUUG web site.
* Gary - Prepare Sun E250 for potential use.
* Everyone - Talk to someone about coming to meetings.
* Everyone - Talk to someone about sponsorships.
* Everyone - Talk to someone about giving a presentation.