====== SLUUG Steering Committee ====== ====== 3 June 2024 ====== NOTE: Minutes posted on the Wiki are always unofficial. Schedules for upcoming presentations are always tentative. (Some more tentative than others!) ====== Location ====== * **No physical meeting until further notice ** * When we again have physical meetings, we would like to continue video meetings in conjunction with physical meetings. * 2024-06-03 Comments: * None ====== Agenda Changes ====== // SUMMARY: This is where we consider any additions, changes, deletions, sequence changes, or other changes to items in the prepared agenda. // * HISTORY: * We can consider changes prior to all reviews, planning and OLD BUSINESS items. * By jumping ahead, then back, without altering agenda layout sequence. * Do NOT alter agenda layout sequence, during current meeting. * Moving a listed item out of sequence makes later editing difficult. * * We can jump to **Old Business** items, consider, then back to usual sequence. * We can jump to **New Business** section, create new item, consider, then jump back to usual sequence. * By NOT altering agenda layout sequence during the meeting, that will keep it easier to build the next agenda. * AGENDA CHANGE: * **QUESTION:** Are there any additions, deletions, or other changes to sequence of items in the prepared agenda? * 2024-02-05 Comments: * Last month the decision was to jump to business for Sean Twiehaus so that he could leave early. * However; Stan R went right on into doing normal routine reports and nobody stopped him. * We could have done it better, allowing Sean to leave much earlier. Sorry. * 2024-03-04 Comments: * Count Ballots before the rest of the meeting. * Yes. * 2024-04-01 Comments: * Sean T will not be able to stay for whole meeting. * Yes, we will jump ahead, so that he can demonstrate topic he has been working on. * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: None * 2024-06-03 Comments: * None June 2024 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 ====== Start Video Recording ====== * **QUESTION:** Have the recorders been started ( they should be, before call to order )? * 2024-06-03 Comments: * TIME: 7:05pm ====== Start STEERCOM Meeting ====== * **QUESTION:** When was STEERCOM meeting called to order? * 2024-06-03 Comments: * Monday, June 3rd, 2024 * TIME: 7:08pm ====== Attendees ====== Listed alphabetically by last name :5 * James Conroy :?: * Jonathan Drews :?: * David Forrest :?: * Ed Howland :?: * Ken Johnson ( joined but left on sick call ) :?: * Lee Lammert * Gary Meyer * Stan Reichardt :?: * Steve Stegmann :?: * Sean Twiehaus ====== Secretary Report ====== // SUMMARY: Somebody has to build the agenda and then record the minutes. // * * **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2024 Steercom have been removed.** * 2024-01-03 Comments: * Stan R would like Sean T to act as recording Secretary ( if present and he still would ). * Sean offered in future, as requested. * 2024-02-05 Comments: Stan will Do tonight. * 2024-03-04 Comments: Stan will do tonight. * 2024-04-01 Comments: * Stan out of town, has Internet access; but, uncertain whether will be able to attend and do minutes. * Ken Johnson is recording secretary tonight. * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: * Stan acting as recording Secretary ( Ken not here yet ). * 2024-06-03 Comments: * Stan acting as recording Secretary ( Ken had to leave ). ====== Treasurer Report ====== // SUMMARY: Lee Lammert has been posting balances from bank statements. // ^ Balance as of 1 May | | |$2,842.02 | ^ Buddy NS | | -$9.27| ^ Balance as of 31 May | | |2,832.75 | * 2024-06-03 Comments: * Lee not here, out of town. * May data added. ====== Calendar Report ====== // SUMMARY: We maintain a calendar of technical events in the Greater St. Louis area and surrounding regions. // * HISTORY: * Not all events are official/sponsored SLUUG events. All sponsored events are shown in red. * Items have been added and corrected by Stan R, Gary Meyer and Don Ellis. * Items listed on this calendar were used to feed the ANNOUNCE weekly mailing. * Events on HIATUS are NOT counted! Historical items are NOT counted! * Only face-to-face meetings were counted! * Detailed breakdown showing cancelled, defunct, delayed, missed, moved, and postponed meetings was being done. * The page has been altered to allow showing separate displays of supported meetings from sponsored meetings. * Stan R has discontinued doing detailed breakdown of calendar entries believing it is too much effort for too little value. * [[http://www.sluug.org/resources/calendar|SLUUG Calendar]] is a Google Calendar available on our web site. * Count of number of events listed, each month, as of end of May 2024: = | Year ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | Year ^ ^ 2011 | xxx | xxx | 105 | 108 | 103 | 117 | 105 | 105 | 105 | 113 | 103 | 96 ^ 2011 ^ ^ 2012 | 110 | 104 | 122 | 123 | 138 | 111 | 99 | 124 | 122 | 133 | 114 | 111 ^ 2012 ^ ^ 2013 | 123 | 128 | 136 | 147 | 144 | 146 | 139 | 119 | 145 | 167 | 153 | 140 ^ 2013 ^ ^ 2014 | 143 | 159 | 174 | 165 | 188 | 165 | 132 | 136 | 173 | 165 | 141 | 107 ^ 2014 ^ ^ 2015 | 171 | 179 | 177 | 183 | 176 | 168 | 162 | 176 | 206 | 294 | 236 | 197 ^ 2015 ^ ^ 2016 | 260 | 277 | 314 | 231 | 183 | 191 | 157 | 166 | 222 | 224 | 212 | 157 ^ 2016 ^ ^ 2017 | 133 | 141 | 177 | 168 | 137 | 143 | 124 | 158 | 173 | 163 | 168 | 129 ^ 2017 ^ ^ 2018 | 165 | 177 | 166 | 179 | 162 | 165 | 147 | 176 | 166 | 184 | 163 | 113 ^ 2018 ^ ^ 2019 | 131 | 160 | 173 | 171 | 145 | 155 | 130 | 144 | 157 | 179 | 182 | 127 ^ 2019 ^ ^ 2020 | 157 | 172 | 188 | 147 | 152 | 174 | 171 | 154 | 168 | 163 | 184 | 155 ^ 2020 ^ ^ 2021 | 175 | 170 | 174 | 171 | 172 | 178 | 188 | 179 | 187 | 176 | 194 | 193 ^ 2021 ^ ^ 2022 | 210 | 219 | 244 | 219 | 234 | 228 | 251 | 229 | 264 | 268 | 270 | 238 ^ 2022 ^ ^ 2023 | 265 | 288 | 304 | 297 | 300 | 303 | 299 | 300 | 165 | 170 | 367 | 382 ^ 2023 ^ ^ 2024 | 383 | 296 | 348 | 315 ^ 343 | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? ^ 2024 ^ * LEGEND: * Greyed out areas indicate corrections or never previously reported counts. * xxx - numbers not recorded. * ??? - Future Numbers. * Stopped counting general Saint Louis County Library events in May 2016. * Re-counted April 2016 without library events. * Count of calendar entries for May is down from previous months. No explanation is given. * Count of calendar entries for March 2020 misleading because of * Limited maintenance effort for March 2020 because CORONAVIRUS-19 self-isolation effects. * Started counting **moved** and **delayed** items in April 2020 as considered being useful. * Improvements in Google Calendar feature limits to five days processing at at time, takes * about 10 times as long to perform counting. Much more tedious. * Five day limitation "improvement" gone, no longer takes so much longer to count. * ISSUES: * Originally only local STL face-to-face meetings were counted. Started adding remote meetings. * **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to December 2023 Steercom have been removed.** * 2023-12-04 Comments: * Went back to get counts for September and October. * We found that Google changed the functions of the calendar display. * Google Calendar used to have an AGENDA listing feature, now replaced with more limited SCHEDULE feature. * We do not get same level of detail from SCHEDULE display that we used for scraping events for counting. * Counts from September onward seemed to be low compared to previous methods. * There is a way to ask for detail; but, not as of yet sure that it is giving good results. * Went back to August, only got 112 compared to previous method result of 300. * Went back to July, only got 108 compared to previous method result of 299. * Our ongoing cleaning up and removing of listings for defunct events may be reason for the significant change. * We never kept the files used from previous counting, so we are unable to determine how results have changed. * The new method counts all day events and events with a specific time, not historical entries. * So, we are now only counting events, not overall effort made while putting information on the calendar. * ** Future Event ** Stan R gets run over by a truck. * 2024-01-03 Comments: Blame Stan R. * 2024-02-05 Comments: * Counts seem to include a lot of the actual live events ( many remote ones ). * Gary starting to purge defunct meetings. Changes have been appreciated. * Ed H gave us history of O'Reilly's FOO camp and the resulting BAR camp ( thus Foo Bar ). * 2024-03-04 Comments: * Gary has not been purging some of the meetings listed. Slow progression is coming. * 2024-04-01 Comments: None * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: None * 2024-06-03 Comments: * Per Gary some groups are starting to come back. Often, without much lead time notice. ====== Subscriber Report ====== // SUMMARY: Mailing List Report combined with MEETUP membership count, now called Subscriber Report.// * HISTORY: * We counted how many were on each SLUUG mailing list, then started using MEETUP dot COM site. * These numbers roughly estimate size of our community over time. Both growth and shrinkage. * Subscriber numbers (approximate) as of end of May 2024: | ^ Year | | | | | | |2017 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | List ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec |List | ^ MEETUP | 273 | 285 | 291 | 299 | 301 | 302 | 304 | 315 | 319 | 325 | 336 | 340 ^MEETUP | ^ ANNOUNCE | 582 | 580 | 575 | 570 | 569 | 569 | 569 | 568 | 566 | 562 | 562 | 559 ^ANNOUNCE| ^ DISCUSS | 197 | 196 | 193 | 190 | 191 | 192 | 191 | 192 | 191 | 189 | 188 | 189 ^DISCUSS | ^ STEERCOM | 36 | 36 | 35 | 34 | 34 | 34 | 34 | 34 | 33 | 33 | 33 | 33 ^STEERCOM| ^ SYSADMIN | 20 | 20 | 20 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 ^SYSADMIN| | ^ Year | | | | | | |2018 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | List ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | List | ^ MEETUP | 348 | 360 | 367 | 372 | 375 | 377 | 385 | 390 | 393 | 402 | 408 | 416 ^ MEETUP | ^ ANNOUNCE | 556 | 544 | 543 | 543 | 545 | 542 | 535 | 534 | 533 | 531 | 531 | 533 ^ ANNOUNCE| ^ DISCUSS | 188 | 188 | 187 | 187 | 187 | 187 | 187 | 185 | 184 | 184 | 185 | 183 ^ DISCUSS | ^ STEERCOM | 33 | 33 | 33 | 33 | 32 | 32 | 32 | 32 | 32 | 31 | 31 | 31 ^ STEERCOM| ^ SYSADMIN | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 ^ SYSADMIN| | ^ Year | | | | | | |2019 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | List ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | List | ^ MEETUP | 416 | 423 | 432 | 443 | 452 | 464 | 466 | 473 | 472 | 480 | 488 | 497 ^ MEETUP | ^ ANNOUNCE | 532 | 532 | 532 | 534 | 519 | 516 | 516 | 514 | 513 | 516 | 513 | 510 ^ ANNOUNCE| ^ DISCUSS | 184 | 182 | 181 | 182 | 183 | 183 | 191 | 190 | 191 | 191 | 190 | 190 ^ DISCUSS | ^ STEERCOM | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 31 | 30 | 30 | 31 | 32 | 32 ^ STEERCOM| ^ SYSADMIN | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 22 | 16 | 16 | 16 | 16 | 16 | 16 ^ SYSADMIN| | ^ Year | | | | | | |2020 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | List ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | List | ^ MEETUP | 501 | 514 | 516 | 521 | 527 | 535 | 547 | 555 | 564 | 570 | 577 | 590 ^ MEETUP | ^ ANNOUNCE | 504 | 502 | 501 | 501 | 500 | 499 | 497 | 495 | 492 | 491 | 490 | 490 ^ ANNOUNCE| ^ DISCUSS | 188 | 190 | 189 | 191 | 191 | 189 | 189 | 188 | 188 | 189 | 190 | 188 ^ DISCUSS | ^ STEERCOM | 31 | 31 | 31 | 30 | 30 | 30 | 30 | 24 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 23 ^ STEERCOM| ^ SYSADMIN | 16 | 16 | 16 | 16 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 ^ SYSADMIN| | ^ Year | | | | | | |2021 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | List ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | List | ^ MEETUP | 603 | 613 | 626 | 631 | 640 | 650 | 652 | 658 | 678 | 687 | 698 | 710 ^ MEETUP | ^ ANNOUNCE | 489 | 488 | 482 | 480 | 480 | 479 | 477 | 478 | 479 | 481 | 480 | 477 ^ ANNOUNCE| ^ DISCUSS | 188 | 189 | 188 | 190 | 190 | 189 | 189 | 189 | 190 | 195 | 195 | 195 ^ DISCUSS | ^ STEERCOM | 22 | 22 | 22 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 24 | 23 | 23 | 23 | 24 | 24 ^ STEERCOM| ^ SYSADMIN | 15 | 15 | 14 | 14 | 14 | 14 | 14 | 14 | 14 | 13 | 15 | 15 ^ SYSADMIN| | ^ Year | | | | | | |2022 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | List ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | List | ^ MEETUP | 718 | 727 | 730 | 751 | 762 | 770 | 787 | 806 | 823 | 830 | 840 | 871 ^ MEETUP | ^ ANNOUNCE | 480 | 475 | 474 | 474 | 473 | 472 | 471 | 469 | 469 | 469 | 470 | 469 ^ ANNOUNCE| ^ DISCUSS | 198 | 198 | 197 | 196 | 197 | 196 | 196 | 197 | 199 | 199 | 199 | 199 ^ DISCUSS | ^ STEERCOM | 24 | 24 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 26 | 25 | 25 | 25 | 25 | 24 | 24 ^ STEERCOM| ^ SYSADMIN | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 16 | 16 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 ^ SYSADMIN| | ^ Year | | | | | | |2023 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | List ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | List | ^ MEETUP | 886 | 898 | 918 | 927 | 936 | 945 | 960 | 976 | 995 | 922 | 946 | 972 ^ MEETUP | ^ ANNOUNCE | 469 | 470 | 470 | 470 | 470 | 470 | 468 | 468 | xxx | 468 | 468 | 468 ^ ANNOUNCE| ^ DISCUSS | 200 | 202 | 203 | 204 | 203 | 202 | 202 | 202 | xxx | 202 | 202 | 203 ^ DISCUSS | ^ STEERCOM | 24 | 24 | 24 | 24 | 24 | 24 | 24 | 25 | xx | 22 | 22 | 22 ^ STEERCOM| ^ SYSADMIN | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 16 | xx | 16 | 16 | 19 ^ SYSADMIN| | ^ Year | | | | | | |2024 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | List ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | List | ^ MEETUP | 902 | 930 | 950 | 977 ^ 1004| ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? ^ MEETUP | ^ ANNOUNCE | 470 | 469 | 467 | 466 ^ 465| ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? ^ ANNOUNCE| ^ DISCUSS | 205 | 205 | 205 | 202 ^ 202| ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? ^ DISCUSS | ^ STEERCOM | 23 | 23 | 23 | 23 ^ 23| ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? ^ STEERCOM| ^ SYSADMIN | 19 | 21 | 21 | 21 ^ 21| ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? ^ SYSADMIN| | * LEGEND: * Numbers as of end of each month. * Blocking of mailing list attachments not completely configured yet. * This will be much easier to do on BOCK. * ANNOUNCE mailing list. * Still no volunteer editor to do a quarterly or monthly newsletter. * Command used to generate these (as root on Bud): * /usr/lib/mailman/bin/list_members **list_name** | wc -l (This doesn't seem to work on Bock.) * Greyed out areas indicate corrections or never previously reported counts. * xxx - numbers not recorded. * ??? - Future Numbers. * ISSUES: * We do NOT have any account access or control to our presence and videos on Google+ or YouTube. * We do NOT know how or what to count in Google+ NOR do we know how to metric videos. * We do NOT know how or what to count in YouTube NOR do we know how to metric videos. * No way to change meeting dates or set temporary hiatus in Google+ * Don was to investigate Google+ status * Don was to place credentials for YouTube and any others on Bock /home/sluug * * **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2024 Steercom have been removed.** * 2024-01-03 Comments: Lee pointed out correction to program for doing counts. * 2024-02-05 Comments: Life is just too exciting. Life is more than just junk mail. * 2024-03-04 Comments: None * 2024-04-01 Comments: None * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: None * 2024-06-03 Comments: * Stan intends to go back in and reduce excess fake bodies. ====== Attendance Report ====== // SUMMARY: Somewhat reflects the community interest in topics. Or, how well we publicised event. // * HISTORY: * Initial mail list subscriptions were prompted by attendance sheets. * Group leaders are responsible for taking attendance at face-to-face meetings. * Remote session attendance display with ZOOM does NOT work automatically. * Remote session attendance done best using extra recording with Linux SimpleScreenRecorder software. * Blank attendance sheets are [[http://www.sluug.org/resources/attendance/|available here]] * Attendance numbers, as of end of May 2024: | ^ Year | | | | | | |2017 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | Meeting ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul ^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | Meeting ^ ^ Steercom | 8 | 6 | 8 | 6 | 7 | 7 | 5 | 6 | 6 | 4 | 6 | 3 ^ Steercom| ^ SLACC | 7 | 12 | 10 | 5 | 7 | (10)| 6 | 7 | 8 | 11 | xx | 6 ^ SLACC | ^ SLUUG | 20 | 17 | 24 | 17 | 10 | 13 | 7 | 13 | 12 | 21 | 14 | 16 ^ SLUUG | ^ STLLINUX | 14 | 15 | 18 | 14 | 15 | 14 | 18 | 16 | 16 | 12 | (27)| xx ^ STLLINUX| ^ NEWLUG | 9 | 10 | xx | 7 | 7 | 8 | 7 | 5 | 8 | 5 | 7 | 9 ^ NEWLUG | | ^ Year | | | | | | |2018 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | Meeting ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | Meeting ^ ^ Steercom | 7 | 3 | 6 | 7 | 6 | 6 | 5| 5 | 7 | 5 | 5 | 4 ^ Steercom| ^ SLACC | 6 | 6 | 7 | 9 | 6 | 6 | 7| 6 | 7 | 4 | 4 | 5 ^ SLACC | ^ SLUUG | 14 | 13 | 13 | 18 | 15 | 11 | 8| 15 | 14 | 14 | 10 | 13 ^ SLUUG | ^ STLLINUX | 12 | 8 | 13 | 11 | 13 | 10 | 11| 15 | 13 | xx | 9 | 9 ^ STLLINUX| ^ NEWLUG | 8 | 11 | 8 | 11 | 11 | 9 | 10| 12 | 9 | 7 | 10 | 5 ^ NEWLUG | | ^ Year | | | | | | |2019 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | Meeting ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | Meeting ^ ^ Steercom | 6 | 6 | 6 | 7 | 5 | 8 | 6| 6 | 8 | 8 | 7 | 8 ^ Steercom| ^ SLACC | 6 | 6 | 7 ^ 7 | 8 | 7 | 6| 10 | 10 | 9 | 6 | 9 ^ SLACC | ^ SLUUG | 15 | 14 | 13 | 18 | 12 | 15 | 17| (20)| 18 | 14 | 17 | 25 ^ SLUUG | ^ STLLINUX | 18 | 11 | 11 | 16 | 12 | 16 | 20| 16 | 14 | 18 | 18 | 17 ^ STLLINUX| ^ NEWLUG | 9 | 5 | 11 | 10 | 8 | 7 | 10| 13 | 9 | 5 | 6 | 3 ^ NEWLUG | | ^ Year | | | | | | |2020 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | Meeting ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | Meeting ^ ^ Steercom | 4 | 6 | 6 | (8)| (5)| (7)| (6)| (6)| (7)| (6)| (6)| (5)^ Steercom| ^ SLACC | 9 | 8 | (6)| (8)| (7)| (9)|(11)| (7)| (10)| (10)| (8)| (8)^ SLACC | ^ SLUUG | 17 | 13 ^ (xx)^ (xx)| (18)| (22)|(29)| (22)| (16)^ (xx)| (17)| (25)^ SLUUG | ^ STLLINUX | 18 | 12 | (12)^ (xx)| (20)| (19)|(25)| (10)| (16)| (23)| (15)^ (xx)^ STLLINUX| ^ NEWLUG | 6 | 6 | - | (10)| (13)| (13)|(12)| (11)| (11)| (12)| (15)| (9)^ NEWLUG | | ^ Year | | | | | | |2021 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | Meeting ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | Meeting ^ ^ Steercom | (5)| (4)| (5)| (5)| (5)| (5)| (6)| (7)| (5)| (7)| (6)| (6)^ Steercom| ^ SLACC | (10)| (9)| (9)| (8)| (14)| (10)|(10)| (11)| (6)| (9)| (15)| (15)^ SLACC | ^ SLUUG | (15)| (26)| (23)| (25)| (17)| (22)|(17)| (18)| (14)| (22)| (25)| (19)^ SLUUG | ^ STLLINUX | (20)| (19)| (20)| (19)| (17)| (17)|(15)| (18)| (20)| (20)| (25)| (20)^ STLLINUX| ^ NEWLUG | (13)| (15)| (16)| (14)| (9)| (10)|(10)| (11)| (15)| (12)| (16)| (10)^ NEWLINUX| | ^ Year | | | | | | |2022 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | Meeting ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | Meeting ^ ^ Steercom | (6)| (5)| (7)| (5)| (5)| (6)| (4)| (6)| (6)| (6)| (5)| (5)^ Steercom| ^ SLACC | (11)| ( 9)| (12)| (14)| (12)| (11)|(13)| (11)| (8)| (12)| (9)| (9)^ SLACC | ^ SLUUG | (25)| (28)| (33)| (30)| (22)| (21)|(25)| (26)| (19)| (18)| (19)| (20)^ SLUUG | ^ STLLINUX | (28)| (21)| (20)| (20)| (21)| (17)|(21)| (18)| (14)| (20)| (16)| (33)^ STLLINUX| ^ NEWLUG | (14)| (xx)| (12)| (14)| (13)| (12)|(14)| (12)| (14)| (13)| (10)| (16)^ NEWLINUX| | ^ Year | | | | | | |2023 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | Meeting ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | Meeting ^ ^ Steercom | (4)| (6)| (6)| (7)| (7)| (7)| (5)| (7)| (6)| (5)| (4)^ (7)^ Steercom| ^ SLACC | (10)| (10)| ( 6)| (11)| ( 7)| (10)|( 7)| ( 7)| (7)| (7)| (9)^ (14)^ SLACC | ^ SLUUG | (17)| (18)| (13)| (23)| (21)| (21)|(15)| (18)| (20)| (18)| (20)^ (23)^ SLUUG | ^ STLLINUX | (19)| (16)| (19)| (24)| (21)| (19)|(18)| (17)| (14)| (16)| (27)^ (20)^ STLLINUX| ^ NEWLUG | (12)| (14)| (14)| (14)| ( 8)| ( 8)|(14)| (10)| (11)| (14)| (18)^ (13)^ NEWLINUX| | ** Proposed layout for next year, without parenthases.** ** Was agreed upon during December 2023 meeting.** | ^ Year | | | | | | |2024 | | | | | ^ Year ^ | Meeting ^ Jan ^ Feb ^ Mar ^ Apr ^ May ^ Jun ^ Jul^ Aug ^ Sep ^ Oct ^ Nov ^ Dec | Meeting ^ ^ Steercom | 6 | 4 | 6 | 4 ^ 5 | 4 | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? ^ Steercom| ^ SLACC | 13 | 11 | 9 | 6+ ^ 12 | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? ^ SLACC | ^ SLUUG | 24 | 24 | 21 | 22 ^ 28 | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? ^ SLUUG | ^ STLLINUX | 25 | 23 | 27 | 24 ^ 15 | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? ^ STLLINUX| ^ NEWLUG | 16 | 10 | 11 | 14 ^ 18 | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? ^ NEWLINUX| | * LEGEND: * Greyed out areas indicate corrections or never previously reported counts. * xx - numbers not yet recorded, attendance not taken, or sheet missing. * ?? - Future Numbers. *(9) - Number in parentheses is head count. Use head count if greater than attendance sheet count (or sheet missing). * * - sLUGs was STL Linux Users Group for Seniors with initial meeting 8 February 2015. Discontinued October 2017. * * - SNUG SuSe was STL Novell Users Group with lunch meeting. Discontinued December 2017. * - - dash indicates no meeting (NEWLUG March 2020). * ISSUES: * Remote ZOOM sessions do not provide record of attendance. Currently done by Stan R with separate video recording. * * **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to December 2023 Steercom have been removed.** * 2023-12-04 Comments: * Since there is no longer a sign-in sheet difference from actual head count, Stan R would like to remove parentheses that surround numbers. * Stan R uses a separate connection ( named Anonymous Coward ) to record virtual meeting attendance. Nobody else is doing this. * Stan R records meeting attendance in a LibreOffice Database and makes it available from the [[http://www.sluug.org/steercom/|Steering Committee webpage]] * Nobody else is recording the attendance or even seems to be looking at that ATTENDANCE database. * ** Future Event ** Stan R gets run over by a truck. * Gary does screen shots, giving some kind of attendance. * 2024-01-03 Comments: Stan R was amazed at number of folks that attended NEWLUNIX on the day after Xmas. * 2024-02-05 Comments: NEWLINUX attendance strong, with a bunch of people from MEETUP. * 2025-03-04 Comments: NEWLINUX was down in numbers; but, quality was high. * 2024-04-01 Comments: None * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: None * 2024-06-03 Comments: * NEWLINUX had lots of help from Phil and other regulars. As it should be; because Stan had sound problem first half. ====== Meeting Review Comments ====== // SUMMARY: We try to analyse what happened or what was presented at the previous months meetings.// ===== May 2024 ===== May 2024 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 ==== STEERCOM - Apr 29th, 2024 ==== * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: We are here. * 2024-06-03 Comments: * None ==== SLACC - May 2nd, 2024 ==== // SUMMARY: Usually no presentation; so, held as a **Configuration Workshop** offering installation and configuration help. Hardware, Operating System and Vendor agnostic. // * [[http://slacc.sluug.org/|SLACC]] is the Saint Louis Area Computer Club. * First Thursday of each month. Free format; so attendance determines what is covered. * 2024-02-05 Comments: * One first time and one second time attendee. A few questions we could not provide good solutions. * Otherwise, not many hardware or software configuration questions before going off on tangents. * Some questions and discussion about systemd journaling logs, and demonstration of using pinfo to inavigate * info pages. Question was asked about drop dead time to upgrade BOCK to debian 11. * Ballot not yet avilable; but, explained that ballots would be made available on line and would * be accepted for counting up to date of next Steering Committee meeting. * Gary M described SLUUG Base session time as quickly covering required **annual meeting** and **Brief Review of Debian Upgrade**. * Also, MAIN Topic **Continued Growth of Artificial Intellegence** by Scott Granneman. * 2024-03-04 Comments: None * 2024-04-01 Comments: None * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: * Don't see any problems. Phil has been able to connect from Arkansas consistently ( sister has fiber ). * 2024-06-03 Comments: * Phil very helpful. ==== SLUUG - May 8th, 2024 ==== * [[http://www.sluug.org/|SLUUG General Meeting]] * [[http://www.sluug.org/steercom/planning.pdf|Planning Schedule Report ]] * Second Wednesday of the month. * BASE (Personal Computing): * STATUS: **Done** * WHAT: **Network Sniffing for Beginners** * BY: **Grant Taylor and Lee Lammert** * SYNOPSIS: **Practical Problem Solving with Wireshark** * WRANGLER: Lee * ABSTRACT: YES * BIO: YES * REMARKS: * We did not have an alternative ( secondary ) topic on hand. * December SLUUG BASE was **Asciinema** by Sean Twiehaus * January SLUUG BASE was **History of the Shell** by Ed Howland * February SLUUG BASE was **Brief Review of Debian Upgrade** by volunteers * March SLUUG BASE was **Cloning BOCK and Bringing Online** by Lee Lammert * April SLUUG BASE was **Screenshot To Code** by **Sean Twiehaus** * 2024-02-05 Comments: * Official annual meeting required by charter. * Ballot not finished, needs to be available online NLT 14 February main meeting. * Can we have specific email address for submitting ballots? * We need to explain ballots sent by email are not anonymous nor secret, and that * ballots sent thru USPS surface mail can be handled and treated to be anonymous and secret. * BOCK is on OpenSuSE virtual machine with XEN kernel. Issue is that Lee has yet to figure out how to clone BOCK. * vote2024@sluug.org is email address for submitting ballots, received by Lee, Gary and Stan. * 2024-03-04 Comments: None * 2024-04-01 Comments: None * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: None * 2024-06-03 Comments: * Expecting this will be first of a series. Part two was promsised. * Stan R mentioned that hot topic last month was about Remote Connectivity. * James C believes it ot be a very good idea to have a running tutoril series. ---- ** COOKIE TIME ~ ANNOUNCEMENTS ~ CALL FOR HELP (Gooey Middle): ** ---- * [[http://www.sluug.org/|SLUUG General Meeting]] * [[http://www.sluug.org/steercom/planning.pdf|Planning Schedule Report ]] * Second Wednesday of the month. * MAIN (Professional Computing): * STATUS: **Done** * WHAT: **Review of Cybersecurity with AI** * BY: Tony Zafiropoulos * SYNOPSIS: NA * WRANGLER: Gary * ABSTRACT: No * BIO: NA * REMARKS: * We did not have an alternative ( secondary ) topic on hand. * November SLUUG MAIN was **Microsoft Windows Subsystem for Android** by Jon Newbold, Microsoft * December SLUUG MAIN was **Python's Pandas Data Frames** by Robert Citek * January SLUUG MAIN was **Systemd Timers Better than Cron** by Sean Twiehaus * February SLUUG MAIN was **Continued Growth of Artificial Intelligence** by Scott Granneman * March SLUUG MAIN was **Computer History From 1968 On** by Scott Granneman * April SLUUG MAIN was **To Be Determined** by **Unknown** * 2024-03-04 Comments: None * 2024-04-01 Comments: * Originally confirmed **Linux Virtualization Round Table** BY: **Robert Citek** * However, withdrawn because of scheduling conlict. * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: * Gary hasn't been able to contact Craig within the last few days to confirm. * Gary will presume we will be able to confirm shortly. * https://blueridgeruby.com/speakers_2024/craig-buchek/ * 2024-06-03 Comments: * Originally Craig Buchek had tentative offering something about Ruby on Rails; but, exact topic was not clear. * Mostly a bunch of examples, not much more structured and analysed. ==== STLLINUX - May 16th, 2024 ==== // SUMMARY: Formal presentations usually focused on LINUX Operating System // * [[https://stllug.sluug.org/|STLLINUX]] is the St. Louis Linux Users Group. * [[http://www.sluug.org/steercom/planning.pdf|Planning Schedule Report ]] * Eight days after SLUUG MAIN General Meeting. * LINUX * STATUS: **Done** * WHAT: **Computer History from 1980 to 1989** * BY: **Scott Granneman** * SYNOPSIS: NA * WRANGLER: NA * ABSTRACT: NA * BIO: NA * REMARKS: * We did not have an alternative (secondary) topic on hand. * December STLLINUX was **ZFS 3-2-1 Backup and Bitrot** by Sean Twiehaus * January STLLINUX was **Introduction to Hadoop** by Steven Lembark * February STLLINUX was **Large Language Models** by Alex Towell * March STLLINUX was **Using LLM and RAG** by Sean Twiehaus * April STLLINUX was **The XZ Hack** by **Andrew Denner** * 2024-03-04 Comments: None * 2024-04-01 Comments: * Original draft title: **Demonstration of Local LLM ** * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: * Not exactly Linux specific; but, we won't complain. * Best offer for now. A follow-on to talk given two months ago ( March SLUUG meeting ). * 2024-06-03 Comments: * Orginal title that we had given Scott's talk: **Time Line of Computing in the 80s** * Very good coverage of how MS DOS copied features of CPM. * Excellent comprehensive and detailed coverage that went long ( but worthwhile ). ==== NEWLINUX - May 28th, 2024 ==== // SUMMARY: Previously named Hazelwood LUG (HZWLUG), then Newcomer LUG (NEWLUG). Now, Newcomer Linux User Group is designated as NEWLINUX. The NEWLINUX home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which we could start. Usually no presentation; so, held as a **Beginner Workshop** offering installation and configuration help. Topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover way more than one topic. // * [[http://newlug.sluug.org |NEWLUG]] was how we named our Linux Users Group (LUG) for Linux Newcomers. * [[http://newlinux.org |NEWLINUX]] is name that we can frequently use for our Newcomer Linux Users Group. * Fourth Tuesday of each month. Free format; so attendance determines what is covered. * 2024-03-04 Comments: None * 2024-04-01 Comments: None * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: * Works well when regulars show up. Expect NO problems. * 2024-06-03 Comments: * Using Fredom Foundations JITSI server for session. Eliminates Google sign-in problems. * Started JITSI meeting early; but, took more than half hour to get my sound working. Phil kept meeting going. * The usual regulars were very helpful assisting the Linux newcomer. ====== Meeting Schedule ====== // SUMMARY: **This is where we discuss available and confirmed meeting topics.** // **GOAL:** **To map out meeting topics for as much as 3 months out.** * **No physical face-to-face meetings until further notice.** * **When we again have physical meetings, we would like to continue video meetings in conjunction with any physical meetings.** * We try to track prospects to give presentations at our SLUUG General (SLUUG) meeting and LINUX (STLLINUX) meetings. * We try to segregate topic types as either **BASE, MAIN or LINUX,** with BASE and MAIN given at the General meeting (SLUUG). * **BASE** topics should be oriented toward simpler Personal Computing. Usually given at General meeting (SLUUG). * Short is good. Something fundamental, introductory, instructive or simple. * **MAIN** topics should be oriented more toward advanced or Professional Computing. Usually given at General meeting (SLUUG). * Something more advanced, detailed, important, profound, new, significant, timely or useful. * **LINUX** topics often could be either at the General meeting or at the St. Louis Linux Users Group (STLLINUX) meetings. * We want to have alternative (secondary) topic on hand if primary speaker doesn't show. * Gary will continue to explore different computer manufacturers (ex: Cray) who might be able to do presentation "Where are they now?" June 2024 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 ==== STEERCOM - June 3rd, 2024 ==== * 2024-04-01 Comments: None * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: * Lee will be out of town. Might be able to connect remotely; but, won't be running from BAT Cave. * Presume Stan R will start the ZOOM meeting. * 2024-06-03 Comments: * Stan R expects it to be complicated and difficult to start the meeting along with coordinating the attendance recordings. * Wasn't all that bad; but, lonely at start. Few to none early attendees, just Gary and me to start. ==== SLACC - June 6th, 2024 ==== // SUMMARY: Usually no presentation; so, held as a **Configuration Workshop** offering installation and configuration help. Hardware, Operating System and Vendor agnostic. // * [[http://slacc.sluug.org/|SLACC]] is the Saint Louis Area Computer Club. * First Thursday of each month. Free format; so attendance determines what is covered. * 2024-02-05 Comments: * One first time and one second time attendee. A few questions we could not provide good solutions. Otherwise, not many hardware or * software configuration questions before going off on tangents. Some questions and discussion about systemd journaling logs, and * demonstration of using pinfo to navigate info pages. Question was asked about drop dead time to upgrade BOCK to debian 11. * Ballot not yet available; but, explained that ballots would be made available on line and would be accepted for counting up to date * of next Steering Committee meeting. Gary M described SLUUG Base session time as quickly covering required **annual meeting** * and **Brief Review of Debian Upgrade**. * Also, MAIN Topic **Continued Growth of Artificial Intelligence** by Scott Granneman. * 2024-03-04 Comments: None * 2024-04-01 Comments: None * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: None * 2024-06-03 Comments: * Added July holiday change notice to SLACC billboard slides. * Going to do SLACC on 5 July. ==== SLUUG - June 12th, 2024 ==== * [[http://www.sluug.org/|SLUUG General Meeting]] * [[http://www.sluug.org/steercom/planning.pdf|Planning Schedule Report ]] * Second Wednesday of the month. * BASE (Personal Computing): * STATUS: **Confirmed** * WHAT: **Network Sniffing ~ Part Two ** * BY: **Grant Taylor and Lee Lammert** * SYNOPSIS: NA * WRANGLER: NA * ABSTRACT: YES * BIO: YES * REMARKS: * We did not have an alternative ( secondary ) topic on hand. * December SLUUG BASE was **Asciinema** by Sean Twiehaus * January SLUUG BASE was **History of the Shell** by Ed Howland * February SLUUG BASE was **Brief Review of Debian Upgrade** by volunteers * March SLUUG BASE was **Cloning BOCK and Bringing Online** by Lee Lammert * April SLUUG BASE was **Screenshot To Code** by **Sean Twiehaus** * May SLUUG BASE was **Network Sniffing for Beginners** by **Grant Taylor and Lee Lammert** * 2024-02-05 Comments: * Official annual meeting required by charter. * Ballot not finished, needs to be available online NLT 14 February main meeting. * Can we have specific email address for submitting ballots? * We need to explain ballots sent by email are not anonymous nor secret, and that * ballots sent thru USPS surface mail can be handled and treated to be anonymous and secret. * BOCK is on OpenSuSE virtual machine with XEN kernel. Issue is that Lee has yet to figure out how to clone BOCK. * vote2024@sluug.org is email address for submitting ballots, received by Lee, Gary and Stan. * 2024-03-04 Comments: None * 2024-04-01 Comments: None * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: None * 2024-06-03 Comments: * Haven't read abstract yet, for putting up on home page. ---- ** COOKIE TIME ~ ANNOUNCEMENTS ~ CALL FOR HELP (Gooey Middle): ** ---- * [[http://www.sluug.org/|SLUUG General Meeting]] * [[http://www.sluug.org/steercom/planning.pdf|Planning Schedule Report ]] * Second Wednesday of the month. * MAIN (Professional Computing): * STATUS: **Confirmed** * WHAT: **Social Media for Techies** * BY: Scott Granneman * SYNOPSIS: Why use which social media. Discord? Slac? Facebook? Monmoth? * WRANGLER: Gary * ABSTRACT: NO * BIO: NA * REMARKS: * We did not have an alternative ( secondary ) topic on hand. * December SLUUG MAIN was **Python's Pandas Data Frames** by Robert Citek * January SLUUG MAIN was **Systemd Timers Better than Cron** by Sean Twiehaus * February SLUUG MAIN was **Continued Growth of Artificial Intelligence** by Scott Granneman * March SLUUG MAIN was **Computer History From 1968 On** by Scott Granneman * April SLUUG MAIN was **Virtualization Shootout** by **Volunteer Participants** * May SLUUG MAIN was **Review of Cybersecurity AI** by **Tony Zafiropoulos** * 2024-03-04 Comments: None * 2024-04-01 Comments: * Originally confirmed **Linux Virtualization Round Table** BY: **Robert Citek** * However, withdrawn because of scheduling conlict. * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: None * 2024-06-03 Comments: * We just want to see what Scott says. ==== STLLINUX - June 20th, 2024 ==== // SUMMARY: Formal presentations usually focused on LINUX Operating System // * [[https://stllug.sluug.org/|STLLINUX]] is the St. Louis Linux Users Group. * [[http://www.sluug.org/steercom/planning.pdf|Planning Schedule Report ]] * Eight days after SLUUG MAIN General Meeting. * LINUX * STATUS: **Available** * WHAT: **To Be Determined ( TBD ) ** * BY: **Sombody Special** * SYNOPSIS: NA * WRANGLER: NA * ABSTRACT: NA * BIO: NA * REMARKS: * We did not have an alternative (secondary) topic on hand. * December STLLINUX was **ZFS 3-2-1 Backup and Bitrot** by Sean Twiehaus * January STLLINUX was **Introduction to Hadoop** by Steven Lembark * February STLLINUX was **Large Language Models** by Alex Towell * March STLLINUX was **Using LLM and RAG** by Sean Twiehaus * April STLLINUX was **The XZ Hack ** by **Andrew Denner** * May STLLINUX was **Computer History from 1980 to 1989** by **Scott Granneman** * 2024-03-04 Comments: None * 2024-04-01 Comments: * Original draft title: **Demonstration of Local LLM ** by Sean Twiehause * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: * Gary may get co-hosted session with local R Language group. * Also, with the local ladies R Language group, which is still very active. * Alex may be distracted by university class work. * 2024-06-03 Comments: * Moved WHAT: **Loading R Library into Linux** by **Alex Towell** to **Idea** SLUUG MAIN July 10th * SYNOPSIS: R Language is used for statistics and charts. * Alex Towell may be currently streached with other issues and obligations. * Alex Towell facing reoccuring health issues. * Originally ( Craig Buchek had tentative offering something about Ruby on Rails; but, exact topic was not clear. * https://blueridgeruby.com/speakers_2024/craig-buchek/ * Craig will attempt something more Linux specific for July or later. ==== NEWLINUX - June 25th, 2024 ==== // SUMMARY: Previously named Hazelwood LUG (HZWLUG), then Newcomer LUG (NEWLUG). Now, Newcomer Linux User Group is designated as NEWLINUX. The NEWLINUX home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which we could start. Usually no presentation; so, held as a **Beginner Workshop** offering installation and configuration help. Topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover way more than one topic. // * [[http://newlug.sluug.org |NEWLUG]] was how we named our Linux Users Group (LUG) for Linux Newcomers. * [[http://newlinux.org |NEWLINUX]] is name that we can frequently use for our Newcomer Linux Users Group. * Fourth Tuesday of each month. Free format; so attendance determines what is covered. * 2024-03-04 Comments: None * 2024-04-01 Comments: None * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: None * 2024-06-03 Comments: * Stan may attempt a focus on beginner relivant terminology. July 2024 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 ==== STEERCOM - July 1st, 2024 ==== * 2024-06-03 Comments: * None ==== HOLIDAY ~ Independence Day - July 4th, 2024 ==== ==== SLACC - July 5th, 2024 ==== * 2024-06-03 Comments: * Added holiday change notice to SLACC billboard slides. ==== SLUUG - July 10th, 2024 ==== * 2024-06-03 Comments: * Nonthing. ==== STLLINUX - July 18th, 2024 ==== * 2024-06-03 Comments: * Craig Buchek might have something of interest. ==== NEWLINUX - July 23rd, 2024 ==== * 2024-06-03 Comments: * Nothing. August 2024 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 ==== SLACC - August 1st, 2024 ==== ==== STEERCOM - August 5th, 2024 ==== ==== SLUUG - August 14th, 2024 ==== ==== STLLINUX - August 22nd, 2024 ==== ==== NEWLINUX - August 27th, 2024 ==== ====== Old Business ====== ===== Server Admin ===== //SUMMARY: We put up a server on the Internet for email, it grew, and now we have to maintain it.// * * **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.** * * 2023-01-09 Comments: DNS zone transfers broken right now. Investigating. Everything else working fine. * 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Running fine. No rush to go to Debian 11. * 2023-02-27 Comments for March:: * Removed comments prior to January 2023. * Running fine. BOCK is a virtual machine. Host will be updated some time in March. * 2023-04-03 Comments: * Running. Kernel update brought down for just 5 to 10 minutes. No complaints. * Mike Knight found 4.4 Gb of data that Stan R had temporarily hosted for BUGLug. * 2023-05-01 Comments: Still running. Expect to upgrade from Debian 10 to 11 sometime this year. * 2023-06-05 Comments: Seems to be working ( many thanks to maintenance script written by Mike Knight ). * 2023-06-26 Comments for July: = | Version ^ Released ^ Debian Security Support ^ Debian Long Term Support ^ ^ Debian 10 Buster | 2019-07-16 | 2022-09-10 | 2024-06-30 ^ ^ Debian 11 Bullseye | 2021-08-14 | 2024-07-01 | 2026-06-30 ^ ^ Debian 12 BookWorm | 2023-06-10 | 2026-06-10 | 2028-06-10 ^ ^ ^ ^ On BOCK we are currently running Debian 10 Buster. | ^ ^ FYI Debian 12 was just released.| ^ ^ Debian end of life dates available here [[https://endoflife.date/debian/]] | ^ ^ We want to wait until cooler weather, in the Fall. Nobody is paying us to panic.| ^ = * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: We need to post to DISCUSS about a project to upgrade BOCK. * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Biggest concern on BOCK upgrade is around MAILMAN. * 2023-10-02 Comments: Planning to move from Debian 10 to Debian 11. Emcee should ask for volunteers. * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: * Mike Knight has been doing considerable research on mail problems. * We still need to consider mailman versions available for Debian 11 or 12. * We need to improve publicity for volunteer for transition to Debian. * Gary suggests not doing December (too encumbered) to do transition, maybe January or February. * Need to decide whether to do live upgrade session during MAIN or STLLINUX meeting. * 2023-12-04 Comments: * Lee has tweeked Postfix problems. * Mike Knight solves some email problems, set up DEMARK and some paramaters that help with the mailing lists.. * 2024-01-03 Comments: Planning in progress, Wiki page is up for contributions of thoughts and issues. * 2024-02-05 Comments: Nothing * 2024-03-04 Comments: Nothing * 2024-04-01 Comments: None * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: * Mike Knight deserves considerable credit for analysing current MAILMAN issues and traffic on BOCK. * Some great discussions being done on SYSADMIN mailing list ( for anyone interested in this kind of sausage ). * 2024-06-03 Comments: * Debian end of life dates available here [[https://endoflife.date/debian/]] * Debian 10 Buster End-Of-Life is 2024-06-30. No more updates or security patches. * Lee not here to update us on volunteer participation. ===== Bock Upgrade ===== * 2024-01-03 Comments: * Mike Knight has been looking at Mail * Lee recommends collecting ideas to build steps. * A to-do list ( structure ). * A what-we-did list ( a Wiki manager ). * Lee suggests two people, * one to build Wiki Page documentation. * second is recording as we go along * Spin up of testing version in a Virtua Machine. * Sean Twiehaus will give shot at building Wiki instance. * 2024-02-05 Comments: * Sean Twiehaus created [[https://wiki.sluug.org/bock_upgrade_debian_10_-_11 ]] * Stan R added [[https://endoflife.date/debian | Debian LTS End of Life ]] link to the Reference section. * Discussion will be during BASE time on 14 February. * 2024-03-04 Comments: Lee will cover next SLUUG BASE period. * 2024-04-01 Comments: None * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: * Current efforts are focused on MAILMAN 2 and 3 ( MM2 and MM3 ) migration. * 2024-06-03 Comments: * Debian end of life dates available here [[https://endoflife.date/debian/]] * Debian 10 Buster End-Of-Life is 2024-06-30. No more updates or security patches. * Lee not here to update us on volunteer participation. ===== Web Site SLUUG.ORG Maintenance ===== // SUMMARY: We have a traditional Internet presence with the existence of our main [[http://www.sluug.org/|SLUUG web site]]. // * * **Usage statistics** for Bock Web Pages [[https://www.sluug.org/hitreport/]]. * * **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.** * * 2023-01-09 Comments: Mike Knight posted about broken and missing links. That prompted Stan R to make some corrections ( not all yet ). * 2023-01-30 Comments for February: * Some discussion about making STLLINUX site more resemble SLUUG front page. * Consensus that it would be good idea and should clean up some Google Lighthouse complaints. * 2023-02-27 Comments for March:: * Mike Knight posted remarking that we frequently state in many places **NO PHYSICAL MEETINGS until further notice.** * His question is "Should they just state **NO PHYSICAL MEETINGS**. * Or is there a plan for future real face-to-face meetings, and thus the hope for a "further notice"? * Per Stan R there are no plans for future face-to-face SLACC and NEWLINUX meetings. * Per Lee Nic-N-Elana's restaurant going strong ( old site ). * We will leave narrative, so there is some hope. * 2023-04-03 Comments: Stan R. way behind in website updates. * 2023-05-01 Comments: Stan R. starting to catch up ( somewhat ). Barely keeping up. Little reorganization as hoped. * 2023-06-05 Comments: Mostly simple barely keeping up. No progress on keeping things logical or stream lined. * 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Stan R still maintaining and not drowning. Treading water. * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: Nothing important. * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Steady as we go. * 2023-10-02 Comments: Usual. Not enough time to clean up much. * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: * Stan R combined meeting listing from STLLINUX home page with Presentation Archives page. Used available info, clean up still needed. * Stan R then placed Presentation Archive iframe page on all three sponsored home pages, the SLACC, STLLINUX and NEWLINUX home pages. * 2023-12-04 Comments: Added Presentation Archive iframe page to the Steercom web page. * 2024-01-03 Comments: None, keeping up. * 2024-02-05 Comments: * Usage statistics for Bock Web Pages [[https://www.sluug.org/hitreport/]]. * Gives numbers; but, they are not deeply informative. * Stan R ( and maybe all of us ) should be intereseted in knowing how many views of Presentation Archive items we were getting. * We might start polling during meetings, whether memebers are looking at Presentation Archive items. * We are fat, dumb and happy. Even we don't look at what we have. * 2024-03-04 Comments: Nothing really new. * 2024-04-01 Comments: None * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: * Usual suspicious stuff. * 2024-06-03 Comments: * Nothing unusual. ===== Uploading Presentations ===== // SUMMARY: We have recorded many of our past meetings and made some of them available on the Internet.// * * **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2024 Steercom have been removed.** * 2024-01-03 Comments: Keeping up with current recordings. Not time for dealing with back-log of old recordings. * 2024-02-05 Comments: Keeping up. * 2024-03-04 Comments: * Stan uploaded the presentation archive videos from the year 2019 to our YOUTUBE dot COM SLUUG channel. * Sean T is willing to help with adding thumbnails and narratives to the material. * 2024-04-01 Comments: None * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: * Don't have any thing new. New site developement doesn't seem to effect YOUTUBE upload content. * Will start uploading 2020 stuff shortly. * 2024-06-03 Comments: * Uploading by Stan will start again later this week. ===== Web Site MEETUP.COM Maintenance ===== //SUMMARY: We have presence on [[https://www.meetup.com/Saint-Louis-Unix-Users-Group/|MEETUP.COM]]. // * * **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2024 Steercom have been removed.** * 2024-01-03 Comments: Meetup sucks, removing mistakes send out confusing CANCELLATION message. * 2024-02-05 Comments: * In a previous month ( December ? ) Stan R had reduced membership count by deleting many unrecogized names. * On 20 January MEETUP membership showed as 999. Stan R reduced count again, to 896 by deleting many unrecognized names. * Have not seen any elimanated names show back up. * 2024-03-04 Comments: New subscribers jumped to 30 this month. Previous months usually were about 10 new subscribers. * 2024-04-01 Comments: None * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: * None. Usual gripes, MEETUP sucks. * STL RUST group has new group manager. Only been in STL about six months. Gary will back him into corner. * RUST being included in Linux kernel as it is better environment. * 2024-06-03 Comments: * We hate MEETUP. Gary deals with it. ===== Our Internet Presence on Other Social Media ===== // SUMMARY: We presume that our single web site isn't enough to draw younger crowd. // * * **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2024 Steercom have been removed.** * 2024-01-03 Comments: No feedback from James Conroy or Sean Twiehaus about any social media. * 2024-02-05 Comments: No specific comments, some discussion early in this meeting. * 2024-03-04 Comments: Per Gary Meetup sucks. * 2024-04-01 Comments: None * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: Nothing new. * 2024-06-03 Comments: * We anxiously awaiting Scott's presentation. ===== ANNOUNCE Mailing List ===== // SUMMARY: As a historical descendant of our monthly newsletter, the ANNOUNCE mailing had been a weekly extract of our SLUUG GOOGLE Calendar of Events. Previous editors had also styled it less of 1 liners of the entire calendar and more of abstracts of OUR talks & outstanding interest items.// * **HISTORY:** The subscriber list has been populated from attendance sheets by a nominating subscription process, which requires human input. * * **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2024 Steercom have been removed.** * 2024-01-03 Comments: None. * 2024-02-05 Comments: Stan R thought archive was broken, but it was human error PICNIC ( Problem In Chair Not In Computer ) . * 2024-03-04 Comments: Nothing new. * 2024-04-01 Comments: Nothing new. * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: Nothing new. * 2024-06-03 Comments: * Nothing new. ===== Cameras and Microphones and Projectors ===== // SUMMARY: We try to record many of our meetings.// * * **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to December 2023 Steercom have been removed.** * 2023-12-04 Comments: * Note that We have not made any progress toward moving to hybrid meetings. * Also, we have NOT agressively advertised seeking assistance in developing hybrid meeting techniques. * Have we essentially abandoned face-to-face meetings? * Should we consider donating or selling these assets? * 2024-01-03 Comments: * No actions or decisions made on previous month comments. * Since nobody is volunteering to do work, we won't make any progress. * Will come back eventually; just, we don't know when. * 2024-02-05 Comments: Not likely to bring much money. * 2024-03-04 Comments: No change. Keep on list. * 2024-04-01 Comments: No change. * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: No change. * 2024-06-03 Comments: * No changes. But, we need to keep track of the hardware. ===== Attendance Database ===== // SUMMARY: We use for head count tracking and for member voting qualification during each Calendar Year (CY)// * HISTORY: * Attendance tracking necessary for member qualifications to vote in our annual elections. * At face-to-face meetings we would pass around clipboard with sign-in sheet. * The standard remote video recordings do not automatically show participants. * Stan R runs a second connection to each video meeting named **Anonymous Coward** to record attendance. * * **LibreOffice BASE Attendance database file is available for download from https://www.sluug.org/steercom/ page.** * * **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2024 Steercom have been removed.** * 2024-01-03 Comments: * Keeping up the counts. Lee said very worthwhile. * Stan R suggests we do away with elections and just do a lottery for positions. * 2024-02-05 Comments: Run under Russian Rules. * 2024-03-04 Comments: Actually used to validate voter qualifaction. Used it to reject one ballot as NOT QUALIFIED. * 2024-04-01 Comments: None * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: * Still good, when I remember SimpleScreenRecorder for SLACC and NEWLINUX meetings. * I want to convert from the LibreOffice BASE default HSQLDB database to MariaDB database which would securely allow multiple users. * 2024-06-03 Comments: * Nothing new. ===== Planning Schedule Report Database ===== // SUMMARY: We have LibreOffice BASE for tracking BASE, MAIN and STLLINUX meeting topics and speakers. // * HISTORY: * A running database helps Gary schedule meetings. * * **LibreOffice BASE Planning database is available from https://www.sluug.org/steercom webpage.** * * Go to https://www.sluug.org/steercom/ has link to planning.pdf * or directly to report at [[http://www.sluug.org/planning.pdf|Planning Schedule Report ]] * * **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2024 Steercom have been removed.** * 2024-01-03 Comments: Lee was amazed about how many presentation he had done. * 2024-02-05 Comments: * Stan R added General meeting BASE and Main items, plus STLLINUX items for 1996 from info in old newsletters. * The event items include WHEN TYPE STATUS WHAT WHO, giving a more complete history of our past efforts. * Will have to add our previous Special Interest Group, the Computer Telephony Integration (CTI). * Likely will later start including the previous Saint Charles Linux Users Group events. * Above will be done when Stan R has time. * 2024-03-04 Comments: Any improvements will likely have to wait until after BOCK upgrade. * 2024-04-01 Comments: None * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: * We are updating when Gary gets responses from volunteers. * 2024-06-03 Comments: * Nothing new. ===== Handouts ===== // SUMMARY: We have informational handout PDFs available [[http://www.sluug.org/resources/handouts/]]. // * HISTORY: *The PDFs are generated using LibreOffice. The originating files are stored along with generated PDFs. * Lee ordered printer parts that should correct crinkle problem. * Stan R has been modifying a Linux Presentation Day from 2015 found on the Internet. It has excellent content. * Difficult to modify, as it is extremely graphically intense. Built and modified with the Scribus application. * Likely too complex to print, may wind up splitting content to make a slide show presentation. * * **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2024 Steercom have been removed.** * 2024-01-03 Comments: None. * 2024-02-05 Comments: No time, no changes. * 2024-03-04 Comments: No time, no changes. * 2024-04-01 Comments: None * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: Not enough time. * 2024-06-03 Comments: * No progress, not high priority. ===== Organizational Papers ===== // SUMMARY: We have large box of hard copy historical records concerning our organization. It has been floating around. // * **HISTORY:** 2020-10-05 Gary found cardboard box with old secretary material. Original Xeroxes of articles of corporation, etc. Historical interest. No idea who dropped it off. * * **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2024 Steercom have been removed.** * 2024-01-03 Comments: No raccoon has carried the box away. * 2024-02-05 Comments: Stan R asked Gary M to bring him the box. Stan R wants to look for old newsletters prior to 1996. * 2024-03-04 Comments: Box still there. * 2024-04-01 Comments: Not asked. * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: * Gary vaguely remembers that there is a box. * 2024-06-03 Comments: * Gary said earlier that they are there "somewhere". ===== Sponsorships ===== // SUMMARY: We seek financial support from the tech community. // * **HISTORY:** We are not good at getting sponsors. * * **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2024 Steercom have been removed.** * 2024-01-03 Comments: * We appreciate donations ( two years ) by Steve Gomez. * Concencus is to show it with beer or meal. Approved. Gary volunteered. * 2024-02-05 Comments: Gary is slacking, hasn't contacted Steve Gomez. Did see him at a remote meeting last month. * 2024-03-04 Comments: Omnitec ( Lee Lammert ) and Ken Johnson have kept us afloat. Greatly appreciated. * 2024-04-01 Comments: Nothing new. * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: * Nothing new. Omnitec ( Lee Lammert ) and Ken Johnson. * 2024-06-03 Comments: * Nothing new. ===== We Need Help ===== // SUMMARY: We don't have enough volunteers to do everything consistently.// * **HISTORY:** We need new members who want to do stuff. Same as every month. * * **QUESTION:** Any new volunteers to help? * * Tyler Rudie had volunteered to help with SLUUG Google calendar input. * Gary, Stan, & Tyler need to get together to review Tyler getting to work on Google Calendar modifications? * Tyler Rudie has been granted permissions to help with SLUUG Google calendar input. Not yet given guidance or instructions. * Gary needs to prompt him. * * **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2024 Steercom have been removed.** * 2024-01-03 Comments: * We need to seek more individual help by one-on-one requests. Ask crowd gets no response. * 2024-02-05 Comments: * Gary M has been trying to do more publicity, more timely MEETUP information. Seems to have been working. * Gary M will seek other avenues and more one-on-one requests. * 2024-03-04 Comments: * Gary M should do less publicity, and find someone else to do publicity. * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: * All the ususal problems. No indians, just chiefs. * 2024-06-03 Comments: * We need clones, as we aren't getting any new volunteers to speak of. ===== New Business ===== // SUMMARY: After old business, we call for anything that we need to deal with.// * * **QUESTION:** Do we have anything else, anything new that we need to deal with? * * **The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2024 Steercom have been removed.** * 2024-01-03 Comments: None. * 2024-02-05 Comments: None. * 2024-03-04 Comments: None. * 2024-04-01 Comments: * Sean T. shows an approach to moving the SLUUG website to github. He used a tool called * screenshot to code. Announce at Weds mtg. that this project is underway. Sean will * do Weds. base session on screenshot-to-code. * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: * Nothing beyound Gary's agenda. * 2024-06-03 Comments: * Nothin new. ====== Recurring Requirements ====== // SUMMARY: We routinely rotate thru the following (just in case).// * HISTORY: * In past, we had missed critical government filings, dropped ball on domain renewals, and similar important items. * * December 2023 - Ticket ( ballot ) nominations should be solicited. * * January 2024 ~ Post Office Box Renewal ( automatic 6 months on credit card ) ~ Lee handles. * January 2024 ~ Bribes early to Stan R so your name won't be on ballot. * * February 2024 - IRS Form 990-N for Tax Exempt Status. Due by April. e-postcard. * February 2024 - STLLINUX.ORG domain automatic renewal. * February 2024 - SLUUG Annual Board meeting and elections. * * March 2024 - Count Ballots * March 2024 - Updates to contacts on webpage if required. * March 2024 - Updates to email aliases if required. * * March 2024 - BuddyNS SLUUG account due (Automated) * WAS RENEWED. * * May 2024 - LetsEncrypt renews every 60 days early ( 30 day grace period ). * * June 2024 - BuddyNS SLUUG account due (Automated) * WAS RENEWED. * June 2024 - Missouri Annual Report for Corporate Legal Status due. DUE 2024 ( every two years now ) * https://bsd.sos.mo.gov/BusinessEntity/BusinessEntityDetail.aspx?page=beSearch&ID=681250 * June 2024 - *automated* LetsEncrypt free SSL certificates for websites on BOCK. * * July 2024 - SLUUG.ORG account due (Automated) done in June. * July 2024 ~ Post Office Box Renewal (automatic 6 months on credit card) ~ Lee handles on SLUUG card. * * August 2024 - Missouri Tax Holiday ( on our calendar ) * August 2024 - NEWLINUX.ORG domain renewal. Stan R. * August 2024 - SLACC.ORG domain renewal. Stan R. * * September 2024 * * October 2024 * * November 2024 - Search for upcoming Technical Group Xmas parties to put on our calendar. * * **The narrative comments in this section prior to January 2024 Steercom have been removed.** * 2024-01-03 Comments: None * 2024-02-05 Comments: None * 2024-03-04 Comments: Minor review. * 2024-04-01 Comments: None. * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: * Lee pointed out that due to annual elections we would likely need to do every year. * 2024-06-03 Comments: * None. ====== Recognize Useful Efforts ====== // SUMMARY: When anybody does something to help! // * **QUESTION:** Did anyone do anything helpful or useful? * * 2023-12-04 Comments: * Phil Bunch all time contributions. * 2024-01-03 Comments: * Phil Bunch handled the NEWLINUX meeting. * 2024-02-05 Comments: Thanks to Ed, Lee and Stan for showing up. Lee thanks Gary for food and beer delivery. * 2024-03-04 Comments: Dave Forrest service to the group has been greatly appreciated. * 2024-04-01 Comments: None * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: * Mike Knight, Ron BC, Sean Twiehaus, and Grant T's comments on SYSADMIN list are greatly appreciated. * 2024-06-03 Comments: * James C commends Stan for what he does. ====== Blue Sky Recording ====== * **QUESTION:** Will we have Blue Sky Idea session to record or not record? * * 2024-04-01 Comments: None * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: None * 2024-06-03 Comments: * None ====== Adjourn STEERCOM Meeting ====== * **QUESTION:** At what time was STEERCOM meeting adjourned? * * Monday, June 3rd, 2024 * 2024-06-03 Comments: * TIME 8:31pm ====== Stop Video Recordings ====== * **QUESTION:** Have the recorders been turned off? * 2024-06-03 Comments: * Yes ====== Blue Sky Ideas ====== // SUMMARY: Food for thought ~ anything not previously covered that provides mental stimulus for thinking about improvements or solutions. // * HISTORY: Stimulate creativity by planting the seed of an idea. * Current action or response not required. * Some ideas are Off-The-Record ~ NOT TO BE RECORDED! * Some ideas should be publicized.~ SHOULD BE RECORDED! * If a speaker believes something should not be recorded, the recording operator needs to be notified. * ** Each speaker would initially declare whether an idea should be recorded or not. ** * * **The narrative comments in this section prior to January 2024 Steercom have been removed.** * 2024-02-05 Comments: None * 2024-03-04 Comments: None * 2024-04-29 Comments for May 2024: None * 2024-06-03 Comments: * None ====== End of File ======