====== SLUUG Steering Committee ======
====== 3 June 2024 ======
NOTE: Minutes posted on the Wiki are always unofficial.
Schedules for upcoming presentations are always tentative.
(Some more tentative than others!)
====== Location ======
* **No physical meeting until further notice **
* When we again have physical meetings, we would like to continue video meetings in conjunction with physical meetings.
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* None
====== Agenda Changes ======
// SUMMARY: This is where we consider any additions, changes, deletions, sequence changes, or other changes to items in the prepared agenda. //
* HISTORY:
* We can consider changes prior to all reviews, planning and OLD BUSINESS items.
* By jumping ahead, then back, without altering agenda layout sequence.
* Do NOT alter agenda layout sequence, during current meeting.
* Moving a listed item out of sequence makes later editing difficult.
*
* We can jump to **Old Business** items, consider, then back to usual sequence.
* We can jump to **New Business** section, create new item, consider, then jump back to usual sequence.
* By NOT altering agenda layout sequence during the meeting, that will keep it easier to build the next agenda.
* AGENDA CHANGE:
* **QUESTION:** Are there any additions, deletions, or other changes to sequence of items in the prepared agenda?
* 2024-02-05 Comments:
* Last month the decision was to jump to business for Sean Twiehaus so that he could leave early.
* However; Stan R went right on into doing normal routine reports and nobody stopped him.
* We could have done it better, allowing Sean to leave much earlier. Sorry.
* 2024-03-04 Comments:
* Count Ballots before the rest of the meeting.
* Yes.
* 2024-04-01 Comments:
* Sean T will not be able to stay for whole meeting.
* Yes, we will jump ahead, so that he can demonstrate topic he has been working on.
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: None
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* None
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====== Start Video Recording ======
* **QUESTION:** Have the recorders been started ( they should be, before call to order )?
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* TIME: 7:05pm
====== Start STEERCOM Meeting ======
* **QUESTION:** When was STEERCOM meeting called to order?
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* Monday, June 3rd, 2024
* TIME: 7:08pm
====== Attendees ======
Listed alphabetically by last name :5
* James Conroy
:?: * Jonathan Drews
:?: * David Forrest
:?: * Ed Howland
:?: * Ken Johnson ( joined but left on sick call )
:?: * Lee Lammert
* Gary Meyer
* Stan Reichardt
:?: * Steve Stegmann
:?: * Sean Twiehaus
====== Secretary Report ======
// SUMMARY: Somebody has to build the agenda and then record the minutes. //
*
* **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2024 Steercom have been removed.**
* 2024-01-03 Comments:
* Stan R would like Sean T to act as recording Secretary ( if present and he still would ).
* Sean offered in future, as requested.
* 2024-02-05 Comments: Stan will Do tonight.
* 2024-03-04 Comments: Stan will do tonight.
* 2024-04-01 Comments:
* Stan out of town, has Internet access; but, uncertain whether will be able to attend and do minutes.
* Ken Johnson is recording secretary tonight.
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024:
* Stan acting as recording Secretary ( Ken not here yet ).
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* Stan acting as recording Secretary ( Ken had to leave ).
====== Treasurer Report ======
// SUMMARY: Lee Lammert has been posting balances from bank statements. //
^ Balance as of 1 May | | |$2,842.02 |
^ Buddy NS | | -$9.27|
^ Balance as of 31 May | | |2,832.75 |
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* Lee not here, out of town.
* May data added.
====== Calendar Report ======
// SUMMARY: We maintain a calendar of technical events in the Greater St. Louis area and surrounding regions.
//
* HISTORY:
* Not all events are official/sponsored SLUUG events. All sponsored events are shown in red.
* Items have been added and corrected by Stan R, Gary Meyer and Don Ellis.
* Items listed on this calendar were used to feed the ANNOUNCE weekly mailing.
* Events on HIATUS are NOT counted! Historical items are NOT counted!
* Only face-to-face meetings were counted!
* Detailed breakdown showing cancelled, defunct, delayed, missed, moved, and postponed meetings was being done.
* The page has been altered to allow showing separate displays of supported meetings from sponsored meetings.
* Stan R has discontinued doing detailed breakdown of calendar entries believing it is too much effort for too little value.
* [[http://www.sluug.org/resources/calendar|SLUUG Calendar]] is a Google Calendar available on our web site.
* Count of number of events listed, each month, as of end of May 2024:
=
| Year ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | Year ^
^ 2011 | xxx | xxx | 105 | 108 | 103 | 117 | 105 | 105 | 105 | 113 | 103 | 96 ^ 2011 ^
^ 2012 | 110 | 104 | 122 | 123 | 138 | 111 | 99 | 124 | 122 | 133 | 114 | 111 ^ 2012 ^
^ 2013 | 123 | 128 | 136 | 147 | 144 | 146 | 139 | 119 | 145 | 167 | 153 | 140 ^ 2013 ^
^ 2014 | 143 | 159 | 174 | 165 | 188 | 165 | 132 | 136 | 173 | 165 | 141 | 107 ^ 2014 ^
^ 2015 | 171 | 179 | 177 | 183 | 176 | 168 | 162 | 176 | 206 | 294 | 236 | 197 ^ 2015 ^
^ 2016 | 260 | 277 | 314 | 231 | 183 | 191 | 157 | 166 | 222 | 224 | 212 | 157 ^ 2016 ^
^ 2017 | 133 | 141 | 177 | 168 | 137 | 143 | 124 | 158 | 173 | 163 | 168 | 129 ^ 2017 ^
^ 2018 | 165 | 177 | 166 | 179 | 162 | 165 | 147 | 176 | 166 | 184 | 163 | 113 ^ 2018 ^
^ 2019 | 131 | 160 | 173 | 171 | 145 | 155 | 130 | 144 | 157 | 179 | 182 | 127 ^ 2019 ^
^ 2020 | 157 | 172 | 188 | 147 | 152 | 174 | 171 | 154 | 168 | 163 | 184 | 155 ^ 2020 ^
^ 2021 | 175 | 170 | 174 | 171 | 172 | 178 | 188 | 179 | 187 | 176 | 194 | 193 ^ 2021 ^
^ 2022 | 210 | 219 | 244 | 219 | 234 | 228 | 251 | 229 | 264 | 268 | 270 | 238 ^ 2022 ^
^ 2023 | 265 | 288 | 304 | 297 | 300 | 303 | 299 | 300 | 165 | 170 | 367 | 382 ^ 2023 ^
^ 2024 | 383 | 296 | 348 | 315 ^ 343 | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? ^ 2024 ^
* LEGEND:
* Greyed out areas indicate corrections or never previously reported counts.
* xxx - numbers not recorded.
* ??? - Future Numbers.
* Stopped counting general Saint Louis County Library events in May 2016.
* Re-counted April 2016 without library events.
* Count of calendar entries for May is down from previous months. No explanation is given.
* Count of calendar entries for March 2020 misleading because of
* Limited maintenance effort for March 2020 because CORONAVIRUS-19 self-isolation effects.
* Started counting **moved** and **delayed** items in April 2020 as considered being useful.
* Improvements in Google Calendar feature limits to five days processing at at time, takes
* about 10 times as long to perform counting. Much more tedious.
* Five day limitation "improvement" gone, no longer takes so much longer to count.
* ISSUES:
* Originally only local STL face-to-face meetings were counted. Started adding remote meetings.
* **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to December 2023 Steercom have been removed.**
* 2023-12-04 Comments:
* Went back to get counts for September and October.
* We found that Google changed the functions of the calendar display.
* Google Calendar used to have an AGENDA listing feature, now replaced with more limited SCHEDULE feature.
* We do not get same level of detail from SCHEDULE display that we used for scraping events for counting.
* Counts from September onward seemed to be low compared to previous methods.
* There is a way to ask for detail; but, not as of yet sure that it is giving good results.
* Went back to August, only got 112 compared to previous method result of 300.
* Went back to July, only got 108 compared to previous method result of 299.
* Our ongoing cleaning up and removing of listings for defunct events may be reason for the significant change.
* We never kept the files used from previous counting, so we are unable to determine how results have changed.
* The new method counts all day events and events with a specific time, not historical entries.
* So, we are now only counting events, not overall effort made while putting information on the calendar.
* ** Future Event ** Stan R gets run over by a truck.
* 2024-01-03 Comments: Blame Stan R.
* 2024-02-05 Comments:
* Counts seem to include a lot of the actual live events ( many remote ones ).
* Gary starting to purge defunct meetings. Changes have been appreciated.
* Ed H gave us history of O'Reilly's FOO camp and the resulting BAR camp ( thus Foo Bar ).
* 2024-03-04 Comments:
* Gary has not been purging some of the meetings listed. Slow progression is coming.
* 2024-04-01 Comments: None
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: None
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* Per Gary some groups are starting to come back. Often, without much lead time notice.
====== Subscriber Report ======
// SUMMARY: Mailing List Report combined with MEETUP membership count, now called Subscriber Report.//
* HISTORY:
* We counted how many were on each SLUUG mailing list, then started using MEETUP dot COM site.
* These numbers roughly estimate size of our community over time. Both growth and shrinkage.
* Subscriber numbers (approximate) as of end of May 2024:
|
^ Year | | | | | | |2017 | | | | | ^ Year ^
| List ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec |List |
^ MEETUP | 273 | 285 | 291 | 299 | 301 | 302 | 304 | 315 | 319 | 325 | 336 | 340 ^MEETUP |
^ ANNOUNCE | 582 | 580 | 575 | 570 | 569 | 569 | 569 | 568 | 566 | 562 | 562 | 559 ^ANNOUNCE|
^ DISCUSS | 197 | 196 | 193 | 190 | 191 | 192 | 191 | 192 | 191 | 189 | 188 | 189 ^DISCUSS |
^ STEERCOM | 36 | 36 | 35 | 34 | 34 | 34 | 34 | 34 | 33 | 33 | 33 | 33 ^STEERCOM|
^ SYSADMIN | 20 | 20 | 20 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 ^SYSADMIN|
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^ Year | | | | | | |2018 | | | | | ^ Year ^
| List ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | List |
^ MEETUP | 348 | 360 | 367 | 372 | 375 | 377 | 385 | 390 | 393 | 402 | 408 | 416 ^ MEETUP |
^ ANNOUNCE | 556 | 544 | 543 | 543 | 545 | 542 | 535 | 534 | 533 | 531 | 531 | 533 ^ ANNOUNCE|
^ DISCUSS | 188 | 188 | 187 | 187 | 187 | 187 | 187 | 185 | 184 | 184 | 185 | 183 ^ DISCUSS |
^ STEERCOM | 33 | 33 | 33 | 33 | 32 | 32 | 32 | 32 | 32 | 31 | 31 | 31 ^ STEERCOM|
^ SYSADMIN | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 ^ SYSADMIN|
|
^ Year | | | | | | |2019 | | | | | ^ Year ^
| List ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | List |
^ MEETUP | 416 | 423 | 432 | 443 | 452 | 464 | 466 | 473 | 472 | 480 | 488 | 497 ^ MEETUP |
^ ANNOUNCE | 532 | 532 | 532 | 534 | 519 | 516 | 516 | 514 | 513 | 516 | 513 | 510 ^ ANNOUNCE|
^ DISCUSS | 184 | 182 | 181 | 182 | 183 | 183 | 191 | 190 | 191 | 191 | 190 | 190 ^ DISCUSS |
^ STEERCOM | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 30 | 30 | 31 | 32 | 32 ^ STEERCOM|
^ SYSADMIN | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 16 | 16 | 16 | 16 | 16 | 16 ^ SYSADMIN|
|
^ Year | | | | | | |2020 | | | | | ^ Year ^
| List ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | List |
^ MEETUP | 501 | 514 | 516 | 521 | 527 | 535 | 547 | 555 | 564 | 570 | 577 | 590 ^ MEETUP |
^ ANNOUNCE | 504 | 502 | 501 | 501 | 500 | 499 | 497 | 495 | 492 | 491 | 490 | 490 ^ ANNOUNCE|
^ DISCUSS | 188 | 190 | 189 | 191 | 191 | 189 | 189 | 188 | 188 | 189 | 190 | 188 ^ DISCUSS |
^ STEERCOM | 31 | 31 | 31 | 30 | 30 | 30 | 30 | 24 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 23 ^ STEERCOM|
^ SYSADMIN | 16 | 16 | 16 | 16 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 ^ SYSADMIN|
|
^ Year | | | | | | |2021 | | | | | ^ Year ^
| List ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | List |
^ MEETUP | 603 | 613 | 626 | 631 | 640 | 650 | 652 | 658 | 678 | 687 | 698 | 710 ^ MEETUP |
^ ANNOUNCE | 489 | 488 | 482 | 480 | 480 | 479 | 477 | 478 | 479 | 481 | 480 | 477 ^ ANNOUNCE|
^ DISCUSS | 188 | 189 | 188 | 190 | 190 | 189 | 189 | 189 | 190 | 195 | 195 | 195 ^ DISCUSS |
^ STEERCOM | 22 | 22 | 22 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 24 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 24 | 24 ^ STEERCOM|
^ SYSADMIN | 15 | 15 | 14 | 14 | 14 | 14 | 14 | 14 | 14 | 13 | 15 | 15 ^ SYSADMIN|
|
^ Year | | | | | | |2022 | | | | | ^ Year ^
| List ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | List |
^ MEETUP | 718 | 727 | 730 | 751 | 762 | 770 | 787 | 806 | 823 | 830 | 840 | 871 ^ MEETUP |
^ ANNOUNCE | 480 | 475 | 474 | 474 | 473 | 472 | 471 | 469 | 469 | 469 | 470 | 469 ^ ANNOUNCE|
^ DISCUSS | 198 | 198 | 197 | 196 | 197 | 196 | 196 | 197 | 199 | 199 | 199 | 199 ^ DISCUSS |
^ STEERCOM | 24 | 24 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 26 | 25 | 25 | 25 | 25 | 24 | 24 ^ STEERCOM|
^ SYSADMIN | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 16 | 16 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 ^ SYSADMIN|
|
^ Year | | | | | | |2023 | | | | | ^ Year ^
| List ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | List |
^ MEETUP | 886 | 898 | 918 | 927 | 936 | 945 | 960 | 976 | 995 | 922 | 946 | 972 ^ MEETUP |
^ ANNOUNCE | 469 | 470 | 470 | 470 | 470 | 470 | 468 | 468 | xxx | 468 | 468 | 468 ^ ANNOUNCE|
^ DISCUSS | 200 | 202 | 203 | 204 | 203 | 202 | 202 | 202 | xxx | 202 | 202 | 203 ^ DISCUSS |
^ STEERCOM | 24 | 24 | 24 | 24 | 24 | 24 | 24 | 25 | xx | 22 | 22 | 22 ^ STEERCOM|
^ SYSADMIN | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 16 | xx | 16 | 16 | 19 ^ SYSADMIN|
|
^ Year | | | | | | |2024 | | | | | ^ Year ^
| List ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | List |
^ MEETUP | 902 | 930 | 950 | 977 ^ 1004| ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? ^ MEETUP |
^ ANNOUNCE | 470 | 469 | 467 | 466 ^ 465| ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? ^ ANNOUNCE|
^ DISCUSS | 205 | 205 | 205 | 202 ^ 202| ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? ^ DISCUSS |
^ STEERCOM | 23 | 23 | 23 | 23 ^ 23| ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? ^ STEERCOM|
^ SYSADMIN | 19 | 21 | 21 | 21 ^ 21| ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? ^ SYSADMIN|
|
* LEGEND:
* Numbers as of end of each month.
* Blocking of mailing list attachments not completely configured yet.
* This will be much easier to do on BOCK.
* ANNOUNCE mailing list.
* Still no volunteer editor to do a quarterly or monthly newsletter.
* Command used to generate these (as root on Bud):
* /usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_members **list_name** | wc -l (This doesn't seem to work on Bock.)
* Greyed out areas indicate corrections or never previously reported counts.
* xxx - numbers not recorded.
* ??? - Future Numbers.
* ISSUES:
* We do NOT have any account access or control to our presence and videos on Google+ or YouTube.
* We do NOT know how or what to count in Google+ NOR do we know how to metric videos.
* We do NOT know how or what to count in YouTube NOR do we know how to metric videos.
* No way to change meeting dates or set temporary hiatus in Google+
* Don was to investigate Google+ status
* Don was to place credentials for YouTube and any others on Bock /home/sluug
*
* **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2024 Steercom have been removed.**
* 2024-01-03 Comments: Lee pointed out correction to program for doing counts.
* 2024-02-05 Comments: Life is just too exciting. Life is more than just junk mail.
* 2024-03-04 Comments: None
* 2024-04-01 Comments: None
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: None
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* Stan intends to go back in and reduce excess fake bodies.
====== Attendance Report ======
// SUMMARY: Somewhat reflects the community interest in topics. Or, how well we publicised event.
//
* HISTORY:
* Initial mail list subscriptions were prompted by attendance sheets.
* Group leaders are responsible for taking attendance at face-to-face meetings.
* Remote session attendance display with ZOOM does NOT work automatically.
* Remote session attendance done best using extra recording with Linux SimpleScreenRecorder software.
* Blank attendance sheets are [[http://www.sluug.org/resources/attendance/|available here]]
* Attendance numbers, as of end of May 2024:
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^ Year | | | | | | |2017 | | | | | ^ Year ^
| Meeting ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | Meeting ^
^ Steercom | 8 | 6 | 8 | 6 | 7 | 7 | 5 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 6 | 3 ^ Steercom|
^ SLACC | 7 | 12 | 10 | 5 | 7 | (10)| 6 | 7 | 8 | 11 | xx | 6 ^ SLACC |
^ SLUUG | 20 | 17 | 24 | 17 | 10 | 13 | 7 | 13 | 12 | 21 | 14 | 16 ^ SLUUG |
^ STLLINUX | 14 | 15 | 18 | 14 | 15 | 14 | 18 | 16 | 16 | 12 | (27)| xx ^ STLLINUX|
^ NEWLUG | 9 | 10 | xx | 7 | 7 | 8 | 7 | 5 | 8 | 5 | 7 | 9 ^ NEWLUG |
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^ Year | | | | | | |2018 | | | | | ^ Year ^
| Meeting ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | Meeting ^
^ Steercom | 7 | 3 | 6 | 7 | 6 | 6 | 5| 5 | 7 | 5 | 5 | 4 ^ Steercom|
^ SLACC | 6 | 6 | 7 | 9 | 6 | 6 | 7| 6 | 7 | 4 | 4 | 5 ^ SLACC |
^ SLUUG | 14 | 13 | 13 | 18 | 15 | 11 | 8| 15 | 14 | 14 | 10 | 13 ^ SLUUG |
^ STLLINUX | 12 | 8 | 13 | 11 | 13 | 10 | 11| 15 | 13 | xx | 9 | 9 ^ STLLINUX|
^ NEWLUG | 8 | 11 | 8 | 11 | 11 | 9 | 10| 12 | 9 | 7 | 10 | 5 ^ NEWLUG |
|
^ Year | | | | | | |2019 | | | | | ^ Year ^
| Meeting ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | Meeting ^
^ Steercom | 6 | 6 | 6 | 7 | 5 | 8 | 6| 6 | 8 | 8 | 7 | 8 ^ Steercom|
^ SLACC | 6 | 6 | 7 ^ 7 | 8 | 7 | 6| 10 | 10 | 9 | 6 | 9 ^ SLACC |
^ SLUUG | 15 | 14 | 13 | 18 | 12 | 15 | 17| (20)| 18 | 14 | 17 | 25 ^ SLUUG |
^ STLLINUX | 18 | 11 | 11 | 16 | 12 | 16 | 20| 16 | 14 | 18 | 18 | 17 ^ STLLINUX|
^ NEWLUG | 9 | 5 | 11 | 10 | 8 | 7 | 10| 13 | 9 | 5 | 6 | 3 ^ NEWLUG |
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^ Year | | | | | | |2020 | | | | | ^ Year ^
| Meeting ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | Meeting ^
^ Steercom | 4 | 6 | 6 | (8)| (5)| (7)| (6)| (6)| (7)| (6)| (6)| (5)^ Steercom|
^ SLACC | 9 | 8 | (6)| (8)| (7)| (9)|(11)| (7)| (10)| (10)| (8)| (8)^ SLACC |
^ SLUUG | 17 | 13 ^ (xx)^ (xx)| (18)| (22)|(29)| (22)| (16)^ (xx)| (17)| (25)^ SLUUG |
^ STLLINUX | 18 | 12 | (12)^ (xx)| (20)| (19)|(25)| (10)| (16)| (23)| (15)^ (xx)^ STLLINUX|
^ NEWLUG | 6 | 6 | - | (10)| (13)| (13)|(12)| (11)| (11)| (12)| (15)| (9)^ NEWLUG |
|
^ Year | | | | | | |2021 | | | | | ^ Year ^
| Meeting ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | Meeting ^
^ Steercom | (5)| (4)| (5)| (5)| (5)| (5)| (6)| (7)| (5)| (7)| (6)| (6)^ Steercom|
^ SLACC | (10)| (9)| (9)| (8)| (14)| (10)|(10)| (11)| (6)| (9)| (15)| (15)^ SLACC |
^ SLUUG | (15)| (26)| (23)| (25)| (17)| (22)|(17)| (18)| (14)| (22)| (25)| (19)^ SLUUG |
^ STLLINUX | (20)| (19)| (20)| (19)| (17)| (17)|(15)| (18)| (20)| (20)| (25)| (20)^ STLLINUX|
^ NEWLUG | (13)| (15)| (16)| (14)| (9)| (10)|(10)| (11)| (15)| (12)| (16)| (10)^ NEWLINUX|
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^ Year | | | | | | |2022 | | | | | ^ Year ^
| Meeting ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | Meeting ^
^ Steercom | (6)| (5)| (7)| (5)| (5)| (6)| (4)| (6)| (6)| (6)| (5)| (5)^ Steercom|
^ SLACC | (11)| ( 9)| (12)| (14)| (12)| (11)|(13)| (11)| (8)| (12)| (9)| (9)^ SLACC |
^ SLUUG | (25)| (28)| (33)| (30)| (22)| (21)|(25)| (26)| (19)| (18)| (19)| (20)^ SLUUG |
^ STLLINUX | (28)| (21)| (20)| (20)| (21)| (17)|(21)| (18)| (14)| (20)| (16)| (33)^ STLLINUX|
^ NEWLUG | (14)| (xx)| (12)| (14)| (13)| (12)|(14)| (12)| (14)| (13)| (10)| (16)^ NEWLINUX|
|
^ Year | | | | | | |2023 | | | | | ^ Year ^
| Meeting ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | Meeting ^
^ Steercom | (4)| (6)| (6)| (7)| (7)| (7)| (5)| (7)| (6)| (5)| (4)^ (7)^ Steercom|
^ SLACC | (10)| (10)| ( 6)| (11)| ( 7)| (10)|( 7)| ( 7)| (7)| (7)| (9)^ (14)^ SLACC |
^ SLUUG | (17)| (18)| (13)| (23)| (21)| (21)|(15)| (18)| (20)| (18)| (20)^ (23)^ SLUUG |
^ STLLINUX | (19)| (16)| (19)| (24)| (21)| (19)|(18)| (17)| (14)| (16)| (27)^ (20)^ STLLINUX|
^ NEWLUG | (12)| (14)| (14)| (14)| ( 8)| ( 8)|(14)| (10)| (11)| (14)| (18)^ (13)^ NEWLINUX|
|
** Proposed layout for next year, without parenthases.**
** Was agreed upon during December 2023 meeting.**
|
^ Year | | | | | | |2024 | | | | | ^ Year ^
| Meeting ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | Meeting ^
^ Steercom | 6 | 4 | 6 | 4 ^ 5 | 4 | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? ^ Steercom|
^ SLACC | 13 | 11 | 9 | 6+ ^ 12 | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? ^ SLACC |
^ SLUUG | 24 | 24 | 21 | 22 ^ 28 | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? ^ SLUUG |
^ STLLINUX | 25 | 23 | 27 | 24 ^ 15 | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? ^ STLLINUX|
^ NEWLUG | 16 | 10 | 11 | 14 ^ 18 | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? ^ NEWLINUX|
|
* LEGEND:
* Greyed out areas indicate corrections or never previously reported counts.
* xx - numbers not yet recorded, attendance not taken, or sheet missing.
* ?? - Future Numbers.
*(9) - Number in parentheses is head count. Use head count if greater than attendance sheet count (or sheet missing).
* * - sLUGs was STL Linux Users Group for Seniors with initial meeting 8 February 2015. Discontinued October 2017.
* * - SNUG SuSe was STL Novell Users Group with lunch meeting. Discontinued December 2017.
* - - dash indicates no meeting (NEWLUG March 2020).
* ISSUES:
* Remote ZOOM sessions do not provide record of attendance. Currently done by Stan R with separate video recording.
*
* **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to December 2023 Steercom have been removed.**
* 2023-12-04 Comments:
* Since there is no longer a sign-in sheet difference from actual head count, Stan R would like to remove parentheses that surround numbers.
* Stan R uses a separate connection ( named Anonymous Coward ) to record virtual meeting attendance. Nobody else is doing this.
* Stan R records meeting attendance in a LibreOffice Database and makes it available from the [[http://www.sluug.org/steercom/|Steering Committee webpage]]
* Nobody else is recording the attendance or even seems to be looking at that ATTENDANCE database.
* ** Future Event ** Stan R gets run over by a truck.
* Gary does screen shots, giving some kind of attendance.
* 2024-01-03 Comments: Stan R was amazed at number of folks that attended NEWLUNIX on the day after Xmas.
* 2024-02-05 Comments: NEWLINUX attendance strong, with a bunch of people from MEETUP.
* 2025-03-04 Comments: NEWLINUX was down in numbers; but, quality was high.
* 2024-04-01 Comments: None
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: None
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* NEWLINUX had lots of help from Phil and other regulars. As it should be; because Stan had sound problem first half.
====== Meeting Review Comments ======
// SUMMARY: We try to analyse what happened or what was presented at the previous months meetings.//
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==== STEERCOM - Apr 29th, 2024 ====
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: We are here.
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* None
==== SLACC - May 2nd, 2024 ====
// SUMMARY: Usually no presentation; so, held as a **Configuration Workshop** offering
installation and configuration help. Hardware, Operating System and Vendor agnostic.
//
* [[http://slacc.sluug.org/|SLACC]] is the Saint Louis Area Computer Club.
* First Thursday of each month. Free format; so attendance determines what is covered.
* 2024-02-05 Comments:
* One first time and one second time attendee. A few questions we could not provide good solutions.
* Otherwise, not many hardware or software configuration questions before going off on tangents.
* Some questions and discussion about systemd journaling logs, and demonstration of using pinfo to inavigate
* info pages. Question was asked about drop dead time to upgrade BOCK to debian 11.
* Ballot not yet avilable; but, explained that ballots would be made available on line and would
* be accepted for counting up to date of next Steering Committee meeting.
* Gary M described SLUUG Base session time as quickly covering required **annual meeting** and **Brief Review of Debian Upgrade**.
* Also, MAIN Topic **Continued Growth of Artificial Intellegence** by Scott Granneman.
* 2024-03-04 Comments: None
* 2024-04-01 Comments: None
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024:
* Don't see any problems. Phil has been able to connect from Arkansas consistently ( sister has fiber ).
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* Phil very helpful.
==== SLUUG - May 8th, 2024 ====
* [[http://www.sluug.org/|SLUUG General Meeting]]
* [[http://www.sluug.org/steercom/planning.pdf|Planning Schedule Report ]]
* Second Wednesday of the month.
* BASE (Personal Computing):
* STATUS: **Done**
* WHAT: **Network Sniffing for Beginners**
* BY: **Grant Taylor and Lee Lammert**
* SYNOPSIS: **Practical Problem Solving with Wireshark**
* WRANGLER: Lee
* ABSTRACT: YES
* BIO: YES
* REMARKS:
* We did not have an alternative ( secondary ) topic on hand.
* December SLUUG BASE was **Asciinema** by Sean Twiehaus
* January SLUUG BASE was **History of the Shell** by Ed Howland
* February SLUUG BASE was **Brief Review of Debian Upgrade** by volunteers
* March SLUUG BASE was **Cloning BOCK and Bringing Online** by Lee Lammert
* April SLUUG BASE was **Screenshot To Code** by **Sean Twiehaus**
* 2024-02-05 Comments:
* Official annual meeting required by charter.
* Ballot not finished, needs to be available online NLT 14 February main meeting.
* Can we have specific email address for submitting ballots?
* We need to explain ballots sent by email are not anonymous nor secret, and that
* ballots sent thru USPS surface mail can be handled and treated to be anonymous and secret.
* BOCK is on OpenSuSE virtual machine with XEN kernel. Issue is that Lee has yet to figure out how to clone BOCK.
* vote2024@sluug.org is email address for submitting ballots, received by Lee, Gary and Stan.
* 2024-03-04 Comments: None
* 2024-04-01 Comments: None
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: None
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* Expecting this will be first of a series. Part two was promsised.
* Stan R mentioned that hot topic last month was about Remote Connectivity.
* James C believes it ot be a very good idea to have a running tutoril series.
----
** COOKIE TIME ~ ANNOUNCEMENTS ~ CALL FOR HELP (Gooey Middle): **
----
* [[http://www.sluug.org/|SLUUG General Meeting]]
* [[http://www.sluug.org/steercom/planning.pdf|Planning Schedule Report ]]
* Second Wednesday of the month.
* MAIN (Professional Computing):
* STATUS: **Done**
* WHAT: **Review of Cybersecurity with AI**
* BY: Tony Zafiropoulos
* SYNOPSIS: NA
* WRANGLER: Gary
* ABSTRACT: No
* BIO: NA
* REMARKS:
* We did not have an alternative ( secondary ) topic on hand.
* November SLUUG MAIN was **Microsoft Windows Subsystem for Android** by Jon Newbold, Microsoft
* December SLUUG MAIN was **Python's Pandas Data Frames** by Robert Citek
* January SLUUG MAIN was **Systemd Timers Better than Cron** by Sean Twiehaus
* February SLUUG MAIN was **Continued Growth of Artificial Intelligence** by Scott Granneman
* March SLUUG MAIN was **Computer History From 1968 On** by Scott Granneman
* April SLUUG MAIN was **To Be Determined** by **Unknown**
* 2024-03-04 Comments: None
* 2024-04-01 Comments:
* Originally confirmed **Linux Virtualization Round Table** BY: **Robert Citek**
* However, withdrawn because of scheduling conlict.
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024:
* Gary hasn't been able to contact Craig within the last few days to confirm.
* Gary will presume we will be able to confirm shortly.
* https://blueridgeruby.com/speakers_2024/craig-buchek/
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* Originally Craig Buchek had tentative offering something about Ruby on Rails; but, exact topic was not clear.
* Mostly a bunch of examples, not much more structured and analysed.
==== STLLINUX - May 16th, 2024 ====
// SUMMARY: Formal presentations usually focused on LINUX Operating System
//
* [[https://stllug.sluug.org/|STLLINUX]] is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
* [[http://www.sluug.org/steercom/planning.pdf|Planning Schedule Report ]]
* Eight days after SLUUG MAIN General Meeting.
* LINUX
* STATUS: **Done**
* WHAT: **Computer History from 1980 to 1989**
* BY: **Scott Granneman**
* SYNOPSIS: NA
* WRANGLER: NA
* ABSTRACT: NA
* BIO: NA
* REMARKS:
* We did not have an alternative (secondary) topic on hand.
* December STLLINUX was **ZFS 3-2-1 Backup and Bitrot** by Sean Twiehaus
* January STLLINUX was **Introduction to Hadoop** by Steven Lembark
* February STLLINUX was **Large Language Models** by Alex Towell
* March STLLINUX was **Using LLM and RAG** by Sean Twiehaus
* April STLLINUX was **The XZ Hack** by **Andrew Denner**
* 2024-03-04 Comments: None
* 2024-04-01 Comments:
* Original draft title: **Demonstration of Local LLM **
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024:
* Not exactly Linux specific; but, we won't complain.
* Best offer for now. A follow-on to talk given two months ago ( March SLUUG meeting ).
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* Orginal title that we had given Scott's talk: **Time Line of Computing in the 80s**
* Very good coverage of how MS DOS copied features of CPM.
* Excellent comprehensive and detailed coverage that went long ( but worthwhile ).
==== NEWLINUX - May 28th, 2024 ====
// SUMMARY:
Previously named Hazelwood LUG (HZWLUG), then Newcomer LUG (NEWLUG). Now, Newcomer Linux User Group is designated as NEWLINUX.
The NEWLINUX home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which we could start.
Usually no presentation; so, held as a **Beginner Workshop** offering installation and configuration help.
Topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover way more than one topic.
//
* [[http://newlug.sluug.org |NEWLUG]] was how we named our Linux Users Group (LUG) for Linux Newcomers.
* [[http://newlinux.org |NEWLINUX]] is name that we can frequently use for our Newcomer Linux Users Group.
* Fourth Tuesday of each month. Free format; so attendance determines what is covered.
* 2024-03-04 Comments: None
* 2024-04-01 Comments: None
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024:
* Works well when regulars show up. Expect NO problems.
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* Using Fredom Foundations JITSI server for session. Eliminates Google sign-in problems.
* Started JITSI meeting early; but, took more than half hour to get my sound working. Phil kept meeting going.
* The usual regulars were very helpful assisting the Linux newcomer.
====== Meeting Schedule ======
// SUMMARY: **This is where we discuss available and confirmed meeting topics.** //
**GOAL:** **To map out meeting topics for as much as 3 months out.**
* **No physical face-to-face meetings until further notice.**
* **When we again have physical meetings, we would like to continue video meetings in conjunction with any physical meetings.**
* We try to track prospects to give presentations at our SLUUG General (SLUUG) meeting and LINUX (STLLINUX) meetings.
* We try to segregate topic types as either **BASE, MAIN or LINUX,** with BASE and MAIN given at the General meeting (SLUUG).
* **BASE** topics should be oriented toward simpler Personal Computing. Usually given at General meeting (SLUUG).
* Short is good. Something fundamental, introductory, instructive or simple.
* **MAIN** topics should be oriented more toward advanced or Professional Computing. Usually given at General meeting (SLUUG).
* Something more advanced, detailed, important, profound, new, significant, timely or useful.
* **LINUX** topics often could be either at the General meeting or at the St. Louis Linux Users Group (STLLINUX) meetings.
* We want to have alternative (secondary) topic on hand if primary speaker doesn't show.
* Gary will continue to explore different computer manufacturers (ex: Cray) who might be able to do presentation "Where are they now?"
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==== STEERCOM - June 3rd, 2024 ====
* 2024-04-01 Comments: None
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024:
* Lee will be out of town. Might be able to connect remotely; but, won't be running from BAT Cave.
* Presume Stan R will start the ZOOM meeting.
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* Stan R expects it to be complicated and difficult to start the meeting along with coordinating the attendance recordings.
* Wasn't all that bad; but, lonely at start. Few to none early attendees, just Gary and me to start.
==== SLACC - June 6th, 2024 ====
// SUMMARY: Usually no presentation; so, held as a **Configuration Workshop** offering
installation and configuration help. Hardware, Operating System and Vendor agnostic.
//
* [[http://slacc.sluug.org/|SLACC]] is the Saint Louis Area Computer Club.
* First Thursday of each month. Free format; so attendance determines what is covered.
* 2024-02-05 Comments:
* One first time and one second time attendee. A few questions we could not provide good solutions. Otherwise, not many hardware or
* software configuration questions before going off on tangents. Some questions and discussion about systemd journaling logs, and
* demonstration of using pinfo to navigate info pages. Question was asked about drop dead time to upgrade BOCK to debian 11.
* Ballot not yet available; but, explained that ballots would be made available on line and would be accepted for counting up to date
* of next Steering Committee meeting. Gary M described SLUUG Base session time as quickly covering required **annual meeting**
* and **Brief Review of Debian Upgrade**.
* Also, MAIN Topic **Continued Growth of Artificial Intelligence** by Scott Granneman.
* 2024-03-04 Comments: None
* 2024-04-01 Comments: None
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: None
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* Added July holiday change notice to SLACC billboard slides.
* Going to do SLACC on 5 July.
==== SLUUG - June 12th, 2024 ====
* [[http://www.sluug.org/|SLUUG General Meeting]]
* [[http://www.sluug.org/steercom/planning.pdf|Planning Schedule Report ]]
* Second Wednesday of the month.
* BASE (Personal Computing):
* STATUS: **Confirmed**
* WHAT: **Network Sniffing ~ Part Two **
* BY: **Grant Taylor and Lee Lammert**
* SYNOPSIS: NA
* WRANGLER: NA
* ABSTRACT: YES
* BIO: YES
* REMARKS:
* We did not have an alternative ( secondary ) topic on hand.
* December SLUUG BASE was **Asciinema** by Sean Twiehaus
* January SLUUG BASE was **History of the Shell** by Ed Howland
* February SLUUG BASE was **Brief Review of Debian Upgrade** by volunteers
* March SLUUG BASE was **Cloning BOCK and Bringing Online** by Lee Lammert
* April SLUUG BASE was **Screenshot To Code** by **Sean Twiehaus**
* May SLUUG BASE was **Network Sniffing for Beginners** by **Grant Taylor and Lee Lammert**
* 2024-02-05 Comments:
* Official annual meeting required by charter.
* Ballot not finished, needs to be available online NLT 14 February main meeting.
* Can we have specific email address for submitting ballots?
* We need to explain ballots sent by email are not anonymous nor secret, and that
* ballots sent thru USPS surface mail can be handled and treated to be anonymous and secret.
* BOCK is on OpenSuSE virtual machine with XEN kernel. Issue is that Lee has yet to figure out how to clone BOCK.
* vote2024@sluug.org is email address for submitting ballots, received by Lee, Gary and Stan.
* 2024-03-04 Comments: None
* 2024-04-01 Comments: None
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: None
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* Haven't read abstract yet, for putting up on home page.
----
** COOKIE TIME ~ ANNOUNCEMENTS ~ CALL FOR HELP (Gooey Middle): **
----
* [[http://www.sluug.org/|SLUUG General Meeting]]
* [[http://www.sluug.org/steercom/planning.pdf|Planning Schedule Report ]]
* Second Wednesday of the month.
* MAIN (Professional Computing):
* STATUS: **Confirmed**
* WHAT: **Social Media for Techies**
* BY: Scott Granneman
* SYNOPSIS: Why use which social media. Discord? Slac? Facebook? Monmoth?
* WRANGLER: Gary
* ABSTRACT: NO
* BIO: NA
* REMARKS:
* We did not have an alternative ( secondary ) topic on hand.
* December SLUUG MAIN was **Python's Pandas Data Frames** by Robert Citek
* January SLUUG MAIN was **Systemd Timers Better than Cron** by Sean Twiehaus
* February SLUUG MAIN was **Continued Growth of Artificial Intelligence** by Scott Granneman
* March SLUUG MAIN was **Computer History From 1968 On** by Scott Granneman
* April SLUUG MAIN was **Virtualization Shootout** by **Volunteer Participants**
* May SLUUG MAIN was **Review of Cybersecurity AI** by **Tony Zafiropoulos**
* 2024-03-04 Comments: None
* 2024-04-01 Comments:
* Originally confirmed **Linux Virtualization Round Table** BY: **Robert Citek**
* However, withdrawn because of scheduling conlict.
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: None
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* We just want to see what Scott says.
==== STLLINUX - June 20th, 2024 ====
// SUMMARY: Formal presentations usually focused on LINUX Operating System
//
* [[https://stllug.sluug.org/|STLLINUX]] is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
* [[http://www.sluug.org/steercom/planning.pdf|Planning Schedule Report ]]
* Eight days after SLUUG MAIN General Meeting.
* LINUX
* STATUS: **Available**
* WHAT: **To Be Determined ( TBD ) **
* BY: **Sombody Special**
* SYNOPSIS: NA
* WRANGLER: NA
* ABSTRACT: NA
* BIO: NA
* REMARKS:
* We did not have an alternative (secondary) topic on hand.
* December STLLINUX was **ZFS 3-2-1 Backup and Bitrot** by Sean Twiehaus
* January STLLINUX was **Introduction to Hadoop** by Steven Lembark
* February STLLINUX was **Large Language Models** by Alex Towell
* March STLLINUX was **Using LLM and RAG** by Sean Twiehaus
* April STLLINUX was **The XZ Hack ** by **Andrew Denner**
* May STLLINUX was **Computer History from 1980 to 1989** by **Scott Granneman**
* 2024-03-04 Comments: None
* 2024-04-01 Comments:
* Original draft title: **Demonstration of Local LLM ** by Sean Twiehause
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024:
* Gary may get co-hosted session with local R Language group.
* Also, with the local ladies R Language group, which is still very active.
* Alex may be distracted by university class work.
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* Moved WHAT: **Loading R Library into Linux** by **Alex Towell** to **Idea** SLUUG MAIN July 10th
* SYNOPSIS: R Language is used for statistics and charts.
* Alex Towell may be currently streached with other issues and obligations.
* Alex Towell facing reoccuring health issues.
* Originally ( Craig Buchek had tentative offering something about Ruby on Rails; but, exact topic was not clear.
* https://blueridgeruby.com/speakers_2024/craig-buchek/
* Craig will attempt something more Linux specific for July or later.
==== NEWLINUX - June 25th, 2024 ====
// SUMMARY:
Previously named Hazelwood LUG (HZWLUG), then Newcomer LUG (NEWLUG). Now, Newcomer Linux User Group is designated as NEWLINUX.
The NEWLINUX home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which we could start.
Usually no presentation; so, held as a **Beginner Workshop** offering installation and configuration help.
Topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover way more than one topic.
//
* [[http://newlug.sluug.org |NEWLUG]] was how we named our Linux Users Group (LUG) for Linux Newcomers.
* [[http://newlinux.org |NEWLINUX]] is name that we can frequently use for our Newcomer Linux Users Group.
* Fourth Tuesday of each month. Free format; so attendance determines what is covered.
* 2024-03-04 Comments: None
* 2024-04-01 Comments: None
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: None
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* Stan may attempt a focus on beginner relivant terminology.
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==== STEERCOM - July 1st, 2024 ====
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* None
==== HOLIDAY ~ Independence Day - July 4th, 2024 ====
==== SLACC - July 5th, 2024 ====
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* Added holiday change notice to SLACC billboard slides.
==== SLUUG - July 10th, 2024 ====
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* Nonthing.
==== STLLINUX - July 18th, 2024 ====
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* Craig Buchek might have something of interest.
==== NEWLINUX - July 23rd, 2024 ====
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* Nothing.
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==== SLACC - August 1st, 2024 ====
==== STEERCOM - August 5th, 2024 ====
==== SLUUG - August 14th, 2024 ====
==== STLLINUX - August 22nd, 2024 ====
==== NEWLINUX - August 27th, 2024 ====
====== Old Business ======
===== Server Admin =====
//SUMMARY: We put up a server on the Internet for email, it grew, and now we have to maintain it.//
*
* **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.**
*
* 2023-01-09 Comments: DNS zone transfers broken right now. Investigating. Everything else working fine.
* 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Running fine. No rush to go to Debian 11.
* 2023-02-27 Comments for March::
* Removed comments prior to January 2023.
* Running fine. BOCK is a virtual machine. Host will be updated some time in March.
* 2023-04-03 Comments:
* Running. Kernel update brought down for just 5 to 10 minutes. No complaints.
* Mike Knight found 4.4 Gb of data that Stan R had temporarily hosted for BUGLug.
* 2023-05-01 Comments: Still running. Expect to upgrade from Debian 10 to 11 sometime this year.
* 2023-06-05 Comments: Seems to be working ( many thanks to maintenance script written by Mike Knight ).
* 2023-06-26 Comments for July:
=
| Version ^ Released ^ Debian Security Support ^ Debian Long Term Support ^
^ Debian 10 Buster | 2019-07-16 | 2022-09-10 | 2024-06-30 ^
^ Debian 11 Bullseye | 2021-08-14 | 2024-07-01 | 2026-06-30 ^
^ Debian 12 BookWorm | 2023-06-10 | 2026-06-10 | 2028-06-10 ^
^ ^
^ On BOCK we are currently running Debian 10 Buster. | ^
^ FYI Debian 12 was just released.| ^
^ Debian end of life dates available here [[https://endoflife.date/debian/]] | ^
^ We want to wait until cooler weather, in the Fall. Nobody is paying us to panic.| ^
=
* 2023-07-31 Comments for August: We need to post to DISCUSS about a project to upgrade BOCK.
* 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Biggest concern on BOCK upgrade is around MAILMAN.
* 2023-10-02 Comments: Planning to move from Debian 10 to Debian 11. Emcee should ask for volunteers.
* 2023-10-30 Comments for November:
* Mike Knight has been doing considerable research on mail problems.
* We still need to consider mailman versions available for Debian 11 or 12.
* We need to improve publicity for volunteer for transition to Debian.
* Gary suggests not doing December (too encumbered) to do transition, maybe January or February.
* Need to decide whether to do live upgrade session during MAIN or STLLINUX meeting.
* 2023-12-04 Comments:
* Lee has tweeked Postfix problems.
* Mike Knight solves some email problems, set up DEMARK and some paramaters that help with the mailing lists..
* 2024-01-03 Comments: Planning in progress, Wiki page is up for contributions of thoughts and issues.
* 2024-02-05 Comments: Nothing
* 2024-03-04 Comments: Nothing
* 2024-04-01 Comments: None
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024:
* Mike Knight deserves considerable credit for analysing current MAILMAN issues and traffic on BOCK.
* Some great discussions being done on SYSADMIN mailing list ( for anyone interested in this kind of sausage ).
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* Debian end of life dates available here [[https://endoflife.date/debian/]]
* Debian 10 Buster End-Of-Life is 2024-06-30. No more updates or security patches.
* Lee not here to update us on volunteer participation.
===== Bock Upgrade =====
* 2024-01-03 Comments:
* Mike Knight has been looking at Mail
* Lee recommends collecting ideas to build steps.
* A to-do list ( structure ).
* A what-we-did list ( a Wiki manager ).
* Lee suggests two people,
* one to build Wiki Page documentation.
* second is recording as we go along
* Spin up of testing version in a Virtua Machine.
* Sean Twiehaus will give shot at building Wiki instance.
* 2024-02-05 Comments:
* Sean Twiehaus created [[https://wiki.sluug.org/bock_upgrade_debian_10_-_11 ]]
* Stan R added [[https://endoflife.date/debian | Debian LTS End of Life ]] link to the Reference section.
* Discussion will be during BASE time on 14 February.
* 2024-03-04 Comments: Lee will cover next SLUUG BASE period.
* 2024-04-01 Comments: None
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024:
* Current efforts are focused on MAILMAN 2 and 3 ( MM2 and MM3 ) migration.
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* Debian end of life dates available here [[https://endoflife.date/debian/]]
* Debian 10 Buster End-Of-Life is 2024-06-30. No more updates or security patches.
* Lee not here to update us on volunteer participation.
===== Web Site SLUUG.ORG Maintenance =====
// SUMMARY: We have a traditional Internet presence with the existence of our main [[http://www.sluug.org/|SLUUG web site]]. //
*
* **Usage statistics** for Bock Web Pages [[https://www.sluug.org/hitreport/]].
*
* **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.**
*
* 2023-01-09 Comments: Mike Knight posted about broken and missing links. That prompted Stan R to make some corrections ( not all yet ).
* 2023-01-30 Comments for February:
* Some discussion about making STLLINUX site more resemble SLUUG front page.
* Consensus that it would be good idea and should clean up some Google Lighthouse complaints.
* 2023-02-27 Comments for March::
* Mike Knight posted remarking that we frequently state in many places **NO PHYSICAL MEETINGS until further notice.**
* His question is "Should they just state **NO PHYSICAL MEETINGS**.
* Or is there a plan for future real face-to-face meetings, and thus the hope for a "further notice"?
* Per Stan R there are no plans for future face-to-face SLACC and NEWLINUX meetings.
* Per Lee Nic-N-Elana's restaurant going strong ( old site ).
* We will leave narrative, so there is some hope.
* 2023-04-03 Comments: Stan R. way behind in website updates.
* 2023-05-01 Comments: Stan R. starting to catch up ( somewhat ). Barely keeping up. Little reorganization as hoped.
* 2023-06-05 Comments: Mostly simple barely keeping up. No progress on keeping things logical or stream lined.
* 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Stan R still maintaining and not drowning. Treading water.
* 2023-07-31 Comments for August: Nothing important.
* 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Steady as we go.
* 2023-10-02 Comments: Usual. Not enough time to clean up much.
* 2023-10-30 Comments for November:
* Stan R combined meeting listing from STLLINUX home page with Presentation Archives page. Used available info, clean up still needed.
* Stan R then placed Presentation Archive iframe page on all three sponsored home pages, the SLACC, STLLINUX and NEWLINUX home pages.
* 2023-12-04 Comments: Added Presentation Archive iframe page to the Steercom web page.
* 2024-01-03 Comments: None, keeping up.
* 2024-02-05 Comments:
* Usage statistics for Bock Web Pages [[https://www.sluug.org/hitreport/]].
* Gives numbers; but, they are not deeply informative.
* Stan R ( and maybe all of us ) should be intereseted in knowing how many views of Presentation Archive items we were getting.
* We might start polling during meetings, whether memebers are looking at Presentation Archive items.
* We are fat, dumb and happy. Even we don't look at what we have.
* 2024-03-04 Comments: Nothing really new.
* 2024-04-01 Comments: None
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024:
* Usual suspicious stuff.
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* Nothing unusual.
===== Uploading Presentations =====
// SUMMARY: We have recorded many of our past meetings and made some of them available on the Internet.//
*
* **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2024 Steercom have been removed.**
* 2024-01-03 Comments: Keeping up with current recordings. Not time for dealing with back-log of old recordings.
* 2024-02-05 Comments: Keeping up.
* 2024-03-04 Comments:
* Stan uploaded the presentation archive videos from the year 2019 to our YOUTUBE dot COM SLUUG channel.
* Sean T is willing to help with adding thumbnails and narratives to the material.
* 2024-04-01 Comments: None
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024:
* Don't have any thing new. New site developement doesn't seem to effect YOUTUBE upload content.
* Will start uploading 2020 stuff shortly.
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* Uploading by Stan will start again later this week.
===== Web Site MEETUP.COM Maintenance =====
//SUMMARY: We have presence on [[https://www.meetup.com/Saint-Louis-Unix-Users-Group/|MEETUP.COM]]. //
*
* **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2024 Steercom have been removed.**
* 2024-01-03 Comments: Meetup sucks, removing mistakes send out confusing CANCELLATION message.
* 2024-02-05 Comments:
* In a previous month ( December ? ) Stan R had reduced membership count by deleting many unrecogized names.
* On 20 January MEETUP membership showed as 999. Stan R reduced count again, to 896 by deleting many unrecognized names.
* Have not seen any elimanated names show back up.
* 2024-03-04 Comments: New subscribers jumped to 30 this month. Previous months usually were about 10 new subscribers.
* 2024-04-01 Comments: None
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024:
* None. Usual gripes, MEETUP sucks.
* STL RUST group has new group manager. Only been in STL about six months. Gary will back him into corner.
* RUST being included in Linux kernel as it is better environment.
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* We hate MEETUP. Gary deals with it.
===== Our Internet Presence on Other Social Media =====
// SUMMARY: We presume that our single web site isn't enough to draw younger crowd. //
*
* **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2024 Steercom have been removed.**
* 2024-01-03 Comments: No feedback from James Conroy or Sean Twiehaus about any social media.
* 2024-02-05 Comments: No specific comments, some discussion early in this meeting.
* 2024-03-04 Comments: Per Gary Meetup sucks.
* 2024-04-01 Comments: None
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: Nothing new.
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* We anxiously awaiting Scott's presentation.
===== ANNOUNCE Mailing List =====
// SUMMARY: As a historical descendant of our monthly newsletter, the ANNOUNCE mailing had been a weekly extract of our SLUUG GOOGLE Calendar of Events.
Previous editors had also styled it less of 1 liners of the entire calendar and more of abstracts of OUR talks & outstanding interest items.//
* **HISTORY:** The subscriber list has been populated from attendance sheets by a nominating subscription process, which requires human input.
*
* **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2024 Steercom have been removed.**
* 2024-01-03 Comments: None.
* 2024-02-05 Comments: Stan R thought archive was broken, but it was human error PICNIC ( Problem In Chair Not In Computer ) .
* 2024-03-04 Comments: Nothing new.
* 2024-04-01 Comments: Nothing new.
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: Nothing new.
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* Nothing new.
===== Cameras and Microphones and Projectors =====
// SUMMARY: We try to record many of our meetings.//
*
* **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to December 2023 Steercom have been removed.**
* 2023-12-04 Comments:
* Note that We have not made any progress toward moving to hybrid meetings.
* Also, we have NOT agressively advertised seeking assistance in developing hybrid meeting techniques.
* Have we essentially abandoned face-to-face meetings?
* Should we consider donating or selling these assets?
* 2024-01-03 Comments:
* No actions or decisions made on previous month comments.
* Since nobody is volunteering to do work, we won't make any progress.
* Will come back eventually; just, we don't know when.
* 2024-02-05 Comments: Not likely to bring much money.
* 2024-03-04 Comments: No change. Keep on list.
* 2024-04-01 Comments: No change.
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: No change.
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* No changes. But, we need to keep track of the hardware.
===== Attendance Database =====
// SUMMARY: We use for head count tracking and for member voting qualification during each Calendar Year (CY)//
* HISTORY:
* Attendance tracking necessary for member qualifications to vote in our annual elections.
* At face-to-face meetings we would pass around clipboard with sign-in sheet.
* The standard remote video recordings do not automatically show participants.
* Stan R runs a second connection to each video meeting named **Anonymous Coward** to record attendance.
*
* **LibreOffice BASE Attendance database file is available for download from https://www.sluug.org/steercom/ page.**
*
* **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2024 Steercom have been removed.**
* 2024-01-03 Comments:
* Keeping up the counts. Lee said very worthwhile.
* Stan R suggests we do away with elections and just do a lottery for positions.
* 2024-02-05 Comments: Run under Russian Rules.
* 2024-03-04 Comments: Actually used to validate voter qualifaction. Used it to reject one ballot as NOT QUALIFIED.
* 2024-04-01 Comments: None
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024:
* Still good, when I remember SimpleScreenRecorder for SLACC and NEWLINUX meetings.
* I want to convert from the LibreOffice BASE default HSQLDB database to MariaDB database which would securely allow multiple users.
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* Nothing new.
===== Planning Schedule Report Database =====
// SUMMARY: We have LibreOffice BASE for tracking BASE, MAIN and STLLINUX meeting topics and speakers. //
* HISTORY:
* A running database helps Gary schedule meetings.
*
* **LibreOffice BASE Planning database is available from https://www.sluug.org/steercom webpage.**
*
* Go to https://www.sluug.org/steercom/ has link to planning.pdf
* or directly to report at [[http://www.sluug.org/planning.pdf|Planning Schedule Report ]]
*
* **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2024 Steercom have been removed.**
* 2024-01-03 Comments: Lee was amazed about how many presentation he had done.
* 2024-02-05 Comments:
* Stan R added General meeting BASE and Main items, plus STLLINUX items for 1996 from info in old newsletters.
* The event items include WHEN TYPE STATUS WHAT WHO, giving a more complete history of our past efforts.
* Will have to add our previous Special Interest Group, the Computer Telephony Integration (CTI).
* Likely will later start including the previous Saint Charles Linux Users Group events.
* Above will be done when Stan R has time.
* 2024-03-04 Comments: Any improvements will likely have to wait until after BOCK upgrade.
* 2024-04-01 Comments: None
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024:
* We are updating when Gary gets responses from volunteers.
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* Nothing new.
===== Handouts =====
// SUMMARY: We have informational handout PDFs available [[http://www.sluug.org/resources/handouts/]]. //
* HISTORY:
*The PDFs are generated using LibreOffice. The originating files are stored along with generated PDFs.
* Lee ordered printer parts that should correct crinkle problem.
* Stan R has been modifying a Linux Presentation Day from 2015 found on the Internet. It has excellent content.
* Difficult to modify, as it is extremely graphically intense. Built and modified with the Scribus application.
* Likely too complex to print, may wind up splitting content to make a slide show presentation.
*
* **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2024 Steercom have been removed.**
* 2024-01-03 Comments: None.
* 2024-02-05 Comments: No time, no changes.
* 2024-03-04 Comments: No time, no changes.
* 2024-04-01 Comments: None
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: Not enough time.
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* No progress, not high priority.
===== Organizational Papers =====
// SUMMARY: We have large box of hard copy historical records concerning our organization. It has been floating around. //
* **HISTORY:** 2020-10-05 Gary found cardboard box with old secretary material. Original Xeroxes of articles of corporation, etc. Historical interest. No idea who dropped it off.
*
* **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2024 Steercom have been removed.**
* 2024-01-03 Comments: No raccoon has carried the box away.
* 2024-02-05 Comments: Stan R asked Gary M to bring him the box. Stan R wants to look for old newsletters prior to 1996.
* 2024-03-04 Comments: Box still there.
* 2024-04-01 Comments: Not asked.
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024:
* Gary vaguely remembers that there is a box.
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* Gary said earlier that they are there "somewhere".
===== Sponsorships =====
// SUMMARY: We seek financial support from the tech community. //
* **HISTORY:** We are not good at getting sponsors.
*
* **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2024 Steercom have been removed.**
* 2024-01-03 Comments:
* We appreciate donations ( two years ) by Steve Gomez.
* Concencus is to show it with beer or meal. Approved. Gary volunteered.
* 2024-02-05 Comments: Gary is slacking, hasn't contacted Steve Gomez. Did see him at a remote meeting last month.
* 2024-03-04 Comments: Omnitec ( Lee Lammert ) and Ken Johnson have kept us afloat. Greatly appreciated.
* 2024-04-01 Comments: Nothing new.
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024:
* Nothing new. Omnitec ( Lee Lammert ) and Ken Johnson.
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* Nothing new.
===== We Need Help =====
// SUMMARY: We don't have enough volunteers to do everything consistently.//
* **HISTORY:** We need new members who want to do stuff. Same as every month.
*
* **QUESTION:** Any new volunteers to help?
*
* Tyler Rudie had volunteered to help with SLUUG Google calendar input.
* Gary, Stan, & Tyler need to get together to review Tyler getting to work on Google Calendar modifications?
* Tyler Rudie has been granted permissions to help with SLUUG Google calendar input. Not yet given guidance or instructions.
* Gary needs to prompt him.
*
* **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2024 Steercom have been removed.**
* 2024-01-03 Comments:
* We need to seek more individual help by one-on-one requests. Ask crowd gets no response.
* 2024-02-05 Comments:
* Gary M has been trying to do more publicity, more timely MEETUP information. Seems to have been working.
* Gary M will seek other avenues and more one-on-one requests.
* 2024-03-04 Comments:
* Gary M should do less publicity, and find someone else to do publicity.
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024:
* All the ususal problems. No indians, just chiefs.
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* We need clones, as we aren't getting any new volunteers to speak of.
===== New Business =====
// SUMMARY: After old business, we call for anything that we need to deal with.//
*
* **QUESTION:** Do we have anything else, anything new that we need to deal with?
*
* **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2024 Steercom have been removed.**
* 2024-01-03 Comments: None.
* 2024-02-05 Comments: None.
* 2024-03-04 Comments: None.
* 2024-04-01 Comments:
* Sean T. shows an approach to moving the SLUUG website to github. He used a tool called
* screenshot to code. Announce at Weds mtg. that this project is underway. Sean will
* do Weds. base session on screenshot-to-code.
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024:
* Nothing beyound Gary's agenda.
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* Nothin new.
====== Recurring Requirements ======
// SUMMARY: We routinely rotate thru the following (just in case).//
* HISTORY:
* In past, we had missed critical government filings, dropped ball on domain renewals, and similar important items.
*
* December 2023 - Ticket ( ballot ) nominations should be solicited.
*
* January 2024 ~ Post Office Box Renewal ( automatic 6 months on credit card ) ~ Lee handles.
* January 2024 ~ Bribes early to Stan R so your name won't be on ballot.
*
* February 2024 - IRS Form 990-N for Tax Exempt Status. Due by April. e-postcard.
* February 2024 - STLLINUX.ORG domain automatic renewal.
* February 2024 - SLUUG Annual Board meeting and elections.
*
* March 2024 - Count Ballots
* March 2024 - Updates to contacts on webpage if required.
* March 2024 - Updates to email aliases if required.
*
* March 2024 - BuddyNS SLUUG account due (Automated) * WAS RENEWED.
*
* May 2024 - LetsEncrypt renews every 60 days early ( 30 day grace period ).
*
* June 2024 - BuddyNS SLUUG account due (Automated) * WAS RENEWED.
* June 2024 - Missouri Annual Report for Corporate Legal Status due. DUE 2024 ( every two years now )
* https://bsd.sos.mo.gov/BusinessEntity/BusinessEntityDetail.aspx?page=beSearch&ID=681250
* June 2024 - *automated* LetsEncrypt free SSL certificates for websites on BOCK.
*
* July 2024 - SLUUG.ORG account due (Automated) done in June.
* July 2024 ~ Post Office Box Renewal (automatic 6 months on credit card) ~ Lee handles on SLUUG card.
*
* August 2024 - Missouri Tax Holiday ( on our calendar )
* August 2024 - NEWLINUX.ORG domain renewal. Stan R.
* August 2024 - SLACC.ORG domain renewal. Stan R.
*
* September 2024
*
* October 2024
*
* November 2024 - Search for upcoming Technical Group Xmas parties to put on our calendar.
*
* **The narrative comments in this section prior to January 2024 Steercom have been removed.**
* 2024-01-03 Comments: None
* 2024-02-05 Comments: None
* 2024-03-04 Comments: Minor review.
* 2024-04-01 Comments: None.
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024:
* Lee pointed out that due to annual elections we would likely need to do every year.
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* None.
====== Recognize Useful Efforts ======
// SUMMARY: When anybody does something to help! //
* **QUESTION:** Did anyone do anything helpful or useful?
*
* 2023-12-04 Comments:
* Phil Bunch all time contributions.
* 2024-01-03 Comments:
* Phil Bunch handled the NEWLINUX meeting.
* 2024-02-05 Comments: Thanks to Ed, Lee and Stan for showing up. Lee thanks Gary for food and beer delivery.
* 2024-03-04 Comments: Dave Forrest service to the group has been greatly appreciated.
* 2024-04-01 Comments: None
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024:
* Mike Knight, Ron BC, Sean Twiehaus, and Grant T's comments on SYSADMIN list are greatly appreciated.
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* James C commends Stan for what he does.
====== Blue Sky Recording ======
* **QUESTION:** Will we have Blue Sky Idea session to record or not record?
*
* 2024-04-01 Comments: None
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: None
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* None
====== Adjourn STEERCOM Meeting ======
* **QUESTION:** At what time was STEERCOM meeting adjourned?
*
* Monday, June 3rd, 2024
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* TIME 8:31pm
====== Stop Video Recordings ======
* **QUESTION:** Have the recorders been turned off?
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* Yes
====== Blue Sky Ideas ======
// SUMMARY: Food for thought
~ anything not previously covered that provides mental stimulus for thinking about improvements or solutions. //
* HISTORY: Stimulate creativity by planting the seed of an idea.
* Current action or response not required.
* Some ideas are Off-The-Record ~ NOT TO BE RECORDED!
* Some ideas should be publicized.~ SHOULD BE RECORDED!
* If a speaker believes something should not be recorded, the recording operator needs to be notified.
* ** Each speaker would initially declare whether an idea should be recorded or not. **
*
* **The narrative comments in this section prior to January 2024 Steercom have been removed.**
* 2024-02-05 Comments: None
* 2024-03-04 Comments: None
* 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: None
* 2024-06-03 Comments:
* None
====== End of File ======