====== SLUUG Steering Committee Minutes - 30 September 2008 ======
NOTE: Minutes posted on the wiki are always unofficial.
Schedules for upcoming presentations are always tentative.
(Some more tentative than others!)
====== Location ======
Saint Louis Bread Company,
(at Old Olive and Olive),
10550 Old Olive Street Road,
Creve Coeur, MO 63141
====== Date and Time ======
* Wednesday, September 30, 2008
* This meeting held one day earlier than usual.
* 6:30 pm -
====== Attendees ======
* Carl Fitch
* Lee Lammert
* Gary Meyer
* Stan Reichardt - At HZWLUG meeting
====== Secretary Report ======
* NO CHANGES SINCE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 3rd MEETING:
====== Treasurer Report ======
* Balance: $1,515.50 as of 9/30/08
* Receipts (pending submission):
* Carl - Annual registration fee to State of Missouri
* Craig - Submit receipt for voice recorder.
* Gary - Turn in receipt for domain registration.
* Payments:
* $91.12 - SBE Convention Setup
* Open issues:
* Lee - Follow up drafting reply to Wash U.
* Final bill from Wash U. - need to complete reply
* Need suggestions for following up with and attracting potential Sponsors.
====== Attendance Report ======
* Numbers, as of end of September 2008:
| Meeting ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^
^ Steercom | 5 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 5 | 5 | No | 6 | 3 | 6 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 7 | 4 | 2 | 4 |
^ SLACC | 6 | 7 | ? | ? | 8 | 6 | 10 | 7 | 5 | 8 | 4 | 7 | 4 | (4)| ? | x | 6 | 9 | 8 | 6 |
^ SLUUG | 12 | 23 | 22 | 18 | 16 | 27 | 36 | 21 | 24 | 25 | 20 | 14 | 12 | 23 | 17 | 31 | 18 | 17 | 15 | 18 |
^ Solaris | 4 | No | 18 | 15 | 6 | 8 | No | 11 | No | 5 | No | 13 | No | 6 | No | 20 | 10 | No | 12 | No |
^ SNUG | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA | 5 | 4 | No | 5 |
^ STLLUG | 12 | 14 | 18 | 23 | 20 | 31 | 31 | 23 | 19 | 25 | 20 | 17 | No | 16 | 17 | 29 | 22 | 20 | 23 | 13 |
^ HZWLUG | 7 | 9 | 8 | 9 | No | 11 | 11 | 10 | 10 | 15 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 10 | 11 | 12 | xx |
^ STCLUG | 10 | 10 | 6 | ? | 8 | 11 | 17 | 10 | 11 | No | 11 | 9 | 11 | 3 | 13 | 5 | 6 | 3 | 6 | 3 |
* No - indicates no meeting.
* NA - Not part of SLUUG
* () - Numbers in parentheses are head count.
* ? - Question mark indicates attendance not taken or sheet missing.
* xx - attendance numbers not yet recorded.
* Dropped reference to LDAP meetings.
====== Mailing List Report ======
* Subscriber numbers (approximate) as of end of September 2008:
| List ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^
^ ANNOUNCE | 917 | 925 | 900 | 915 | 885 | 877 | 877 | 866 | 857 | 856 | 853 | 854 | 843 | 835 | 830 | 828 | 807 |
^ DISCUSS | 184 | 190 | 188 | 190 | 190 | 192 | 192 | 185 | 185 | 185 | 186 | 1?? | 188 | 188 | 192 | 193 | 192 |
^ STEERCOM | 32 | 32 | 33 | 32 | 32 | 32 | 32 | 32 | 31 | 31 | 31 | ?? | 29 | 32 | 33 | 33 | 33 |
^ SYSADMIN | xx | xx | 18 | 18 | 18 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 | ?? | 15 | 15 | 16 | 16 | 16 |
* Numbers will now be as end of each month.
* Blocking of mailing list attachments not completely configured yet.
* ANNOUNCE mailing list.
* Still no volunteer editor to do a Quarterly or monthly newsletter.
====== Meeting Review and Comments ======
===== September 2008 =====
September 2008
Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa
1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30
==== SLACC - September 4 ====
* Linux Configuration Workshop - No presentation.
==== SLUUG - September 10 ====
* BASE: (More) Commands You Might Have Missed by Carl Fitch
As always
* MAIN: Virtualization and the POWER Architecture by Sammie Allam, IBM (confirmed, via Lee)
Overview presentation. Got meaty during questions.
==== Solaris - September 16 ====
* TOPIC: TBD
==== SNUG - September 17 ====
* Talked about SLES 10 Small Business Edition and SLES 10 Teaming and Conferencing. Good presentation. Kudos to Gary Hollingsworth staying up late to get VM's up.
==== STLLUG - September 18 ====
* TOPIC: OLPC features. Andrew Jensen stepped up to do an off the cuff review of the One Laptop Per Child. Very good presentation made more exceptional by the fact that is was impromptu.
==== STCLUG - September 25 ====
* Nagios and Munin reviewed and demonstrated. Months in the making.
==== HZWLUG - September 30 ====
* Because of Prairie Commons Library Branch September schedule we have to switch to 5th Tuesday.
* Meetings are usually on 4th Tuesday (would have been 23rd).
* The STEERCOM meeting will also be held this evening, one day early.
* TOPIC: Usually determined by attendees
* OPTION1: Exploring the /var directory.
* OPTION2: Partitions
* OPTION3: Anything else.
====== Presentation Schedule ======
===== October 2008 =====
October 2008
Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31
==== SLACC - October 2 ====
* Linux Configuration Workshop - No presentation.
==== STLCL - October 4 ====
* First Saturday in October
* St. Louis County Library room reservations for next year
* Carl Fitch confirmed for Thornehill
==== SLUUG - October 8 ====
* BASE: Waived in liu of main presentation.
* MAIN: VMWare 6.5 & Server 2.0 by Matt Skipton, VMware (via Lee)
==== Solaris - October 14 ====
* TOPIC: Bob Netherton ZFS as a root file system
==== SNUG - October 15 ====
* TOPIC: TBD
==== STLLUG - October 16 ====
* TOPIC: TBD
==== STCLUG - October 23 ====
* TOPIC: TBD
==== HZWLUG - October 28 ====
* TOPIC: Usually determined by attendees
* OPTION1: Exploring the GNOME File Manager
* OPTION2: Partitions
* OPTION3: Anything else.
===== November 2008 =====
November 2008
Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa
1
2 3 4 5 6 7 8
9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28 29
30
==== SLACC - November 6 ====
* Linux Configuration Workshop - No presentation.
==== SLUUG - November 12 ====
* BASE: TBD
* MAIN: Booting PC Style! by Rich Seibel (via Gary - need to confirm the date)
* ABSTRACT: This is what happens BEFORE GRUB or LILO on x86 PC hardware with standard BIOS - stages 1, 2, and 3. A hardware talk, but some references to how it varies from OS to OS. NOT PXE or EFI.
==== Solaris - November 1x ====
* TOPIC: TBD
==== SNUG - November 1x ====
* TOPIC: TBD
==== STLLUG - November 20 ====
* TOPIC: TBD
==== STCLUG - November 2? ====
* HOLIDAY Season - need to avoid conflict with Thanksgiving Day
* TOPIC: TBD
==== HZWLUG - November 25 ====
* TOPIC: Usually determined by attendees
* OPTION1: TBD
* OPTION2: Partitions
* OPTION3: Anything else.
====== Potential Presenters ======
These are some people who can present, and possible topics they can speak about.
* Don Hardaway and Craig Van Slyke (St. Louis University)
* TOPIC: Open Source on the Desktop: Why Not?
* Gary to contact them to request a presentation from them.
* See first article [[http://lwn.net/Articles/293907/ | here]]
* John Hodge
* TOPIC: APV (Advance POWER Virtualization) Overview
* IBM (via John Hodge)
* TOPIC: AIX 6
* TOPIC: POWER 6 CPU architecture
* Wehrenberg Theaters (via Gary)
* TOUR/DEMO: Digital cinema projectors
* Sanjiv Bhatia (or someone from UMSL, via Lee)
* TOPIC: Open Grid Computing
* December or January
* David Letscher (Prof of CS at SLU) (via Gary)
* TOPIC: TBD
* Still gone for summer. Awaiting details.
* Rick Clark (Ubuntu) (via Craig)
* TOPIC: TBD
* Not available until October
* Might be able to talk to STCLUG and STLLUG
* Jeff Logullo (Sun)
* TOPIC: MySQL - now a Sun product
* TOPIC: Project Indiana, a new package mngmnt system ala apt/dpkg
* TOPIC: Versioning filenames (snapshots?) in ZFS
* TOPIC: New release of ZFS
* TOPIC: Belenix & other live CD's based on Open Solaris
* Scott Nesler
* TOPIC: GIMP (follow-up from previous presentation)
* Jeff Muse
* TOPIC: various Solaris topics
* Ed Howland (via Gary)
* TOPIC: Last.fm, Amarok, etc. - free music downloads
* TOPIC: Building a modern kernel
* Stan Reichardt
* TOPIC/DEMO: Google Calendar
* TOPIC/DEMO: Using Scribus
* Tim Dreste (via Stan R)
* TOPIC: Untangle Gateway Platform
* TOPIC: CentOS Linux
* unknown (via Carl)
* TOPIC: EnterpriseDB (packaged version of PostgreSQL)
* Would be a video-conference, so requires solving logistics problems
====== Potential Topics ======
These are some topics that we've had requested, or brainstormed, but need to find speakers for.
* Technology and Politics
* Where do politicians stand on issues important to our group?
* Issues - intellectual property, privacy vs surveilance, subsidies & incentives, Common Carrier
* National, state, and local candidates and parties
* Would need to do in Sept or Oct.
* Tim Dreste might be able to get someone from Todd Akin's office to speak with us.
* Craig is talking to someone involved w/ the Obama campaign.
* Scott Nesler offered to present [[http://www.dogoodgauge.com|Do Good Gauge]] concept as a main topic or lead in.
* Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 (RHEL 5)
* Still looking for volunteer; tried Clark Smith at Red Hat
* Fedora recent releases
* SuSE or OpenSUSE recent releases
* Someone from Novell?
* Gary Hollingsworth?
* HP-UX current release, features, future
* Dave Mills?
* HP corporate?
* iSCSI
* Using git
* CPUs
* Features of modern Intel/AMD CPUs
* x86-64
* x86, x86-64, IA64, Sparc, PowerPC, ARM, POWER
* iPhone
* Developing for (web, native)
* iPhone competitors
* LG Dare
* Samsung Instinct
* Other Linux-based phones
* LiMo versus Google Android
====== Sponsorships ======
* FIXME THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF AUGUST 6th MEETING:
* Current paying sponsors have been asked to renew with nice letter in April.
* Gary - Ask Ajilon about continuing $200 sponsorship.
* Craig - Ask S3 - Strategic Staffing Solutions (follow up)
* Potential sponsors
* Sun - Jeff Logullo
* IBM - (John Hodge may have a contact)
* Red Hat - Clark Smith (Craig to follow up)
* Canonical/Ubuntu (Craig to follow up)
* VMware - Matt Skipton
* We should review them once or twice annually and establish an end date on recognition.
* Need sign about sponsoring our group for booth/table display at meetings and trade shows.
* More effort should be directed to find new sponsors.
* No effort means no more new sponsors.
* Syllogistics paid twice for a corporate sponsorship,
* the 2nd check will be returned with a nice thank-you letter
====== Server Admin ======
* FIXME THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF AUGUST 6th MEETING:
* Need to break into the Sun machines again and reset passwords so they do not expire!
* Carl suggests connecting serial ports on bud to serial console on Sun boxes.
* Could then boot into single user mode.
* Would need to install minicom to access serial TTY.
* Should we setup our own DNS on Bud/Budlight & switch over.
* Make our own servers authoritative for our own domains.
* Would allow us to publish reverse records.
* Primary has said they can allow this.
* Would allow us to publish SPF records.
* We could offer dyanmic DNS services to our members.
* On a subdomain, such as users.sluug.org
* We have 2 Sun E250s, which are currently racked but not connected.
* Carl proposed parting out those boxes.
* Craig concurred.
====== Server Migration Project ======
* FIXME THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF AUGUST 6th MEETING:
* Craig has updated some of the documentation recently, as he built systems based on our docs.
* Backups
* Craig was to get together with Mike and/or Carl to work on tasks in July
* Work left to do:
* Make sure docs are up to date.
* Add documentation telling users how to configure mail clients to use Bud.
* Started documenting client email configurations, to help users migrate.
* See [[../users]] and [[../mail_setup]] pages.
* Craig - Work on finishing server builds.
* Document changes to PAM to correct MAIL variable. (Craig)
* More security, for SSH and otherwise.
* Get offsite backups working. (Mike)
* Publish SSH host keys on web page.
* Standardize/regularize user accounts (IDs, password expirations). (Mike)
* Other work to do:
* Better web site management tools
* Document useradd process.
* Develop standardized 'Membership List' & same UIDs on all production machines.
====== SLACC as a SIG ======
* FIXME THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF AUGUST 6th MEETING:
* Noel asked that we allow current email users to keep their SLACC.com email addresses.
* The registration is paid up until 2009.
* Carl - follow up with Noel about transferring the domain to us.
====== SNUG as a SIG ======
* FIXME THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF AUGUST 6th MEETING:
* SNUG attendance sheets and temporary web page made.
* Still need to add SNUG members to Discuss & Announce.
====== Membership (and Shell Accounts) ======
* FIXME THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 3rd MEETING:
* We had 2 new memberships this month.
* Membership drive
* Need to print out name tags.
* Omnitec will print them out and bring to SLUUG meeting.
* Cafe Press merchandise
* Carl/SLUUG/Lee need to reconcile demo merchandise
* Lee has proposed to sell pizzas as fund-raiser if continued insufficient Memberships & Sponsors.
====== Manage The Group ======
* FIXME THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF AUGUST 6th MEETING:
* Need new STLLUG chairperson.
* Craig can not do anymore
* Structure/timing/flow of meetings
* Need MC to run schedule at meetings
* Need to leave enough time for "off-line interaction".
* Plan on tutorials being planned for ~20 mins.
* Main presentations should plan for ~1 hour (1.5 hours at STLLUG)
* Has been running more smoothly lately.
* Lee suggested we create a Rails app on Bud to manage the group.
* Member data - payments, expirations, etc.
* Sponsors - expirations, etc.
* Attendance
* STL Ruby Group is writing a similar application.
* RAMS - Rails Association Management System
* We should leverage that, and guide it to our needs
* Scott Nesler has built an app for attendance
* Stan has plugged data into it for the year
* Not sure if the app fits any of our other needs
* (app is developed on CakePHP MVC architecture).
* Member Payment, expiration would be simple addition to existing table/screens.
* CRUD functionality simplifies expanding the application with additional tables.
* Compartmentalization of CSS and layout templates simplifies changes to the look and feel.
====== Small Business Expo - 1 October ======
* SBE will again be at St. Charles Convention Center.
* SBE is on same day as usual STEERCOM meeting.
* This may be a problem as usual suspects won't feel like doing both.
* We decided to move STEERCOM meeting up a day.
* Change to STEERCOM meeting date posted on SLUUG Home Page on 8 August.
* STEERCOM meeting date change listed in ANNOUNCE Events For This Week mailing.
* SBE support:
* Need BUSINESS ORIENTED demos - e.g. Accounting.
* Need dedicated SERVER to use and demo office functions (wiki, file sharing, ..).
* Will need booth helpers from 9:00 AM to 6:00 PM.
* Especially need people for setup (9:00 to 11:00) and tear-down (5:00 to 6:00).
* We have booth #101
====== Other Old Business ======
* None.
====== New Business ======
===== Domain Name for St. Charles LUG =====
* Scott Nesler purchased and donated www.stclug.org domain.
* Domain expires mid December.
* Do we want to assume ownership? Otherewise Scott will let it expire.
* Need to add to Apache configuration?
===== Other New Business =====
* None.
====== Follow-up and Action Items ======
* FIXME THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 3rd MEETING:
* Gary - Contact Don Hardaway and Craig Van Slyke (St. Louis University).
* Gary - Follow up on political topics for October STLLUG.
* Craig - Make sure change of registered agent form got mailed in.
* Craig - Contact Rick Clark (Ubuntu) about presenting at October or November STLLUG.
* Lee - Need list to print out name tags for paying members.
* Carl - Follow up w/ SLACC and SNUG leaders.
* Carl - Set up accounts for new members. (Lee has the info.)
* Barry - Follow up w/ John Hodge about a presentation in the near future.
* Lee, Barry - Get someone from IBM to talk about POWER6, AIX 6.0, etc.
* Craig - Email Jim Leingang @ S3 about $200 sponsorship.
* Everyone - Talk to someone about coming to meetings.
* Everyone - Talk to someone about sponsorships.
* Everyone - Talk to someone about giving a presentation.