NOTE: Minutes posted on the Wiki are always unofficial. Schedules for upcoming presentations are always tentative. (Some more tentative than others!)

Panera ~ Saint Louis Bread Company,
(at Old Olive and Olive),
10550 Old Olive Street Road,
Creve Coeur, MO 63141

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• Monday, September 30th, 2019 (for October)
• QUESTION: When was meeting called to order?
• Time:

Listed alphabetically by last name:

* James Conroy

* Chuck Doolittle ~ Moving to South Carolina for new job.

* Don Ellis

* David Forrest

* Ken Johnson

* Lee Lammert

* Andrew Latham ~ Moving to Denver Colorado for new job.

* Gary Meyer

* Stan Reichardt

* Steve Stegmann

• Are there any additions, deletions, or other changes to sequence of items in the prepared agenda?
• 2019-09-30 (for October)
  • Change: Temporarily did STL - October 17 topic.

• Don Ellis
  • 2019-09-30 (for October)
    • Stan R volunteered to record.

• SLUUG Calendar is a Google Calendar available on our web site.
• This is a calendar of technical events in the Greater St. Louis area and surrounding regions.
• Not all events are official/sponsored SLUUG events. All sponsored events are shown in red.
• Items have been added and corrected by Stan R, Gary Meyer and Don Ellis.
• Items listed on this calendar were used to feed the ANNOUNCE weekly mailing.
• Events on HIATUS are NOT counted! Historical items are NOT counted! Only face to face meetings are counted!
• Count of number of events listed, each month, as of end of September 2019:

• xxx - numbers not recorded.
• ??? - Future Numbers.
• Stopped counting general StL County Library events in May 2016.
• Re-counted April 2016 without library events.
• Count of calendar entries for May is down from previous months. No explanation is given.

• SUMMARY Mailing List Report combined with MEETUP membership count, now called Subscriber Report.
• Subscriber numbers (approximate) as of end of September 2019:

• Numbers as end of each month.
• Blocking of mailing list attachments not completely configured yet. This will be much easier to do on BOCK.
• ANNOUNCE mailing list.
  • Still no volunteer editor to do a quarterly or monthly newsletter.
• Command used to generate these (as root on Bud):
  • /usr/local/mailman/bin/list_members list_name | wc -l (This doesn't seem to work on Bock.)
• xxx - numbers not recorded.
• ??? - Future Numbers.
• - - dash indicates list did not previously exist.

• We do NOT have any account access or control to our presence and videos on Google+ or YouTube.
• We do NOT know how or what to count in Google+ NOR do we know how to metric videos.
• We do NOT know how or what to count in YouTube NOR do we know how to metric videos.
• No way to change meeting dates or set temporary hiatus in Google+
• Don will investigate Google+ status
• Don will place credentials for YouTube and any others on Bock /home/sluug

• Initial mail list subscriptions are prompted by attendance sheets.
• Group leaders are responsible for taking attendance at meetings.
• Blank attendance sheets are available here
• Attendance numbers, as of end of September 2019:

• xx - numbers not yet recorded, attendance not taken, or sheet missing.
• ?? - Future Numbers.
• (9) - Number in parentheses is head count. Use head count if greater than attendance sheet count (or sheet missing).
• * - sLUGs was STL Linux Users Group for Seniors with initial meeting 8 February 2015. Discontinued October 2017.
• * - SNUG SuSe was STL Novell Users Group with lunch meeting. Discontinued December 2017.
• - - dash indicates no meeting.

• SUMMARY: We analyse what was given at the previous months meetings.

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• Do we need to delay or hold STEERCOM meeting early?
• YES: Moved to Aug 28

• SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Thornhill Branch
  • 

• SLUUG General Meeting
  • VENUE Graybar Electric Company Inc., 11885 Lackland Road, St. Louis MO 63146
    • This was last time we were able to meet at this location, due to Graybar contracting out all their IT staff positions.
    • As a contingency, we HAD an approved reservation at STL County Mid-County Branch (MC) for 11 September.
    • Cancelled reservation on the day prior, therefore no cost.
    • Please wait to discuss future locations within the New Location Requirements Business segment.

• BASE (Personal Computing):
  • STATUS: Done
  • WHAT: Using a Tiling Windows Manager
  • BY: Jame Conroy
  • SYNOPSIS: In computing, a tiling window manager is a window
  • manager with an organization of the screen into mutually
  • non-overlapping frames, as opposed to the more popular approach
  • of coordinate-based stacking of overlapping objects that tries to
  • fully emulate the desktop metaphor.
  • WRANGLER: Gary
  • ABSTRACT: YES
  • BIO: YES
  • REMARKS: Presented well and quite informative.

COOKIE TIME ~ ANNOUNCEMENTS ~ CALL FOR HELP (Gooey Middle ):

• MAIN (Enterprise Computing):
  • STATUS: Done
  • WHAT: Visual Studio Code
  • BY: Scott Granneman
  • SYNOPSIS: Visual Studio Code is a free, open source editor for
  • coding in almost any language you can think of, and it runs on all
  • major platforms. It's really good, and is improving rapidly every
  • month. In fact, it is now the #1 developers editor according to
  • the Stack Overflow 2019 Developer Survey. In this talk I'll cover
  • installation, how VSCode works, the interface, key features,
  • extensions that Web developers in particular might want, and
  • configuration, including keyboard shortcuts.
  • WRANGLER: Gary
  • ABSTRACT: NO
  • BIO: YES
  • REMARKS: Replaced Eric Hoffan's topic about using Linux at SLU.
    • Dave thought it was one of Scott's better presentations. With
    • very short notice, was amazing. Gary thought would been better with shell instead
    • of CSS as examples (for our audience).

• The annual, traveling event is in St. Louis
• We should:
  • try to make contact with organizers,
  • be allowed to introduce ourselves to the crowd,
  • leave pamphlets on tables.
  • Since this is the 3rd Thurs, Gary had hoped to solicit them to have some speaker for us at STLlug that evening (the event ends at 4-5).
  • ALERT!!! SuSE website no longer shows StL for users but still shows it for exhibitors & sponsors. ??? No hotel listed. ??? What's up?
    • Jason Yaklee is no longer coordinating with User Groups.
  • ALERT!!!! The annual, traveling SuSE Expert Days down as being Sept 19 in St. L. I.e TODAY!!!
    • Gary had hoped to solicit them to have some speaker for us at STLlug that evening (their event at hotel ends at 4-5).
    • Now SuSE website seems confused as to IF THIS IS IN StL!?!?!?!? If SuSE does come thru, we may need to bump Sam's NIXos to a later month.
    • Josh Smith is local account manager.
  • Was cancelled.

• STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
  • VENUE Nick and Elena's Pizzeria, 3007 Woodson Rd, Overland, MO 63114
  • We want to have alternative topic on hand if primary speaker doesn't show.
  • LINUX:
    • STATUS: Done
    • WHAT: Nix and NixOS
    • BY: Sam Hatfield
    • SYNOPSIS: NixOS is a Linux distribution with a unique approach to package and configuration management. Built on top of the Nix package manager, it is completely declarative, makes upgrading systems reliable, and has many other advantages.
    • WRANGLER: Gary
    • ABSTRACT: YES
    • BIO: NO
    • REMARKS: NIXos presentation from May 2 (per Gary M)
      • Language or distro? Different attitude toward repository (called "store")
      • In NixOS, what are the unique & thoughtful features distinguishing it from others?
      • Good but went a little long. User interface not very good. Eats up storage space.

• NEWLUG Our Linux Users Group for Linux Newcomers.
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Prairie Commons Branch thru end of year.
  • TOPICS are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one topic.
    • NEWLUG home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which to take off
  • Stan R posted narrative summary of this meeting to DISCUSS mailing list.
  • 

• HISTORY Steering Committee usually meets on Monday of the week prior to (9 days) General Meeting.
• VENUE Panera ~ St. Louis Bread Co., 10550 Old Olive Street Rd, Creve Coeur, MO 63141
• Link to past minutes and agenda.
• Link to potential tutorials, topics and speakers.
  • 

• SUMMARY: We try to track prospects to give presentations at our SLUUG General meetings. We try to determine topic types as either BASE, MAIN or LINUX. BASE are oriented toward simpler Personal Computing. MAIN are oriented toware advanced and Enterprise Computing.
  • Gary will continue to explore different computer manufacturers (ex: Cray) who might be able to do presentation "Where are they now?"
    • 

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• SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Thornhill Branch
  • 

• October 2019 - First Saturday, reserve rooms at St. Louis County Library Branches for first half of YR 2020.
• Phil and Stan likely to handle.
• 

• SLUUG General Meeting
  • VENUE To Be Determined (TBD)
    • As a contingency, we have an approved reservation at STL County Thornhill Branch (TH) for 9 October.
    • If we do not use, we must cancel by the day prior.
    • Please wait to discuss future locations within the New Location Requirements Business segment.
  • We want to have alternative topic on hand if primary speaker doesn't show.
  • BASE (Personal Computing):
    • STATUS: Confirmed
    • WHAT: Command Line History
    • BY: David Forrest
    • SYNOPSIS: Bang is initial history feature, now we can enter editing mode. Or, use history command and grep for desired string.
    • WRANGLER: Gary
    • ABSTRACT: NO
    • BIO: YES
    • REMARKS:
      • May have trouble presenting depending on family medical situation.
      • 

COOKIE TIME ~ ANNOUNCEMENTS ~ CALL FOR HELP (Gooey Middle ):

• MAIN (Enterprise Computing):
  • STATUS: Confirmed
  • WHAT: AMP stack on non-Linux installation
  • BY: Lee Lammert
  • SYNOPSIS: AMP stack on non-Linux installation
  • WRANGLER: Lee
  • ABSTRACT: NO
  • BIO: YES
  • REMARKS:
    • Lee offered this for the LINUX group. Stan and Gary thinks this subject matter would be more appropriate to SLUUG MAIN, since it is NOT Linux specific.
    • 

• MAIN (Enterprise Computing):
  • STATUS: Impossible
  • WHAT: About research utilization of Linux at SLU.
  • BY: Erik Kaufman of St Louis Univ Research
  • SYNOPSIS: About research utilization of Linux at SLU.
  • WRANGLER: Gary
  • ABSTRACT: NO
  • BIO: NO
  • REMARKS:
    • Erik offered possibility in May.
    • Consider Erik possible designated presenter for September, pending negotiation with Scott & Bryce for August.
    • Erik no longer at SLU, has changed jobs and moved.
    • WE WILL REMOVE THIS OFFERING FROM NEXT AGENDA
    • 

• STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
  • VENUE Nick and Elena's Pizzeria, 3007 Woodson Rd, Overland, MO 63114
  • We want to have alternative topic on hand if primary speaker doesn't show.
  • LINUX:
    • STATUS: Confirmed
    • WHAT: Log Rotate and A Caching DNS reolver (two separate)
    • BY: Ken Johnson
    • SYNOPSIS: A brief sketchy summary goes here.
    • WRANGLER: Gary
    • ABSTRACT: NO
    • BIO: YES
    • REMARKS:

—-

• LINUX:
  • STATUS: Possible
  • WHAT: Exact Title To Be Determined (TBD)
  • BY: Michael Carrington of SuSE
  • SYNOPSIS:
    • Ceph is a distributed network file system designed to provide
    • excellent performance, reliability, and scalability. Ceph is
    • such a underutilized and misunderstood concept. I would like
    • to present something like Why Ceph is a skill set that every
    • Unix admin should learn. I can fully bet out the title to be
    • a little more creative. I don’t want to sell SUSE and SUSE
    • Enterprise Storage, but more of convince Unix admins why a Ceph
    • skill set will be worthwhile in acquiring. Thoughts?
  • WRANGLER: Gary
  • ABSTRACT: NO
  • BIO: NO
  • REMARKS: Had to defer from planned October presentation because of travel
  • 
• LINUX:
  • STATUS: Possible
  • WHAT: AMP stack on non-Linux installation
  • BY: Lee Lammert
  • SYNOPSIS: AMP stack on non-Linux installation
  • WRANGLER: Lee
  • ABSTRACT: NO
  • BIO: YES
  • REMARKS:
    • Lee offered this for the LINUX group. Stan and Gary thinks this subject matter would be more appropriate to SLUUG MAIN, since it is NOT Linux specific.
  • 
• LINUX:
  • STATUS: Idea
  • WHAT: Ins and outs of Firewalld
  • BY: Lee
  • SYNOPSIS: Lee has been doing a lot of fixing.
  • WRANGLER: Gary
  • ABSTRACT: NO
  • BIO: YES
  • REMARKS:
• LINUX:
  • STATUS: Idea
  • WHAT: Kubernetes
  • BY: Matt Skipton
  • SYNOPSIS: Kubernetes is an open-source container-orchestration system for automating deployment, scaling and management of containerized applications. It was originally designed by Google and is now maintained by the Cloud Native Computing Foundation.
  • WRANGLER: Lee
  • ABSTRACT: NO
  • BIO: NO
  • REMARKS:
    • Lee spoke with Matt Skipton, might be able to do Kubernetes, but not this month (which month is not this month?)
    • 
• LINUX:
  • STATUS: Idea
  • WHAT: Oracle Linux
  • BY: Volunteer Speaker
  • SYNOPSIS: Oracle Linux is a Linux distribution packaged and freely distributed by Oracle, available partially under the GNU General Public License since late 2006. It is compiled from Red Hat Enterprise Linux source code, replacing Red Hat branding with Oracle's. It is also used by Oracle Cloud and Oracle Engineered Systems such as Oracle Exadata and others.
  • WRANGLER: Gary
  • ABSTRACT: NO
  • BIO: NO
  • REMARKS:
    • Gary spoke on phone to Jeff Logullo of Oracle (our former Sun/Solaris contact) on June 14.
    • Jeff is researching if he can get a talk about Oracle Linux for us.
    • 
• LINUX:
  • STATUS: Idea
  • WHAT: IBM and Red Hat Red Hat
  • BY: Sami Allum of IBM
  • SYNOPSIS: IBM bought Red Hat. What happens now?
  • WRANGLER: Gary
  • ABSTRACT: NO
  • BIO: NO
  • REMARKS:
    • Gary had face-to-face with Sami in April. Chuck talked to him in May?
    • Gary had follow-up face-to-face w George Switzer (309-264-8569, gswitzer@us.ibm.com) of IBM Power Server group. He said Red Hat division
    • is on a "quiet mode" with respect to initiatives within IBM and for now just continuing as before.
    • Acquisition finalized Aug 1 2019, watch for announcement soon
    • Hoping there will be announcements soon.
    • 
• LINUX:
  • STATUS: Idea
  • WHAT: Collect all login session.
  • BY: Joe Bonespel
  • SYNOPSIS: Collect all login session.
  • WRANGLER: Gary
  • ABSTRACT: NO
  • BIO: NO
  • REMARKS:
• LINUX:
  • STATUS: Idea
  • WHAT: Bit coin mining on a Raspberry Pi
  • BY: ????
  • SYNOPSIS: Bit coin mining on a Raspberry Pi
  • WRANGLER: Gary
  • ABSTRACT: NO
  • BIO: NO
  • REMARKS:

• NEWLUG Our Linux Users Group for Linux Newcomers.
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Prairie Commons Branch thru end of year.
  • TOPICS are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one topic.
    • NEWLUG home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which to take off
  • REMARKS: Stan will be out of town. Phil Bunch will likely handle attendance.
    • 

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• SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Thornhill Branch
  • 

• SLUUG General Meeting
  • VENUE To Be Determined (TBD)
    • As a contingency, we have an approved reservation at STL County Daniel Boone Branch (DB) for 13 November.
    • If we do not use, we must cancel by the day prior.
    • Please wait to discuss future locations within the New Location Requirements Business segment.
  • We want to have alternative topic on hand if primary speaker doesn't show.

• BASE (Personal Computing):
  • STATUS: Confirmed
  • WHAT: Something on AWK
  • BY: James Conroy
  • SYNOPSIS: A brief sketchy summary goes here.
  • WRANGLER: Gary
  • ABSTRACT: No
  • BIO: Yes
  • REMARKS:

• BASE (Personal Computing):
  • STATUS: Idea
  • WHAT: To Be Determined (TBD)
  • BY: Volunteer Speaker
  • SYNOPSIS: A brief sketchy summary goes here.
  • WRANGLER:
  • ABSTRACT: No
  • BIO: No
  • REMARKS:

COOKIE TIME ~ ANNOUNCEMENTS ~ CALL FOR HELP (Gooey Middle ):

• MAIN (Enterprise Computing):
  • STATUS: Open
  • WHAT: To Be Determined (TBD)
  • BY: Volunteer Speaker
  • SYNOPSIS: A brief sketchy summary goes here.
  • WRANGLER:
  • ABSTRACT: No
  • BIO: No
  • REMARKS:

• MAIN (Enterprise Computing):
  • STATUS: Tentative Confirmation
  • WHAT: Container Orchestration
  • BY: Matt Skipton, WWT
  • SYNOPSIS: The next step in Containers is to coordinate as many as are needed, discarding instances not required. This concept is called "orchestration", and can handle a few to thousands depending on the requirements of the workload.
  • WRANGLER: Lee
  • ABSTRACT: No
  • BIO: No
  • REMARKS:

• MAIN (Enterprise Computing):
  • STATUS: Possible
  • WHAT: Programmable Gate Arrays vs ASICS vs RealTime Linux
  • BY: Bryce Meyer
  • SYNOPSIS: Using High End Graphic Cards
  • WRANGLER: Gary
  • ABSTRACT: NO
  • BIO: NO
  • REMARKS:
    • Previously scheduled, but not done. Work travel conflicts. Still NO as of September, maybe in October.
    • 

• MAIN (Enterprise Computing):
  • STATUS: Idea
  • WHAT: To Be Determined (TBD)
  • BY: Volunteer Speaker
  • SYNOPSIS: A brief sketchy summary goes here.
  • WRANGLER:
  • ABSTRACT: NO
  • BIO: NO
  • REMARKS:

• STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
  • VENUE Nick and Elena's Pizzeria, 3007 Woodson Rd, Overland, MO 63114
  • We want to have alternative topic on hand if primary speaker doesn't show.

• LINUX:
  • STATUS: Open
  • WHAT: To Be Determined (TBD)
  • BY: Volunteer Speaker
  • SYNOPSIS: A brief sketchy summary goes here.
  • WRANGLER:
  • ABSTRACT: NO
  • BIO: NO
  • REMARKS:

• LINUX:
  • STATUS: Possible
  • WHAT: Exact Title To Be Determined (TBD)
  • BY: Michael Carrington of SuSE
  • SYNOPSIS:
    • Ceph is a distributed network file system designed to provide
    • excellent performance, reliability, and scalability. Ceph is
    • such a underutilized and misunderstood concept. I would like
    • to present something like Why Ceph is a skill set that every
    • Unix admin should learn. I can fully bet out the title to be
    • a little more creative. I don’t want to sell SUSE and SUSE
    • Enterprise Storage, but more of convince Unix admins why a Ceph
    • skill set will be worthwhile in acquiring. Thoughts?
  • WRANGLER: Gary
  • ABSTRACT: NO
  • BIO: NO
  • REMARKS: Had to defer from planned October presentation because of travel
    • 

• LINUX:
  • STATUS: Possible
  • WHAT: Docker Containers
  • BY: Bob Ward
  • SYNOPSIS: Security of Docker Containers
    • I've never trusted Docker containers. Everyone seems to love docker
    • though. They're always all like "Awe, no. Docker's a cool guy. He'll help
    • you move…yada yada yada". I don't buy it. Can't put my finger on it,
    • but Docker's always seemed shifty to me. But does anyone ever listen
    • to me? Nooooo! Meanwhile everyone just let's Docker hang out on their
    • servers, borrow their data and what not. Mark my words, you just let
    • Docker take advantage of you like that, you are just asking for trouble.
    • Alright. All I am asking is that you be careful. Take a few precautions
    • when you are dealing with Docker. Maybe I'm just being my paranoid
    • self but it can't hurt, right? That's where the next STL2600 + DC314
    • meeting comes in. Turn's out Docker is an old frat brother drinking buddy
    • or something of Bob's. Whatever he is, Bob's got a few tips on how to
    • handle Docker and not let it take advantage of you. So just hear him out,
    • and learn how to keep your containers safe and secure.
  • WRANGLER: Gary
  • ABSTRACT: NO
  • BIO: NO
  • REMARKS: Does Legal software. May be willing to do presentation in November
    • Might be able to Wednesday night SLUUG General meeting.
    • 

• NEWLUG Our Linux Users Group for Linux Newcomers.
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Prairie Commons Branch thru end of year.
  • TOPICS are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one topic.
    • NEWLUG home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which to take off

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• SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Thornhill Branch
  • 

• 6:30pm ~ 9:30pm
• 11th Annual StL Area Tech Group Bowling Extravaganza!
• VENUE Moolah Lanes, 3821 Lindell Blvd # 2, St. Louis, MO 63108
• We need to spread the word at each meeting. Free bowling, ping pong, pool. Headhunters.
• Wear Penguin T-shirts.

• SLUUG General Meeting
  • VENUE To Be Determined (TBD)
    • As a contingency, we have an approved reservation at STL County Grand Glaize Branch (GG) for 11 December.
    • If we do not use, we must cancel by the day prior.
    • Please wait to discuss future locations within the New Location Requirements Business segment.
  • We want to have alternative topic on hand if primary speaker doesn't show.

• BASE (Personal Computing):
  • STATUS: Open
  • WHAT: To Be Determined (TBD)
  • BY: Volunteer Speaker
  • SYNOPSIS: A brief sketchy summary goes here.
  • WRANGLER:
  • ABSTRACT: No
  • BIO: No
  • REMARKS:

• BASE (Personal Computing):
  • STATUS: Idea
  • WHAT: To Be Determined (TBD)
  • BY: Volunteer Speaker
  • SYNOPSIS: A brief sketchy summary goes here.
  • WRANGLER:
  • ABSTRACT: No
  • BIO: No
  • REMARKS:

COOKIE TIME ~ ANNOUNCEMENTS ~ CALL FOR HELP (Gooey Middle ):

• MAIN (Enterprise Computing):
  • STATUS: Open
  • WHAT: To Be Determined (TBD)
  • BY: Volunteer Speaker
  • SYNOPSIS: A brief sketchy summary goes here.
  • WRANGLER:
  • ABSTRACT: No
  • BIO: No
  • REMARKS:

• MAIN (Enterprise Computing):
  • STATUS: Confirmed
  • WHAT: Container Orchestration
  • BY: Matt Skiption, WWT ATC
  • SYNOPSIS: The next step in Containers is to coordinate as many as are needed, discarding instances not required. This concept is called "orchestration", and can handle a few to thousands depending on the requirements of the workload.
  • WRANGLER: Lee
  • ABSTRACT: No
  • BIO: No
  • REMARKS:

• NEWLUG Our Linux Users Group for Linux Newcomers.
  • Holiday schedule has this one week earlier than usual.
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Prairie Commons Branch thru end of year.
  • TOPICS are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one topic.
    • NEWLUG home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which to take off

• STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
  • VENUE Nick and Elena's Pizzeria, 3007 Woodson Rd, Overland, MO 63114
  • We want to have alternative topic on hand if primary speaker doesn't show.

• LINUX:
  • STATUS: Open
  • WHAT: To Be Determined (TBD)
  • BY: Volunteer Speaker
  • SYNOPSIS: A brief sketchy summary goes here.
  • WRANGLER:
  • ABSTRACT: NO
  • BIO: NO
  • REMARKS:

• LINUX:
  • STATUS: Idea
  • WHAT: To Be Determined (TBD)
  • BY: Volunteer Speaker
  • SYNOPSIS: A brief sketchy summary goes here.
  • WRANGLER:
  • ABSTRACT: NO
  • BIO: NO
  • REMARKS:

• SUMMARY: We put up a server on the Internet for email, it grew, and now we have to maintain it.

•  Minutes narratives prior to 2019 have been removed. 

• 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
  • Lee Lammert and Mike Knight working on SpamAssassin. Extensive plan developed by Mike Knight.
  • QUESTION (Stan): Do we have to worry about losing ownership of the stllug.org domains?
  • ANSWER
• 2019-02-04
  • Lee: Everything's up and running thanks to Mike. New topic: DCC. What is it? Lee has no clue.
• 2019-03-04
  • Lee: Server is running.
  • ANSWER to previous question re Status of stllug.org: Lee is checking, something looks wonky.
• Lee: Verified this AM, .. stllug.org appears to be forwarding successfully to stllug.sluug.org, which matches the LE cert wildcard. Please check for other issues.
• 2019-04-01
  • Mike's still working on ClamAV, but too timid to pull switch on ClamAV or SpamAssassin.
    • Need consensus that settings are right
• 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
  • Gary would love to get a presentation on status of the servers, featuring Mike, Chuck, Lee
    • One possibility would be to have Andrew St Claire (or someone else) debrief them and give the presentation
  • Another possibility would be Lee could give a presentation on massive data recovery being performed evening of 2019-04-29
  • Dave has noticed different handling of possible spam by SLUUG email system, and would like presentation on evolution of the email system.
  • Dave & Stan would like long 'spammy' tag not inserted into subject line on SLUUG STEERCOM emails
  • From Mike Knight's email 3:31am 2019-04-28:
    • 1 QUESTION: Should the "Subject:" of probable sp_m be changed to indicate that?
      • ANSWER: no
    • 2 QUESTION: Should high scoring sp_m be rejected and returned to sender?
      • ANSWER: no
    • 3 QUESTION: Should moderate scoring sp_m be moved to a "junk" folder of the member's inbox by the system?
      • ANSWER: no
• 2019-06-03
  • Lee: It's running. Updates posted.
• 2019-07-01
  • Lee: no updates this month. ClamAV & SpamAssassin are running, SA is giving scores, but up to user to decide what to do with them.
  • Gary: good that things are running, but would be nice to get a presentation on what is there and what it does. Would be good for everyone to realize what's been done to make things work.
• 2019-08-05
• 2019-08-28
  • Lee will be switching our VM to new hardware in the fall.
• 2019-09-30 (for October)
  • Mike Knight found issues with ClamAV daemon, and memory/swap shortage. System boot seemed to mostly clear up.
  • Lee has Bock virtual instance running on new hardware. Had some trouble transferring large files.
  • Lee upgraded Bock virtual host to 32G memory today.
  • Gary Meyer was not getting STEERCOM email on his Apple/MAC laptop.
  • 

• SUMMARY: Our traditional Internet presence is with our main SLUUG web site.

•  Minutes narratives prior to 2019 have been removed. 

• 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
  • Stan R fixed error that kept website from displaying the ATTENDANCE sheets page.
  • QUESTION: Are there any other broken pages?
• 2019-02-04
  • ANSWER: Not that we know of. There's always one more
  • Stan is aware that there's a problem with top menu of main page, and it's not likely to be fixed in a long time.
• 2019-03-04
• 2019-04-01
• 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
• 2019-06-03
  • Stan: updated flyer is on the handouts page. Old material removed, added page of helpful links for the newcomer.
  • Stan has added a section on the main page with summaries of past meetings. Additional meetings will be added in near future.
• 2019-07-01
• 2019-07-28 Lee: CERT renewed automatically. Performed quarterly
• 2019-08-05
  • The SLUUG web page has been expanded with "…a not-for-profit professional 501c(6) association…" introductory narrative description of our organization.
  • The SLUUG web page Reference section did not have a link to our SLUUG YouTube channel. This has been corrected.
  • All SLUUG web pages were not referencing the other sponsored group web pages. This has been corrected.
  • The NEWLUG sub menu "cdrom" files renamed to menu to match up with replacing DVDs with USB thumb drives and eliminate some confusion. Had to hard link NEWLUG "cdrom.html" to "menu.html" because of existing handout link reference. Hard link should NOT be removed.
  • All SLUUG web page links to defunct "Google+" changed to link to Mailing Lists.
  • The SLUUG web page links to attendance sheets updated.
  • The SLUUG web page links to handouts updated. Removed link to ancient and insufficient "Password Guidelines for Beginners" PDF.
  • The NEWLUG menu reference to "Password Guidelines for Beginners" PDF replaced with link to Creating Strong Passwords .
  • Added new logo with Arch
• 2019-08-28
  • Usual.
• 2019-09-30 (for October)
  • Stan R realized that he had been using newcomer name while posting, despite that it had not been configured.
  • Got assistance from both Lee L and Chuck Doolittle.
  • Chuck found misconfiguration after Stan R had altered and reviewed config file 2 dozen going on 3 dozen times.
  • Stan R is seeing a lot more messages offering to "fix" our sites from hungry contractors.
  • 

• SUMMARY: We have presence on MEETUP.COM.

•  Minutes narratives prior to 2019 have been removed. 

• 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
• 2019-02-04
• 2019-03-04
• 2019-04-01
• 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
  • Procedure of last couple of months is working; i.e. changing the subject line to reflect current meeting flags the Meetup as having changed.
• 2019-06-03
  • Gary mentioned we've been changing the title to get updated on search results. Stan says it's been fixed and now no longer requires title change.
• 2019-07-01
• 2019-08-05
• 2019-08-28
  • Usual.
• 2019-09-30 (for October)
  • Meetup still sucks. Set SLUUG General Meeting sessions to show our contingency library locations until we settle on new venue.
  • 

• 2019-07-01
  • SUMMARY: We need to continuously consider and track alternative meeting locations due to often unforeseen changes.
  • HISTORY: StL County Library locations sometimes available on very short notice.
    • We can always check for available Library spaces.
  • SLUUG General ~ Graybar
  • STLLUG ~ Nick and Elanias
• 2019-08-05
  • SLUUG General ~ Graybar's planned outsourcing of their whole IT department jeopardizes our hosting relationship.
    • We can always check for available Library spaces.
  • Lee: Contacted Charles Sharpe at OCI: offered location near Olive & 270.
  • Possibility: contact WWT (World Wide Technology)
• 2019-08-28
  • SLUUG General ~ Stan R requested Saint Louis County Library reservations at differing locations for Sept, Oct, Nov and Dec.
  • We HAVE to be out of Graybar by October. We would like a corporate environment to promote having a sponsorship.
  • We want to avoid back-to-back between SLUUG and STLLUG meetings.
  • We WILL advertise our desired need of new meeting space on second Wednesday. Gary and Stan will draft message.
  • Gary will check with Centeen about possible room and about parking.
• 2019-09-30 (for October)
  • Need for new SLUUG meeting location announced at SLUUG General and STLLUG meetings.
  • ANNOUNCE and DISCUSS mail message appeal sent to membership to help find new SLUUG meeting location.
  • We have Thornhill Library as contingency backup.
  • We will check out SEIMENS location in Earth City.
  • Talking with Shawn Moore at Douhrty.
  • Talking with C Plus Plus group.
  • Talking with World Wide Technology (WWT), been sponsoring a lot of groups, need contact to sponsor.
  • Talking with ??
  • Search will continue.
  • 

• SUMMARY: Room reservations at Saint Louis County Library Branches are available on each first Saturday of October and April.
• HISTORY: We routinely reserve and pay fees for monthly SIG meetings at various Saint Louis County Library Branches.
  • We can always check for available Library spaces.

•  Minutes narratives prior to 2019 have been removed. 

• 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
• 2019-02-04
  • This becomes important in April.
• 2019-03-04
  • Becomes important in April.
• 2019-04-01
  • It is now April. It's important
  • Stan's complaints:
  • Stan & Phil's notes posted to STEERCOM last week, fill in later
• 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
  • Reservations for SLACC and NEWLUG made and paid.
• 2019-06-03
• 2019-07-01
• 2019-08-05
• 2019-08-28
  • SLUUG General ~ Stan R requested contingency reservations.
  • Reservation approved at STL County Mid-County Branch (MC) for 11 September.
  • Reservation approved at STL County Thornhill Branch (TH) for 9 October.
  • Reservation approved at STL County Daniel Boon Branch (DB) for 13 November.
  • Reservation approved at STL County Grand Glaize Branch (GG) for 11 December.
  • QUESTION: Should we consider making six month reservations (January thru June) for SLUUG General meetings?
  • ANSWER: Yes. Want to get them all at same branch.
• 2019-09-30 (for October)
  • Stan R talked to knowledgeable St Louis County staff member about reservations policies.
  • 

• SUMMARY: Our sponsored Linux special interest group with regular technical presentations.
• HISTORY: We hold these meetings where we can have food and drink.
• STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
  • VENUE Nick and Elena's Pizzeria, 3007 Woodson Rd, Overland, MO 63114
• 2019-06-03
  • Nick & Elena's has new staff who don't know how to use new ordering system for individual orders.
    • Decreasing enthusiasm about splitting bills.
    • problems with interrupting presentations to serve product.
    • Problem finding venue with space and projector.
  • J Greene's have heavy business on Thursday nights
  • Fallon's at Olive & 170 has trivia on Thursday; very crowded
  • Suggestions for other venues are welcome
• 2019-07-01
  • No longer need to seek new location; N&E are doing much better now with new POS system
• 2019-08-05
  • They did call us this month because they were booking a larger party and we had to find alternate location.
  • We were able to use Graybar training room, thanks to Chuck Doolittle.
• 2019-08-28
  • Stay at Nick and Elana's until further notice. Noisy and some members object to location with food.
• 2019-09-30 (for October)
  • 

• SUMMARY: We presume that our single web site isn't enough to draw younger crowd.

•  Minutes narratives prior to 2019 have been removed. 

• 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
• 2019-02-04
• 2019-03-04
• 2019-04-01
• 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
• 2019-06-03
• 2019-07-01
  • Gary: need to get some kind of presence on Slack
  • Lee: not sure we want people who are on Slack. Not connected with actual servers.
• 2019-08-05
• 2019-08-28
  • James Conroy will be posting our meeting announcement on MASTODON for us.
• 2019-09-30 (for October)
  • James Conroy has posted some information and gotten some responses.
  • New and shiny.
  • 

• SUMMARY: We have recorded many of our past meetings and made them available on the Internet.

•  Minutes narratives prior to 2019 have been removed. 

• 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
• 2019-02-04
• 2019-03-04
• 2019-04-01
• 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
• 2019-06-03
• 2019-07-01
  • Don: been thinking about it
  • Gary: Stan's been thinking about it
• 2019-08-05
  • Stan has uploaded 3 recordings. 1.5hr to render (with pitivi), 1.5hr to upload, 15min processing at other end. Net: 3+ hrs to send up recording.
  • Don was to Contact Stephen Pidgeon pidgeon [dot] stephen [at] gmail [dot] com, who is interested in helping with videos.
• 2019-08-28
  • Don really really committed to getting with Stephen Pidgeon to start uploading stuff.
• 2019-09-30 (for October)
  • Steve Pidgen has been doing something with cameras.
  • 

• SUMMARY: We try to record many of our meetings.

•  Minutes narratives prior to 2019 have been removed. 

• 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
• 2019-02-04
• 2019-03-04
  • Don went to Schiller's & got camera, passed to Stan
• 2019-04-01
  • Don will go to Schiller's and check another camera
• 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
• 2019-06-03
  • Stan reports having problems with tripod stability. Handheld most of session.
• 2019-07-01
  • Don is in discussion with Stan regarding tripod operation.
  • Don still hasn't billed for camera acquisition
  • Don plans to acquire another camera system
• 2019-08-05
• 2019-08-28
  • Don acquired another camera system and submitted bill.
• 2019-09-30 (for October)
  • Don tested camera 2.
  • 

• SUMMARY: We seek financial support from the tech community.
• HISTORY: We are not good at getting sponsors.

•  Minutes narratives prior to 2019 have been removed. 

• 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
• 2019-02-04
• 2019-03-04
• 2019-04-01
• 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
• 2019-06-03
• 2019-07-01
• 2019-08-05
• 2019-08-28
• 2019-09-30 (for October)
  • 

• SUMMARY: The ANNOUNCE mailing is a weekly extract of our SLUUG GOOGLE Calendar of Events. Historical descendant of our monthly newsletter. Previous editors have also styled it less of 1 liners of entire calendar and more of abstracts of OUR talks & outstanding interest items.
• HISTORY: The subscriber list has been populated from attendance sheets by a nominating subscription process, which requires human input.

•  Minutes narratives prior to 2019 have been removed. 

• 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
• 2019-02-04
  • Scraping info from calendar into weekly ANNOUNCE; send ANNOUNCE to Meetup email address
    • Would not work because of MEETUP.COM message size limitation.
  • QUESTION: Would someone else (besides Stan R) take on generating the weekly ANNOUNCE mailing?
• 2019-03-04
• 2019-04-01
• 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
• 2019-06-03
  • Stan: numbers keep going down
• 2019-07-01
  • Gary: need a new editor. Stan stopped doing it earlier this year, only sending out occasionally
    • Trying to get someone to take over, unless a weekly announcement is no longer necessary
• 2019-08-05
• 2019-08-28 Stan thinks we should spend less time displaying our Google calendar and show off our mailing list archives so as to encourage attendees to sign up during meetings. Relying on hand written adresses added to attendance sheets not super positive.
• 2019-09-30 (for October)
  • 

• SUMMARY: We have informational handout PDFs available http://www.sluug.org/resources/handouts/.
• HISTORY: The PDFs are generated with LibreOffice. The originating files are stored along with generated PDFs.

•  Minutes narratives prior to 2019 have been removed. 

• 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
• 2019-02-04
  • Linux User Group Name on the Beginner Handout will be changed from Hazelwood to Newcomer by Stan R..
• 2019-03-04
• 2019-04-01
• 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
• 2019-06-03
  • Stan R has updated the Linux4Beginners.pdf handout, updating LUG name and making major revisions.
  • The following is a test!
  • TEST:
  • Does anyone NOT KNOW where to get our handouts, so that they could print and fold them?
  • Does anyone KNOW where to get our handouts, so that they could print and fold them?
  • QUESTION: Would someone else (besides Stan R) take on printing and maintaining an inventory of our brochures?
• 2019-07-01
  • Lee's new printer is much more easy to use when printing our handouts.
  • Lee has printed about ~25 new Learn to use the VIM test editor pdf version 2.3 handouts for Stan. Half given to Carol Peters after BASE June tutorial.
  • Lee has printed about ~50 new Linux4Beginners.pdf versions 6.0 thru 6.4 handouts for Stan.
  • Lee has printed about ~25 new Why Use Linux pdf version 3.0 handouts for Stan.
  • Stan R made multiple updates to the Linux4Beginners.pdf handout. Latest version is now at 6.6.
• 2019-08-05
  • Stan R made another update to the Linux4Beginners.pdf handout. Latest version is now at 7.0.
• 2019-08-28
• 2019-09-30 (for October)
  • 

•  Minutes narratives prior to 2019 have been removed. 

• 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
• 2019-02-04
• 2019-03-04
  • Lee: Andrew is making some. Seen on StlTech.
• 2019-04-01
• 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
• 2019-06-03
• 2019-07-01
• 2019-08-05
• 2019-08-28
• 2019-09-30 (for October)
  • 

• SUMMARY: We don't have enough volunteers to do everything consistently.
  • We need new members who want to do stuff. Same as every month.
  • QUESTION: Any new volunteers to help?

•  Minutes narratives prior to 2019 have been removed. 

• 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
• 2019-02-04
• 2019-03-04
  • QUESTION: Any new volunteers to help?
• 2019-04-01
• 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
• 2019-06-03
• 2019-07-01
• 2019-08-05
• 2019-08-28
  • James Conroy and Stephen Pidgeon are notable new assets.
• 2019-09-30 (for October)
  • 

• 2019-09-30 (for October)
  • Current STLLUG Chairman Chuck Doolittle has/is left/leaving town.
  • Should make members aware of vacancy at next meetings.
  • QUESTION: If no volunteer from next meetings, should we do help wanted format with a job description?
  • QUESTION: Maybe even post to ANNOUNCE/DISCUSS mailing lists.
  • 

• 2019-09-30 (for October)
  • 

• SUMMARY: When anybody does something to help!
  • QUESTION: Did anyone do anything helpful?
• 2019-09-30 (for October)
  • Thanks to Lee for approaching WWT, James C. , Stan R and other crazy dudes.

• SUMMARY: Food for thought ~ anything not previously covered that provides mental stimulus for thinking about improvements or problems.
  • Some ideas are Off-The-Record ~ NOT TO BE RECORDED!
  • Some ideas should be publicized.~ SHOULD BE RECORDED!
  • If a speaker believes something should not be recorded, the record operator needs to be notified.
  • Each speaker should initially declare whether an idea should be recorded or not.
  • Each speaker should initially declare whether GPS location should be recorded or not. (Stan R asks what the fsck is this line about?)
• 2019-09-30 (for October)
  • 

• SUMMARY: We routinely rotate thru the following:
• October 2019 - First Saturday, reserve rooms at St. Louis County Library Branches.
• October 2019 ~ Post Office Box Renewal ~ Lee will handle.
• November 2019 - *automated* LetsEncrypt free SSL certificates for websites on BOCK.
• December 2019 - STLWEBDEV.ORG is domain automatic renewal?
• January 2020 - STLLINUX.ORG domain automatic renewal.
• February 2020 - SLUUG Annual Board meeting and elections.
  • Verify renewal of certs with LetsEncrypt
• March 2020 - Count Ballots
• April 2020 - First Saturday, reserve rooms at St. Louis County Library Branches.
• April 2020 - IRS Form 990-N for Tax Exempt Status. e-postcard.
• June 2020 - BuddyNS SLUUG account due
• June 2020 - Missouri Annual Report for Corporate Legal Status due.
  • https://bsd.sos.mo.gov/BusinessEntity/BusinessEntityDetail.aspx?page=beSearch&ID=681250
• July 2020 - SLUUG.ORG domain is domain automatic renewal? Is it with Dotster?
  • ANSWER: July 2019 was "Yes it is automatic and is with Dotster".

• Everyone - Review the STEERCOM minutes, make corrections, act!
• Everyone - Talk to someone about coming to meetings.
• Everyone - Talk to someone about giving a presentation.
• Everyone - Talk to all members about December Party.
• Don Ellis - upload older videos to Google Photos and/or Google Docs & publish links
• Gary Meyer - Build spreadsheet to track domain name registrations. See http://bgp.he.net/ip/207.223.253.71#_dns
• Gary Meyer - Did not follow up with Noel about transferring the SLACC.COM domain to us.
  • SLACC.COM is now in use by someone else.
  • SLACC.ORG could be registered. SLACC.ORG available for sale ~ only $499
• Lee Lammert - Reminder: If anyone needs SLUUG critical info, it's stored on BOCK /home/SLUUG
• Stan R. ~ Remind Gary Meyer to bring Penguins to meetings and hand out pamphlets.
• Stan and Gary should get together and discuss how ANNOUNCE was done
• Next March or April 2020:
  • schedule workshops for July and August 2020
• Possible presentation - suggested 11/7/18
  • Apple interfaces and accessories for audio & video (by Don)

• Monday, September 30th, 2019
  • QUESTION: When was meeting adjourned?
• 2019-09-30 (for October)
  • Time: 8:27pm