====== SLUUG Steering Committee ====== ====== 3 January 2024 ====== NOTE: Minutes posted on the Wiki are always unofficial. Schedules for upcoming presentations are always tentative. (Some more tentative than others!) ====== Location ====== * **No physical meeting until further notice ** * When we again have physical meetings, we would like to continue video meetings in conjunction with physical meetings. * 2024-01-03 Comments: * ZOOM ====== Agenda Changes ====== // SUMMARY: This is where we consider any additions, changes, deletions, sequence changes, or other changes to items in the prepared agenda. // * HISTORY: * We can consider changes prior to all reviews, planning and OLD BUSINESS items. * By jumping ahead, then back, without altering agenda layout sequence. * Do NOT alter agenda layout sequence, during current meeting. * Moving a listed item out of sequence makes later editing difficult. * * We can jump to **Old Business** items, consider, then back to usual sequence. * We can jump to **New Business** section, create new item, consider, then jump back to usual sequence. * By NOT altering agenda layout sequence during the meeting, that will keep it easier to build the next agenda. * AGENDA CHANGE: * **QUESTION:** Are there any additions, deletions, or other changes to sequence of items in the prepared agenda? * 2024-01-03 Comments: * :?: January 2024 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 ====== Start Video Recording ====== * **QUESTION:** Have the recorders been started ( they should be, before call to order )? * 2024-01-03 Comments: * YES ====== Start STEERCOM Meeting ====== * **QUESTION:** When was STEERCOM meeting called to order? * 2024-01-03 Comments: * Wednesday, January 3rd 2024 * TIME: 6:33pm ====== Attendees ====== Listed alphabetically by last name: :?: * James Conroy :?: * Jonathan Drews * David Forrest :?: * Ed Howland :?: * Ken Johnson * Lee Lammert * Gary Meyer * Stan Reichardt * Steve Stegmann * Sean Twiehaus ====== Secretary Report ====== // SUMMARY: Somebody has to build the agenda and then record the minutes. // * * **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to August 2023 Steercom have been removed.** * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: Stan R acting only as recording Secretary. * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: * Stan R would like Sean T to act as recording Secretary ( if present and he still would ). * Sean T not here, so Stan R. will act. * 2023-10-02 Comments: * Stan R would like Sean T to act as recording Secretary ( if present and he still would ). * Sean T not here, so Stan R. will act. * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: * Stan R would like Sean T to act as recording Secretary ( if present and he still would ). * Sean T not here, so Stan R. will act. * 2023-12-04 Comments: * Stan R would like Sean T to act as recording Secretary ( if present and he still would ). * ** Future Event ** Stan R gets run over by a truck. * Stan will Do tonight. * 2024-01-03 Comments: * Stan R would like Sean T to act as recording Secretary ( if present and he still would ). * Sean offered in future, as requested. ====== Treasurer Report ====== // SUMMARY: Lee Lammert has been posting balances from bank statements. // ^ Balance as of 1 December | | |$2,756.21 | ^ Steve Gomez Donations | $385.05 | | | ^ Balance as of 31 December | ||$3,141.27 | * 2024-01-03 Comments: * Thanks to Steve for the domations from 2022 & 2023!! ====== Calendar Report ====== // SUMMARY: We maintain a calendar of technical events in the Greater St. Louis area and surrounding regions. // * HISTORY: * Not all events are official/sponsored SLUUG events. All sponsored events are shown in red. * Items have been added and corrected by Stan R, Gary Meyer and Don Ellis. * Items listed on this calendar were used to feed the ANNOUNCE weekly mailing. * Events on HIATUS are NOT counted! Historical items are NOT counted! * Only face-to-face meetings were counted! * Detailed breakdown showing cancelled, defunct, delayed, missed, moved, and postponed meetings was being done. * The page has been altered to allow showing separate displays of supported meetings from sponsored meetings. * Stan R has discontinued doing detailed breakdown of calendar entries believing it is too much effort for too little value. * [[http://www.sluug.org/resources/calendar|SLUUG Calendar]] is a Google Calendar available on our web site. * Count of number of events listed, each month, as of end of December 2023: | Year ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | Year ^ ^ 2011 | xxx | xxx | 105 | 108 | 103 | 117 | 105 | 105 | 105 | 113 | 103 | 96 ^ 2011 ^ ^ 2012 | 110 | 104 | 122 | 123 | 138 | 111 | 99 | 124 | 122 | 133 | 114 | 111 ^ 2012 ^ ^ 2013 | 123 | 128 | 136 | 147 | 144 | 146 | 139 | 119 | 145 | 167 | 153 | 140 ^ 2013 ^ ^ 2014 | 143 | 159 | 174 | 165 | 188 | 165 | 132 | 136 | 173 | 165 | 141 | 107 ^ 2014 ^ ^ 2015 | 171 | 179 | 177 | 183 | 176 | 168 | 162 | 176 | 206 | 294 | 236 | 197 ^ 2015 ^ ^ 2016 | 260 | 277 | 314 | 231 | 183 | 191 | 157 | 166 | 222 | 224 | 212 | 157 ^ 2016 ^ ^ 2017 | 133 | 141 | 177 | 168 | 137 | 143 | 124 | 158 | 173 | 163 | 168 | 129 ^ 2017 ^ ^ 2018 | 165 | 177 | 166 | 179 | 162 | 165 | 147 | 176 | 166 | 184 | 163 | 113 ^ 2018 ^ ^ 2019 | 131 | 160 | 173 | 171 | 145 | 155 | 130 | 144 | 157 | 179 | 182 | 127 ^ 2019 ^ ^ 2020 | 157 | 172 | 188 | 147 | 152 | 174 | 171 | 154 | 168 | 163 | 184 | 155 ^ 2020 ^ ^ 2021 | 175 | 170 | 174 | 171 | 172 | 178 | 188 | 179 | 187 | 176 | 194 | 193 ^ 2021 ^ ^ 2022 | 210 | 219 | 244 | 219 | 234 | 228 | 251 | 229 | 264 | 268 | 270 | 238 ^ 2022 ^ ^ 2023 | 265 | 288 | 304 | 297 | 300 | 303 | 299 | 300 ^ 165 ^ 170 ^ 367 ^ 382 ^ 2023 ^ * LEGEND: * Greyed out areas indicate corrections or never previously reported counts. * xxx - numbers not recorded. * ??? - Future Numbers. * Stopped counting general Saint Louis County Library events in May 2016. * Re-counted April 2016 without library events. * Count of calendar entries for May is down from previous months. No explanation is given. * Count of calendar entries for March 2020 misleading because of * Limited maintenance effort for March 2020 because CORONAVIRUS-19 self-isolation effects. * Started counting **moved** and **delayed** items in April 2020 as considered being useful. * Improvements in Google Calendar feature limits to five days processing at at time, takes * about 10 times as long to perform counting. Much more tedious. * Five day limitation "improvement" gone, no longer takes so much longer to count. * ISSUES: * Originally only local STL face-to-face meetings were counted. Started adding remote meetings. * **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to August 2023 Steercom have been removed.** * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: * Due to weekend power outage Stan R didn't get most recent months; but, have listed from first of year. Did not do June and July, yet. * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Somebody does good work. Gary entries, Stan just corrects them. * 2023-10-02 Comments: None * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: * Forgot to do September numbers last meeting. * Forgot to do October also. * 2023-12-04 Comments: * Went back to get counts for September and October. * We found that Google changed the functions of the calendar display. * Google Calendar used to have an AGENDA listing feature, now replaced with more limited SCHEDULE feature. * We do not get same level of detail from SCHEDULE display that we used for scraping events for counting. * Counts from September onward seemed to be low compared to previous methods. * There is a way to ask for detail; but, not as of yet sure that it is giving good results. * Went back to August, only got 112 compared to previous method result of 300. * Went back to July, only got 108 compared to previous method result of 299. * Our ongoing cleaning up and removing of listings for defunct events may be reason for the significant change. * We never kept the files used from previous counting, so we are unable to determine how results have changed. * The new method counts all day events and events with a specific time, not historical entries. * So, we are now only counting events, not overall effort made while putting information on the calendar. * ** Future Event ** Stan R gets run over by a truck. * 2024-01-03 Comments: * Blame Stan R. ====== Subscriber Report ====== // SUMMARY: Mailing List Report combined with MEETUP membership count, now called Subscriber Report.// * HISTORY: * We counted how many were on each SLUUG mailing list, then started using MEETUP dot COM site. * These numbers roughly estimate size of our community over time. Both growth and shrinkage. * Subscriber numbers (approximate) as of end of December 2023: ^ Year | | | | | | |2017 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | List ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec |List | ^ MEETUP | 273 | 285 | 291 | 299 | 301 | 302 | 304 | 315 | 319 | 325 | 336 | 340 ^MEETUP | ^ ANNOUNCE | 582 | 580 | 575 | 570 | 569 | 569 | 569 | 568 | 566 | 562 | 562 | 559 ^ANNOUNCE| ^ DISCUSS | 197 | 196 | 193 | 190 | 191 | 192 | 191 | 192 | 191 | 189 | 188 | 189 ^DISCUSS | ^ STEERCOM | 36 | 36 | 35 | 34 | 34 | 34 | 34 | 34 | 33 | 33 | 33 | 33 ^STEERCOM| ^ SYSADMIN | 20 | 20 | 20 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 ^SYSADMIN| ^ Year | | | | | | |2018 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | List ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | List | ^ MEETUP | 348 | 360 | 367 | 372 | 375 | 377 | 385 | 390 | 393 | 402 | 408 | 416 ^ MEETUP | ^ ANNOUNCE | 556 | 544 | 543 | 543 | 545 | 542 | 535 | 534 | 533 | 531 | 531 | 533 ^ ANNOUNCE| ^ DISCUSS | 188 | 188 | 187 | 187 | 187 | 187 | 187 | 185 | 184 | 184 | 185 | 183 ^ DISCUSS | ^ STEERCOM | 33 | 33 | 33 | 33 | 32 | 32 | 32 | 32 | 32 | 31 | 31 | 31 ^ STEERCOM| ^ SYSADMIN | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 ^ SYSADMIN| ^ Year | | | | | | |2019 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | List ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | List | ^ MEETUP | 416 | 423 | 432 | 443 | 452 | 464 | 466 | 473 | 472 | 480 | 488 | 497 ^ MEETUP | ^ ANNOUNCE | 532 | 532 | 532 | 534 | 519 | 516 | 516 | 514 | 513 | 516 | 513 | 510 ^ ANNOUNCE| ^ DISCUSS | 184 | 182 | 181 | 182 | 183 | 183 | 191 | 190 | 191 | 191 | 190 | 190 ^ DISCUSS | ^ STEERCOM | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 30 | 30 | 31 | 32 | 32 ^ STEERCOM| ^ SYSADMIN | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 16 | 16 | 16 | 16 | 16 | 16 ^ SYSADMIN| ^ Year | | | | | | |2020 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | List ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | List | ^ MEETUP | 501 | 514 | 516 | 521 | 527 | 535 | 547 | 555 | 564 | 570 | 577 | 590 ^ MEETUP | ^ ANNOUNCE | 504 | 502 | 501 | 501 | 500 | 499 | 497 | 495 | 492 | 491 | 490 | 490 ^ ANNOUNCE| ^ DISCUSS | 188 | 190 | 189 | 191 | 191 | 189 | 189 | 188 | 188 | 189 | 190 | 188 ^ DISCUSS | ^ STEERCOM | 31 | 31 | 31 | 30 | 30 | 30 | 30 | 24 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 23 ^ STEERCOM| ^ SYSADMIN | 16 | 16 | 16 | 16 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 ^ SYSADMIN| ^ Year | | | | | | |2021 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | List ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | List | ^ MEETUP | 603 | 613 | 626 | 631 | 640 | 650 | 652 | 658 | 678 | 687 | 698 | 710 ^ MEETUP | ^ ANNOUNCE | 489 | 488 | 482 | 480 | 480 | 479 | 477 | 478 | 479 | 481 | 480 | 477 ^ ANNOUNCE| ^ DISCUSS | 188 | 189 | 188 | 190 | 190 | 189 | 189 | 189 | 190 | 195 | 195 | 195 ^ DISCUSS | ^ STEERCOM | 22 | 22 | 22 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 24 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 24 | 24 ^ STEERCOM| ^ SYSADMIN | 15 | 15 | 14 | 14 | 14 | 14 | 14 | 14 | 14 | 13 | 15 | 15 ^ SYSADMIN| ^ Year | | | | | | |2022 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | List ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | List | ^ MEETUP | 718 | 727 | 730 | 751 | 762 | 770 | 787 | 806 | 823 | 830 | 840 | 871 ^ MEETUP | ^ ANNOUNCE | 480 | 475 | 474 | 474 | 473 | 472 | 471 | 469 | 469 | 469 | 470 | 469 ^ ANNOUNCE| ^ DISCUSS | 198 | 198 | 197 | 196 | 197 | 196 | 196 | 197 | 199 | 199 | 199 | 199 ^ DISCUSS | ^ STEERCOM | 24 | 24 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 26 | 25 | 25 | 25 | 25 | 24 | 24 ^ STEERCOM| ^ SYSADMIN | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 16 | 16 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 ^ SYSADMIN| ^ Year | | | | | | |2023 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | List ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | List | ^ MEETUP | 886 | 898 | 918 | 927 | 936 | 945 | 960 | 976 | 995 | 922 ^ 946 ^ 972 ^ MEETUP | ^ ANNOUNCE | 469 | 470 | 470 | 470 | 470 | 470 | 468 | 468 | xxx ^ 468 ^ 468 ^ 468 ^ ANNOUNCE| ^ DISCUSS | 200 | 202 | 203 | 204 | 203 | 202 | 202 | 202 | xxx ^ 202 ^ 202 ^ 203 ^ DISCUSS | ^ STEERCOM | 24 | 24 | 24 | 24 | 24 | 24 | 24 | 25 | xx ^ 22 ^ 22 ^ 22 ^ STEERCOM| ^ SYSADMIN | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 16 | xx ^ 16 ^ 16 ^ 19 ^ SYSADMIN| * LEGEND: * Numbers as of end of each month. * Blocking of mailing list attachments not completely configured yet. * This will be much easier to do on BOCK. * ANNOUNCE mailing list. * Still no volunteer editor to do a quarterly or monthly newsletter. * Command used to generate these (as root on Bud): * /usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_members **list_name** | wc -l (This doesn't seem to work on Bock.) * Greyed out areas indicate corrections or never previously reported counts. * xxx - numbers not recorded. * ??? - Future Numbers. * ISSUES: * We do NOT have any account access or control to our presence and videos on Google+ or YouTube. * We do NOT know how or what to count in Google+ NOR do we know how to metric videos. * We do NOT know how or what to count in YouTube NOR do we know how to metric videos. * No way to change meeting dates or set temporary hiatus in Google+ * Don was to investigate Google+ status * Don was to place credentials for YouTube and any others on Bock /home/sluug * * **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to August 2023 Steercom have been removed.** * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: * Due to weekend power outage Stan R didn't get most resent months; but, have listed from first of year. Did not do June and July, yet. * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: * Stan R has put in numbers for June, July and August. * Stan R added Gary M's alternate email address to STEERCOM and SYSADM lists. * Stan R thinks MEETUP dot COM monthly increases are mostly phony. * 2023-10-02 Comments: None * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: * Forgot to do September numbers last meeting. * Stan R purged more than 75 names from MEETUP ( unrecognized, likely never attended any meetings ) to keep total well below 1000. * Gary made sexist remark. * 2023-12-04 Comments: * ** Future Event ** Stan R gets run over by a truck. * 2024-01-03 Comments: * Lee pointed out correction to program for doing counts. ====== Attendance Report ====== // SUMMARY: Somewhat reflects the community interest in topics. Or, how well we publicised event. // * HISTORY: * Initial mail list subscriptions were prompted by attendance sheets. * Group leaders are responsible for taking attendance at face-to-face meetings. * Remote session attendance display with ZOOM does NOT work automatically. * Remote session attendance done best using extra recording with Linux SimpleScreenRecorder software. * Blank attendance sheets are [[http://www.sluug.org/resources/attendance/|available here]] * Attendance numbers, as of end of December 2023: ^ Year | | | | | | |2017 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | Meeting ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | Meeting ^ ^ Steercom | 8 | 6 | 8 | 6 | 7 | 7 | 5 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 6 | 3 ^ Steercom| ^ SLACC | 7 | 12 | 10 | 5 | 7 | (10)| 6 | 7 | 8 | 11 | xx | 6 ^ SLACC | ^ SLUUG | 20 | 17 | 24 | 17 | 10 | 13 | 7 | 13 | 12 | 21 | 14 | 16 ^ SLUUG | ^ STLLINUX | 14 | 15 | 18 | 14 | 15 | 14 | 18 | 16 | 16 | 12 | (27)| xx ^ STLLINUX| ^ NEWLUG | 9 | 10 | xx | 7 | 7 | 8 | 7 | 5 | 8 | 5 | 7 | 9 ^ NEWLUG | ^ Year | | | | | | |2018 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | Meeting ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | Meeting ^ ^ Steercom | 7 | 3 | 6 | 7 | 6 | 6 | 5| 5 | 7 | 5 | 5 | 4 ^ Steercom| ^ SLACC | 6 | 6 | 7 | 9 | 6 | 6 | 7| 6 | 7 | 4 | 4 | 5 ^ SLACC | ^ SLUUG | 14 | 13 | 13 | 18 | 15 | 11 | 8| 15 | 14 | 14 | 10 | 13 ^ SLUUG | ^ STLLINUX | 12 | 8 | 13 | 11 | 13 | 10 | 11| 15 | 13 | xx | 9 | 9 ^ STLLINUX| ^ NEWLUG | 8 | 11 | 8 | 11 | 11 | 9 | 10| 12 | 9 | 7 | 10 | 5 ^ NEWLUG | ^ Year | | | | | | |2019 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | Meeting ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | Meeting ^ ^ Steercom | 6 | 6 | 6 | 7 | 5 | 8 | 6| 6 | 8 | 8 | 7 | 8 ^ Steercom| ^ SLACC | 6 | 6 | 7 ^ 7 | 8 | 7 | 6| 10 | 10 | 9 | 6 | 9 ^ SLACC | ^ SLUUG | 15 | 14 | 13 | 18 | 12 | 15 | 17| (20)| 18 | 14 | 17 | 25 ^ SLUUG | ^ STLLINUX | 18 | 11 | 11 | 16 | 12 | 16 | 20| 16 | 14 | 18 | 18 | 17 ^ STLLINUX| ^ NEWLUG | 9 | 5 | 11 | 10 | 8 | 7 | 10| 13 | 9 | 5 | 6 | 3 ^ NEWLUG | ^ Year | | | | | | |2020 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | Meeting ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | Meeting ^ ^ Steercom | 4 | 6 | 6 | (8)| (5)| (7)| (6)| (6)| (7)| (6)| (6)| (5)^ Steercom| ^ SLACC | 9 | 8 | (6)| (8)| (7)| (9)|(11)| (7)| (10)| (10)| (8)| (8)^ SLACC | ^ SLUUG | 17 | 13 ^ (xx)^ (xx)| (18)| (22)|(29)| (22)| (16)^ (xx)| (17)| (25)^ SLUUG | ^ STLLINUX | 18 | 12 | (12)^ (xx)| (20)| (19)|(25)| (10)| (16)| (23)| (15)^ (xx)^ STLLINUX| ^ NEWLUG | 6 | 6 | - | (10)| (13)| (13)|(12)| (11)| (11)| (12)| (15)| (9)^ NEWLUG | ^ Year | | | | | | |2021 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | Meeting ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | Meeting ^ ^ Steercom | (5)| (4)| (5)| (5)| (5)| (5)| (6)| (7)| (5)| (7)| (6)| (6)^ Steercom| ^ SLACC | (10)| (9)| (9)| (8)| (14)| (10)|(10)| (11)| (6)| (9)| (15)| (15)^ SLACC | ^ SLUUG | (15)| (26)| (23)| (25)| (17)| (22)|(17)| (18)| (14)| (22)| (25)| (19)^ SLUUG | ^ STLLINUX | (20)| (19)| (20)| (19)| (17)| (17)|(15)| (18)| (20)| (20)| (25)| (20)^ STLLINUX| ^ NEWLUG | (13)| (15)| (16)| (14)| (9)| (10)|(10)| (11)| (15)| (12)| (16)| (10)^ NEWLINUX| ^ Year | | | | | | |2022 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | Meeting ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | Meeting ^ ^ Steercom | (6)| (5)| (7)| (5)| (5)| (6)| (4)| (6)| (6)| (6)| (5)| (5)^ Steercom| ^ SLACC | (11)| ( 9)| (12)| (14)| (12)| (11)|(13)| (11)| (8)| (12)| (9)| (9)^ SLACC | ^ SLUUG | (25)| (28)| (33)| (30)| (22)| (21)|(25)| (26)| (19)| (18)| (19)| (20)^ SLUUG | ^ STLLINUX | (28)| (21)| (20)| (20)| (21)| (17)|(21)| (18)| (14)| (20)| (16)| (33)^ STLLINUX| ^ NEWLUG | (14)| (xx)| (12)| (14)| (13)| (12)|(14)| (12)| (14)| (13)| (10)| (16)^ NEWLINUX| ^ Year | | | | | | |2023 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | Meeting ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | Meeting ^ ^ Steercom | (4)| (6)| (6)| (7)| (7)| (7)| (5)| (7)| (6)| (5)| (4)^ (7)^ Steercom| ^ SLACC | (10)| (10)| ( 6)| (11)| ( 7)| (10)|( 7)| ( 7)| (7)| (7)| (9)^ (14)^ SLACC | ^ SLUUG | (17)| (18)| (13)| (23)| (21)| (21)|(15)| (18)| (20)| (18)| (20)^ (23)^ SLUUG | ^ STLLINUX | (19)| (16)| (19)| (24)| (21)| (19)|(18)| (17)| (14)| (16)| (27)^ (20)^ STLLINUX| ^ NEWLUG | (12)| (14)| (14)| (14)| ( 8)| ( 8)|(14)| (10)| (11)| (14)| (18)^ (13)^ NEWLINUX| ** Proposed layout for next year, without parenthases.** ** Was agreed upon during December 2023 meeting.** ^ Year | | | | | | |2024 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | Meeting ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | Meeting ^ ^ Steercom ^ ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? ^ Steercom| ^ SLACC ^ ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? ^ SLACC | ^ SLUUG ^ ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? ^ SLUUG | ^ STLLINUX ^ ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? ^ STLLINUX| ^ NEWLUG ^ ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? ^ NEWLINUX| * LEGEND: * Greyed out areas indicate corrections or never previously reported counts. * xx - numbers not yet recorded, attendance not taken, or sheet missing. * ?? - Future Numbers. *(9) - Number in parentheses is head count. Use head count if greater than attendance sheet count (or sheet missing). * * - sLUGs was STL Linux Users Group for Seniors with initial meeting 8 February 2015. Discontinued October 2017. * * - SNUG SuSe was STL Novell Users Group with lunch meeting. Discontinued December 2017. * - - dash indicates no meeting (NEWLUG March 2020). * ISSUES: * Remote ZOOM sessions do not provide record of attendance. Currently done by Stan R with separate video recording. * * **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to August 2023 Steercom have been removed.** * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Steady attendance numbers, kind of same each month. * 2023-10-02 Comments: September numbers in prior years similar; so, the topic not necessarily reason for low attendance. * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: None * 2023-12-04 Comments: * Since there is no longer a sign-in sheet difference from actual head count, Stan R would like to remove parentheses that surround numbers. * Stan R uses a separate connection ( named Anonymous Coward ) to record virtual meeting attendance. Nobody else is doing this. * Stan R records meeting attendance in a LibreOffice Database and makes it available from the [[http://www.sluug.org/steercom/|Steering Committee webpage]] * Nobody else is recording the attendance or even seems to be looking at that ATTENDANCE database. * ** Future Event ** Stan R gets run over by a truck. * Gary does screen shots, giving some kind of attendance. * 2024-01-03 Comments: * Stan R was amazed at number of folks that attend NEWLUNIX day after Xmas. ====== Meeting Review Comments ====== // SUMMARY: We try to analyse what happened or what was presented at the previous months meetings.// ===== December 2023 ===== ==== STEERCOM - Dec 4th, 2023 ==== * The Monday prior to SLUUG General meeting. * 2023-12-04 Comments: None * 2024-01-03 Comments: * None ==== SLACC - Dec 7th, 2023 ==== * [[http://slacc.sluug.org/|SLACC]] * First Thursday of each month. Free format, no presentation. Always up to attendance as what is covered. * Usually no presentation; so, held as a **Configuration Workshop** offering installation and configuration help. * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None * 2023-10-02 Comments: Phil might be out town again. Will be using bookend slides again. * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Had one new person by way of MEETUP. Stan R fumbled the recording again. * 2023-12-04 Comments: None * 2024-01-03 Comments: * None ==== SLUUG - Dec 13th, 2023 ==== * [[http://www.sluug.org/|SLUUG General Meeting]] * [[http://www.sluug.org/steercom/planning.pdf|Planning Schedule Report ]] * Second Wednesday of the month. * BASE (Personal Computing): * STATUS: **Done** * WHAT: **ASCII Cinema** * BY: Shawn Twiehaus * SYNOPSIS: NA * WRANGLER: NA * ABSTRACT: NA * BIO: NA * REMARKS: * We did not have an alternative ( secondary ) topic on hand. * August SLUUG BASE was **VIM Side by Side** by Stan Reichrdt * September SLUUG BASE was **How to get started in emacs** by Steve Stegmann * October SLUUG BASE was **Pi-Hole** by James Conroy * November SLUUG BASE was **script recording** by Stan Reichardt * 2023-06-26 Comments for July: None * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Future idea: **Changes in Web Applications** by Dave Forrest * 2023-10-02 Comments: Will be doing on RaspberPi 4, can do with older. Doesn't need anything newer. * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Stan has a number of slides ready. Will cover unfinished features in demo. * 2023-12-04 Comments: * Stan R will be out of town during the SLUUG meeting on 13 December 2023. * Not sure if he will be able to attend remotely, and may not be able to record with SimpleScreenRecorder to track attendance. * 2024-01-03 Comments: * Really neat as a comparison to prior BASE done by Stan R. * Some really neat additional capability. ---- ** COOKIE TIME ~ ANNOUNCEMENTS ~ CALL FOR HELP (Gooey Middle): ** ---- * [[http://www.sluug.org/|SLUUG General Meeting]] * [[http://www.sluug.org/steercom/planning.pdf|Planning Schedule Report ]] * Second Wednesday of the month. * MAIN (Professional Computing): * STATUS: **Done** * WHAT: **Python's Pandas Data Frames** * BY: Robert Citek * SYNOPSIS: NA * WRANGLER: NA * ABSTRACT: NA * BIO: NA * REMARKS: * We did not have an alternative ( secondary ) topic on hand. * August SLUUG MAIN was **Hot Restore of a MySQL database** By Lee Lammert * September SLUUG MAIN was **Microsoft's Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2)** by Jon Newbolt * October SLUUG MAIN was **Risc-V Architecture** by Carl Perry * November SLUUG MAIN was **Microsoft Windows Subsystem for Android** by Jon Newbold, Microsoft * 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Nothing yet. Johnathan Drews trying to line something up about a game developer. * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None * 2023-10-02 Comments: None. * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Jon Newbold had to reschedule to 8 November due to work travel requirement. **A Great Disturbance in the Force**. * 2023-12-04 Comments: * Stan R will be out of town during the SLUUG meeting on 13 December 2023. * Not sure if he will be able to attend remotely, and may not be able to record with SimpleScreenRecorder to track attendance. * Steve Stegmann will also try recording. * 2024-01-03 Comments: * It was amazing. ==== STLLINUX - Dec 21st, 2023 ==== * [[https://stllug.sluug.org/|STLLINUX]] is the St. Louis Linux Users Group. * [[http://www.sluug.org/steercom/planning.pdf|Planning Schedule Report ]] * Eight days after SLUUG MAIN General Meeting. * LINUX * STATUS: **Done** * WHAT: **ZFS 3-2-1 Backup and Bitrot** * BY: Shawn T. * SYNOPSIS: NA * WRANGLER: NA * ABSTRACT: NA * BIO: NA * REMARKS: * We did not have an alternative (secondary) topic on hand. * August STLLINUX was **nushell** by Ed Howland and Robert Citek * September STLLINUX was **Podman Desktop** by Chris Bowland of RedHat * October STLLINUX was **A Mix of Tech Topics** by Ken Johnson * November STLLINUX was **Transport Layer Security ( TLS ) ** by Michael Lucas * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Not yet confirmed; but, considering (1) CentOS Stream (2) Redhat Podman (management for Docker). * 2023-10-02 Comments: Better NOT to have a speaker back-to-back, one meeting immediately right after another. * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Gary expects to dun Michael Lucas for abstract and bio very soon now.. * 2023-12-04 Comments: None * 2024-01-03 Comments: * Really a great presentation. Explained the Why, the differences, theory and philosophy of doing routine backups. * We really liked it. Covered alternatives. Thought experiments are good. ==== HOLIDAY - Christmas Day ~ Dec 25th, 2023 ==== ==== NEWLINUX - Dec 26th, 2023 ==== // SUMMARY: Previously named Hazelwood LUG (HZWLUG), then Newcomer LUG (NEWLUG). Now, Newcomer Linux User Group is designated as NEWLINUX. The NEWLINUX home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which we could start. Usually no presentation; so, held as a **Beginner Workshop** offering installation and configuration help. Topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover way more than one topic. // * [[http://newlug.sluug.org |NEWLUG]] was how we named our Linux Users Group (LUG) for Linux Newcomers. * [[http://newlinux.org |NEWLINUX]] is name that we can frequently use for our Newcomer Linux Users Group. * Fourth Tuesday of the month. * Free format, no presentation. Always up to attendance as to what is covered. * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None * 2023-10-02 Comments: None. * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: * Again had some difficulty and delay opening up public JITSI session. Also there were frequent drop outs during meeting. * Made a bookends slide-work for this Beginner Workshop meeting. Bookends working somewhat well with Announcements and main topic of Remote Support. * Gary went to private home site to assist a low expertise Linux user. The user was running Linux Mint 19 that was getting End-of-Support notifications. * One new attendee later wrote that he was having some unreproducible problem signing up for ANNOUNCE mailing list. Sent him signup nomination. * Two, and possibly four new attendees ( not sure, because they only would put in first names ). * Because Gary was providing on site assistance, he wasn't keeping watch on chat room activity. * Phil B helped a little bit with chat; but, looking at the recording later, a lot of chat postings seemed to have been missed. * Frequent attendees Wayne S and Tony C were very helpful with lots of input during the meeting. * 2023-12-04 Comments: None * 2024-01-03 Comments: * Larger than expected turn out for da after Xmas. Phil Bunch ran the meeting because Stan screwed up sound. Only later phoned in. * Had two female newcomers. Good thing they couldn't hear Stan cussing. ====== Meeting Schedule ====== // SUMMARY: **This is where we discuss available and confirmed meeting topics.** // **GOAL:** **To map out meeting topics for as much as 3 months out.** * **No physical face-to-face meetings until further notice.** * **When we again have physical meetings, we would like to continue video meetings in conjunction with any physical meetings.** * We try to track prospects to give presentations at our SLUUG General (SLUUG) meeting and LINUX (STLLINUX) meetings. * We try to segregate topic types as either **BASE, MAIN or LINUX,** with BASE and MAIN given at the General meeting (SLUUG). * **BASE** topics should be oriented toward simpler Personal Computing. Usually given at General meeting (SLUUG). * Short is good. Something fundamental, introductory, instructive or simple. * **MAIN** topics should be oriented more toward advanced or Professional Computing. Usually given at General meeting (SLUUG). * Something more advanced, detailed, important, profound, new, significant, timely or useful. * **LINUX** topics often could be either at the General meeting or at the St. Louis Linux Users Group (STLLINUX) meetings. * We want to have alternative (secondary) topic on hand if primary speaker doesn't show. * Gary will continue to explore different computer manufacturers (ex: Cray) who might be able to do presentation "Where are they now?" ===== January 2024 ===== January 2024 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 ==== HOLIDAY - New Year Day ~ Jan 1st, 2024 ==== ==== STEERCOM - Jan 3, 2024 ==== // SUMMARY: // * Usually the Monday, a week prior to SLUUG General meeting. * 2023-12-04 Comments: * **When should we do January STEERCOM meeting because of MONDAY New Year Day Holiday?** * Tuesday, 2nd of January, was orginal choice. * Wednesday, 3rd of January. * 2024-01-03 Comments: * This meeting. Glad that Sean and Gary could attend. ==== SLACC - Jan 4th, 2024 ==== // SUMMARY: // ==== SLUUG - Jan 10th, 2024 ==== // SUMMARY: // * [[http://www.sluug.org/|SLUUG General Meeting]] * [[http://www.sluug.org/steercom/planning.pdf|Planning Schedule Report ]] * Second Wednesday of the month. * BASE (Personal Computing): * STATUS: **Confirmed** * WHAT: **History of the Shell** * BY: Ed Howland * SYNOPSIS: NA * WRANGLER: Stan * ABSTRACT: NA * BIO: NA * REMARKS: * We did not have an alternative ( secondary ) topic on hand. * August SLUUG BASE was **VIM Side by Side** by Stan Reichrdt * September SLUUG BASE was **How to get started in emacs** by Steve Stegmann * October SLUUG BASE was **Pi-Hole** by James Conroy * November SLUUG BASE was **script recording** by Stan Reichardt * December SLUUG BASE was **Asciinema** by Sean Twiehaus * 2023-06-26 Comments for July: None * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Future idea: **Changes in Web Applications** by Dave Forrest * 2023-10-02 Comments: Will be doing on RaspberPi 4, can do with older. Doesn't need anything newer. * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Stan has a number of slides ready. Will cover unfinished features in demo. * 2023-12-04 Comments: * Stan R will be out of town during the SLUUG meeting on 13 December 2023. * Not sure if he will be able to attend remotely, and may not be able to record with SimpleScreenRecorder to track attendance. * 2024-01-03 Comments: * :?: ---- ** COOKIE TIME ~ ANNOUNCEMENTS ~ CALL FOR HELP (Gooey Middle): ** ---- * [[http://www.sluug.org/|SLUUG General Meeting]] * [[http://www.sluug.org/steercom/planning.pdf|Planning Schedule Report ]] * Second Wednesday of the month. * MAIN (Professional Computing): * STATUS: **Confirmed** * WHAT: **Systemd Timers Better than Cron** * BY: Sean Twiehaus * SYNOPSIS: NA * WRANGLER: NA * ABSTRACT: NA * BIO: NA * REMARKS: * We did not have an alternative ( secondary ) topic on hand. * September SLUUG MAIN was **Microsoft's Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2)** by Jon Newbolt * October SLUUG MAIN was **Risc-V Architecture** by Carl Perry * November SLUUG MAIN was **Microsoft Windows Subsystem for Android** by Jon Newbold, Microsoft * December SLUUG MAIN was **Python's Pandas Data Frames** by Robert Citek * 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Nothing yet. Johnathan Drews trying to line something up about a game developer. * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None * 2023-10-02 Comments: None. * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Jon Newbold had to reschedule to 8 November due to work travel requirement. **A Great Disturbance in the Force**. * 2023-12-04 Comments: * Stan R will be out of town during the SLUUG meeting on 13 December 2023. * Not sure if he will be able to attend remotely, and may not be able to record with SimpleScreenRecorder to track attendance. * Steve Stegmann will also try recording. * 2024-01-03 Comments: * Might be short; but, not a problem. Because systemd is very large and has lots of topics, we will look to future talks. ==== STLLINUX - Jan 17th, 2023 ==== // SUMMARY: // * [[https://stllug.sluug.org/|STLLINUX]] is the St. Louis Linux Users Group. * [[http://www.sluug.org/steercom/planning.pdf|Planning Schedule Report ]] * Eight days after SLUUG MAIN General Meeting. * LINUX * STATUS: **Confirmed** * WHAT: **Introduction to Hadoop** * BY: Steven Lembark * SYNOPSIS: Tool for dealing with large amounts of data. * WRANGLER: Gary * ABSTRACT: NA * BIO: YES * REMARKS: * We did not have an alternative (secondary) topic on hand. * September STLLINUX was **Podman Desktop** by Chris Bowland of RedHat * October STLLINUX was **A Mix of Tech Topics** by Ken Johnson * November STLLINUX was **Transport Layer Security ( TLS ) ** by Michael Lucas * December STLLINUX was **ZFS 3-2-1 Backup and Bitrot** by Sean Twiehaus * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Not yet confirmed; but, considering (1) CentOS Stream (2) Redhat Podman (management for Docker). * 2023-10-02 Comments: Better NOT to have a speaker back-to-back, one meeting immediately right after another. * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Gary expects to dun Michael Lucas for abstract and bio very soon now.. * 2023-12-04 Comments: None * 2024-01-03 Comments: * :?: ==== NEWLINUX - Jan 23rd, 2023 ==== // SUMMARY: Previously named Hazelwood LUG (HZWLUG), then Newcomer LUG (NEWLUG). Now, Newcomer Linux User Group is designated as NEWLINUX. The NEWLINUX home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which we could start. Usually no presentation; so, held as a **Beginner Workshop** offering installation and configuration help. Topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover way more than one topic. // * [[http://newlug.sluug.org |NEWLUG]] was how we named our Linux Users Group (LUG) for Linux Newcomers. * [[http://newlinux.org |NEWLINUX]] is name that we can frequently use for our Newcomer Linux Users Group. * Fourth Tuesday of the month. * Free format, no presentation. Always up to attendance as to what is covered. * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None * 2023-10-02 Comments: None. * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: * Again had some difficulty and delay opening up public JITSI session. Also there were frequent drop outs during meeting. * Made a bookends slide-work for this Beginner Workshop meeting. Bookends working somewhat well with Announcements and main topic of Remote Support. * Gary went to private home site to assist a low expertise Linux user. The user was running Linux Mint 19 that was getting End-of-Support notifications. * One new attendee later wrote that he was having some unreproducible problem signing up for ANNOUNCE mailing list. Sent him signup nomination. * Two, and possibly four new attendees ( not sure, because they only would put in first names ). * Because Gary was providing on site assistance, he wasn't keeping watch on chat room activity. * Phil B helped a little bit with chat; but, looking at the recording later, a lot of chat postings seemed to have been missed. * Frequent attendees Wayne S and Tony C were very helpful with lots of input during the meeting. * 2023-12-04 Comments: None * 2024-01-03 Comments: * :?: ===== February 2024 ===== ==== SLACC - Feb 1st, 2024 ==== * [[http://slacc.sluug.org/|SLACC]] * First Thursday of each month. Free format, no presentation. Always up to attendance as what is covered. * Usually no presentation; so, held as a **Configuration Workshop** offering installation and configuration help. * 2024-01-03 Comments: * :?: ==== STEERCOM - Feb 5th, 2024 ==== * Usually the Monday, a week prior to SLUUG General meeting. * 2024-01-03 Comments: * :?: ==== SLUUG - Feb 14th, 2024 ==== * **The required Annual Meeting** * [[http://www.sluug.org/|SLUUG General Meeting]] * [[http://www.sluug.org/steercom/planning.pdf|Planning Schedule Report ]] * Second Wednesday of the month. * BASE (Personal Computing): * STATUS: **Available** * WHAT: **To Be Determined** * BY: Unknown * MAIN (Professional Computing): * STATUS: **Consider** * WHAT: **Large Language Models** * BY: Alex * 2024-01-03 Comments: * :?: ==== STLLINUX - Feb 22nd, 2024 ==== * [[https://stllug.sluug.org/|STLLINUX]] is the St. Louis Linux Users Group. * [[http://www.sluug.org/steercom/planning.pdf|Planning Schedule Report ]] * Eight days after SLUUG MAIN General Meeting. * LINUX * STATUS: **Available** * WHAT: **To Be Determined** * BY: Unknown * 2024-01-03 Comments: * :?: ==== NEWLINUX - Feb 27th, 2024 ==== // SUMMARY: Previously named Hazelwood LUG (HZWLUG), then Newcomer LUG (NEWLUG). Now, Newcomer Linux User Group is designated as NEWLINUX. The NEWLINUX home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which we could start. Usually no presentation; so, held as a **Beginner Workshop** offering installation and configuration help. Topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover way more than one topic. // * [[http://newlug.sluug.org |NEWLUG]] was how we named our Linux Users Group (LUG) for Linux Newcomers. * [[http://newlinux.org |NEWLINUX]] is name that we can frequently use for our Newcomer Linux Users Group. * Fourth Tuesday of the month. * Free format, no presentation. Always up to attendance as to what is covered. * 2024-01-03 Comments: * :?: ====== Old Business ====== ===== Server Admin ===== //SUMMARY: We put up a server on the Internet for email, it grew, and now we have to maintain it.// * * **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.** * * 2023-01-09 Comments: DNS zone transfers broken right now. Investigating. Everything else working fine. * 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Running fine. No rush to go to Debian 11. * 2023-02-27 Comments for March:: * Removed comments prior to January 2023. * Running fine. BOCK is a virtual machine. Host will be updated some time in March. * 2023-04-03 Comments: * Running. Kernel update brought down for just 5 to 10 minutes. No complaints. * Mike Knight found 4.4 Gb of data that Stan R had temporarily hosted for BUGLug. * 2023-05-01 Comments: Still running. Expect to upgrade from Debian 10 to 11 sometime this year. * 2023-06-05 Comments: Seems to be working ( many thanks to maintenance script written by Mike Knight ). * 2023-06-26 Comments for July: = | Version ^ Released ^ Debian Security Support ^ Debian Long Term Support ^ ^ Debian 10 Buster | 2019-07-16 | 2022-09-10 | 2024-06-30 ^ ^ Debian 11 Bullseye | 2021-08-14 | 2024-07-01 | 2026-06-30 ^ ^ Debian 12 BookWorm | 2023-06-10 | 2026-06-10 | 2028-06-10 ^ ^ ^ ^ On BOCK we are currently running Debian 10 Buster. | ^ ^ FYI Debian 12 was just released.| ^ ^ Debian end of life dates available here [[https://endoflife.date/debian/]] | ^ ^ We want to wait until cooler weather, in the Fall. Nobody is paying us to panic.| ^ = * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: We need to post to DISCUSS about a project to upgrade BOCK. * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Biggest concern on BOCK upgrade is around MAILMAN. * 2023-10-02 Comments: Planning to move from Debian 10 to Debian 11. Emcee should ask for volunteers. * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: * Mike Knight has been doing considerable research on mail problems. * We still need to consider mailman versions available for Debian 11 or 12. * We need to improve publicity for volunteer for transition to Debian. * Gary suggests not doing December (too encumbered) to do transition, maybe January or February. * Need to decide whether to do live upgrade session during MAIN or STLLINUX meeting. * 2023-12-04 Comments: * Lee has tweeked Postfix problems. * Mike Knight solves some email problems, set up DEMARK and some paramaters that help with the mailing lists.. * 2024-01-03 Comments: * Planning in progress, Wiki page is up for contributions of thoughts and issues. ===== Web Site SLUUG.ORG Maintenance ===== // SUMMARY: We have a traditional Internet presence with the existence of our main [[http://www.sluug.org/|SLUUG web site]]. // * * **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.** * * 2023-01-09 Comments: Mike Knight posted about broken and missing links. That prompted Stan R to make some corrections ( not all yet ). * 2023-01-30 Comments for February: * Some discussion about making STLLINUX site more resemble SLUUG front page. * Consensus that it would be good idea and should clean up some Google Lighthouse complaints. * 2023-02-27 Comments for March:: * Mike Knight posted remarking that we frequently state in many places **NO PHYSICAL MEETINGS until further notice.** * His question is "Should they just state **NO PHYSICAL MEETINGS**. * Or is there a plan for future real face-to-face meetings, and thus the hope for a "further notice"? * Per Stan R there are no plans for future face-to-face SLACC and NEWLINUX meetings. * Per Lee Nic-N-Elana's restaurant going strong ( old site ). * We will leave narrative, so there is some hope. * 2023-04-03 Comments: Stan R. way behind in website updates. * 2023-05-01 Comments: Stan R. starting to catch up ( somewhat ). Barely keeping up. Little reorganization as hoped. * 2023-06-05 Comments: Mostly simple barely keeping up. No progress on keeping things logical or stream lined. * 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Stan R still maintaining and not drowning. Treading water. * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: Nothing important. * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Steady as we go. * 2023-10-02 Comments: Usual. Not enough time to clean up much. * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: * Stan R combined meeting listing from STLLINUX home page with Presentation Archives page. Used available info, clean up still needed. * Stan R then placed Presentation Archive iframe page on all three sponsored home pages, the SLACC, STLLINUX and NEWLINUX home pages. * 2023-12-04 Comments: * Added Presentation Archive iframe page to the Steercom web page. * 2024-01-03 Comments: * None, keeping up. ===== Uploading Presentations ===== // SUMMARY: We have recorded many of our past meetings and made some of them available on the Internet.// * * **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.** * 2023-01-09 Comments: * 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Kind of keeping up with that. Need to delete a few excess Steercom videos. * 2023-02-27 Comments for March: No problems. * 2023-04-03 Comments: Keeping up ( I think ~ Stan R ). * 2023-05-01 Comments: Keeping up. Might have some old ones that haven't been uploaded and linked before. Slow but steady. * 2023-06-05 Comments: Keeping up, and been marking more for removal. * 2023-06-26 Comments for July: * Mostly unaltered videos are uploaded ( nothing done to reduce quality or size ). * QUESTION: Do we have any measurement of how many of uploaded videos are being viewed? * We won't worry about it, if isn't burden on Lee's operation. * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: * Keeping pace. * Stan R had problem downloading files from ZOOM. Lee did download, then Stan was able to finish processing. * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None * 2023-10-02 Comments: Good, no problems. * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: * When we get them recorded, they get updated. Been purging more ZOOM recording to conserve allotted space. * 2023-12-04 Comments: Keeping up. * 2024-01-03 Comments: * Keeping up with current recordings. Not time for dealing with back-log of old recordings. ===== Web Site MEETUP.COM Maintenance ===== //SUMMARY: We have presence on [[https://www.meetup.com/Saint-Louis-Unix-Users-Group/|MEETUP.COM]]. // * * **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.** * * 2023-01-09 Comments: Stan can't hear or see anyone moving now. * 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Barely worth the effort. * 2023-02-27 Comments for March: Per Gary and Stan R it sucks ( more and in many different ways, month to month ). * 2023-04-03 Comments: Gary had been locked out by MEETUP for 5 hours. * 2023-05-01 Comments: It sucks, is pain in posterior. * 2023-06-05 Comments: It sucks, it sucks, it sucks. Something new messes up every month. Somewhat draws in attendees; but, nothing big. * 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Meetup sucks. * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: Last cycle Gary was bushwhacked, input grabbed screwy characters. * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: * We kept getting messages from folks that are too impatient to read individual meeting instructions that tell them to check our web sites. * Apparently the front most SLUUG MEETUP **about** page lacked the additional **linked here** information we have for individual meetings. * Stan R added the **linked here** information to bottom of the SLUUG MEETUP **about** page. * It was very hard to find where we could update that front page ( no surprise ). * We were getting posting photos to our MEETUP meetings that show mushrooms and mention illegal drugs ( like Meth ). * Ken Johnson changed settings so that regular visitors could not post photos. * 2023-10-02 Comments: We are at 995, now approaching 1000 membership. Wonder what will happen. Hard to know from their poor description. * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: * Need to characterize SLACC as a Configuration Workshop, and the NEWLINUX as a Beginner Workshop. * Lee suggest it has been providing some significant visibility on the Internet. * 2023-12-04 Comments: Sorta helpful. * 2024-01-03 Comments: * Meetup sucks, removing mistakes send out confusing CANCELLATION message. ===== Our Internet Presence on Other Social Media ===== // SUMMARY: We presume that our single web site isn't enough to draw younger crowd. // * * **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.** * * 2023-01-09 Comments: * Does **NOT** look like anyone has updated our [[https://twitter.com/SLUUG_Org| twitter]] feed since November. * **QUESTION:** Who is supposed to be updating it? * 2023-01-30 Comments for February: * What is best lead time to tweet about meeting? Consensus is **before**. Really, nobody here wants to do work. * 2023-02-27 Comments for March:: * Scott Granneman's offer about Mastadon in the FedAUniver means some of us might sign up. * Per Stan R we need demonstrations of different social tools. * 2023-04-03 Comments: * Gary M will approach Granneman about Mastadon. * 2023-05-01 Comments: * A significant number of TWITTER users have moved over to the social media technology ( beta ) of the * week, [[https://staging.bsky.com | BlueSky]]. * Stan R watched and recommends Sunday's netcast of **This Week in Tech** * panel [[https://twit.tv/shows/this-week-in-tech/episodes/925?autostart=false | discussion]] on Twit TV about current social media. * Still same issues for us. * 2023-06-05 Comments: Unfortunately, our prejudices preclude advancing or progressing in this territory. * 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Maybe we [ could ] get some presentation from Scott Granneman. * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Our only interest is for advertising our meetings. * 2023-10-02 Comments: Johnathan suggested Mastadon over MEETUP. Need effort. Need clones. * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: * Nothing that we care to do, although Stan thinks Mastadon is best of bad possibilities. * Neither of those of us here care for social media. We need to find somebody younger. * 2023-12-04 Comments: * Too many different social media things and we are dinosaurs. * We we need somebody to advertise us on social media. * 2024-01-03 Comments: * No feedback from James Conroy or Sean Twiehaus about any social media. ===== ANNOUNCE Mailing List ===== // SUMMARY: As a historical descendant of our monthly newsletter, the ANNOUNCE mailing had been a weekly extract of our SLUUG GOOGLE Calendar of Events. Previous editors had also styled it less of 1 liners of the entire calendar and more of abstracts of OUR talks & outstanding interest items.// * **HISTORY:** The subscriber list has been populated from attendance sheets by a nominating subscription process, which requires human input. * * **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.** * 2023-01-09 Comments: * 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Problems really relate to advance scheduling. * 2023-02-27 Comments for March:: None * 2023-04-03 Comments: None * 2023-05-01 Comments: It works. * 2023-06-05 Comments: No changes. * 2023-06-26 Comments for July: No changes on list. Topic for STLLINUX was determined too late to make use of it as announcement. * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: It works. * 2023-10-02 Comments: Robert Levitt has been posting items to list. * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: * Stan suggest we use it to promote BOCK upgrade of Debian with propaganda. * 2023-12-04 Comments: None * 2024-01-03 Comments: * None. ===== Hybrid Meetings ===== // SUMMARY: Combine recording physical plus remote meetings // * HISTORY: * We have for the longest time been saying: * **No physical face-to-face meetings until further notice.** * When we again have physical meetings, we would like to continue video meetings in conjunction with any physical meetings. * So, in anticipation of future openings of libraries and restaurants, * reduction of lock-down, we need to work toward perfecting the technology. * 2021-07-05 * Project considerations * Locations * Schedule ~ Timeline * Assets * Staffing * Project Leader ~ Lee Lammert (at least Point Of Contact) * Project Wrangler ~ Steve Stegmann (if he will remember) * Recording Hardware ~ Lee Lammert * Recording Software ~ Tyler Rudie (had been experimenting with OBS during July STLLINUX meeting) * Remote Virtual Software ~ ZOOM or Jitsi (maybe better) ? * Head Count (local clipboard and remote software participant panel to capture attendance). * Production Chief(s) ~ * does recording and archives. * one for remote and one for live location * Minions * Equipment ~ inventory ~ splitter ~ projectors ~ microphones ~ cameras ~ smartphone cameras ~ portability * avoid condenser microphones ~ want dynamic microphones (which may be more expensive) * Servers ~ ZOOM ~ Jitsi * Software ~ OBS ~ Discord? ~ * Capabilities ~ Remote Video ~ Chat ~ Recording ~ Screen Sharing ~ YouTube Streaming? * Documentation ~ Diagrams ~ Limitations * Testing ~ Bat Cave? ~ Restaurant? * Discussion: * Gary M virtual remote experience at 2600 club was not good. They did not have splitter for hybrid session. * Lee figures harder, quite difficult, do we want to really do it. How do we do recordings? * Stan R says local noise too much at restaurants. * Head counts need to be considered. Gary once shared ZOOM participant panel. We need to promote sharing participant panel(s) for count heads. * Stan R has less problem using Jitsi. * Stan R thought Jitsi does not have built in recording (may not be true). * Stan R uses Linux SimpleScreenRecorder (SSR) to record all remote sessions. Specifically activates participant panel while recording sessions with SSR. * We must consider when will libraries open up. Also, Siemens, Nick and Elena's restaurant. * Gary suggests we move this topic earlier in agenda. We don't expect to make much progress right away; but, need to keep in mind. * * **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes ( after 2021-07-05 ) prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.** * 2023-01-09 Comments: * 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Hybrid meetings, nothing comes to mind. * 2023-02-27 Comments for March: James Conroy says doing too hard. * 2023-04-03 Comments: Free Beer and Pizza would be a large draw. We need to consider further. * 2023-05-01 Comments: Our policy should be to encourage anyone else that wants to do all the work. * 2023-06-05 Comments: Moving on. * 2023-06-26 Comments for July: * We would need to consider counting both remote attendance and face-to-face attendance. Should we care, who would do it and how would we track it. * No disagreement. Lot easier for Dave Forrest to be at face-to-face meetings. * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Nothing to say. * 2023-10-02 Comments: No thoughts. * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Any combined numbers could just be combined. * 2023-12-04 Comments: None * 2024-01-03 Comments: * None. ===== Cameras and Microphones and Projectors ===== // SUMMARY: We try to record many of our meetings.// * * **The narrative comments in this section prior to July 2023 Steercom have been removed.** * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: SUGGESTION: Don't use condenser microphones. Only use Dynamic microphones. * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Nothing to say. * 2023-10-02 Comments: Lee has one camera, Don has at least one microphone, stan has projector. * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: No changes. * 2023-12-04 Comments: * Note that We have not made any progress toward moving to hybrid meetings. * Also, we have NOT agressively advertised seeking assistance in developing hybrid meeting techniques. * Have we essentially abandoned face-to-face meetings? * Should we consider donating or selling these assets? * 2024-01-03 Comments: * No actions or decisions made on previous month comments. * Since nobody is volunteering to do work, we won't make any progress. * Will come back eventually; just, we don't know when. ===== Attendance Database ===== // SUMMARY: We use for head count tracking and for member voting qualification during each Calendar Year (CY)// * HISTORY: * Attendance tracking necessary for member qualifications to vote in our annual elections. * At face-to-face meetings we would pass around clipboard with sign-in sheet. * The standard remote video recordings do not automatically show participants. * Stan R runs a second connection to each video meeting named **Anonymous Coward** to record attendance. * * **LibreOffice BASE Attendance database file is available for download from https://www.sluug.org/steercom/ page.** * * **The narrative comments in this section prior to July 2023 Steercom have been removed.** * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: * Counts are good. * Attendance database is available from https://www.sluug.org/steercom webpage. * Planning database is available from https://www.sluug.org/steercom webpage. * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Works good. * 2023-10-02 Comments: Stan updates immediately after each meeting. Often necessary to record with SimpleScreenRecorder. * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Good stuff. * 2023-12-04 Comments: None * 2024-01-03 Comments: * Keeping up the counts. Lee said very worthwhile. * Stan R suggests we do away with elections and just do a lottery for positions. ===== Planning Schedule Report Database ===== // SUMMARY: We have LibreOffice BASE for tracking BASE, MAIN and STLLINUX meeting topics and speakers. // * HISTORY: * A running database helps Gary schedule meetings. * * **LibreOffice BASE Planning database is available from https://www.sluug.org/steercom webpage.** * * Go to https://www.sluug.org/steercom/ has link to planning.pdf * or directly to report at [[http://www.sluug.org/planning.pdf|Planning Schedule Report ]] * * **The narrative comments in this section prior to July 2023 Steercom have been removed.** * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: * Attendance database is available from https://www.sluug.org/steercom webpage. * Planning database is available from https://www.sluug.org/steercom webpage. * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: * Stan R changed the 2023-07-12 entry for Steve Stegmann's **TMUX - A Longer Introduction** from listing as **Base** to **Main**. * Stan R altered length of Phone field in Planning database and it's report to allow room for telephone extentions. * 2023-10-02 Comments: Help Gary stay focused. Gives Stan something to beat him about head and sholders. * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Becoming Gary's go to tool. Even used it during tonight's session. * 2023-12-04 Comments: None. * 2024-01-03 Comments: * Lee was amazed about how many presentation he had done. ===== Handouts ===== // SUMMARY: We have informational handout PDFs available [[http://www.sluug.org/resources/handouts/]]. // * HISTORY: *The PDFs are generated using LibreOffice. The originating files are stored along with generated PDFs. * Lee ordered printer parts that should correct crinkle problem. * Stan R has been modifying a Linux Presentation Day from 2015 found on the Internet. It has excellent content. * Difficult to modify, as it is extremely graphically intense. Built and modified with the Scribus application. * Likely too complex to print, may wind up splitting content to make a slide show presentation. * * **The narrative comments in this section prior to July 2023 Steercom have been removed.** * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: Nothing new. * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Stan cannot manufacture extra time. * 2023-10-02 Comments: Stan cannot manufacture extra time. * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Stan needs a time machine or a clone to do updates. * 2023-12-04 Comments: None. * 2024-01-03 Comments: * None. ===== Linux Stickers ===== // SUMMARY: Ken Johnson really prefers stickers, rather than stuffed toys! // * **HISTORY:** SWAG is good! * Lee has sheet to pass on to Ken. * James Conroy will make background black so we can get what we want when ordered. * * **The narrative comments in this section prior to July 2023 Steercom have been removed.** * 2023-06-26 Comments for July: James C. not here to make remark. * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: James C. too busy buying house and travel to India. * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: James C. will check his todo list. * 2023-10-02 Comments: No updates. * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: James C. is not not here to kick around. * 2023-12-04 Comments: None. * 2024-01-03 Comments: * Stan R notes this project doesn't get much support, we aren't meeting live to give stickers out and we aren't selling them. * Stan R suggests we remove this section next month. * Confirmed to be removed next month. ===== Organizational Papers ===== // SUMMARY: We have large box of hard copy historical records concerning our organization. It has been floating around. // * **HISTORY:** 2020-10-05 Gary found cardboard box with old secretary material. Original Xeroxes of articles of corporation, etc. Historical interest. No idea who dropped it off. * * **The narrative comments in this section prior to July 2023 Steercom have been removed.** * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: Gary has only heard rumors of their existence. * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: * Completely disorganized. Box still there. * 2023-10-02 Comments: Gary believes box is still there ( not verified ). * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Gary not sure if still there. * 2023-12-04 Comments: None. * 2024-01-03 Comments: * No racoon has carried the box away. ===== Sponsorships ===== // SUMMARY: We seek financial support from the tech community. // * **HISTORY:** We are not good at getting sponsors. * * **The narrative comments in this section prior to July 2023 Steercom have been removed.** * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: Thank You Dave! * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Nothing new. * 2023-10-02 Comments: We are not good at self promotion. * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Omnitec is still quite generous. * 2023-12-04 Comments: None. * 2024-01-03 Comments: * We appreciate donations ( two years ) by Steve Gomez. * Concencus is to show it with beer or meal. Approved. Gary volunteered. ===== We Need Help ===== // SUMMARY: We don't have enough volunteers to do everything consistently.// * **HISTORY:** We need new members who want to do stuff. Same as every month. * * **QUESTION:** Any new volunteers to help? * * Tyler Rudie had volunteered to help with SLUUG Google calendar input. * Gary, Stan, & Tyler need to get together to review Tyler getting to work on Google Calendar modifications? * Tyler Rudie has been granted permissions to help with SLUUG Google calendar input. Not yet given guidance or instructions. * Gary needs to prompt him. * * **The narrative comments in this section prior to July 2023 Steercom have been removed.** * 2023-06-26 Comments for July: * Stanford Baldwin avoided conversation * Robert Levitt willing and Gary will encourage him to post spontaneously. * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: Gary needs to talk to Robert Levitt and Tyler Ruddie. * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Gary needs to start picking on somebody else. * 2023-10-02 Comments: Gary suggests approaching individuals one-on-one, face-to-face if meeting them. * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Not enough grey hairs out there to do us any good. * 2023-12-04 Comments: Robert Levitt willing; but, needs to do it better. * 2024-01-03 Comments: * We need to seek more individual help by one-on-one requests. Ask crowd gets no response. ===== New Business ===== // SUMMARY: After old business, we call for anything that we need to deal with.// * * **QUESTION:** Do we have anything else, anything new that we need to deal with? * * **The narrative comments in this section prior to July 2023 Steercom have been removed.** * 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Home Automation group may be a source of presentations for us, if they keep ZOOM efforts going (per Gary). * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None * 2023-10-02 Comments: * Recognition of Phil Bunch participation and contributions. * How often mention will be determined later. * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: None * 2023-12-04 Comments: None * 2024-01-03 Comments: * None. ===== Bock Upgrade ===== * 2024-01-03 Comments: * Mike Knight has been looking at Mail * Lee recommends collecting ideas to build steps. * A to-do list ( structure ). * A what-we-did list ( a Wiki manager ). * Lee suggests two people, * one to build Wiki Page documentation. * second is recording as we go along * Spin up of testing version in a Virtua Machine. * Sean Twiehaus will give shot at building Wiki instance. ====== Recurring Requirements ====== // SUMMARY: We routinely rotate thru the following (just in case).// * HISTORY: * In past, we had missed critical government filings, dropped ball on domain renewals, and similar important items. * * December 2023 - Ticket ( ballot ) nominations should be solicited. * * January 2024 ~ Post Office Box Renewal ( automatic 6 months on credit card ) ~ Lee handles. * January 2024 ~ Bribes early to Stan R so your name won't be on ballot. * * February 2024 - SLUUG Annual Board meeting and elections. * February 2024 - STLLINUX.ORG domain automatic renewal. * * March 2024 - Count Ballots * March 2024 - Updates to contacts on webpage if required. * March 2024 - Updates to email aliases if required. * March 2024 - Consider schedule workshops for July and August 2021 * * April 2024 - IRS Form 990-N for Tax Exempt Status. e-postcard. filed March 2023. * * May 2024 - LetsEncrypt renews every 60 days early ( 30 day grace period ). * * June 2024 - BuddyNS SLUUG account due (Automated) * WAS RENEWED. * June 2024 - Missouri Annual Report for Corporate Legal Status due. DUE 2024 ( every two years now ) * https://bsd.sos.mo.gov/BusinessEntity/BusinessEntityDetail.aspx?page=beSearch&ID=681250 * June 2024 - *automated* LetsEncrypt free SSL certificates for websites on BOCK. * * July 2024 - SLUUG.ORG account due (Automated) done in June. * July 2024 ~ Post Office Box Renewal (automatic 6 months on credit card) ~ Lee handles on SLUUG card. * * August 2024 - Missouri Tax Holiday ( on our calendar ) * August 2024 - NEWLINUX.ORG domain renewal. Stan R. * August 2024 - SLACC.ORG domain renewal. Stan R. * * September 2024 * * October 2024 * * November 2024 - Search for upcoming Technical Group Xmas parties to put on our calendar. * * **The narrative comments in this section prior to July 2023 Steercom have been removed.** * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None * 2023-10-02 Comments: None * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Gary suggested looking in November for Technical Group Xmas parties to put on our calendar. * 2023-12-04 Comments: None * 2024-01-03 Comments: * :?: ====== Recognize Useful Efforts ====== // SUMMARY: When anybody does something to help! // * **QUESTION:** Did anyone do anything helpful or useful? * * 2023-12-04 Comments: * Phil Bunch all time contributions. * 2024-01-03 Comments: * Phil Bunch handled the NEWLINUX meeting. ====== Follow-up and Action Items ====== // SUMMARY: It may help a little to tag individuals with tasks: // * ISSUES: * :?: * Everyone - Review the STEERCOM minutes, make corrections, act! * Everyone - **Talk to someone about coming to meetings.** * Everyone - Talk to someone about giving a presentation. * Everyone - Stan R wants LibreOffice Planning database tested on multiple systems. * * Don Ellis ~ Test Stan's Planning database on LibreOffice on Mac. * Don Ellis ~ Upon return to town, clean tomato sauce off the Snowball microphone (there was minor accident at STLLINUX). * Don Ellis ~ **was to** upload older videos to Google Photos and/or Google Docs & publish links. * Don Ellis ~ Possible presentation - 2018-07-18 he had suggested Apple interfaces and accessories for audio & video. * Don Ellis ~ Possible presentation on new ChromeBook Linux interface. July 2020 * Don Ellis ~ **will/was to** place credentials for YouTube and any others on Bock /home/sluug * * Gary Meyer ~ Hassle Mike about Google throttling. * Gary Meyer ~ Contact Steve Pidgeon for progress report. * Gary Meyer - Build spreadsheet to track domain name registrations. See http://bgp.he.net/ip/207.223.253.71#_dns * Gary Meyer - Did not follow up with Noel about transferring the SLACC.COM domain to us. * SLACC.COM is now held by someone else (squatter). * SLACC.ORG could be registered. **SLACC.COM** available for sale ~ only $499. * Consider other TLDs than .com and .org for SLACC * 2023-05-01 Comments: * SLACC.COM has been offered for sale to us for $100 ( down from $499 ). * SLACC.ORG registered by Stan R more than a year ago. * NEWLINUX.ORG registered by Stan R more than a year ago. * Stan R. ~ Remind Gary Meyer to bring SWAG, Penguins or stickers to meetings and hand out pamphlets. * Stan and Gary should get together and discuss how ANNOUNCE maintance is done. * * **The narrative comments in this section prior to July 2023 Steercom have been removed.** * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Gary is neglecting this sections. * 2023-10-02 Comments: None. * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Stan suggests trashing this section, and Gary agrees. Will give it another month or two. * 2023-12-04 Comments: None * 2024-01-03 Comments: * Gary wants to clean it up instead of trashing it. ====== Blue Sky Recording ====== * **QUESTION:** Will we have Blue Sky Idea session to record or not record? * * 2024-01-03 Comments: * None. ====== Adjourn STEERCOM Meeting ====== * **QUESTION:** At what time was STEERCOM meeting adjourned? * * 2024-01-03 Comments: * Wednesday, January 3rd, 2024 * TIME: 8:33pm ====== Stop Video Recordings ====== * 2023-12-04 Comments: * TIME: 8:33pm ====== Blue Sky Ideas ====== // SUMMARY: Food for thought ~ anything not previously covered that provides mental stimulus for thinking about improvements or solutions. // * HISTORY: Stimulate creativity by planting the seed of an idea. * Current action or response not required. * Some ideas are Off-The-Record ~ NOT TO BE RECORDED! * Some ideas should be publicized.~ SHOULD BE RECORDED! * If a speaker believes something should not be recorded, the recording operator needs to be notified. * ** Each speaker would initially declare whether an idea should be recorded or not. ** * * **The narrative comments in this section prior to July 2023 Steercom have been removed.** * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None * 2023-10-02 Comments: None * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: None * 2023-12-04 Comments: * TIME: :?: ====== End of File ====== ===== EVERYTHING BELOW IS TO BE REMOVED =====