====== SLUUG Steering Committee Agenda - 29 April 2019 for MAY ====== NOTE: Minutes posted on the Wiki are always unofficial. Schedules for upcoming presentations are always tentative. (Some more tentative than others!) ====== Location ====== Panera ~ Saint Louis Bread Company, (at Old Olive and Olive), 10550 Old Olive Street Road, Creve Coeur, MO 63141 ====== Date and Time ====== April 2019 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 May 2019 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 ====== Start Meeting ====== * Monday, April 29th, 2019 for MAY * Meeting called to order. * Time: 7:08pm ====== Attendees ====== Listed alphabetically by last name: :?: * Chuck Doolittle * Don Ellis * David Forrest :?: * Ken Johnson :?: * Lee Lammert * Gary Meyer * Stan Reichardt * Steve Stegmann ====== Agenda Changes ====== * Are there any additions, deletions, or other changes to sequence of items in the prepared agenda? * 2019-04-29 (for MAY) * :?: ====== Secretary Report ====== * Don Ellis * 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO JANUARY AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT! * 2019-04-29 (for MAY) * :?: ====== Treasurer Report ====== ^ Balance as of 1 April | |$4,388.41 | ^ County Library | $-60 | ^ County Library | $-60 | ^ Balance as of 30 April | | $4,268.41 | ====== Calendar Report ====== * [[http://www.sluug.org/resources/calendar|SLUUG Calendar]] is a Google Calendar available on our web site. * This is a calendar of technical events in the Greater St. Louis area and surrounding regions. * Not all events are official/sponsored SLUUG events. * Items have been added and corrected by Stan R, Gary Meyer and Don Ellis. * Items listed on this calendar feed the ANNOUNCE weekly mailing. * Events on HIATUS are NOT counted! Historical items are NOT counted! Only face to face meetings are counted! * Count of number of events listed, each month, as of end of April 2019: | Year ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | Year ^ ^ 2011 | ? | ? | 105 | 108 | 103 | 117 | 105 | 105 | 105 | 113 | 103 | 96 ^ 2011 ^ ^ 2012 | 110 | 104 | 122 | 123 | 138 | 111 | 99 | 124 | 122 | 133 | 114 | 111 ^ 2012 ^ ^ 2013 | 123 | 128 | 136 | 147 | 144 | 146 | 139 | 119 | 145 | 167 | 153 | 140 ^ 2013 ^ ^ 2014 | 143 | 159 | 174 | 165 | 188 | 165 | 132 | 136 | 173 | 165 | 141 | 107 ^ 2014 ^ ^ 2015 | 171 | 179 | 177 | 183 | 176 | 168 | 162 | 176 | 206 | 294 | 236 | 197 ^ 2015 ^ ^ 2016 | 260 | 277 | 314 | 231 | 183 | 191 | 157 | 166 | 222 | 224 | 212 | 157 ^ 2016 ^ ^ 2017 | 133 | 141 | 177 | 168 | 137 | 143 | 124 | 158 | 173 | 163 | 168 | 129 ^ 2017 ^ ^ 2018 | 165 | 177 | 166 | 179 | 162 | 165 | 147 | 176 | 166 | 184 | 163 | 113 ^ 2018 ^ ^ 2019 | 131 | 160 | 173 ^ 171 | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? ^ 2019 ^ * xxx - numbers not yet recorded. * ??? - Future Numbers. * Stopped counting general StL County Library events in May 2016. * Re-counted April 2016 without library events. ====== Subscriber Report ====== * SUMMARY Mailing List Report combined with MEETUP membership count, now called Subscriber Report. * Subscriber numbers (approximate) as of end of April 2019: ^ Year ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ '17^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ | | | | | | '18 | | | | | | ^ | '19 | | ^ Year ^ | List ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | Jan | Feb | Mar | Apr | May | Jun | Jul | Aug | Sep | Oct | Nov | Dec ^ Jan | Feb | Mar | Apr |List | ^ MEETUP ^ 273 | 285 | 291 | 299 | 301 | 302 | 304 | 315 | 319 | 325 | 336 | 340 ^ 348 | 360 | 367 | 372 | 375 | 377 | 385 | 390 | 393 | 402 | 408 | 416 ^ 416 | 423 | 432 | 443 ^MEETUP | ^ ANNOUNCE ^ 582 | 580 | 575 | 570 | 569 | 569 | 569 | 568 | 566 | 562 | 562 | 559 ^ 556 | 544 | 543 | 543 | 545 | 542 | 535 | 534 | 533 | 531 | 531 | 533 ^ 532 | 532 | 532 | 534 ^ANNOUNCE| ^ DISCUSS ^ 197 | 196 | 193 | 190 | 191 | 192 | 191 | 192 | 191 | 189 | 188 | 189 ^ 188 | 188 | 187 | 187 | 187 | 187 | 187 | 185 | 184 | 184 | 185 | 183 ^ 184 | 182 | 181 | 182 ^DISCUSS | ^ STEERCOM ^ 36 | 36 | 35 | 34 | 34 | 34 | 34 | 34 | 33 | 33 | 33 | 33 ^ 33 | 33 | 33 | 33 | 32 | 32 | 32 | 32 | 32 | 31 | 31 | 31 ^ 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 ^STEERCOM| ^ SYSADMIN ^ 20 | 20 | 20 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 ^ 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 ^ 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 ^SYSADMIN| * Numbers as end of each month. * Blocking of mailing list attachments not completely configured yet. This will be much easier to do on Amber. * ANNOUNCE mailing list. * Still no volunteer editor to do a quarterly or monthly newsletter. * Command used to generate these (as root on Bud): * /usr/local/mailman/bin/list_members **list_name** | wc -l (This doesn't seem to work on Bock.) * xxx - numbers were not recorded. * - - dash indicates list did not previously exist. * We do NOT have any account access or control to our presence and videos on Google+ or YouTube. * We do NOT know how or what to count in Google+ NOR do we know how to metric videos. * We do NOT know how or what to count in YouTube NOR do we know how to metric videos. * No way to change meeting dates or set temporary hiatus in Google+ ====== Attendance Report ====== * Initial mail list subscriptions are prompted by attendance sheets. * Group leaders are responsible for taking attendance at meetings. * Blank attendance sheets are [[http://www.sluug.org/resources/attendance/|available here]] * Attendance numbers, as of end of April 2019: ^ Year ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ '17^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ | | | | | | '18 | | | | | | ^ | '19 | | ^ Year ^ | Meeting ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | Jan| Feb | Mar | Apr | May | Jun | Jul| Aug | Sep | Oct | Nov | Dec ^ Jan | Feb | Mar | Apr |Meeting ^ ^ Steercom ^ 8 | 6 | 8 | 6 | 7 | 7 | 5 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 6 | 3 ^ 7 | 3 | 6 | 7 | 6 | 6 | 5| 5 | 7 | 5 | 5 | 4 ^ 6 | 6 | 6 | 7 ^Steercom | ^ SLACC ^ 7 | 12 | 10 | 5 | 7 | (10)| 6 | 7 | 8 | 11 | ?? | 6 ^ 6 | 6 | 7 | 9 | 6 | 6 | 7| 6 | 7 | 4 | 4 | 5 ^ 6 | 6 | 7 | (6) ^SLACC | ^ SLUUG ^ 20 | 17 | 24 | 17 | 10 | 13 | 7 | 13 | 12 | 21 | 14 | 16 ^ 14 | 13 | 13 | 18 | 15 | 11 | 8| 15 | 14 | 14 | 10 | 13 ^ 15 | 14 | 13 | 18 ^SLUUG | ^ STLLUG ^ 14 | 15 | 18 | 14 | 15 | 14 | 18 | 16 | 16 | 12 | (27)| ?? ^ 12 | 8 | 13 | 11 | 13 | 10 | 11| 15 | 13 | ?? | 9 | 9 ^ 18 | 11 | 11 | 16 ^STLLUG | ^ NEWLUG ^ 9 | 10 | ? | 7 | 7 | 8 | 7 | 5 | 8 | 5 | 7 | 9 ^ 8 | 11 | 8 | 11 | 11 | 9 | 10| 12 | 9 | 7 | 10 | 5 ^ 9 | 5 | 11 | 10 ^NEWLUG | * xx - attendance was taken, numbers not yet recorded. * ?? - Question marks indicate attendance not taken or sheet missing. * () - Number in parentheses is head count. Use head count if greater than attendance sheet count (or sheet missing). * * - sLUGs was STL Linux Users Group for Seniors with initial meeting 8 February 2015. Discontinued October 2017. * * - SNUG SuSe was STL Novell Users Group with lunch meeting. Discontinued December 2017. * - - dash indicates no meeting. ====== Meeting Review Comments ====== ===== April 2019 ===== April 2019 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 ==== STEERCOM - April 1 ==== * HISTORY Steering Committee usually meets on Monday of the week prior to (9 days) General Meeting. * VENUE Panera ~ St. Louis Bread Co., 10550 Old Olive Street Rd, Creve Coeur, MO 63141 * Link to [[/steercom/minutes|past minutes and agenda]]. * Link to [[/steercom/potential]] tutorials, topics and speakers. * :?: ==== SLACC - April 4 ==== * [[http://slacc.sluug.org/|SLACC]] usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation * VENUE St. Louis County Library Thornhill Branch * Need to show activity on Meetup so we are listed in calendar * Phil working on router so folks without wifi cards can get Internet access. ==== GPS End of Epoch - April 6 ==== * GPS clock rolls over * 6:59pm St Louis Time, midnight UDT * Little problems. Old hardware problem was notified to NANOG, GE upgrade notices for Boeing aircraft were not applied in China. One Finland plane returned to ground after noticing problem. ==== SLUUG - April 10 ==== * [[http://www.sluug.org/|SLUUG General Meeting]] * VENUE Graybar Electric Company Inc., 11885 Lackland Road, St. Louis MO 63146 * * BASE (Personal Computing): * TOPIC: GNU Make Your Life Easier by Ryan J. Price, Slalom Consulting, Clayton * COORDINATOR: Gary * CONFIRMED: YES * ABSTRACT: YES * BIO: YES * Really got across enthuziasm for "make". Well done, a little difficult to follow * if you didn't understan his choice of language. * * MAIN (Enterprise Computing): * TOPIC: Rehoming Web Sites to Docker Containers by Chuck * COORDINATOR: Gary * CONFIRMED: YES * ABSTRACT: NO * BIO: NO * Everybody said was good. Could have been better if shown on bare metal. * Some don't really get virtuallization. ==== STLLUG - April 18 ==== * [[https://stllug.sluug.org/|STLLUG]] is the St. Louis Linux Users Group. * VENUE Nick and Elena's Pizzeria, 3007 Woodson Rd, Overland, MO 63114 * * TOPIC: Ken Johnson, Password Managers, How and Why * COORDINATOR: Gary * CONFIRMED: YES * ABSTRACT: YES * BIO: YES * New waitress too noisy. * Always good that Ken starts out with the problem that led to the project. * Pacing was nice. Topic for another presentation about offline storage of * the password vault of choice. ==== NEWLUG - April 23 ==== * [[http://newlug.sluug.org |NEWLUG]] Our Linux Users Group for Linux Newcomers. * VENUE St. Louis County Library Bridgeton Trails Branch * TOPICS are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one topic. * NEWLUG home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which to take off * Stan had 4 thumb drives with 30GB videos for newcomers. People came out and loaded them. Dave just returned his to Stan. Those with laptops (USB3) copied very fast! * Stan now has a lot of pretty pictures on the returned thumb drives! * Dave says there were a lot of newcomers who've attended 7-8 years, mostly old timers. * Stan is surprised at how many people are ready for CLI after using Mint for a month or two. * Gary shared how one guy was interested in how GPS works. * Dave & Stan discussed Julian dates and how useful they are in absolute time systems. ==== STEERCOM - April 29 for MAY ==== * HISTORY Steering Committee usually meets on Monday of the week prior to (9 days) General Meeting. * VENUE Panera ~ St. Louis Bread Co., 10550 Old Olive Street Rd, Creve Coeur, MO 63141 * Link to [[/steercom/minutes|past minutes and agenda]]. * Link to [[/steercom/potential]] tutorials, topics and speakers. * Gary started under the impression that next steercom meeting would be first Monday in May. Realized his error near end of April. ====== Schedule ====== ===== May 2019 ===== May 2019 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 ==== SLACC - May 2 ==== * [[http://slacc.sluug.org/|SLACC]] usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation * VENUE St. Louis County Library Thornhill Branch * :?: ==== SLUUG - May 8 ==== * [[http://www.sluug.org/|SLUUG General Meeting]] * VENUE Graybar Electric Company Inc., 11885 Lackland Road, St. Louis MO 63146 * * BASE (Personal Computing): * Carolyn Peters (Mastercard): Bash for relatively new user. Long enough for main presentation, or do hour long intro followed by shorter main. * COORDINATOR: Gary * CONFIRMED: Yes * ABSTRACT: Yes * BIO: Yes * MAIN (Enterprise Computing): * Dave Forrest: LYNIS security tool * COORDINATOR: Gary * CONFIRMED: Yes * ABSTRACT: NO * BIO: Yes ==== STLLUG - May 16 ==== * [[https://stllug.sluug.org/|STLLUG]] is the St. Louis Linux Users Group. * VENUE Nick and Elena's Pizzeria, 3007 Woodson Rd, Overland, MO 63114 * * TOPIC: TO BE DETERMINED (TBD) * COORDINATOR: NONE * CONFIRMED: NO * ABSTRACT: NO * BIO: NO * Tentative (very): Eric Kauffmann: Linux at SLU * Tentative (very): Steve Stegman: sed tutorial ==== NEWLUG - May 28 ==== * [[http://newlug.sluug.org |NEWLUG]] Our Linux Users Group for Linux Newcomers. * VENUE St. Louis County Library Bridgeton Trails Branch * TOPICS are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one topic. * NEWLUG home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which to take off * :?: ===== June 2019 ===== June 2019 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 ==== SLACC - June 6 ==== * [[http://slacc.sluug.org/|SLACC]] usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation * VENUE St. Louis County Library Thornhill Branch * :?: ==== SLUUG - June 12 ==== * [[http://www.sluug.org/|SLUUG General Meeting]] * VENUE Graybar Electric Company Inc., 11885 Lackland Road, St. Louis MO 63146 * * BASE (Personal Computing): * TO BE DETERMINED (TBD) * COORDINATOR: NONE * CONFIRMED: NO * ABSTRACT: NO * BIO: NO * Tentative by Chuck: Transparent SSL Web Proxy (Squid) * Tentative by Stan: Things to do with SSHFS. * Short beginner type thing, but needs to straighten out system -- BIOS giving problems * :?: * MAIN (Enterprise Computing): * Programmable Gate Arrays vs ASICS vs RealTime Linux by Bryce Meyer * COORDINATOR: Gary * CONFIRMED: NO * ABSTRACT: NO * BIO: NO * Tentative: * :?: ==== STLLUG - June 20 ==== * [[https://stllug.sluug.org/|STLLUG]] is the St. Louis Linux Users Group. * VENUE Nick and Elena's Pizzeria, 3007 Woodson Rd, Overland, MO 63114 * * TOPIC: Deeper Dive into Docker by Chuck * COORDINATOR: Gary * CONFIRMED: Yes * ABSTRACT: NO * BIO: NO * Tentative: IBM and Red Hat by Sami Allum of IBM * :?: * ==== NEWLUG - June 25 ==== * [[http://newlug.sluug.org |NEWLUG]] Our Linux Users Group for Linux Newcomers. * VENUE St. Louis County Library Prairie Commons Branch * TOPICS are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one topic. * NEWLUG home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which to take off * :?: ===== July 2019 ===== July 2019 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 ==== Independence Day - July 4 HOLIDAY ==== * First Thursday of month normally when SLACC meets. Will delay meeting for one week. ==== SLUUG - July 10 ==== * [[http://www.sluug.org/|SLUUG General Meeting]] * VENUE Graybar Electric Company Inc., 11885 Lackland Road, St. Louis MO 63146 * * BASE (Personal Computing): * TO BE DETERMINED (TBD) * COORDINATOR: NONE * CONFIRMED: NO * ABSTRACT: NO * BIO: NO * Tentative: * :?: * MAIN (Enterprise Computing): * TO BE DETERMINED (TBD) * COORDINATOR: Gary * CONFIRMED: NO * ABSTRACT: NO * BIO: NO * Tentative: * :?: ==== SLACC - July 11 ==== * [[http://slacc.sluug.org/|SLACC]] usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation * VENUE St. Louis County Library Thornhill Branch * Delayed one week due to Holiday * :?: ==== STLLUG - July 18 ==== * [[https://stllug.sluug.org/|STLLUG]] is the St. Louis Linux Users Group. * VENUE Nick and Elena's Pizzeria, 3007 Woodson Rd, Overland, MO 63114 * * TO BE DETERMINED (TBD) * COORDINATOR: Gary * CONFIRMED: NO * ABSTRACT: NO * BIO: NO * Tentative: IBM and Red Hat by Sami Allum of IBM * :?: * ==== NEWLUG - July 23 ==== * [[http://newlug.sluug.org |NEWLUG]] Our Linux Users Group for Linux Newcomers. * VENUE St. Louis County Library Prairie Commons Branch * TOPICS are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one topic. * NEWLUG home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which to take off * :?: ====== Old Business ====== ===== Server Admin ===== * SUMMARY: We put up a server on the Internet for email, it grew, and now we have to maintain it. * Minutes narratives prior to 2018 have been removed. * * 2018-01-02 * 2018-02-06 * 2018-03-05 * Situation at Contegix remains, running obsolete CentOS * Contegix has requested we move to more modern host system at much reduced monthly cost over standard rates (getting it free for past 10 years); have not yet received proposal. * 2018-04-02 * Mike Knight has been cleaning house to reduce volume [of Gary's email] that needs to be migrated * Lee has been discussing terms with Contegix for continued service * Lee has explored Digital Ocean -- they can't send valid confirmation mail * Lee is willing to put up server in Bat Cave * Lee will attempt a June 30 target date for migration * 2018-04-30 for MAY * We have new VPS (Virtual Private Server) -- Michelob, abbreviation "m" * Located in Bat Cave * Debian 9 * See Lee for access * Set goal to configure Michelob to go live by end of May * Work days to be scheduled * Web first half May * email & mailing lists second half May * 2018-06-04 * BOCK Transition Team met in Bat Cave on Wednesday 23 and Wednesday 30 May. Next session will be Wednesday 6 June. * BOCK Transition Team members Chuck Doolittle, Don Ellis (23 May), Mike Knight, Lee Lammert, Andrew St Clair, Stan Reichardt, and Steve Stegmann * Chuck Doolittle volunteered to set up *automated* LetsEncrypt free SSL certificates for websites on BOCK. * Andrew: We have running todo list on sysadmin tasks * 2018-07-02 * BOCK Transition Team met in Bat Cave on ... * BOCK Transition Team members Chuck Doolittle, Don Ellis (23 May), Mike Knight, Lee Lammert, Andrew St Clair, Stan Reichardt, Steve Stegmann, and Gary Meyer. * Ongoing AMBER replacement wiki [[http://wiki.sluug.org/amber_replacment| documentation]] * NOTE Surrounding pasted notes with < code > and < / code > tags improve display ~ stanr. * The XFER of all functions to BOCK on the VM at OMNItec (and off of Amber at Contegix) will happen **TONITE** after this SteerCom mtng. Lee has tested mail clients. * 2018-07-30 for AUGUST * Stan reports that we need to arrange to set up separate cert for stllug.org domain since it doesn’t match wildcard. Must be sure and continue paying for it! * Lee points out we can set up Stllinux.org to redirect to stllinux.sluug.org and avoid the warnings. * 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER * 2018-10-01 * Bock is humming * Lee has to install SpamAssassin * At some time may need to move to different hosts, but that won’t affect anything other than maybe a few hours downtime. * 2018-11-07 * November 2018 - *automated* LetsEncrypt free SSL certificates for websites on BOCK. * Lee reported it as done in October. * Consider that URLs www.stllinux.org and www.stllug.org both transition to http://stllug.sluug.org * Lee: Servers are running. Still need to do email filtering. * QUESTION (Stan): Do we have to worry about losing ownership of those two domains? * 2018-12-03 * ANSWER (Lee): Autorenew via Dotster -- sluug, stllinux, stlwebdev * 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT! * Lee Lammert and Mike Knight working on SpamAssassin. Extensive plan developed by Mike Knight. * QUESTION (Stan): Do we have to worry about losing ownership of the stllug.org domains? * ANSWER * 2019-02-04 * Lee: Everything's up and running thanks to Mike. New topic: DCC. What is it? Lee has no clue. * 2019-03-04 * Lee: Server is running. * ANSWER to previous question re Status of stllug.org: Lee is checking, something looks wonky. * Lee: Verified this AM, .. stllug.org appears to be forwarding successfully to stllug.sluug.org, which matches the LE cert wildcard. Please check for other issues. * 2019-04-01 * Mike's still working on ClamAV, but too timid to pull switch on ClamAV or SpamAssassin. * Need consensus that settings are right * 2019-04-29 (for MAY) * Gary would love to get a presentation on status of the servers, featuring Mike, Chuck, Lee * One possibility would be to have Andrew St Claire (or someone else) debrief them and give the presentation * Another possibility would be Lee could give a presentation on massive data recovery being performed evening of 2019-04-29 * Dave has noticed different handling of possible spam by SLUUG email system, and would like presentation on evolution of the email system. * Dave & Stan would like long 'spammy' tag not inserted into subject line on SLUUG STEERCOM emails * From Mike Knight's email 3:31am 2019-04-28: * 1 Should the "Subject:" of probable sp_m be changed to indicate that? * no * 2 Should high scoring sp_m be rejected and returned to sender? * no * 3 Should moderate scoring sp_m be moved to a "junk" folder of the member's inbox by the system? * no ===== Web Site SLUUG.ORG Maintenance ===== * SUMMARY: Our traditional Internet presence is with our main [[http://www.sluug.org/|SLUUG web site]]. * Minutes narratives prior to 2018 have been removed. * * 2018-01-02 * 2018-02-06 * Copyright date on web page footer changed. * Appearance of the drop down list of Special Interest Groups (SIGs) has been completely cleaned up by removing defunct groups. * Stan R has been experimenting with altering the SLUUG General Meeting [[http://www.sluug.org/|current design]] with new structure [[http://www.sluug.org/test/|TEST design]]. * This structure is same as the one Andrew Latham provided for the STL LUG and is now being used for all of our active LUGs. * Have not yet been able to figure out color scheme coding. * Setting the right sequence of sections for smart phone display will be important; but, is proving to be quite hard to manipulate. * Most sections look fine on desktop FireFox browser display; but, some are missing on smart phone display possibly because of considerable errors in HTML. * 2018-03-05 * Stan R had wrong meeting date on SLUUG main page (it still showed January date) and failed to update SLUUG February topics on MEETUP page. * Lee Lammert updated SLUUG February topics on the MEETUP page. * Above errors, delays and omissions may have affected SLUUG general meeting February attendance. * ANNOUNCE for the week and our Google Calendar entries had correct information. * 2018-04-02 * 2018-04-30 for MAY * Stan R has updated SLACC and Hazelwood meeting dates on respective update pages. * 2018-06-04 * Stan R is updating HTML pages on BOCK. * Special Interest Group meeting sites SLACC, STLLINUX and Hazelwood have been updated for June. * General meeting home page is a work in progress. What sponsor do I remove? * Lee: better question is "what sponsors do I keep?" * 2018-07-02 * Somehow the Sponsored Events half of the SLUUG Google Calendar lost permissions and had to be reset. That had caused loss of our abbreviated calendars on all web sites. * Andrew Latham provided some very constructive criticism on Stan R's effort to develop future replacement main SLUUG [[http://www.sluug.org/test/|test page]]. * 2018-07-30 for AUGUST * Stan is the magician * Stan: what happens come January? * Lee: we’ll just make sure Stan can’t sell the house. * 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER * 2018-10-01 * Stan R had switched main SLUUG home page style to smartphone friendlier format. * Stanford B complained about incorrect feature. Stan R suggested Stanford B could volunteer to fix. (Sound of crickets chirping.) * 2018-11-07 * 2018-12-03 * QUESTION: Are there any significant problems with the new home page style? * ANSWER: (Don) I had problem selecting the Wiki from top menu. Menu vanished when I scrolled down below item #6. Menu is white text, transparent over pale blue background. I scrolled all the way to bottom to get another list of links. Dave suggested clicking on the menu head, which opens another page of links. * 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT! * Stan R fixed error that kept website from displaying the ATTENDANCE sheets page. * QUESTION: Are there any other broken pages? * 2019-02-04 * ANSWER: Not that we know of. There's always one more * Stan is aware that there's a problem with top menu of main page, and it's not likely to be fixed in a long time. * 2019-03-04 * 2019-04-01 * 2019-04-29 (for MAY) * :?: ===== Web Site MEETUP.COM Maintenance ===== * SUMMARY: We have presence on [[https://www.meetup.com/Saint-Louis-Unix-Users-Group/|MEETUP.COM]]. * Minutes narratives prior to 2018 have been removed. * * 2018-01-02 * As of 31 December a total of 340 have joined with our MEETUP.COM site. See counts in the Other Kinda Stuff Report above. * (Stan) -- Meetup is a PITA and he ends up missing things. * 2018-02-06 * A total of 348 have joined with our MEETUP.COM site, as of this January. Compared to 273 last January. * See https://www.meetup.com/Saint-Louis-Unix-Users-Group/ * 2018-03-05 * A total of 360 have joined with our MEETUP.COM site, as of this February. Compared to ??? last February. * Unknown number have actually attended. * 2018-04-02 * A total of 367 have joined with our MEETUP.COM site, as of this March. Compared to 291 last March. * Stan wants someone else to respond to email inquiries and update calendar entries * One person attended March SLUUG meeting due to Meetup contact * 2018-04-30 for MAY * A total of 372 have joined with our MEETUP.COM site, as of this April. Compared to 299 last April. * 2018-06-04 * Transferred other social media issues to separate category. * We continue to need someone to help utilize MEETUP.COM resource. * 2018-07-02 * 2018-07-30 for AUGUST * Stan: Meetup maintenance is a PITA * 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER * 2018-10-01 * 2018-11-07 * Gary Meyer has signed up with MEETUP. Stan R elevated him to CO-ORGANIZER status so he can maintain pages and events. * 2018-12-03 * QUESTION: Should anyone else be elevated to CO-ORGANIZE status? * ANSWER: (Gary) Yes. Any volunteers? * 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT! * 2019-02-04 * 2019-03-04 * 2019-04-01 * 2019-04-29 (for MAY) * Procedure of last couple of months is working; i.e. changing the subject line to reflect current meeting flags the Meetup as having changed. ===== Saint Louis County Library Room Reservations ===== * SUMMARY: Room reservations at Saint Louis County Library Branches are available on each first Saturday of October and April. * HISTORY: We routinely reserve and pay fees for monthly SIG meetings at various Saint Louis County Library Branches. * Minutes narratives prior to 2018 have been removed. * * 2018-01-02 * 2018-02-06 * Thanks to Phil Bunch the April SLACC meeting date has been restored to the first Thursday of month pattern. * 2018-03-05 * Only the March SLACC meeting date remains out of sequence. Phil keeps an eye out for an 8 March opening. * Next deadline for reservations is 7 April; Stan & Phil Bunch will take care of it. * 2018-04-02 * Needed by SLACC and HZWLUG for last half of year * Stan & Phil have it under control * 2018-04-30 for MAY * Phil Bunch had success with all SLACC meeting dates and using Rock Road locations. Stan missed Saturday registration for HZWLUG. * All preferred Prairie Commons dates were Library reserved anyway, and differing dates and locations had to be found. The Indian Trails Branch messed up confirmations. * STL County Library Reservation made for SLACC and HZWLUG done, two payments still needed. i * Our web page schedules updated, still need to update location information on our Google calendar and all MEETUP information. * Problem with activating new Regions bank card used to make payments. * 2018-06-04 * Was able to pay for rooms with new Regions bank card; but, one of the meetings may not be properly credited by library. * The new Regions bank card may need to be realigned with different Federal account number. * 2018-07-02 * 2018-07-30 for AUGUST * 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER * 2018-10-01 * Saint Louis County Library Room Reservations for SLACC and HZWLUG to be made October 6 * Stan R unavailable; Phil Bunch had volunteered and Dave F. was to check in with him Tue 10/2 * Phil agreed to handle making SLACC and HZWLUG reservations. Stan R provided paperwork to Phil. * 2018-11-07 * Library had new reservation system. * New reservation system revealed that one December 2018 session had not been booked. * Unfamiliar staff booked some HZWLUG meetings to wrong branch. * Corrected reservations, confirmed all and paid all. * HZWLUG and SLACC home pages have been updated to indicate scheduled dates and room codes. * The next reservation cycle will begin again the first Saturday of April. * 2018-12-03 * Gary: System wide county library have changed reservation procedures around Oct 2018; working out bugs, had problems a month or so, but now seems to be working well. * 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT! * 2019-02-04 * This becomes important in April. * 2019-03-04 * Becomes important in April. * 2019-04-01 * It is now April. It's important * Stan's complaints: * Stan & Phil's notes posted to steercom last week, fill in later * 2019-04-29 (for MAY) * Reservations for SLACC and NEWLUG made and paid. * :?: ===== Internet Presence on Other Social Media ===== * SUMMARY: We presume that our single web site isn't enough to draw younger crowd. * Minutes narratives prior to 2018 have been removed. * * 2018-06-04 * Internet Presence on Social Media other than MEETUP.COM site needs to be addressed separately. * Transferred other social media issues from Internet Presence to separate stanzas here. * We have no presence on FACEBOOK or TWITTER. * We have lost control of our presence on GOOGLE+ and YOUTUBE. We don't even know how to count anything there. * See counts in the Other Kinda Stuff Report above. * 2018-07-02 * 2018-07-30 for AUGUST * 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER * Stan stated MEETUP.COM editing is problematic. * Stan stated that we STILL don’t have control of Google+ and YouTube * 2018-10-01 * Andrew MAY have been creator of G+ and YouTube presence * 2018-11-07 * 2018-12-03 * We do NOT know how or what to count in Google+ NOR do we know how to metric videos. * We do NOT know how or what to count in YouTube NOR do we know how to metric videos. * We do NOT have any account access or control to our presence and videos on Google+ or YouTube. * No way to change meeting dates or set temporary hiatus in Google+ * NOTE: Google+ will be shut down by the end of August 2019 * https://www.cnet.com/news/google-reportedly-exposed-data-of-hundreds-of-thousands-of-google-users/ * What do we do about videos that are up there? Do we have them archived? Do we need to capture them? Move them to U-Tube? Do we do nothing? * Stan R obtained hard drive containing Don's videos and voice recordings without having made any progress in trying to combine them. * QUESTION: Does it matter, do we know what to do, or does anyone care? * ANSWER: Gary will pursue G+; Don will pursue YouTube * Credentials, etc * 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT! * 2019-02-04 * 2019-03-04 * 2019-04-01 * 2019-04-29 (for MAY) * :?: ===== Uploading Presentations ===== * SUMMARY: We have recorded many of our past meetings and made them available on the Internet. * Minutes narratives prior to 2018 have been removed. * * 2018-01-02 * Don is presenting on this on Wed Jan 10 * 2018-02-06 * Stan R gave 1 TB USB Hard Drive to Don E for copying video and voice files. * 2018-03-05 * Don brought HD back to Stan R so he can mess around with it and get something done. * 2018-04-02 * With any luck, Stan R will report progress before moving to Vegas * 2018-04-30 for MAY * Stan R has not yet made progress * 2018-06-04 * Stan: HD is still in plastic bag * 2018-07-02 * 2018-07-30 for AUGUST * 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER * 2018-10-01 * Dave suggested finding auto CC system. Requires research * 2018-11-07 * Stan R obtained hard drive containing Don's videos and voice recordings without having made any progress in trying to combine them. * QUESTION: Does it matter, do we know what to do, or does anyone care? * Stan will be using his stream editor to combine the videos * Lee: Don needs to discover SLUUG video credentials and place them at bock:/home/SLUUG * QUESTION: Please explain "Share gmail data with screichardt@gmail.com" * 2018-12-03 * 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT! * 2019-02-04 * 2019-03-04 * 2019-04-01 * 2019-04-29 (for MAY) * :?: ===== Camera and Microphone ===== * SUMMARY: We try to record many of our meetings. * Minutes narratives prior to 2018 have been removed. * * 2018-01-02 * 2018-02-06 * 2018-03-05 * See how Stan's editing comes out and decide if we need to buy more. * 2018-04-02 * Don acquired 2 GoPro Hero4 cameras for evaluation. * Don will visit Schiller again to get quote for solution to requirements * Need external power, microphone, auxiliary lens, & remoter control for two cameras * Will get quote so we can allocate funds * 2018-04-30 for MAY * Don returned 2 GoPro Hero4 * one DOA * second camera demonstrated that file format is too bulky * second camera was defective * Don acquired directional microphone and mic mount for iPhone, and tripod for mic mounted assembly * Don is testing revised configuration * 2018-06-04 * Don: No progress yet -- will revisit next month * 2018-07-02 * 2018-07-30 for AUGUST * 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER * 2018-10-01 * 2018-11-07 * Stan R obtained hard drive containing Don's videos and voice recordings without having made any progress in trying to combine them. * QUESTION: Does it matter, do we know what to do, or does anyone care? * Don: Microphone bought online is not adequate; will continue to search * Lee suggested going to Schiller's and getting shotgun mic with 3.5mm * 2018-12-03 * ANSWER: see under "Uploading Presentations" above * Don needs to visit Schiller's again * 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT! * 2019-02-04 * 2019-03-04 * Don went to Schiller's & got camera, passed to Stan * 2019-04-01 * Don will go to Schiller's and check another camera * 2019-04-29 (for MAY) * :?: ===== Sponsorships ===== * SUMMARY: We seek financial support from the tech community. * HISTORY: We are not good at it. * Minutes narratives prior to 2018 have been removed. * * 2018-01-02 * 2018-02-06 * 2018-03-05 * 2018-04-02 * 2018-04-30 for MAY * 2018-06-04 * Nada * 2018-07-02 * 2018-07-30 * 2018-07-30 for AUGUST * 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER * 2018-10-01 * Gary commented on last week’s DevOps meeting - poor presentation but good food resulted in good attendance. * How do we get headhunters & job hunters to attend, resulting in good food. * Or, how to get commercial software vendors to sponsor meeting if we’re not in market for the software? * 2018-11-07 * The new style SLUUG home page no longer features a rotating sponsor logo display. * QUESTION: Does it matter, do we know what to do, or does anyone care? * Consider this a moot point, since we don't have enough to rotate (other than Lee). * 2018-12-03 * ANSWER: Ads are gone on new website * 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT! * 2019-02-04 * 2019-03-04 * 2019-04-01 * 2019-04-29 (for MAY) * :?: ===== ANNOUNCE Mailing List ===== * SUMMARY: The ANNOUNCE mailing is a weekly extract of our SLUUG GOOGLE Calendar of Events. * HISTORY: The subscriber list has been populated from attendance sheets by a nominating subscription process. * * 2018-04-30 for MAY * Stan found himself remiss in nominating attendee email addresses from attendance sheets. * Procrastination is ugly. Until this weekend, none of email addresses for all of 2017 were nominated to ANNOUNCE and DISCUSS mailing lists. * Suggest we emphasise self registration at each meeting by way of our [[http://www.sluug.org/mailman/listinfo/ | web resource sign up pages]]. * Print more cards with sign up procedure to hand out at meetings * If nobody other than Stan R will build weekly ANNOUNCE mailing, why bother with ANNOUNCE list? * 2018-06-04 * At a few meetings in May we pointed new attendees to self registration by way of our [[http://www.sluug.org/mailman/listinfo/ | web resource sign up pages]]. * With the transition from AMBER to BOCK we switched to using web pages on BOCK where mailing list sign ups are broken. * Magnanimous Mike Knight provided a DNS procedure with local /etc/host which provided a work-around process. * Stan R was able to send out the ANNOUNCE mailing using that work-around process. * Andrew St Clair wrote a script to help massage ANNOUNCE text; but, GOOGLE changed calendar text structure, negating effort. * Gary M never got together with Stan R to see how ANNOUNCE was assembled and deployed (Outstanding action item since 2017-06). * 2018-07-02 * 2018-07-30 for AUGUST * 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER * 2018-10-01 * Lee loves it, scans it every time it comes out * 2018-11-07 * Stan R failed to provide 1 November SLACC meeting listing with extra expanded editing to stand out in the 29 October mailing. * Subsequent posting to DISCUSS list used extra expanded editing features. * 2018-12-03 * QUESTION: Would someone else (besides Stan R) take on generating the weekly ANNOUNCE mailing? * NEW IDEA: Per Lee: Send Announce email to Meetup group instead of updating Meetup page every month * PROPOSAL: scrape info from calendar into weekly ANNOUNCE; send ANNOUNCE to Meetup email address * 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT! * Scraping info from calendar into weekly ANNOUNCE; send ANNOUNCE to Meetup email address * Would not work because of MEETUP.COM message size limitation. * QUESTION: Would someone else (besides Stan R) take on generating the weekly ANNOUNCE mailing? * 2019-02-04 * 2019-03-04 * 2019-04-01 * 2019-04-29 (for MAY) * :?: ===== Handouts ===== * SUMMARY: We have informational handout PDFs available [[http://www.sluug.org/resources/handouts/]]. * HISTORY: The PDFs are generated with LibreOffice. The originating files are stored along with generated PDFs. * Minutes narratives prior to 2018 have been removed. * * 2018-01-02 * 2018-02-06 * 2018-03-05 * 2018-04-02 * 2018-04-30 for MAY * Would be nice to have handouts to leave at ARIN meeting * Handouts would be excellent test of capabilities of Lee's new printer * 2018-06-04 * Does anyone NOT KNOW where to get our handouts, so that they could print and fold them? * 2018-07-02 * Does anyone KNOW where to get our handouts, so that they could print and fold them? * 2018-07-30 for AUGUST * 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER * 2018-10-01 * Should get handouts for SUSE meeting * If Lee can find right PDF, can make 20-30 copies * Lee has new printer * Stan was volunteered to tell Lee which brochures to print. Stan didn't volunteer. * 2018-11-07 * 2018-12-03 * QUESTION: Would someone else (besides Stan R) take on printing and maintaining an inventory of our brochures? * ANSWER: Lee will print them if someone will tell him what they want. * Gary: We still need someone to dictate content of handouts * 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT! * Linux User Group Name on the Beginner Handout will be changed from Hazelwood to Newcomer by Stan R.. * 2019-02-04 * 2019-03-04 * 2019-04-01 * 2019-04-29 (for MAY) * :?: ===== Linux Stickers ===== * 2018-10-01 * Gary suggests buying several of the packs @$1 to give out at meetings. * see unixstickers.com stickermule.com (same site) * Board ad hoc approved that Gary will purchase some stickers to use as giveaways. * 2018-11-07 * 2018-11-07 * Gary didn't realize that he was volunteered, since he is out of town momentum will likely be slow. * 2018-12-03 * QUESTION: Would someone else (besides Gary M) assume the mission? * ANSWER: Lee can't find source for printing tux key stickers * 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT! * 2019-02-04 * 2019-03-04 * Lee: Andrew is making some. Seen on StlTech. * 2019-04-01 * 2019-04-29 (for MAY) * :?: ===== Summer Workshops ===== * 2018-06-04 * Thoughts about announcing workshops for summer meetings instead of actual topics. Prevent having to develop presentations. OTOH, would be helpful to have topics for the workshops, so not zero effort. * 2018-07-02 * Stan R posted to DISCUSS mailing list an item with **SUBJECT: Possible SLUUG Summer Workshops**, inviting feedback on the topic. * 2018-07-30 for AUGUST * Stan: Being in the middle of summer, seems a little late to try anything, other than gather opinions for next year. * 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER * Start planning next April for summertime hiatus * Schedule “workshops” in July & August * 2018-10-01 * 2018-11-07 * 2018-12-03 * QUESTION: Should/Would someone set up a www.strawpoll.me questionnaire to promote and evaluate interest? * ANSWER: (Gary) Should: Yes. Would: No. No movement toward setting up and pushing questionnaire. * 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT! * 2019-02-04 * Still waiting for suggestions * Stan: more of a keyboard karaoke session * or maybe a hiatus through July & August * Gary: prefers keyboard karaoke over skipping * maybe tutorial * announce specific topic or make it a surprise? * 2019-03-04 * 2019-04-01 * 2019-04-29 (for MAY) * :?: ===== We Need Help ===== * SUMMARY: We don't have enough volunteers to do everything consistently. * Need new members who want to do stuff. Same as every month. * Minutes narratives prior to 2018 have been removed. * * 2018-01-02 * Lee has clipboard; has to give it to Don for entry into minutes * Stan has been snowed under & would like help updating list of previous presentations * 2018-02-06 * 2018-03-05 * 2018-04-02 * During Xmas break, grad student from Mississippi came to SNUG, SLUUG, & Linux. Gary needs to reach out to him and request the help he offered. Check sign up sheets from meetings. * Gary expresses concern that we're not getting new members. Need to find ways to connect. Do we need to cut back on presentations or find new people? * 2018-04-30 for MAY * Two or three potential new members among new attendees * 2018-06-04 * 2018-07-02 * 2018-07-30 for AUGUST * 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER * 2018-10-01 * Stan has done awesome work. Promises to leave by around January. * If Stan leaves, many tasks he does will have to be done by someone else * How can we get someone to perform these tasks? * Website? * Weekly announce list? * Might have to reduce meetings * Main vs Linux? * Hazelwood, SLACC? * 2018-11-07 * 2018-12-03 * QUESTION: Any new volunteers to help? * 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT! * 2019-02-04 * 2019-03-04 * QUESTION: Any new volunteers to help? * 2019-04-01 * 2019-04-29 (for MAY) * :?: ====== New Business ====== ===== Any New Business ===== * 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT! * 2019-04-01 * 2019-04-29 (for MAY) * :?: ====== Recognize Useful Efforts ====== * SUMMARY: When somebody does something to help! * QUESTION: Did anyone do anything helpful? * 2019-04-01 * 2019-04-29 (for MAY) * :?: ====== Blue Sky Ideas ====== * SUMMARY: Food for thought ~ anything not previously covered that provides mental stimulus for thinking about improvements or problems. * Some ideas are Off-The-Record ~ NOT TO BE RECORDED! * Some ideas should be publicized.~ SHOULD BE RECORDED! * If a speaker believes something should not be recorded, the record operator needs to be notified. * ** Each speaker should initially declare whether an idea should be recorded or not. ** * ** Each speaker should initially declare whether GPS location should be recorded or not. ** * 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT! * 2019-02-04 * 2019-03-04 * 2019-04-01 * 2019-04-29 (for MAY) * :?: ====== Recurring Requirements ====== * SUMMARY: We routinely rotate thru the following: * * June 2019 - BuddyNS SLUUG account due * June 2019 - Missouri Annual Report for Corporate Legal Status due. * https://bsd.sos.mo.gov/BusinessEntity/BusinessEntityDetail.aspx?page=beSearch&ID=681250 * Lee was considering changing mailing address * July 2019 - SLUUG.ORG domain is domain automatic renewal? Is it with Dotster? * October 2019 - First Saturday, reserve rooms at St. Louis County Library Branches. * November 2019 - *automated* LetsEncrypt free SSL certificates for websites on BOCK. * December 2019 - STLWEBDEV.ORG is domain automatic renewal? * * January 2020 - STLLINUX.ORG domain automatic renewal. * February 2020 - SLUUG Annual Board meeting and elections. * Verify renewal of certs with LetsEncrypt * March 2020 - Count Ballots * April 2020 - First Saturday, reserve rooms at St. Louis County Library Branches. * April 2020 - IRS Form 990-N for Tax Exempt Status. e-postcard. * ====== Follow-up and Action Items ====== * Everyone - Review the STEERCOM minutes, make corrections, act! * Everyone - **Talk to someone about coming to meetings.** * Everyone - Talk to someone about giving a presentation. * Don Ellis - upload older videos to Google Photos and/or Google Docs & publish links * Gary Meyer - Build spreadsheet to track domain name registrations. See http://bgp.he.net/ip/207.223.253.71#_dns * Gary Meyer - Did not follow up with Noel about transferring the SLACC.COM domain to us. * SLACC.COM is now in use by someone else. * SLACC.ORG could be registered. SLACC.ORG available for sale ~ only $499 * Lee Lammert - Reminder: If anyone needs SLUUG critical info, it's stored on Amber /home/SLUUG * Stan R. ~ Remind Gary Meyer to bring Penguins to meetings and hand out pamphlets. * Stan and Gary should get together and discuss how ANNOUNCE is done * Next March or April: * schedule workshops for July and August * Possible presentation - suggested 11/7/18 * Apple interfaces and accessories for audio & video (by Don) * Possible presentation (Stan R item) - suggested 12/3/18 by Lee * Identify/contact couple who attended Lee's Pi presentation, brought Pi cluster running Kubernetes ====== Adjourn Meeting ====== * Monday, April 29th, 2019 for MAY * QUESTION: When was meeting adjourned? * Time: 8:39pm