====== SLUUG Steering Committee Agenda - 2 November 2011 ====== NOTE: Minutes posted on the wiki are always unofficial. Schedules for upcoming presentations are always tentative. (Some more tentative than others!) ====== Location ====== Saint Louis Bread Company, (at Old Olive and Olive), 10550 Old Olive Street Road, Creve Coeur, MO 63141 ====== Date and Time ====== November 2011 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 * Wednesday, November 2, 2011 * 6:47 PM - 8:36 PM ====== Attendees ====== * Don Ellis * Lee Lammert * Gary Meyer * Jeff Muse * Stan Reichardt * Jerry Stutte ====== Agenda Changes ====== * Are there any additions, deletions, or changes to sequence of items in the prepared agenda? ====== Secretary Report ====== * Nothing to report, secretary not in attendance. ====== Treasurer Report ====== * Balance as of 10/1: $2009.94 * Balance as of 10/31: $2354.45 * Deposit from NUI: $ 500.00 + * SBE Booth Electric: $ 95.49 - * County Library - SLACC $ 60.00 - ====== Mailing List Report ====== * Subscriber numbers (approximate) as of end of October 2011: | List ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ ^ ANNOUNCE | 718 | 717 | 718 | 717 | 717 | 708 | 703 | 704 | 701 | 704 | 704 | 700 | 695 | ^ DISCUSS | 222 | 222 | 221 | 219 | 218 | 218 | 216 | 215 | 215 | 215 | 211 | 211 | 208 | ^ STEERCOM | 38 | 38 | 38 | 38 | 38 | 39 | 38 | 37 | 37 | 37 | 35| 35| 35 | ^ SYSADMIN | 18 | 18 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 17| 17| 16 | * Numbers as end of each month. * Blocking of mailing list attachments not completely configured yet. This will be much easier to do on Amber. * ANNOUNCE mailing list. * Still no volunteer editor to do a quarterly or monthly newsletter. * Command used to generate these (as root on Bud): * /usr/local/mailman/bin/list_members **list_name** | wc -l ====== Attendance Report ====== * Initial mail list subscriptions are prompted by attendance sheets. * Group leaders are responsible for taking attendance at meetings. * Blank attendance sheets are [[http://www.sluug.org/resources/attendance/|available here]] * Attendance numbers, as of end of October 2011: | Meeting ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ ^ Steercom | 6 | 5 | 7 | 5 | (9) | 5 | 5 | 11 | 5 | 6 | (5) | 3 | 5 | ^ SLACC | 8 | ? | 7 | ? | 5 | ? | (6)| 5 | 8 | 5 | ? | (4)| (7) | ^ SLUUG | 29 | ? | 15 | 18 | 15 | 14| 16 | 19 | 21 | 18| 12| 26 | 14 | ^ SNUG SuSE| - | 7 | 11(14) | 11 | 15 | - | 7 | ? | 8 | 7 | (8) | 11 | 9 | ^ STLLUG | 16 | (9) | - | 14 | 13| 15 | 15 | 15 | 14 | 15| - | 18 | 9 | ^ STCLUG | 6 | 4 | - | 4 | ? | - | 11 | 7 | 7 | 1 | 4 | 6 | - | ^ HZWLUG | 7 | 6 | 9 | 13 | 9 | 7 | 11 | 9 | (7)| 8 | ? | 7 | 8 | * NA - Not part of SLUUG. Jeff asked why this option is still listed. * () - Number in parentheses is head count. * xx - attendance was taken, numbers not yet recorded. * ? - Question mark indicates attendance not taken or sheet missing. * - - dash indicates no meeting. * NOTE - Corrected STCLUG August 2010 and September 2010 counts. * NOTE - February 2011 Steercom was via IRC #SLUUG channel on freenode. * NOTE - Oct 2011 SLUUG and STLLUG meetings were during a STL Cardnal's baseball game. ====== Meeting Review and Comments ====== ===== Oct 2011 ===== October 2011 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 ==== SLACC - Oct 6 ==== * [[http://slacc.sluug.org/|SLACC]] usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation * Confirmed some room reservations re-instated. ==== SLUUG - Oct 12 ==== * [[http://www.sluug.org/|SLUUG]] usually starts with a tutorial or demo session before a main presentation. * BASE: Vim: Wrangling Registers & Mangling Macros by Bill Odom * Lots of participation. Durn good, lots of fun. * MAIN: AlienVault by Jerry Stutte * Good overview of features. Looking forward to further detailed presentation in the Spring. * Note that Jerry's presentation skills are improving. ==== St. Louis Business Expo (SBE) - Oct 18 ==== * Info posted to SLUUG home page on 7 October, announced at SLUUG General Meeting on 12 October. * ANNOUNCE and DISCUSS posting got out late. * Booth was manned entirely by Lee Lammert, Stan Reichard and Gary McKee. * Impressions of the EXPO (as compared to Spring SBE): * Attendees more upbeat, some remembered us from the Spring SBE. * More exibitors, also seemed to be fewer small businesses (somewhat larger businesses). * Lots of iPOD giveaways. ==== SNUG - Oct 19 ==== * [[http://snug.sluug.org/|SNUG]] is the St. Louis Novell Users Group. * TOPIC: Installation of SuSE on laptop - Don Ellis and Lee Lammert * Good run thru for later presentation at STL LUG. ==== STLLUG - Oct 20 ==== * [[http://www.stllinux.org/|STLLUG]] is the St. Louis Linux Users Group. * TOPIC: Installation of SuSE on laptop - Don Ellis and Jerry Stutte * Great ball game, small crowd of dedicated geeks. * Needed to reformat thumbdrive and marked as bootable to do installation * Lots of participation solving problems, to choosing the correct distro. * LinuxMint loaded on both laptops, OpenSuSE would only load on one of them. ==== HZWLUG - Oct 25 ==== * [[http://hzwlug.sluug.org |HZWLUG]] topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one. ==== STCLUG - Oct 27 ==== * [[http://www.stclug.org/|STCLUG]] is the St. Charles Linux Users Group. * HIATUS: No more meetings until January 2012. Lack of interesting material combined with recent * disappointing attendance were cited by those attending as reason to not have meeting in October. * Plus, the upcoming holidays of Thanksgiving and Christmas conflict with usual November and December dates. ====== Presentation Schedule ====== ===== Potential Presenters and Topics ===== * Link to [[/steercom/potential]] speakers and topics. ===== Nov 2011 ===== November 2011 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 ==== SLUUG - Nov 9 ==== * [[http://www.sluug.org/|SLUUG]] usually starts with a tutorial or demo session before a main presentation. * BASE: Markdown (editor) by Scott Granneman * MAIN: Markdown tool in VIM by Bill Odom * BACKUP: To Be Determined (TBD). Ideas: Gary to investigate possibility of OpenIndiana. ==== SLACC - Nov 10 ==== * [[http://slacc.sluug.org/|SLACC]] usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation * Usual room and week of the month could NOT be re-instated, because of reservations foul-up. * Meeting date has to be one week later than usual. * Different Week of Month, Time and Location. * Meeting will be held at 7:30 PM, in Room 2, at the Bridgeton Trails Branch Library. * At 3455 McKelvey Rd., Bridgeton, MO 63044 * SLACC home web page has been posted. ==== SNUG - Nov 16 ==== * [[http://snug.sluug.org/|SNUG]] is the St. Louis Novell Users Group. * TOPIC: Brainshare review per Gary Hollingsworth ==== STLLUG - Nov 17 ==== * [[http://www.stllinux.org/|STLLUG]] is the St. Louis Linux Users Group. * TOPIC: Android Unix, and the emerging age of Ubiquitous Computing by Ryan Withers via Gary Meyer * BACKUP: To Be Determined (TBD) * STLLUG home web page has been posted. ==== HZWLUG - Nov 22 ==== * [[http://hzwlug.sluug.org |HZWLUG]] topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one. * Prairie Commons Library Branch room fee paid, Stan R. will be in Atlanta. ==== Thanksgiving Day - Nov 24 ==== ==== STCLUG - Nov 24 ==== * [[http://www.stclug.org/|STCLUG]] is the St. Charles Linux Users Group. * HIATUS: Because of Thanksgiving Day ===== Dec 2011 ===== December 2011 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 ==== SLACC - Dec 1 ==== * [[http://slacc.sluug.org/|SLACC]] usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation * Usual room and week of the month could NOT be re-instated, because of reservations foul-up. * Different Time and Location. * Meeting will be held at 7:30 PM, in Room 2, at the Bridgeton Trails Branch Library. * At 3455 McKelvey Rd., Bridgeton, MO 63044 * SLACC home web page has been posted. ==== SLUUG - Dec 14 ==== * [[http://www.sluug.org/|SLUUG]] usually starts with a tutorial or demo session before a main presentation. * BASE: TrueCrypt by Stan Reichardt * MAIN: Android and X86 Platform by Alan Griggs via Jerry Stutte * BACKUP: To Be Determined (TBD). Ideas: Gary to investigate possibility of OpenIndiana. ==== STLLUG - Dec 15 ==== * [[http://www.stllinux.org/|STLLUG]] is the St. Louis Linux Users Group. * TOPIC: Things you don't learn by having root permissions by Jeff Muse * BACKUP: To Be Determined (TBD) ==== SNUG - Dec 21 ==== * [[http://snug.sluug.org/|SNUG]] is the St. Louis Novell Users Group. * HIATUS: Consenus of October attendees, because of holiday season. ==== STCLUG - Dec 22 ==== * [[http://www.stclug.org/|STCLUG]] is the St. Charles Linux Users Group. * December 2011 - Must renew STCLUG.ORG domain. * HIATUS: Because of Christmas Season ==== Christmas Day - Dec 25 ==== ==== HZWLUG - Dec 27 ==== * [[http://hzwlug.sluug.org |HZWLUG]] topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one. * Prairie Commons Library Branch room fee paid, Stan R. will be in Nevada. ===== Jan 2012 ===== January 2012 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 ==== SLACC - Jan 5 ==== * [[http://slacc.sluug.org/|SLACC]] usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation * Return to Usual Location. * SLACC home web page has been posted. ==== SLUUG - Jan 11 ==== * [[http://www.sluug.org/|SLUUG]] usually starts with a tutorial or demo session before a main presentation. * BASE: To Be Determined (TBD) * MAIN: To Be Determined (TBD) * BACKUP: To Be Determined (TBD) ==== SNUG - Jan 18 ==== * [[http://snug.sluug.org/|SNUG]] is the St. Louis Novell Users Group. * TOPIC: Domain Services for Windows per Gary Hollingsworth ==== STLLUG - Jan 19 ==== * [[http://www.stllinux.org/|STLLUG]] is the St. Louis Linux Users Group. * TOPIC: To Be Determined (TBD) * BACKUP: To Be Determined (TBD) ==== STCLUG - Jan 26 ==== * [[http://www.stclug.org/|STCLUG]] is the St. Charles Linux Users Group. * Stan R. volunteered to be Point-Of-Contact for reservations with restaurant. * December 2011 - Renew STCLUG.ORG domain. * Meetings to Resume - If we can get leadership and topics. * ==== HZWLUG - Jan 24 ==== * [[http://hzwlug.sluug.org |HZWLUG]] topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one. ====== Old Business ====== ===== SNUG ===== * [[http://snug.sluug.org/|SNUG]] is the St. Louis Novell Users Group. * Need a copy of the SNUG by-laws. * Stan will get with Gary Hollingsworth to see if he can get us a copy. * 2011-10 Not likely that we will find anything, consider moot. ===== Password Cards ===== * Craig finally handed Mike Knight a copy of the password card. * Root passwords were changed at work party for Bud, Amber, and Redhook. * Lee will get Don Ellis a copy of the card. * 2011-10 Lee send PDF to Don, he needs to print a copy. * 2011-10 Don has his card. ===== Server Admin ===== * Bud Light offline due to fan failure, is still offline. * Michelob is dead. * Not sure anyone is willing to revive it. * If anyone is willing to spend the time, they are welcome. * Work party took place May 21 at Lee's place. * Much progress made on a Budlight replacement. * Some websites moved over to Amber. * Mail is working on Amber but need to migrate user accounts. * This is being held up by old-style DES passwords still in use. * Jeff is trying to get them changed. * Amber build is documented at [[:amber_build|Base OS Config]] * We rebuilt Budlight on DL380 G2. * 4 x 73 GB disks (old servers have 4 x 18GB) * 3 GB RAM (old servers have 4 GB) * Server was built, but not put online yet at this point. * It is functional, but we need spare parts for whatever hardware we deploy. * Jay Truesdale is looking for a pair of DL380 G4 servers to use instead. * Work party scheduled for July 9 at Lee's (9 AM). * Need to transition mail services to Amber. * Need to move wiki and www web services to Amber. * Stan has put a notice on the web page. * 2010-07 - Renewed SLUUG.ORG domain during 9 July migration work party. * 2011-08 - EveryDNS migration to DynDNS caught us unprepared. Craig moved us to buddyns. * Lee has made copies of zone files and we have BIND on amber now as an authoritative server. * We should probably make sure buddyns has up-to-date contact info. * 2011-10 Large number updates (~200) are pending. Need to apply. * 2011-11 Approved purchase of backup hardware, just need volunteer to go get it. ===== Wash U Cleanup ===== * 2009-09 Jerry Stutte, Jeff Muse, and Eric Xu volunteered to cleanup Wash U site. * 2009-09 Gary Meyer is Captain. * 2009-10 Captain is AWOL. Carl will be available in November or later. * 2009-11 Captain was AWOL. * 2009-12 Captain still AWOL. * 2010-01 Captain still AWOL. * 2010-02 Captain Gary Meyer still AWOL. Search party has not reported back. * 2010-04 Pending until next month at the earliest. * 2010-05 This project open since September 2009. Gary immediately left meeting. * 2010-06 Gary not here, nothing resolved. * 2010-07 Gary not here, nothing resolved. * 2010-09 Gary will work on this. * 2010-10 No progress. Stan questioned Gary's usefulness. Suggested that he is merely decorative. * 2010-11 No progress. See note above about Gary's usefulness. * 2010-12 No progress. See note above about Gary's usefulness. * 2011-01 No progress. See note above about Gary's usefulness. * 2011-02 No progress. See note above about Gary's usefulness. * 2011-03 No progress. Gary is in Florida. See note above about Gary's usefulness. * 2011-04 No progress. * 2011-05 No progress. * 2011-06 No progress. Unless there is rain Gary won't be attending until September. * 2011-07 No progress. * 2011-08 No progress * 2011-09 Gary did a site survey and said "Someday....." * 2011-10 Gary says to repeat above response, ie "Someday....." * 2011-11 Consensus is to do later, in Spring. ===== Recording Meetings ===== * 2010-12 * We have a voice recorder (VC) for recording meeting presentations and have posted some results on web site. * On 28 Oct Stan R. suggested buying an additional VC so that there wouldn't be a single point of failure. * We forget who has it. * We forget to bring it. * We forget to turn it on. * We forget fresh batteries. * We forget how to turn it on. * We forget to free up space on it. * There was some STEERCOM list banter but nothing was brought up at 3 November Steering Committee meeting. * Alternative of video recording suggested, huge size of video files was mentioned. * Stan R. passed voice recorder to Gary M. on 18 November and doesn't want it back. * Noah volunteered an old Digital8 recorder. * 2011-01 Continued discussion, but no consensus. * 2011-02 Not discussed during IRC meeting. * 2011-03 Gary M. returned voice recorder to Stan R. before going to Florida. * Stan needs to pull February 2011 STLLUG recording and post it (on Amber). * And email it to the speaker (Igor Gueths). * 2011-04 Stan R. passed on voice recorder to Phil Bunch, who should be at next general meeting. * 2011-05 Phil B. passed voice recorder back to Stan R. * 2011-05 Craig suggested getting another voice recorder (or 2), and extra batteries. * 2011-06 Jeff wanted to move that we use some of the Novell money to buy a second recorder. * Did not have a quorum. * Stan suggested getting one that records in ideally OGG, but failing that, MP3. * Either would be better than the current uncompressed format. * 2011-07 Group unanimously voted to buy 2 new voice recorders. * As long as they do not require Windows drivers. * Preferably record in OGG format, or MP3 at the least. * Upper limit $100 each. * Jerry and Lee will research and purchase. * 2011-08 No progress * 2011-09 Jerry has sent pricing information to Lee * 2011-10 No action on voice recorders. * Much discussion about projectors. Jerry S. will research available units. * 2011-11 Jerry and Lee still reseaching projectors and voice recorders. ===== Web Site Suggestions ===== * 2011-01 Mike Knight's emails regarding web site. * Stan changed the copyright dates. * Good idea to list other Open Source friendly resources. * On a separate page from our own SIGs. * Sites like WITS, CVillage, Arch Reactor, 2600. * Our site layout has not changed for years. * Would take some effort to re-do it, and seems to be working for most people. * 2011-02 Stan hasn't gotten around to building new resources page, yet. * 2011-03 No change. * 2011-04 No change. * 2011-05 No change. * 2011-06 There was brief discussion of implementing a CMS at the work party on 5/21. No decisions made. * 2011-07 Gary noticed Wayback machine has STOPPED archiving our server as of about May 2009. * It would be good to get resumption of archiving at Wayback. * How can we accomplish this? We don't know; so, we appointed Gary M. to find a way. * 2011-08 No progress. * 2011-09 No progress. * 2011-10 No progress. * 2011-11 No progress by Stan. ===== STLLUG Sponsorship Credit ===== * 2010-11 [[http://www.stllinux.org/|STLLUG]] is the St. Louis Linux Users Group. * STLLUG meetings are now hosted at IT Enterprises, which is affiliated with UMSL. * Typically because of meeting space value we recognize host as sponsor on our web pages. * Previously, some educational institutions (other than UMSL) did not want to be listed. * Lee updated the SLUUG web site [[http://www.sluug.org/sponsors/|sponsors list]] * Also added PayPal button to SLUUG web site [[http://www.sluug.org/members/join/|membership join page.]] * 2010-12 No status change. * We should push the PayPal usage. * 2011-01 Stan suggested putting Hostirian at the bottom of all SIG web sites. * 2011-02 Stan hasn't gotten around to the pages, yet. * Noticed .PNG file doesn't show up on old county library browsers. Do we have .JPG file anywhere? * Not discussed during IRC meeting. * 2011-03 No change. * 2011-04 No change. * 2011-05 No change. * 2011-06 No change. The spirit is willing but the schedule is weak. * 2011-07 Stan R. added Historian logo stuff to bottom of home pages of all active Special Interest Groups. * 2011-08 No progress. * 2011-09 No progress. * 2011-10 No progress. ===== LUGs and Attendance ===== * 2011-03 Craig brought up the topic of LUG attendance. * Why is STLLUG attendance so low? * Is it the location? * Was it the change in location? * Is it because we have too many local meetings? * Is it the improving job market? * With low attendance, we cannot bring in bigger names. * Telling Red Hat they'll have 15 people to speak with won't get them to come here. * Craig will post a message to DISCUSS. * Explain why I'm asking. * Ask why people don't attend. * Ask what we could do to get people to attend more often. * Ask if we should combine some of the LUG meetings. * 2011-04 * Craig has created a survey -- http://stllug.org/2011-member-survey * Need to have STEERCOM members look at it first, to make suggestions. * Craig will send out the URL to DISCUSS and ANNOUNCE once we're happy with it. * 2011-07 - Craig WILL send out the survey to STEERCOM, then DISCUSS and ANNOUNCE. * 2011-08 - No progress. * 2011-09 - Jeff thinks the greater availability and ease-of-use is impacting us, and that fragmentation is * leading people who would otherwise have come to the LUG to go to Android/mobile/embedded/robotics groups. * 2011-10 - No progress. * 2011-11 - Delete this section. ===== PR ===== * Jerry recommended we create a Facebook group and page. * Jerry recommended we post meeting notices on college campus bulletin boards. * Jerry will send out an email to Sanjiv. * 2011-05 * Several people were opposed to this idea. (CLARIFICATION 6/1: The opposition was specifically to facebook) * 2011-07 Gary Meyer volunteered to do PR for the group to get younger members involved. * 2011-08 - No progress. * 2011-09 - No progress. * 2011-10 - No progress. * 2011-11 - Delete this section. ===== SLACC Library Reservations ===== * 2011-07 [[http://slacc.sluug.org/|SLACC]] usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation * St. Louis County Library Thornhill Branch indicated room fee was not paid * All reservations had been canceled. Had to pay cash for meeting. * Review of minutes indicated that check was hand carried to library. * Don Ellis said he had receipt. * Lee provided image of cancelled check to Stan R. * Stan R. talked to Thornhill staff (Nick), * Confirmed room reservations re-instated, except for November and December conflicts. * 2011-08 - No report * 2011-09 - No report * 2011-10 - November and December reservations for SLACC were moved to Bridgeton Trails Branch. * SLACC reservations at Thornhill Branch CY 2012 thru June were made, check hand carried by Stan R. * SLACC web site updated. ===== HZWLUG Library Reservations ===== * 2011-10 - Hazelwood Linux Users Group reservations at Prairie Commons Branch for CY 2012 thru June. * Stan R. paid room fees. * HZWLUG web site updated. ====== New Business ====== * Need new chair, or co-chair for STL LUG group. * Need new Secretary. * ===== Other New Business ===== * None. ====== Annual Requirements ====== * 13 December 2011 - Renew SLUUG.INFO domain. * 17 December 2011 - Renew STCLUG.ORG domain. * 09 February 2012 - Renew STLLINUX.ORG domain. * February 2012 - SLUUG annual Board meeting and elections. * March/April 2012 - St. Louis Business Expo * April 2012 - First Saturday, reserve rooms at St. Louis County Library Branches. * May 2012 - IRS Form 990-N for Tax Exempt Status. * 10 July 2012 - Renew SLUUG.ORG domain. * August 2012 - Missouri Annual Report for Corporate Legal Status (now every 2 years). * October 2012 - First Saturday, reserve rooms at St. Louis County Library Branches. * October 2012 - St. Louis Business Expo ====== Blue Sky ====== * None. Moon-less night. ====== Recognize Useful Efforts ====== * Recognize completed action items, and other useful actions. * Who did what? * Stan R. updated web sites, created agenda. * Gary M. sent ANNOUNCE mailings. * Lee L. submitted treasures report. * Jeff Muse did significant research on email problems. ====== Follow-up and Action Items ====== * Everyone - Talk to someone about coming to meetings. * Everyone - Talk to someone about sponsorships. * Everyone - Talk to someone about giving a presentation. * Craig - talk to Splunk reps about presenting. * Craig - follow up on potential presentations. * Kyle Cordes - ffmpeg or other * GStreamer * Jerry - find someone to talk to us about Android. * Talk to Joshua Frank and Bill Zimmerly. * Talk to Rich Siebel to see if Andrew Prunicki of OCI can talk to us. * See Announce list from February 2009 for speakers from Java SIG presentations. * Noah - work on Amber build. * Gary - follow up with Noel about transferring the SLACC.COM domain to us. * Gary - get Wash U site cleaned up.