NOTE: Minutes posted on the Wiki are always unofficial. Schedules for upcoming presentations are always tentative. (Some more tentative than others!)

• No physical meeting until further notice
  • When we again have physical meetings, we would like to continue video meetings in conjunction with physical meetings.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • ZOOM

SUMMARY: This is where we consider any additions, changes, deletions, sequence changes, or other changes to items in the prepared agenda.

  * HISTORY: 
  * We can consider changes prior to all reviews, planning and OLD BUSINESS items.
    * By jumping ahead, then back, without altering agenda layout sequence.
  * Do NOT alter agenda layout sequence, during current meeting.
  * Moving a listed item out of sequence makes later editing difficult.
  * 
  * We can jump to **Old Business** items, consider, then back to usual sequence.
  * We can jump to **New Business** section, create new item, consider, then jump back to usual sequence.
  * By NOT altering agenda layout sequence during the meeting, that will keep it easier to build the next agenda.

• AGENDA CHANGE:
• QUESTION: Are there any additions, deletions, or other changes to sequence of items in the prepared agenda?
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • We can expect Ed Howland to be here. He would like to first talk a little bit about a BASE presentation he is offering to do in January 2024.
  • SLUUG - Jan 10th, 2024 ~ BASE Confirmed History of the Shell by Ed Howland
  • Ed interviewed Gary regarding his use of computers. CDC, Honeywell GeCOS Operating System ( grandfather of UNIX ),
  • Multix was supposted to surplant GeCOS, then VAX machine clusters, migrating to

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• QUESTION: Have the recorders been started ( they should be, before call to order )?
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • Yes

• QUESTION: When was STEERCOM meeting called to order?
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • Monday, November 4th, 2023
  • TIME:

Listed alphabetically by last name:

* James Conroy

* Jonathan Drews

* David Forrest

* Ed Howland

* Ken Johnson

* Lee Lammert

* Gary Meyer

* Stan Reichardt

* Steve Stegmann

* Sean Twiehaus

SUMMARY: Somebody has to build the agenda and then record the minutes.

• The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
• 2023-01-09 Comments: Stan R acting only as recording secretary.
• 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Stan R acting only as recording secretary. Gary nominated Stan R for an Academy Award
• 2023-02-27 Comments for March:: Stan R acting only as recording secretary.
• 2023-04-03 Comments: Stan R acting only as recording secretary.
• 2023-05-01 Comments: Stan R acting only as recording secretary.
• 2023-06-05 Comments: Stan R acting only as recording Secretary. Sean offered but Stan declined.
• 2023-06-26 Comments for July:
  • Stan R would like Sean T to act as recording Secretary ( if present and he still would ).
  • Sean T not here, so Stan R. will act.
• 2023-07-31 Comments for August: Stan R acting only as recording Secretary.
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September:
  • Stan R would like Sean T to act as recording Secretary ( if present and he still would ).
  • Sean T not here, so Stan R. will act.
• 2023-10-02 Comments:
  • Stan R would like Sean T to act as recording Secretary ( if present and he still would ).
  • Sean T not here, so Stan R. will act.
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November:
  • Stan R would like Sean T to act as recording Secretary ( if present and he still would ).
  • Sean T not here, so Stan R. will act.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • Stan R would like Sean T to act as recording Secretary ( if present and he still would ).
  • Future Event Stan R gets run over by a truck.
  • Stan will Do tonight.

• 2023-10-30 Comments for November: None
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • 

SUMMARY: We maintain a calendar of technical events in the Greater St. Louis area and surrounding regions.

  * HISTORY: 
  * Not all events are official/sponsored SLUUG events. All sponsored events are shown in red.
  * Items have been added and corrected by Stan R, Gary Meyer and Don Ellis.
  * Items listed on this calendar were used to feed the ANNOUNCE weekly mailing.
  * Events on HIATUS are NOT counted! Historical items are NOT counted!  
  * Only face-to-face meetings were counted!
  * Detailed breakdown showing cancelled, defunct, delayed, missed, moved, and postponed meetings was being done.
  * The page has been altered to allow showing separate displays of supported meetings from sponsored meetings.
  * Stan R has discontinued doing detailed breakdown of calendar entries believing it is too much effort for too little value.

• SLUUG Calendar is a Google Calendar available on our web site.
• Count of number of events listed, each month, as of end of November 2023:

  * LEGEND:
  * Greyed out areas indicate corrections or never previously reported counts.
  * xxx - numbers not recorded.
  * ??? - Future Numbers.
  * Stopped counting general Saint Louis County Library events in May 2016.
  * Re-counted April 2016 without library events.
  * Count of calendar entries for May is down from previous months. No explanation is given.
  * Count of calendar entries for March 2020 misleading because of 
  * Limited maintenance effort for March 2020 because CORONAVIRUS-19 self-isolation effects.
  * Started counting **moved** and **delayed** items in April 2020 as considered being useful.
  * Improvements in Google Calendar feature limits to five days processing at at time, takes
    * about 10 times as long to perform counting. Much more tedious.
  * Five day limitation "improvement" gone, no longer takes so much longer to count.

• ISSUES:
• Originally only local STL face-to-face meetings were counted. Started adding remote meetings.

• The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
• 2023-01-09 Comments:
  • Of the 238 total, 1 were cancelled, 43 (x~), 0 defunct, 7 delayed, 1 missed, and 4 moved, and 0 postponed; so, leaving 182 active.
• 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Delayed
• 2023-02-27 Comments for March: Delayed
• 2023-04-03 Comments: The calendar counts are on Stan R's machine that is currently NOT functioning ( to be repaired ).
• 2023-05-01 Comments:
  • Stan R's machine miraculously came back to life and some previous count extracts can be recovered.
  • Now he has to locate those files, or rebuild them from scratch.
• 2023-06-05 Comments: Will post monthly totals later.
• 2023-06-26 Comments for July:
  • Delayed total counts are now listed.
  • Stan R has discontinued doing detailed breakdown of calendar entries believing it is too much effort with too little value.
  • Stan R has split the GOOGLE calendar page display to allow separate displays of supported from display of sponsored meetings.
  • Stan R and Gary M are designating supported and sponsored meetings as time and effort permits during creation and editing.
  • Too early to do total count for the June calendar report. Will add June count after month is over.
• 2023-07-31 Comments for August:
  • Due to weekend power outage Stan R didn't get most recent months; but, have listed from first of year. Did not do June and July, yet.
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Somebody does good work. Gary entries, Stan just corrects them.
• 2023-10-02 Comments: None
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November:
  • Forgot to do September numbers last meeting.
  • Forgot to do October also.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • Went back to get counts for September and October.
  • We found that Google changed the functions of the calendar display.
  • Google Calendar used to have an AGENDA listing feature, now replaced with more limited SCHEDULE feature.
  • We do not get same level of detail from SCHEDULE display that we used for scraping events for counting.
  • Counts from September onward seemed to be low compared to previous methods.
  • There is a way to ask for detail; but, not as of yet sure that it is giving good results.
  • Went back to August, only got 112 compared to previous method result of 300.
  • Went back to July, only got 108 compared to previous method result of 299.
  • Our ongoing cleaning up and removing of listings for defunct events may be reason for the significant change.
  • We never kept the files used from previous counting, so we are unable to determine how results have changed.
  • The new method counts all day events and events with a specific time, not historical entries.
  • So, we are now only counting events, not overall effort made while putting information on the calendar.
  • Future Event Stan R gets run over by a truck.

SUMMARY: Mailing List Report combined with MEETUP membership count, now called Subscriber Report.

  * HISTORY: 
  * We counted how many were on each SLUUG mailing list, then started using MEETUP dot COM site. 
  * These numbers roughly estimate size of our community over time. Both growth and shrinkage.

• Subscriber numbers (approximate) as of end of November 2023:

  * LEGEND:
  * Numbers as of end of each month.
  * Blocking of mailing list attachments not completely configured yet.
  * This will be much easier to do on BOCK.
  * ANNOUNCE mailing list.
    * Still no volunteer editor to do a quarterly or monthly newsletter.
  * Command used to generate these (as root on Bud):
    * /usr/local/mailman/bin/list_members **list_name** | wc -l (This doesn't seem to work on Bock.)
  * Greyed out areas indicate corrections or never previously reported counts.
  * xxx - numbers not recorded.
  * ??? - Future Numbers.

• ISSUES:
• We do NOT have any account access or control to our presence and videos on Google+ or YouTube.
• We do NOT know how or what to count in Google+ NOR do we know how to metric videos.
• We do NOT know how or what to count in YouTube NOR do we know how to metric videos.
• No way to change meeting dates or set temporary hiatus in Google+
• Don was to investigate Google+ status
• Don was to place credentials for YouTube and any others on Bock /home/sluug
• The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
• 2023-01-09 Comments: None
• 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Gary noticed St Louis IBM Meetup group went out of existence over last two months time. Last thing they did was presentation for SLUUG on replacing Centose in Fall of 2021.
• 2023-02-27 Comments for March:: None
• 2023-04-03 Comments: None
• 2023-05-01 Comments: None
• 2023-06-05 Comments: Will post later.
• 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Too early to do counts for the June subscriber report. Will add June counts after month is over.
• 2023-07-31 Comments for August:
  • Due to weekend power outage Stan R didn't get most resent months; but, have listed from first of year. Did not do June and July, yet.
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September:
  • Stan R has put in numbers for June, July and August.
  • Stan R added Gary M's alternate email address to STEERCOM and SYSADM lists.
  • Stan R thinks MEETUP dot COM monthly increases are mostly phony.
• 2023-10-02 Comments: None
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November:
  • Forgot to do September numbers last meeting.
  • Stan R purged more than 75 names from MEETUP ( unrecognized, likely never attended any meetings ) to keep total well below 1000.
  • Gary made sexist remark.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • Future Event Stan R gets run over by a truck.

SUMMARY: Somewhat reflects the community interest in topics. Or, how well we publicised event.

  * HISTORY: 
  * Initial mail list subscriptions were prompted by attendance sheets.
  * Group leaders are responsible for taking attendance at face-to-face meetings.
  * Remote session attendance display with ZOOM does NOT work automatically.
  * Remote session attendance done best using extra recording with Linux SimpleScreenRecorder software. 

• Blank attendance sheets are available here
• Attendance numbers, as of end of November 2023:

Proposed layout for next year, without parenthases.

  * LEGEND:
  * Greyed out areas indicate corrections or never previously reported counts.
  * xx - numbers not yet recorded, attendance not taken, or sheet missing.
  * ?? - Future Numbers.
  *(9) - Number in parentheses is head count. Use head count if greater than attendance sheet count (or sheet missing).
  * *  - sLUGs was STL Linux Users Group for Seniors with initial meeting 8 February 2015. Discontinued October 2017.
  * *  - SNUG SuSe was STL Novell Users Group with lunch meeting.  Discontinued December 2017.
  * -  - dash indicates no meeting (NEWLUG March 2020).

• ISSUES:
• Remote ZOOM sessions do not provide record of attendance. Currently done by Stan R with separate video recording.
• The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
• 2023-01-09 Comments: None
• 2023-01-30 Comments for February: None
• 2023-02-27 Comments for March:: None
• 2023-04-03 Comments:
  • The SimpleScreenRecorder SLUUG recording is on Stan R's machine that is currently NOT functioning ( to be repaired ).
• 2023-05-01 Comments:
  • Stan R machine miraculously came back to life and some lost March recordings were recovered ( with STLLINUX count ).
• 2023-06-05 Comments: SLACC attendance up slightly and NEWLINUX attendance a bit lower.
• 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Too early to do count for the NEWLINUX attendance. NEWLINUX meeting is tomorrow.
• 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Steady attendance numbers, kind of same each month.
• 2023-10-02 Comments: September numbers in prior years similar; so, the topic not necessarily reason for low attendance.
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November: None
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • Since there is no longer a sign-in sheet difference from actual head count, Stan R would like to remove parentheses that surround numbers.
  • Stan R uses a separate connection ( named Anonymous Coward ) to record virtual meeting attendance. Nobody else is doing this.
  • Stan R records meeting attendance in a LibreOffice Database and makes it available from the Steering Committee webpage
  • Nobody else is recording the attendance or even seems to be looking at that ATTENDANCE database.
  • Future Event Stan R gets run over by a truck.
  • Gary does screen shots, giving some kind of attendance.

SUMMARY: We try to analyse what happened or what was presented at the previous months meetings.

• SLACC
  • First Thursday of each month. Free formant no presentation. Always up to attendance as what is covered.
  • Usually no presentation; so, held as a Configuration Workshop offering installation and configuration help.
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None
• 2023-10-02 Comments: Phil might be out town again. Will be using bookend slides again.
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Made a bookends slide-work for this Configuration Workshop meeting. Bookends are good for ensuring Announcements get out.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • 

• SLUUG General Meeting
• Planning Schedule Report
• Second Wednesday of the month.
• BASE (Personal Computing):
  • STATUS: Done
  • WHAT: script recording
  • BY: Stan Reichardt
  • SYNOPSIS: NA
  • WRANGLER: Stan
  • ABSTRACT: YES
  • BIO: YES
• REMARKS:
  • We did not have an alternative ( secondary ) topic on hand.
  • August SLUUG BASE was VIM Side by Side by Stan Reichrdt
  • September SLUUG BASE was How to get started in emacs by Steve Stegmann
  • October SLUUG BASE was Pi-Hole by James Conroy
• 2023-06-26 Comments for July: None
• 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Future idea: Changes in Web Applications by Dave Forrest
• 2023-10-02 Comments: Will be doing on RaspberPi 4, can do with older. Doesn't need anything newer.
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November:
  • Stan has a number of slides ready. Will cover unfinished features in demo.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • Ed and Gary thought it was really good.
  • We need more of the same.
  • Gary wants a 20 question interview with Phil Bunch.

COOKIE TIME ~ ANNOUNCEMENTS ~ CALL FOR HELP (Gooey Middle):

• SLUUG General Meeting
• Planning Schedule Report
• Second Wednesday of the month.
• MAIN (Professional Computing):
  • STATUS: Done
  • WHAT: Microsoft Windows Subsystem for Android
  • BY: Jon Newbold
  • SYNOPSIS: NA
  • WRANGLER: Gary
  • ABSTRACT: YES
  • BIO: YES
  • REMARKS:
    • We did not have an alternative ( secondary ) topic on hand.
    • August SLUUG MAIN was Hot Restore of a MySQL database By Lee Lammert
    • September SLUUG MAIN was Microsoft's Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2) by Jon Newbolt
    • October SLUUG MAIN was Risc-V Architecture by Carl Perry
• 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Nothing yet. Johnathan Drews trying to line something up about a game developer.
• 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None
• 2023-10-02 Comments: None.
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November:
  • Jon Newbold had to reschedule to 8 November due to work travel requirement. A Great Disturbance in the Force.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • Material was quite interesting, seemed to be more background that we never got to.
  • Ed suggests an actual developer of the subsysems might provide better responses to us.
  • Shawn thought kind of boaring subject matter, not supprising as of content.

• STLLINUX is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
• Planning Schedule Report
  • Eight days after SLUUG MAIN General Meeting.
• LINUX
  • STATUS: Done
  • WHAT: Transport Layer Security ( TLS )
  • BY: Michael Lucas
  • SYNOPSIS: NO
  • WRANGLER: Jonathan Drews
  • ABSTRACT: YES
  • BIO: YES
  • REMARKS:
    • We did not have an alternative (secondary) topic on hand.
    • August STLLINUX was nushell by Ed Howland and Robert Citek
    • September STLLINUX was Podman Desktop by Chris Bowland of RedHat
    • October STLLINUX was A Mix of Tech Topics by Ken Johnson
• 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Not yet confirmed; but, considering (1) CentOS Stream (2) Redhat Podman (management for Docker).
• 2023-10-02 Comments: Better NOT to have a speaker back-to-back, one meeting immediately right after another.
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November:
  • Gary expects to dun Michael Lucas for abstract and bio very soon now..
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • Stan R screwed up instructions sent out on DISCUSS, ANNOUNCE and posted to website. Had previous month's link.
  • Stan R was too busy with billboards, did not go back and correct the instructions by either new email, nor website changes.
  • One of the participants ( don't know who ) kept open a connection to the old link and redirected people to the correct link.
  • Shawn thought speaker quite engaging.

SUMMARY: Previously named Hazelwood LUG (HZWLUG), then Newcomer LUG (NEWLUG). Now, Newcomer Linux User Group is designated as NEWLINUX. The NEWLINUX home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which we could start. Usually no presentation; so, held as a Beginner Workshop offering installation and configuration help. Topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover way more than one topic.

• NEWLUG was how we named our Linux Users Group (LUG) for Linux Newcomers.
  • NEWLINUX is name that we can frequently use for our Newcomer Linux Users Group.
  • Fourth Tuesday of the month.
  • Free format, no presentation. Always up to attendance as to what is covered.
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None
• 2023-10-02 Comments: None.
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November: None
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • Had prepared two new topic slides to encourage active participation beyond Beginner Workshop call-for-help.
    • Topic slide about Using Ventoy *
    • Topic slide about Remote Support Tools *
  • Actual meeting announcements included Volunteer for BOCK Debian Upgrade item.
  • We had 4 novice attendees that found us on MEETUP. Also, had 3 or 4 relatively new returning attendees.
  • A number of users were randomly dropped and had to reconnect. Possibly bandwidth issue with public JITSI server.
  • Both my Stan R connection and the Anonymous Coward sessions were each disconnected at one time.
  • Had some help from Phil Bunch. Had informative software demonstrations from participant Ron BC.
  • Later review of the recording indicated sharing of prepared billboard slides would have been more informative.
  • 

SUMMARY: This is where we discuss available and confirmed meeting topics. GOAL: To map out meeting topics for as much as 3 months out.

• No physical face-to-face meetings until further notice.
• When we again have physical meetings, we would like to continue video meetings in conjunction with any physical meetings.
• We try to track prospects to give presentations at our SLUUG General (SLUUG) meeting and LINUX (STLLINUX) meetings.
• We try to segregate topic types as either BASE, MAIN or LINUX, with BASE and MAIN given at the General meeting (SLUUG).
• BASE topics should be oriented toward simpler Personal Computing. Usually given at General meeting (SLUUG).
• Short is good. Something fundamental, introductory, instructive or simple.
• MAIN topics should be oriented more toward advanced or Professional Computing. Usually given at General meeting (SLUUG).
• Something more advanced, detailed, important, profound, new, significant, timely or useful.
• LINUX topics often could be either at the General meeting or at the St. Louis Linux Users Group (STLLINUX) meetings.
• We want to have alternative (secondary) topic on hand if primary speaker doesn't show.
• Gary will continue to explore different computer manufacturers (ex: Cray) who might be able to do presentation "Where are they now?"

• The Monday prior to SLUUG General meeting.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • 

• SLACC
  • First Thursday of each month. Free format, no presentation. Always up to attendance as what is covered.
  • Usually no presentation; so, held as a Configuration Workshop offering installation and configuration help.
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None
• 2023-10-02 Comments: Phil might be out town again. Will be using bookend slides again.
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Had one new person by way of MEETUP. Stan R fumbled the recording again.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • 

• SLUUG General Meeting
• Planning Schedule Report
• Second Wednesday of the month.
• BASE (Personal Computing):
  • STATUS: Available
  • WHAT: To Be Determined
  • BY: Unknown
  • SYNOPSIS: NA
  • WRANGLER: NA
  • ABSTRACT:
  • BIO: NA
• REMARKS:
  • We did not have an alternative ( secondary ) topic on hand.
  • August SLUUG BASE was VIM Side by Side by Stan Reichrdt
  • September SLUUG BASE was How to get started in emacs by Steve Stegmann
  • October SLUUG BASE was Pi-Hole by James Conroy
  • November SLUUG BASE was script recording by Stan Reichardt
• 2023-06-26 Comments for July: None
• 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Future idea: Changes in Web Applications by Dave Forrest
• 2023-10-02 Comments: Will be doing on RaspberPi 4, can do with older. Doesn't need anything newer.
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Stan has a number of slides ready. Will cover unfinished features in demo.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • Stan R will be out of town during the SLUUG meeting on 13 December 2023.
  • Not sure if he will be able to attend remotely, and may not be able to record with SimpleScreenRecorder to track attendance.
  • 

COOKIE TIME ~ ANNOUNCEMENTS ~ CALL FOR HELP (Gooey Middle):

• SLUUG General Meeting
• Planning Schedule Report
• Second Wednesday of the month.
• MAIN (Professional Computing):
  • STATUS: Available
  • WHAT: ASCII Cinema
  • BY: Shawn Twiehaus
  • SYNOPSIS: NA
  • WRANGLER: NA
  • ABSTRACT: NA
  • BIO: NA
  • REMARKS:
    • We did not have an alternative ( secondary ) topic on hand.
    • August SLUUG MAIN was Hot Restore of a MySQL database By Lee Lammert
    • September SLUUG MAIN was Microsoft's Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2) by Jon Newbolt
    • October SLUUG MAIN was Risc-V Architecture by Carl Perry
    • November SLUUG MAIN was Microsoft Windows Subsystem for Android by Jon Newbold, Microsoft
• 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Nothing yet. Johnathan Drews trying to line something up about a game developer.
• 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None
• 2023-10-02 Comments: None.
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Jon Newbold had to reschedule to 8 November due to work travel requirement. A Great Disturbance in the Force.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • Stan R will be out of town during the SLUUG meeting on 13 December 2023.
  • Not sure if he will be able to attend remotely, and may not be able to record with SimpleScreenRecorder to track attendance.
  • Steve Stegmann will also try recording.

• STLLINUX is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
• Planning Schedule Report
  • Eight days after SLUUG MAIN General Meeting.
• LINUX
  • STATUS: Available
  • WHAT: ZFS and Ubuntu
  • BY: Shawn T.
  • SYNOPSIS: NA
  • WRANGLER: NA
  • ABSTRACT: NA
  • BIO: NA
  • REMARKS:
    • We did not have an alternative (secondary) topic on hand.
    • August STLLINUX was nushell by Ed Howland and Robert Citek
    • September STLLINUX was Podman Desktop by Chris Bowland of RedHat
    • October STLLINUX was A Mix of Tech Topics by Ken Johnson
    • November STLLINUX was Transport Layer Security ( TLS ) by Michael Lucas
• 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Not yet confirmed; but, considering (1) CentOS Stream (2) Redhat Podman (management for Docker).
• 2023-10-02 Comments: Better NOT to have a speaker back-to-back, one meeting immediately right after another.
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Gary expects to dun Michael Lucas for abstract and bio very soon now..
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • 

SUMMARY: Previously named Hazelwood LUG (HZWLUG), then Newcomer LUG (NEWLUG). Now, Newcomer Linux User Group is designated as NEWLINUX. The NEWLINUX home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which we could start. Usually no presentation; so, held as a Beginner Workshop offering installation and configuration help. Topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover way more than one topic.

• NEWLUG was how we named our Linux Users Group (LUG) for Linux Newcomers.
  • NEWLINUX is name that we can frequently use for our Newcomer Linux Users Group.
  • Fourth Tuesday of the month.
  • Free format, no presentation. Always up to attendance as to what is covered.
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None
• 2023-10-02 Comments: None.
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November:
  • Again had some difficulty and delay opening up public JITSI session. Also there were frequent drop outs during meeting.
  • Made a bookends slide-work for this Beginner Workshop meeting. Bookends working somewhat well with Announcements and main topic of Remote Support.
  • Gary went to private home site to assist a low expertise Linux user. The user was running Linux Mint 19 that was getting End-of-Support notifications.
  • One new attendee later wrote that he was having some unreproducible problem signing up for ANNOUNCE mailing list. Sent him signup nomination.
  • Two, and possibly four new attendees ( not sure, because they only would put in first names ).
  • Because Gary was providing on site assistance, he wasn't keeping watch on chat room activity.
  • Phil B helped a little bit with chat; but, looking at the recording later, a lot of chat postings seemed to have been missed.
  • Frequent attendees Wayne S and Tony C were very helpful with lots of input during the meeting.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • 

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• Usually the Monday, a week prior to SLUUG General meeting.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • When should we do January STEERCOM meeting because of MONDAY New Year Day Holiday?
  • Tuesday, 2nd of January.

   BASE Confirmed **History of the Shell** by Ed Howland

SUMMARY: We put up a server on the Internet for email, it grew, and now we have to maintain it.

• The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
• 2023-01-09 Comments: DNS zone transfers broken right now. Investigating. Everything else working fine.
• 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Running fine. No rush to go to Debian 11.
• 2023-02-27 Comments for March::
  • Removed comments prior to January 2023.
  • Running fine. BOCK is a virtual machine. Host will be updated some time in March.
• 2023-04-03 Comments:
  • Running. Kernel update brought down for just 5 to 10 minutes. No complaints.
  • Mike Knight found 4.4 Gb of data that Stan R had temporarily hosted for BUGLug.
• 2023-05-01 Comments: Still running. Expect to upgrade from Debian 10 to 11 sometime this year.
• 2023-06-05 Comments: Seems to be working ( many thanks to maintenance script written by Mike Knight ).
• 2023-06-26 Comments for July:

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• 2023-07-31 Comments for August: We need to post to DISCUSS about a project to upgrade BOCK.
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Biggest concern on BOCK upgrade is around MAILMAN.
• 2023-10-02 Comments: Planning to move from Debian 10 to Debian 11. Emcee should ask for volunteers.
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November:
  • Mike Knight has been doing considerable research on mail problems.
  • We still need to consider mailman versions available for Debian 11 or 12.
  • We need to improve publicity for volunteer for transition to Debian.
  • Gary suggests not doing December (too encumbered) to do transition, maybe January or February.
  • Need to decide whether to do live upgrade session during MAIN or STLLINUX meeting.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • Lee has tweeked Postfix problems.
  • Mike Knight solves some email problems, set up DEMARK and some paramaters that help with the mailing lists..

SUMMARY: We have a traditional Internet presence with the existence of our main SLUUG web site.

• The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
• 2023-01-09 Comments: Mike Knight posted about broken and missing links. That prompted Stan R to make some corrections ( not all yet ).
• 2023-01-30 Comments for February:
  • Some discussion about making STLLINUX site more resemble SLUUG front page.
  • Consensus that it would be good idea and should clean up some Google Lighthouse complaints.
• 2023-02-27 Comments for March::
  • Mike Knight posted remarking that we frequently state in many places NO PHYSICAL MEETINGS until further notice.
  • His question is "Should they just state NO PHYSICAL MEETINGS.
  • Or is there a plan for future real face-to-face meetings, and thus the hope for a "further notice"?
  • Per Stan R there are no plans for future face-to-face SLACC and NEWLINUX meetings.
  • Per Lee Nic-N-Elana's restaurant going strong ( old site ).
  • We will leave narrative, so there is some hope.
• 2023-04-03 Comments: Stan R. way behind in website updates.
• 2023-05-01 Comments: Stan R. starting to catch up ( somewhat ). Barely keeping up. Little reorganization as hoped.
• 2023-06-05 Comments: Mostly simple barely keeping up. No progress on keeping things logical or stream lined.
• 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Stan R still maintaining and not drowning. Treading water.
• 2023-07-31 Comments for August: Nothing important.
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Steady as we go.
• 2023-10-02 Comments: Usual. Not enough time to clean up much.
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November:
  • Stan R combined meeting listing from STLLINUX home page with Presentation Archives page. Used available info, clean up still needed.
  • Stan R then placed Presentation Archive iframe page on all three sponsored home pages, the SLACC, STLLINUX and NEWLINUX home pages.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • Added Presentation Archive iframe page to the Steercom web page.

SUMMARY: We have recorded many of our past meetings and made some of them available on the Internet.

• The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
• 2023-01-09 Comments:
• 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Kind of keeping up with that. Need to delete a few excess Steercom videos.
• 2023-02-27 Comments for March: No problems.
• 2023-04-03 Comments: Keeping up ( I think ~ Stan R ).
• 2023-05-01 Comments: Keeping up. Might have some old ones that haven't been uploaded and linked before. Slow but steady.
• 2023-06-05 Comments: Keeping up, and been marking more for removal.
• 2023-06-26 Comments for July:
  • Mostly unaltered videos are uploaded ( nothing done to reduce quality or size ).
  • QUESTION: Do we have any measurement of how many of uploaded videos are being viewed?
  • We won't worry about it, if isn't burden on Lee's operation.
• 2023-07-31 Comments for August:
  • Keeping pace.
  • Stan R had problem downloading files from ZOOM. Lee did download, then Stan was able to finish processing.
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None
• 2023-10-02 Comments: Good, no problems.
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November:
  • When we get them recorded, they get updated. Been purging more ZOOM recording to conserve allotted space.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • Keeping up.

SUMMARY: We have presence on MEETUP.COM.

• The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
• 2023-01-09 Comments: Stan can't hear or see anyone moving now.
• 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Barely worth the effort.
• 2023-02-27 Comments for March: Per Gary and Stan R it sucks ( more and in many different ways, month to month ).
• 2023-04-03 Comments: Gary had been locked out by MEETUP for 5 hours.
• 2023-05-01 Comments: It sucks, is pain in posterior.
• 2023-06-05 Comments: It sucks, it sucks, it sucks. Something new messes up every month. Somewhat draws in attendees; but, nothing big.
• 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Meetup sucks.
• 2023-07-31 Comments for August: Last cycle Gary was bushwhacked, input grabbed screwy characters.
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September:
  • We kept getting messages from folks that are too impatient to read individual meeting instructions that tell them to check our web sites.
  • Apparently the front most SLUUG MEETUP about page lacked the additional linked here information we have for individual meetings.
  • Stan R added the linked here information to bottom of the SLUUG MEETUP about page.
  • It was very hard to find where we could update that front page ( no surprise ).
  • We were getting posting photos to our MEETUP meetings that show mushrooms and mention illegal drugs ( like Meth ).
  • Ken Johnson changed settings so that regular visitors could not post photos.
• 2023-10-02 Comments: We are at 995, now approaching 1000 membership. Wonder what will happen. Hard to know from their poor description.
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November:
  • Need to characterize SLACC as a Configuration Workshop, and the NEWLINUX as a Beginner Workshop.
  • Lee suggest it has been providing some significant visibility on the Internet.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • Sorta helpful.

SUMMARY: We presume that our single web site isn't enough to draw younger crowd.

• The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
• 2023-01-09 Comments:
  • Does NOT look like anyone has updated our twitter feed since November.
  • QUESTION: Who is supposed to be updating it?
• 2023-01-30 Comments for February:
  • What is best lead time to tweet about meeting? Consensus is before. Really, nobody here wants to do work.
• 2023-02-27 Comments for March::
  • Scott Granneman's offer about Mastadon in the FedAUniver means some of us might sign up.
  • Per Stan R we need demonstrations of different social tools.
• 2023-04-03 Comments:
  • Gary M will approach Granneman about Mastadon.
• 2023-05-01 Comments:
  • A significant number of TWITTER users have moved over to the social media technology ( beta ) of the
  • week, BlueSky.
  • Stan R watched and recommends Sunday's netcast of This Week in Tech
  • panel discussion on Twit TV about current social media.
  • Still same issues for us.
• 2023-06-05 Comments: Unfortunately, our prejudices preclude advancing or progressing in this territory.
• 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Maybe we [ could ] get some presentation from Scott Granneman.
• 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Our only interest is for advertising our meetings.
• 2023-10-02 Comments: Johnathan suggested Mastadon over MEETUP. Need effort. Need clones.
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November:
  • Nothing that we care to do, although Stan thinks Mastadon is best of bad possibilities.
  • Neither of those of us here care for social media. We need to find somebody younger.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • Too many different social media things and we are dinosaurs.
  • We we need somebody to advertise us on social media.

SUMMARY: As a historical descendant of our monthly newsletter, the ANNOUNCE mailing had been a weekly extract of our SLUUG GOOGLE Calendar of Events. Previous editors had also styled it less of 1 liners of the entire calendar and more of abstracts of OUR talks & outstanding interest items.

  * **HISTORY:** The subscriber list has been populated from attendance sheets by a nominating subscription process, which requires human input.

• The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
• 2023-01-09 Comments:
• 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Problems really relate to advance scheduling.
• 2023-02-27 Comments for March:: None
• 2023-04-03 Comments: None
• 2023-05-01 Comments: It works.
• 2023-06-05 Comments: No changes.
• 2023-06-26 Comments for July: No changes on list. Topic for STLLINUX was determined too late to make use of it as announcement.
• 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September: It works.
• 2023-10-02 Comments: Robert Levitt has been posting items to list.
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November:
  • Stan suggest we use it to promote BOCK upgrade of Debian with propaganda.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • 

SUMMARY: Combine recording physical plus remote meetings

  * HISTORY: 
      * We have for the longest time been saying: 
      * **No physical face-to-face meetings until further notice.**
      * When we again have physical meetings, we would like to continue video meetings in conjunction with any physical meetings.
      * So, in anticipation of future openings of libraries and restaurants,
        * reduction of lock-down, we need to work toward perfecting the technology. 

• 2021-07-05
  • Project considerations
    • Locations
    • Schedule ~ Timeline
  • Assets
    • Staffing
      • Project Leader ~ Lee Lammert (at least Point Of Contact)
      • Project Wrangler ~ Steve Stegmann (if he will remember)
      • Recording Hardware ~ Lee Lammert
      • Recording Software ~ Tyler Rudie (had been experimenting with OBS during July STLLINUX meeting)
      • Remote Virtual Software ~ ZOOM or Jitsi (maybe better) ?
      • Head Count (local clipboard and remote software participant panel to capture attendance).
      • Production Chief(s) ~
        • does recording and archives.
        • one for remote and one for live location
      • Minions
    • Equipment ~ inventory ~ splitter ~ projectors ~ microphones ~ cameras ~ smartphone cameras ~ portability
      • avoid condenser microphones ~ want dynamic microphones (which may be more expensive)
    • Servers ~ ZOOM ~ Jitsi
    • Software ~ OBS ~ Discord? ~
      • Capabilities ~ Remote Video ~ Chat ~ Recording ~ Screen Sharing ~ YouTube Streaming?
      • Documentation ~ Diagrams ~ Limitations
      • Testing ~ Bat Cave? ~ Restaurant?
  • Discussion:
    • Gary M virtual remote experience at 2600 club was not good. They did not have splitter for hybrid session.
    • Lee figures harder, quite difficult, do we want to really do it. How do we do recordings?
    • Stan R says local noise too much at restaurants.
    • Head counts need to be considered. Gary once shared ZOOM participant panel. We need to promote sharing participant panel(s) for count heads.
    • Stan R has less problem using Jitsi.
    • Stan R thought Jitsi does not have built in recording (may not be true).
    • Stan R uses Linux SimpleScreenRecorder (SSR) to record all remote sessions. Specifically activates participant panel while recording sessions with SSR.
    • We must consider when will libraries open up. Also, Siemens, Nick and Elena's restaurant.
    • Gary suggests we move this topic earlier in agenda. We don't expect to make much progress right away; but, need to keep in mind.
• The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes ( after 2021-07-05 ) prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
• 2023-01-09 Comments:
• 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Hybrid meetings, nothing comes to mind.
• 2023-02-27 Comments for March: James Conroy says doing too hard.
• 2023-04-03 Comments: Free Beer and Pizza would be a large draw. We need to consider further.
• 2023-05-01 Comments: Our policy should be to encourage anyone else that wants to do all the work.
• 2023-06-05 Comments: Moving on.
• 2023-06-26 Comments for July:
  • We would need to consider counting both remote attendance and face-to-face attendance. Should we care, who would do it and how would we track it.
  • No disagreement. Lot easier for Dave Forrest to be at face-to-face meetings.
• 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Nothing to say.
• 2023-10-02 Comments: No thoughts.
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Any combined numbers could just be combined.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • 

SUMMARY: We try to record many of our meetings.

• The narrative comments in this section prior to July 2023 Steercom have been removed.
• 2023-07-31 Comments for August: SUGGESTION: Don't use condenser microphones. Only use Dynamic microphones.
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Nothing to say.
• 2023-10-02 Comments: Lee has one camera, Don has at least one microphone, stan has projector.
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November: No changes.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • Note that We have not made any progress toward moving to hybrid meetings.
  • Also, we have NOT agressively advertised seeking assistance in developing hybrid meeting techniques.
  • Have we essentially abandoned face-to-face meetings?
  • Should we consider donating or selling these assets?
  • 

SUMMARY: Effort to align length of BASE to be shorter than MAIN presentations.

  * **HISTORY:** 
  * General Meeting BASE portions go too long. Volunteers tend to do topics beyond introductory level. 
    * Scaling back subjects and length of coverage might be a good thing.
    * We should be much more flexible in structure and not restrict to BASE and MAIN, allowing for multiple short topics.
  * Stan R posted to SteerCom mailing list for prior discussion.
  * Stan R suggests that we start pulling simple ideas from our Planning Schedule Report and by using a facilitator (or two) encourage
    * and guide participation covering that single topic.  Simply starting out by presenting a relevant man page might work to get folks to join in. 
    * Keeping it short and simple (KISS).

• 2022-09-07 Comments:
  • Stan R volunteers for first trial run next week.
  • Lee suggest Q&A first, then call-for-help before MAIN.
  • Scott G considering a number of smaller topics for this month.
  • Dave Forrest urged us to start doing captions during meetings.
  • Steve found two other references and posted to DISCUSS:
  • https://www.pisd.edu/cms/lib/TX02215173/Centricity/Domain/9379/Automated%2520Captions%2520in%2520Zoom.pdf
  • https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/4409683389709-Enabling-or-disabling-closed-captioning-and-live-transcription-services
  • Gary found under the App Button (or More Button) there is reference to Wordly transcription service.
    • Colibri ~ makes transcripts and meeting notes (license requirements preclude our use).
    • Gary will post and summarize on Steve's DISCUSS posting.
• 2022-10-03 Comments:
  • Changed 12 September SLUUG General Meeting. Instead of a BASE and a MAIN, had 3 short Rolling Thunder Talks.
  • ZOOM somehow gave us an extra file that was closed captions.
  • We should be much more flexible in structure and not restrict to BASE and MAIN, allowing for multiple short topics.
• 2022-11-02 Comments: We agree, worth doing again. Might even be routine, like February instead of Lightning Talks.
• 2022-12-05 Comments: Still a very good option to have multiple short presentations.
• 2023-01-09 Comments: None
• 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Promote that we're a friendly group, .. if you have a topic that you think would be good, you don't have to be an expert!!
• 2023-02-27 Comments for March:: None
• 2023-04-03 Comments: Shorter BASE sessions working fine. Good if we could only get more volunteers.
• 2023-05-01 Comments: Hope to keep them down to 30 to 45 minutes at most.
• 2023-06-05 Comments: We doing good keeping BASE simple.
• 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Seems to be our on going goal.
• 2023-07-31 Comments for August: Gary needs to advise speakers to keep BASE down to 15 to 20 minutes.
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Good dealing with keeping BASE things short.
• 2023-10-02 Comments: Good results with stick to short BASE presentations. Quite good for flow of meeting.
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November: BASE sessions have been within suggested time span over the last three months or so.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • We should note that for this past year we have been sucessful in getting BASE presentations back into managable time sessions.
  • Stan R suggests that next month we could remove this topic as it is no longer necessary nor relivant.
  • Yes, delete for next month.

SUMMARY: We use for head count tracking and for member voting qualification during each Calendar Year (CY)

  * HISTORY: 
  * Attendance tracking necessary for member qualifications to vote in our annual elections.
  * At face-to-face meetings we would pass around clipboard with sign-in sheet.
  * The standard remote video recordings do not automatically show participants.
  * Stan R runs a second connection to each video meeting named **Anonymous Coward** to record attendance. 

• LibreOffice BASE Attendance database file is available for download from https://www.sluug.org/steercom/ page.
• The narrative comments in this section prior to July 2023 Steercom have been removed.
• 2023-07-31 Comments for August:
  • Counts are good.
  • Attendance database is available from https://www.sluug.org/steercom webpage.
  • Planning database is available from https://www.sluug.org/steercom webpage.
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Works good.
• 2023-10-02 Comments: Stan updates immediately after each meeting. Often necessary to record with SimpleScreenRecorder.
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Good stuff.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • 

SUMMARY: We have LibreOffice BASE for tracking BASE, MAIN and STLLINUX meeting topics and speakers.

  * HISTORY: 
  * A running database helps Gary schedule meetings.

• LibreOffice BASE Planning database is available from https://www.sluug.org/steercom webpage.
• Go to https://www.sluug.org/steercom/ has link to planning.pdf
• or directly to report at Planning Schedule Report
• The narrative comments in this section prior to July 2023 Steercom have been removed.
• 2023-07-31 Comments for August:
  • Attendance database is available from https://www.sluug.org/steercom webpage.
  • Planning database is available from https://www.sluug.org/steercom webpage.
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September:
  • Stan R changed the 2023-07-12 entry for Steve Stegmann's TMUX - A Longer Introduction from listing as Base to Main.
  • Stan R altered length of Phone field in Planning database and it's report to allow room for telephone extentions.
• 2023-10-02 Comments: Help Gary stay focused. Gives Stan something to beat him about head and sholders.
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Becoming Gary's go to tool. Even used it during tonight's session.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • None.

SUMMARY: We have informational handout PDFs available http://www.sluug.org/resources/handouts/.

  * HISTORY: 
  *The PDFs are generated using LibreOffice. The originating files are stored along with generated PDFs.
  * Lee ordered printer parts that should correct crinkle problem.
  * Stan R has been modifying a Linux Presentation Day from 2015 found on the Internet.  It has excellent content.
    * Difficult to modify, as it is extremely graphically intense.  Built and modified with the Scribus application.
    * Likely too complex to print, may wind up splitting content to make a slide show presentation.

• The narrative comments in this section prior to July 2023 Steercom have been removed.
• 2023-07-31 Comments for August: Nothing new.
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Stan cannot manufacture extra time.
• 2023-10-02 Comments: Stan cannot manufacture extra time.
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Stan needs a time machine or a clone to do updates.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • None.

SUMMARY: Ken Johnson really prefers stickers, rather than stuffed toys!

  * **HISTORY:**  SWAG is good!
    * Lee has sheet to pass on to Ken.
    * James Conroy will make background black so we can get what we want when ordered.

• The narrative comments in this section prior to July 2023 Steercom have been removed.
• 2023-06-26 Comments for July: James C. not here to make remark.
• 2023-07-31 Comments for August: James C. too busy buying house and travel to India.
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September: James C. will check his todo list.
• 2023-10-02 Comments: No updates.
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November: James C. is not not here to kick around.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • None.

SUMMARY: We have large box of hard copy historical records concerning our organization. It has been floating around.

  * **HISTORY:** 2020-10-05 Gary found cardboard box with old secretary material. Original Xeroxes of articles of corporation, etc. Historical interest. No idea who dropped it off.

• The narrative comments in this section prior to July 2023 Steercom have been removed.
• 2023-07-31 Comments for August: Gary has only heard rumors of their existence.
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September: * Completely disorganized. Box still there.
• 2023-10-02 Comments: Gary believes box is still there ( not verified ).
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Gary not sure if still there.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • None.

SUMMARY: We seek financial support from the tech community.

  * **HISTORY:** We are not good at getting sponsors.

• The narrative comments in this section prior to July 2023 Steercom have been removed.
• 2023-07-31 Comments for August: Thank You Dave!
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Nothing new.
• 2023-10-02 Comments: We are not good at self promotion.
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Omnitec is still quite generous.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • None.

SUMMARY: We don't have enough volunteers to do everything consistently.

  * **HISTORY:** We need new members who want to do stuff. Same as every month.

• QUESTION: Any new volunteers to help?
• Tyler Rudie had volunteered to help with SLUUG Google calendar input.
• Gary, Stan, & Tyler need to get together to review Tyler getting to work on Google Calendar modifications?
• Tyler Rudie has been granted permissions to help with SLUUG Google calendar input. Not yet given guidance or instructions.
• Gary needs to prompt him.
• The narrative comments in this section prior to July 2023 Steercom have been removed.
• 2023-06-26 Comments for July:
  • Stanford Baldwin avoided conversation
  • Robert Levitt willing and Gary will encourage him to post spontaneously.
• 2023-07-31 Comments for August: Gary needs to talk to Robert Levitt and Tyler Ruddie.
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Gary needs to start picking on somebody else.
• 2023-10-02 Comments: Gary suggests approaching individuals one-on-one, face-to-face if meeting them.
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Not enough grey hairs out there to do us any good.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • Robert Levitt willing; but, needs to do it better.

SUMMARY: After old business, we call for anything that we need to deal with.

• QUESTION: Do we have anything else, anything new that we need to deal with?
• The narrative comments in this section prior to July 2023 Steercom have been removed.
• 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Home Automation group may be a source of presentations for us, if they keep ZOOM efforts going (per Gary).
• 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None
• 2023-10-02 Comments:
  • Recognition of Phil Bunch participation and contributions.
  • How often mention will be determined later.
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November: None
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • 

SUMMARY: We routinely rotate thru the following (just in case).

  * HISTORY: 
  * In past, we had missed critical government filings, dropped ball on domain renewals, and similar important items.

• December 2023 - Ticket ( ballot ) nominations should be solicited.
• January 2024 - STLLINUX.ORG domain automatic renewal.
• January 2024 ~ Post Office Box Renewal ( automatic 6 months on credit card ) ~ Lee handles.
• January 2024 ~ Bribes early to Stan R so your name won't be on ballot.
• February 2024 - SLUUG Annual Board meeting and elections.
• March 2024 - Count Ballots
• March 2024 - Updates to contacts on webpage if required.
• March 2024 - Updates to email aliases if required.
• March 2024 - Consider schedule workshops for July and August 2021
• April 2024 - IRS Form 990-N for Tax Exempt Status. e-postcard. filed March 2023.
• May 2024 - LetsEncrypt renews every 60 days early ( 30 day grace period ).
• June 2024 - BuddyNS SLUUG account due (Automated) * WAS RENEWED.
• June 2024 - Missouri Annual Report for Corporate Legal Status due. DUE 2024 ( every two years now )
  • https://bsd.sos.mo.gov/BusinessEntity/BusinessEntityDetail.aspx?page=beSearch&ID=681250
• June 2024 - *automated* LetsEncrypt free SSL certificates for websites on BOCK.
• July 2024 - SLUUG.ORG account due (Automated) done in June.
• July 2024 ~ Post Office Box Renewal (automatic 6 months on credit card) ~ Lee handles on SLUUG card.
• August 2024 - Missouri Tax Holiday ( on our calendar )
• August 2024 - NEWLINUX.ORG domain renewal. Stan R.
• August 2024 - SLACC.ORG domain renewal. Stan R.
• September 2024
• October 2024
• November 2024 - Search for upcoming Technical Group Xmas parties to put on our calendar.
• The narrative comments in this section prior to July 2023 Steercom have been removed.
• 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None
• 2023-10-02 Comments: None
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Gary suggested looking in November for Technical Group Xmas parties to put on our calendar.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • 

SUMMARY: When anybody does something to help!

• QUESTION: Did anyone do anything helpful or useful?
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November:
  • Jonathan found us some good presenters.
  • Ken Johnson came to us with great presentation on short notice.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • Phil Bunch all time contributions.

SUMMARY: It may help a little to tag individuals with tasks:

• ISSUES:
• 
• Everyone - Review the STEERCOM minutes, make corrections, act!
• Everyone - Talk to someone about coming to meetings.
• Everyone - Talk to someone about giving a presentation.
• Everyone - Stan R wants LibreOffice Planning database tested on multiple systems.
• Don Ellis ~ Test Stan's Planning database on LibreOffice on Mac.
• Don Ellis ~ Upon return to town, clean tomato sauce off the Snowball microphone (there was minor accident at STLLINUX).
• Don Ellis ~ was to upload older videos to Google Photos and/or Google Docs & publish links.
• Don Ellis ~ Possible presentation - 2018-07-18 he had suggested Apple interfaces and accessories for audio & video.
• Don Ellis ~ Possible presentation on new ChromeBook Linux interface. July 2020
• Don Ellis ~ will/was to place credentials for YouTube and any others on Bock /home/sluug
• Gary Meyer ~ Hassle Mike about Google throttling.
• Gary Meyer ~ Contact Steve Pidgeon for progress report.
• Gary Meyer - Build spreadsheet to track domain name registrations. See http://bgp.he.net/ip/207.223.253.71#_dns
• Gary Meyer - Did not follow up with Noel about transferring the SLACC.COM domain to us.
  • SLACC.COM is now held by someone else (squatter).
  • SLACC.ORG could be registered. SLACC.COM available for sale ~ only $499.
  • Consider other TLDs than .com and .org for SLACC
  • 2023-05-01 Comments:
    • SLACC.COM has been offered for sale to us for $100 ( down from $499 ).
    • SLACC.ORG registered by Stan R more than a year ago.
    • NEWLINUX.ORG registered by Stan R more than a year ago.
• Stan R. ~ Remind Gary Meyer to bring SWAG, Penguins or stickers to meetings and hand out pamphlets.
• Stan and Gary should get together and discuss how ANNOUNCE maintance is done.
• The narrative comments in this section prior to July 2023 Steercom have been removed.
• 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None
• 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Gary is neglecting this sections.
• 2023-10-02 Comments: None.
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Stan suggests trashing this section, and Gary agrees. Will give it another month or two.
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • 

• QUESTION: Will we have Blue Sky Idea session to record or not record?
• 2023-10-02 Comments:
  • Continue recording
  • Carl Perry ( RISC Five Associates ) in Austin Texas.
  • Techies are meeting privately in individual homes, therefore fewer group meetings.
• 2023-10-30 Comments for November: None
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • 

• QUESTION: At what time was STEERCOM meeting adjourned?
• 2023-12-04 Comments:
• Monday, December 4th, 2023
  • TIME: 8:45pm

• 2023-12-04 Comments:
  • TIME:

SUMMARY: Food for thought ~ anything not previously covered that provides mental stimulus for thinking about improvements or solutions.

  * HISTORY:  Stimulate creativity by planting the seed of an idea.  
    * Current action or response not required.
    * Some ideas are Off-The-Record ~ NOT TO BE RECORDED!
    * Some ideas should be publicized.~ SHOULD BE RECORDED!
    * If a speaker believes something should not be recorded, the recording operator needs to be notified.
    * ** Each speaker would initially declare whether an idea should be recorded or not. ** 

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