====== SLUUG Steering Committee Minutes - 5 November 2008 ======
NOTE: Minutes posted on the wiki are always unofficial.
Schedules for upcoming presentations are always tentative.
(Some more tentative than others!)
====== Location ======
Saint Louis Bread Company,
(at Old Olive and Olive),
10550 Old Olive Street Road,
Creve Coeur, MO 63141
====== Date and Time ======
* Wednesday, November 5, 2008
* 6:50 PM - 8:29 PM
====== Attendees ======
* Carl Fitch
* Stan Reichardt
* Jeff Muse
* Lee Lammert
* Gary Meyer
====== Secretary Report ======
* FIXME THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 3rd MEETING:
* No report
====== Treasurer Report ======
* Balance: $1,346.55 as of 10/31/08
* Expenses: $94 for PO Box
* Receipts (pending submission):
* Carl - Annual registration fee to State of Missouri
* Craig - Submit receipt for voice recorder.
* Gary - Turn in receipt for domain registration.
* Need suggestions for following up with and attracting potential Sponsors.
====== Attendance Report ======
* Numbers, as of end of October 2008:
| Meeting ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^
^ Steercom | 5 | 7 | 4 | 5 | 5 | No | 6 | 3 | 6 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 7 | 4 | 2 | 4 | 5 |
^ SLACC | ? | 8 | 6 | 10 | 7 | 5 | 8 | 4 | 7 | 4 | (4)| ? | x | 6 | 9 | 8 | 6 | ? |
^ SLUUG | 18 | 16 | 27 | 36 | 21 | 24 | 25 | 20 | 14 | 12 | 23 | 17 | 31 | 18 | 17 | 15 | 18 | 21 |
^ STLOSUG | 15 | 6 | 8 | No | 11 | No | 5 | No | 13 | No | 6 | No | 20 | 10 | No | 12 | No | 11 |
^ SNUG | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA | 5 | 4 | No | 5 | 3 |
^ STLLUG | 23 | 20 | 31 | 31 | 23 | 19 | 25 | 20 | 17 | No | 16 | 17 | 29 | 22 | 20 | 23 | 13 | 15 |
^ STCLUG | ? | 8 | 11 | 17 | 10 | 11 | No | 11 | 9 | 11 | 3 | 13 | 5 | 6 | 3 | 6 | 3 | 19 |
^ HZWLUG | 9 | No | 11 | 11 | 10 | 10 | 15 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 14 | 11 | 11 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 9 | 11 |
* No - indicates no meeting.
* NA - Not part of SLUUG
* () - Numbers in parentheses are head count.
* ? - Question mark indicates attendance not taken or sheet missing.
* xx - attendance numbers not yet recorded.
* Dropped reference to LDAP meetings.
====== Mailing List Report ======
* Subscriber numbers (approximate) as of end of October 2008:
| List ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^
^ ANNOUNCE | 917 | 925 | 900 | 915 | 885 | 877 | 877 | 866 | 857 | 856 | 853 | 854 | 843 | 835 | 830 | 828 | 807 | 805 |
^ DISCUSS | 184 | 190 | 188 | 190 | 190 | 192 | 192 | 185 | 185 | 185 | 186 | 1?? | 188 | 188 | 192 | 193 | 192 | 193 |
^ STEERCOM | 32 | 32 | 33 | 32 | 32 | 32 | 32 | 32 | 31 | 31 | 31 | ?? | 29 | 32 | 33 | 33 | 33 | 34 |
^ SYSADMIN | xx | xx | 18 | 18 | 18 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 | ?? | 15 | 15 | 16 | 16 | 16 | 16 |
* Numbers will now be as end of each month.
* Blocking of mailing list attachments not completely configured yet.
* ANNOUNCE mailing list.
* Still no volunteer editor to do a Quarterly or monthly newsletter.
====== Meeting Review and Comments ======
===== September 2008 =====
==== HZWLUG - September 30 ====
* NOT reviewed at last STEERCOM meeting.
* Meetings are usually on 4th Tuesday (would have been 23rd).
* Because of Prairie Commons Library Branch September schedule we had to switch to 5th Tuesday.
* The STEERCOM meeting was also held this same evening, one day early.
* Topics are usually determined by attendees. We sometimes cover more than one.
* TOPIC: Using SSH -X to run X Windows System applications remotely
* New projector really helped enhance the meeting for the members!
===== October 2008 =====
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==== SLACC - October 2 ====
* Linux Configuration Workshop - No presentation.
* Observations.
==== SLUUG - October 8 ====
* BASE: Waived in liu of main presentation.
* MAIN: VMWare 6.5 & Server 2.0 by Matt Skipton, VMware (via Lee)
* Very good information and skilled presentation.
* Even with extra time, it still ran over.
* Lots of follow up DISCUSS list activity.
==== Solaris - October 14 ====
* TOPIC: Bob Netherton ZFS as a root file system
* Lots of new interesting features.
* Excellent presentation.
* Expect that Bob Netherton will be moving back to St. Louis within next 6 months.
==== SNUG - October 15 ====
* TOPIC: Live Demo of Teaming and Conferencing Server by Gary Hollingsworth
* Good handout and talk. Actual virtual machine would not work, will try again next month.
==== STLLUG - October 16 ====
* TOPIC: The Do Good Gauge by Scott Nesler
* See [[http://www.dogoodgauge.com|Do Good Gauge]] concept
* Took long time to build background, but lots of participation.
* Actual technical tools were amazing and facinating.
* Scott carried it off, quite well.
==== STCLUG - October 23 ====
* TOPIC: Nexradis Release Party
* Really great cake!
* Suprizingly large turn out. Much particiption.
* We would like to get him to do it again at St. Louis LUG.
* Well run, well planned and really cool.
==== HZWLUG - October 28 ====
* Topics are usually determined by attendees. We sometimes cover more than one.
* TOPIC1: The Lightning add-on to Thunderbird and Google STL computer events
* TOPIC2: Exploring the /var directory (was not done in September). Will continue next month.
* TOPIC3: ??
* Posted a general review of the meeting on DISCUSS. No responses.
* We need to remember to move video projector further back from screen.
* Other observations.
====== Presentation Schedule ======
===== November 2008 =====
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==== SLACC - November 6 ====
* Linux Configuration Workshop - No presentation.
==== HOLIDAY - November 11 ====
* Veterans Day
==== SLUUG - November 12 ====
* BASE: What's a wajig (and why should your care) by Carl Fitch
* MAIN: Booting PC Style! by Rich Seibel (via Gary - need to confirm the date)
* ABSTRACT: This is what happens BEFORE GRUB or LILO on x86 PC hardware with standard BIOS - stages 1, 2, and 3. A hardware talk, but some references to how it varies from OS to OS. NOT PXE or EFI.
==== Solaris - November 18 ====
* TOPIC: TBD Jeff is at an Ambassadors meeting today in Calif. He can bring back odds & ends from there to discuss but would appreciate if ANYONE ELSE can provide a talk. (via Gary) J
Jeff Muse and Carl Fitch will be setting up a dedicated DNS server in a zone (SUN virtual machine) during the meeting. Participation will be appreciated.
==== SNUG - November 19 ====
* TOPIC: TBD Will demo be working for the meeting?
==== STLLUG - November 20 ====
* TOPIC: Rick Clark (Ubuntu topic) (via Craig (Craig is following up this week, via Gary this PM))
==== STCLUG - November 2? ====
* HOLIDAY Schedule - need to avoid conflict with Thanksgiving Day
* November meeting will be canceled due to scheduling problems.
==== HZWLUG - November 25 ====
* Topics are usually determined by attendees. We sometimes cover more than one.
* OPTION1: Continued exploration of /var directory.
* OPTION2: Exploring the GNOME File Manager
* OPTION3: Partitions
* OPTION4: Anything else.
==== HOLIDAY - November 27 ====
* Thanksgiving Day
===== December 2008 =====
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==== SLACC - December 4 ====
* Linux Configuration Workshop - No presentation.
==== SLUUG - December 10 ====
* BASE: TBD
* MAIN: Possibly Scott Granneman's new Google Book ???Nice to get a different speaker? (via Gary)
* MAIN: Social Software used in the McCain-Obama Presidential Election
by Scott Granneman (via Gary)
==== Solaris - December 16 ====
* TOPIC: TBD
* May probably cancel due to holiday season.
==== SNUG - December 1x ====
* TOPIC: TBD
* May probably cancel due to holiday season.
==== HZWLUG - December 16 ====
* Holiday schedule.
* Topics are usually determined by attendees. We sometimes cover more than one.
* OPTION1: Exploring the GNOME File Manager
* OPTION2: Partitions
* OPTION3: Anything else.
==== STLLUG - December 18 ====
* TOPIC: TBD
==== STCLUG - December 22 ====
* HOLIDAY Schedule - need to avoid conflict with Christmas Day
* TOPIC: Favorite Applications (sort of like keyboard kareoke). CLI or GUI.
==== HOLIDAY - December 25 ====
* Christmas Day
====== Potential Presenters ======
These are some people who can present, and possible topics they can speak about.
* Don Hardaway and Craig Van Slyke (St. Louis University)
* TOPIC: Open Source on the Desktop: Why Not?
* Gary to contact them to request a presentation from them.
* See first article [[http://lwn.net/Articles/293907/ | here]]
* John Hodge
* TOPIC: APV (Advance POWER Virtualization) Overview
* IBM (via John Hodge)
* TOPIC: AIX 6
* TOPIC: POWER 6 CPU architecture
* Wehrenberg Theaters (via Gary)
* TOUR/DEMO: Digital cinema projectors
* Sanjiv Bhatia (or someone from UMSL, via Lee)
* TOPIC: Open Grid Computing
* December or January
* David Letscher (Prof of CS at SLU) (via Gary)
* TOPIC: TBD
* Still gone for summer. Awaiting details.
* Rick Clark (Ubuntu) (via Craig)
* TOPIC: TBD
* Not available until October
* Might be able to talk to STCLUG and STLLUG
* Jeff Logullo (Sun)
* TOPIC: MySQL - now a Sun product
* TOPIC: Project Indiana, a new package mngmnt system ala apt/dpkg
* TOPIC: Versioning filenames (snapshots?) in ZFS
* TOPIC: New release of ZFS
* TOPIC: Belenix & other live CD's based on Open Solaris
* Scott Nesler
* TOPIC: GIMP (follow-up from previous presentation)
* Jeff Muse
* TOPIC: various Solaris topics
* Ed Howland (via Gary)
* TOPIC: Last.fm, Amarok, etc. - free music downloads
* TOPIC: Building a modern kernel
* Stan Reichardt
* TOPIC/DEMO: Google Calendar
* TOPIC/DEMO: Using Scribus
* Tim Dreste (via Stan R)
* TOPIC: Untangle Gateway Platform
* TOPIC: CentOS Linux
* unknown (via Carl)
* TOPIC: EnterpriseDB (packaged version of PostgreSQL)
* Would be a video-conference, so requires solving logistics problems
====== Potential Topics ======
These are some topics that we've had requested, or brainstormed, but need to find speakers for.
* Technology and Politics
* Where do politicians stand on issues important to our group?
* Issues - intellectual property, privacy vs surveilance, subsidies & incentives, Common Carrier
* National, state, and local candidates and parties
* Would need to do in Sept or Oct.
* Tim Dreste might be able to get someone from Todd Akin's office to speak with us.
* Craig is talking to someone involved w/ the Obama campaign.
* Scott Nesler offered to present [[http://www.dogoodgauge.com|Do Good Gauge]] concept as a main topic or lead in.
* Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 (RHEL 5)
* Still looking for volunteer; tried Clark Smith at Red Hat
* Fedora recent releases
* SuSE or OpenSUSE recent releases
* Someone from Novell?
* Gary Hollingsworth?
* HP-UX current release, features, future
* Dave Mills?
* HP corporate?
* iSCSI
* Using git
* CPUs
* Features of modern Intel/AMD CPUs
* x86-64
* x86, x86-64, IA64, Sparc, PowerPC, ARM, POWER
* iPhone
* Developing for (web, native)
* iPhone competitors
* LG Dare
* Samsung Instinct
* Other Linux-based phones
* LiMo versus Google Android
* Linux from scratch.
* Installation from source - config, make , make install, etc.
* SplashTop - a quick booting distro.
====== Sponsorships ======
* FIXME THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF AUGUST 6th MEETING:
* Current paying sponsors have been asked to renew with nice letter in April.
* Gary - Ask Ajilon about continuing $200 sponsorship.
* Craig - Ask S3 - Strategic Staffing Solutions (follow up)
* Potential sponsors
* Sun - Jeff Logullo
* IBM - (John Hodge may have a contact)
* Red Hat - Clark Smith (Craig to follow up)
* Canonical/Ubuntu (Craig to follow up)
* VMware - Matt Skipton
* We should review them once or twice annually and establish an end date on recognition.
* Need sign about sponsoring our group for booth/table display at meetings and trade shows.
* More effort should be directed to find new sponsors.
* No effort means no more new sponsors.
* Syllogistics paid twice for a corporate sponsorship,
* the 2nd check will be returned with a nice thank-you letter
====== Server Admin ======
* FIXME THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF AUGUST 6th MEETING:
* Need to break into the Sun machines again and reset passwords so they do not expire!
* Carl suggests connecting serial ports on bud to serial console on Sun boxes.
* Could then boot into single user mode.
* Would need to install minicom to access serial TTY.
* Should we setup our own DNS on Bud/Budlight & switch over.
* Make our own servers authoritative for our own domains.
* Would allow us to publish reverse records.
* Primary has said they can allow this.
* Would allow us to publish SPF records.
* We could offer dyanmic DNS services to our members.
* On a subdomain, such as users.sluug.org
* We have 2 Sun E250s, which are currently racked but not connected.
* Carl proposed parting out those boxes.
* Craig concurred.
* Jeff Muse added Ultra and Busch - Sun Netra running Solaris 10.
* Xepect to use one like Bud and one for backup storage
* Will use the 2 Sun E250s for bacdkup storage.
* Want to ask for a bunch of Ultra SCSI 160 or 320 speed disc drives, size 36 Gb or better.
====== Server Migration Project ======
* FIXME THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF AUGUST 6th MEETING:
* Craig has updated some of the documentation recently, as he built systems based on our docs.
* Backups
* Craig was to get together with Mike and/or Carl to work on tasks in July
* Work left to do:
* Make sure docs are up to date.
* Add documentation telling users how to configure mail clients to use Bud.
* Started documenting client email configurations, to help users migrate.
* See [[../users]] and [[../mail_setup]] pages.
* Craig - Work on finishing server builds.
* Document changes to PAM to correct MAIL variable. (Craig)
* More security, for SSH and otherwise.
* Get offsite backups working. (Mike)
* Publish SSH host keys on web page.
* Standardize/regularize user accounts (IDs, password expirations). (Mike)
* Other work to do:
* Better web site management tools
* Document useradd process.
* Develop standardized 'Membership List' & same UIDs on all production machines.
====== SLACC as a SIG ======
* FIXME THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF AUGUST 6th MEETING:
* Noel asked that we allow current email users to keep their SLACC.COM email addresses.
* The registration is paid up until 2009.
* Carl - follow up with Noel about transferring the SLACC.COM domain to us.
* Check on SLACC.ORG - it seems to have changed recently - cybersquatter?
====== SNUG as a SIG ======
* FIXME THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF AUGUST 6th MEETING:
* SNUG attendance sheets and temporary web page made.
* Still need to add SNUG members to Discuss & Announce.
====== Membership (and Shell Accounts) ======
* We had 2 new memberships this month. Carl will coordinate with Mike.
* Rest is tabled until next month.
* Membership drive
* Need to print out name tags.
* Omnitec will print them out and bring to SLUUG meeting.
* Cafe Press merchandise
* Carl/SLUUG/Lee need to reconcile demo merchandise
* Lee has proposed to sell pizzas as fund-raiser if continued insufficient Memberships & Sponsors.
====== Manage The Group ======
* FIXME THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF AUGUST 6th MEETING:
* Need new STLLUG chairperson.
* Need new chair.
* Craig can not do anymore.
* Structure/timing/flow of meetings
* working better.
* Need more demos.
* Lee suggested we create a Rails app on Bud to manage the group.
* Member data - payments, expirations, etc.
* Sponsors - expirations, etc.
* Attendance
* STL Ruby Group is writing a similar application.
* RAMS - Rails Association Management System
* We should leverage that, and guide it to our needs
* Scott Nesler has built an app for attendance
* Stan has plugged data into it for the year
* Not sure if the app fits any of our other needs
* (app is developed on CakePHP MVC architecture).
* Member Payment, expiration would be simple addition to existing table/screens.
* CRUD functionality simplifies expanding the application with additional tables.
* Compartmentalization of CSS and layout templates simplifies changes to the look and feel.
====== Small Business Expo - 1 October ======
* SBE was again be at St. Charles Convention Center. Total cost $190.
* SBE was on same day as usual STEERCOM meeting.
* Very busy, excellent booth, good wall for projector image.
* Was worthwhile.
* Carl getting lots of email.
====== STL County Library Rooms - October 4 ======
* St. Louis County Library room reservations are made for next year on the first Saturday in October.
* Carl Fitch made SLACC reservations for Thornehill Branch. No January meeting.
* Suggest geeky demo of gadgets, blackberries, iPods, etc.
* Lee Lammert made STLLUG reservations for Indian Trails Branch.
* Stan Reichardt made HZWLUG reservations for Prairie Commons Branch.
====== Domain Name for St. Charles LUG ======
* Scott Nesler purchased and donated www.stclug.org domain.
* Domain expires mid December.
* Do we want to assume ownership? Otherewise Scott will let it expire.
* Approved, we will start using.
* Need to add to Apache configuration.
====== Other Old Business ======
* None.
====== New Business ======
*
====== Follow-up and Action Items ======
* FIXME THIS SECTION NOT CHANGED SINCE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 3rd MEETING:
* Gary - Contact Don Hardaway and Craig Van Slyke (St. Louis University).
* Gary - Follow up on political topics for October STLLUG.
* Craig - Make sure change of registered agent form got mailed in.
* Craig - Contact Rick Clark (Ubuntu) about presenting at October or November STLLUG.
* Lee - Need list to print out name tags for paying members.
* Carl - Follow up w/ SLACC leader.
* Carl - Get with Mike to set up accounts for new members. (Lee has the info.)
* Barry - Follow up w/ John Hodge about a presentation in the near future.
* Lee, Barry - Get someone from IBM to talk about POWER6, AIX 6.0, etc.
* Craig - Email Jim Leingang @ S3 about $200 sponsorship.
* Everyone - Talk to someone about coming to meetings.
* Everyone - Talk to someone about sponsorships.
* Everyone - Talk to someone about giving a presentation.