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   * July 5, 2006   * July 5, 2006
-  * ?? 6:30 pm -+  * 6:45 pm - 8:30 pm
  
 ===== Attendees ===== ===== Attendees =====
  
-  * ?? Barry Morrison +  * Craig Buchek 
-  * ?? Carl Fitch +  * Carl Fitch 
-  * ?? Craig Buchek +  * Ted Palmer 
-  * ?? Gary Myer +  * Chris Byrd 
-  * ?? Lee Lammert +  * Stan Reichardt
-  * ?? Stan Reichardt +
-  * ?? Ted Palmer +
-  * ?? Tim Cross+
  
 ===== Secretary Report ===== ===== Secretary Report =====
  
-  * ?? Need to print out previous months'​ minutes for signature and inclusion in Secretary folder. +  * Need to print out previous months'​ minutes for signature and inclusion in Secretary folder. 
-  * ?? Need to finish typing up minutes for March 3 board meeting and official annual meeting.+  * Need to finish typing up minutes for March 3 board meeting and official annual meeting
 +  * There was some dispute about what was decided at the [[2006-04#​board_meeting | Board meeting in April]]. 
 +    * The wording that was agreed to was "​proposed fee structure for accounts/​memberships"​. 
 +    * The proposed fee structure was listed as: 
 +      * Level 1: $35 (basic/​shell) Shell 
 +      * Level 2: $65 (dial-up + shell) Sustaining 
 +      * Level 3: $100 ("​professional"​) Professional 
 +      * Corporate Sponsorship:​ $200 
 +    * Some are now saying that they only agreed to the $100 level. 
 +    * May be a moot point if we re-do the structure when we disband the dial-up accounts. 
 +    * Stan and Carl remember/​understood it the way it was reported.
  
 ===== Treasurer Report ===== ===== Treasurer Report =====
  
-  * ?? No report.+  * No report. Lee was out of town. 
 +  * Says we will run out of funds by May if we don't stop paying for dial-up lines. 
 +    * Has not provided data to back that up yet. 
 +  * Current balance: $1350 (approximate) 
 +  * Collected 1 $35 membership fee for 2006-2007.
  
 ===== Book Sales ===== ===== Book Sales =====
  
-  * ?? Sold 7 books in May for about $94. +  * Sold books in June for about $45
-  * ?? Sold x books in June for about $x+  * No new books ordered this year
-  * ?? No new books ordered this year.+  * Stan suggested a fire sale to get rid of remaining inventory. 
 +    * Also raffle off books at meetings as door prizes.
  
 ===== Previous Meetings ===== ===== Previous Meetings =====
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 Attendance figures for last 3 months: Attendance figures for last 3 months:
  
-==  ​5 Apr STEERC ​ -  5 ........ ​ 3 May STEERC ​ -  6 ........ ​ 7 Jun STEERC ​ -  6 == +   5 Apr STEERC ​ -  5 ........ ​ 3 May STEERC ​ -  6 ........ ​ 7 Jun STEERC ​ -  6 
-== 12 Apr SLUUG   - 17 ........ 10 May SLUUG   - 37 ........ 14 Jun SLUUG   - 15 == +  12 Apr SLUUG   - 17 ........ 10 May SLUUG   - 37 ........ 14 Jun SLUUG   - 15 
-== 20 Apr STLLUG ​ - 20 ........ 18 May STLLUG ​ - 15(17)..... 15 Jun STLLUG ​ - 23 == +  20 Apr STLLUG ​ - 20 ........ 18 May STLLUG ​ - 15(17)..... 15 Jun STLLUG ​ - 23 
-== 25 Apr HZWLUG ​ -  7 ........ 23 May HZWLUG ​ -  7 ........ 22 Jun STCLUG ​ -  8 == +  25 Apr HZWLUG ​ -  7 ........ 23 May HZWLUG ​ -  7 ........ 22 Jun STCLUG ​ -  8 
-== 26 Apr SECURE ​ -  8 ........ 24 May SECURE ​ -  8 ........ 27 Jun HZWLUG ​ -  7 == +  26 Apr SECURE ​ -  8 ........ 24 May SECURE ​ -  8 ........ 27 Jun HZWLUG ​ -  7 
-== 27 Apr STCLUG ​ -  9 ........ 25 May STCLUG ​ - 11 ........ 28 Jun SECURE ​ -  9 ==+  27 Apr STCLUG ​ -  9 ........ 25 May STCLUG ​ - 11 ........ 28 Jun SECURE ​ -  9
  
 Figures in parenthesis is actual head count. Figures in parenthesis is actual head count.
 +
 +Chris volunteered to cross-promote our Security meetings at other local security groups (Infragaurd and ISSA).
  
 ==== Comments on Presentations ==== ==== Comments on Presentations ====
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 === SLUUG - June 14 === === SLUUG - June 14 ===
   * Base: Master Boot Records by Carl Fitch   * Base: Master Boot Records by Carl Fitch
 +    * Pretty good. Lots of interaction.
   * NOT DONE: Secure Email by Dustin Anders and Paul Vinson of Slashmail (via Craig)   * NOT DONE: Secure Email by Dustin Anders and Paul Vinson of Slashmail (via Craig)
-  * Main:  Everything You (N)Ever Wanted to Know About Hard Drives ​ by Creg Buchek+  * Main: Everything You (N)Ever Wanted to Know About Hard Drives ​ by Craig Buchek 
 +    * Excellent. Outstanding. 
 +    * Not too much feedback during presentation. People said they were busy absorbing content.
  
 === STLLUG - June 15 === === STLLUG - June 15 ===
   * Again started main presentation at 7:00 PM.  Seems to be working well.   * Again started main presentation at 7:00 PM.  Seems to be working well.
-  * Main: SUSE 10 by Matt Skipton of Novell (via Lee)+  * Main: SUSE Enterprise Linux 10 by Matt Skipton of Novell (via Lee) 
 +    * Shiny stuff! XGL demo impressed most of us. 
 +    * Good interaction and questions. Lots of excitement. 
 +    * Good preview of the technology. Not terribly in-depth. 
 +    * Will be covering server side this coming month at SLUUG meeting.
  
 === STCLUG - June 22 === === STCLUG - June 22 ===
   * Topic: Kids Programming Language (KPL) by Fred Smith   * Topic: Kids Programming Language (KPL) by Fred Smith
 +    * Very interesting. Result of DISCUSS conversation.
  
 === HZWLUG - June 27 === === HZWLUG - June 27 ===
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     * Processes and the ''​ps,​ kill, and top''​ commands     * Processes and the ''​ps,​ kill, and top''​ commands
     * CHMOD and the SUID and SGUID permissions     * CHMOD and the SUID and SGUID permissions
 +    * Attendees are starting to participate more and ask good questions.
  
 === Security - June 28 === === Security - June 28 ===
   * Topic: Basic Linux Security by Clarence Johnson   * Topic: Basic Linux Security by Clarence Johnson
-  ​* Looking for for more volunteer presenters+    * Basic, easy to follow. 
 +  ​* Looking for for more volunteer presenters.
  
 ===== Presentation Schedule ===== ===== Presentation Schedule =====
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 === SLUUG - July 12 === === SLUUG - July 12 ===
-  * Base: TBD +  * Base: Graylisting with Postgray (Making Spammers Wait) by Carl Fitch 
-  * Main: Novell ​SuSE in the Enterprise Space  by Matt Skipton of Novell ( via Lee )+  * Main: Novell ​SUSE in the Enterprise Space by Matt Skipton of Novell (via Lee)
  
 === STLLUG - July 20 === === STLLUG - July 20 ===
-  * Stan R. WILL BE out of town - Need someone else to take attendance 
   * Installing Ubuntu Linux from a Disk Image by Tony Lovasco of EPC (via Carl Fitch)   * Installing Ubuntu Linux from a Disk Image by Tony Lovasco of EPC (via Carl Fitch)
 +  * NOTE: Stan will be out of town - Need someone else to take attendance
  
 === HZWLUG - July 25 === === HZWLUG - July 25 ===
-  * Stan R. might still be out of town - May need someone else to take attendance 
   * Newbie Topics   * Newbie Topics
     * SUGGESTION: How To Update Your System - pkg, rpm, tar, apt, yum, yast, etc.     * SUGGESTION: How To Update Your System - pkg, rpm, tar, apt, yum, yast, etc.
 +  * NOTE: Stan might still be out of town - May need someone else to take attendance
  
 === Security - July 26 === === Security - July 26 ===
-  * Stan R. might still be out of town - May need someone else to take attendance +  * TOPIC: OpenVPN by Mark Buchanon (confirmed) 
-  * TOPIC: OpenVPN by Mark Buchanon+  * NOTE: Stan might still be out of town - May need someone else to take attendance
  
 === STCLUG - July 27 === === STCLUG - July 27 ===
-  * Stan R. might still be out of town - May need someone else to take attendance +  * TOPIC: Booting Multiple Live CD's from a Single CD-ROM or DVD by Mike Duncan 
-  * TBD+  * NOTE: Stan might still be out of town - May need someone else to take attendance
  
 ==== August 2006 ==== ==== August 2006 ====
  
 === SLUUG - Aug 9 === === SLUUG - Aug 9 ===
-  * Base: TBD+  * Base: Intro to Metasploit Security Tool by Chris Byrd (TENTATIVE)
   * Main: Something by Scott Granneman (TENTATIVE, via Gary)   * Main: Something by Scott Granneman (TENTATIVE, via Gary)
-    *  ​- ​Get abstract/​bio and confirm date.+    * Get abstract/​bio and confirm date.
  
 === STLLUG - Aug 17 === === STLLUG - Aug 17 ===
   * Main: InkScape - Mark Jarnowski (TENTATIVE, via Craig)   * Main: InkScape - Mark Jarnowski (TENTATIVE, via Craig)
-    *  ​- ​Get abstract/​bio and confirm date.+    * Get abstract/​bio and confirm date.
  
 === HZWLUG - Aug 22 === === HZWLUG - Aug 22 ===
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 === Security - Aug 23 === === Security - Aug 23 ===
-  * TBD+  * Hands-On: Metasploit by Chris Byrd
  
 === STCLUG - Aug 24 === === STCLUG - Aug 24 ===
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 === SLUUG - Sep 13 === === SLUUG - Sep 13 ===
   * Base: TBD   * Base: TBD
-  * Main: Search Engine Optimization ​and Web Services by Jeff Heaton ​(TENTATIVE, ​via Ted) +  * Main: Secure Email by Dustin Anders ​and Paul Vinson of Slashmail ​(via Craig)
-    *  - Get abstract/​bio and confirm date.+
  
 === STLLUG - Sep 21 === === STLLUG - Sep 21 ===
   * Main: TBD   * Main: TBD
-    *  - Get abstract/​bio and confirm date. 
  
 === HZWLUG - Sep 26 === === HZWLUG - Sep 26 ===
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   * Base: TBD   * Base: TBD
   * Main: TBD   * Main: TBD
-    *  - Get abstract/​bio and confirm date. 
  
 === STLLUG - Oct 19 === === STLLUG - Oct 19 ===
   * Base: TBD   * Base: TBD
   * Main: TBD   * Main: TBD
-    *  - Get abstract/​bio and confirm date 
  
 ==== Potential Presentations ==== ==== Potential Presentations ====
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     * Music - Linux on iPod, iPod on Linux, Ogg, players, etc.     * Music - Linux on iPod, iPod on Linux, Ogg, players, etc.
     * Using Secure Email Clients     * Using Secure Email Clients
 +    * TrueCrypt - file-level encryption for Windows/​Linux
 +    * One-Time Passwords
  
 ===== Weekly Announcements ===== ===== Weekly Announcements =====
  
-  * Stan R. has recently gotten a number of positive comments on Weekly Events. +  * Stan has recently gotten a number of positive comments on Weekly Events ​mailings
-  * Stan R. has started experimenting with SED & AWK scripts to automate build.+  * Stan has started experimenting with SED & AWK scripts to automate build.
  
 ===== Sponsorships ===== ===== Sponsorships =====
  
-  * ?? Lee working to send out invoices to previous sponsors. ($200) +  * Lee working to send out invoices to previous sponsors. ($200) 
-  * ?? Clarence and Stan R. will start working to gather information about previous sponsors. +  * Clarence and Stan R. will start working to gather information about previous sponsors. 
-    * ?? Starting with information from the web site.+    * Starting with information from the web site.
  
 ===== Website Librarian ===== ===== Website Librarian =====
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     * Previously stopped after year 2000.     * Previously stopped after year 2000.
     * Accuracy not high, about 5 months missing.     * Accuracy not high, about 5 months missing.
-  * ?? Stan R. working with Ted to get presentations put up. +  * Stan R. working with Ted to get presentations put up. 
-    * ?? Ted not comfortable with ''​librarian''​ as a title, but the goal remains to gather the materials. +    * Ted not comfortable with ''​librarian''​ as a title, but the goal remains to gather the materials. 
-    * ?? Ted has gotten some of the older presentations gathered. +    * Ted has gotten some of the older presentations gathered. 
-    * ?? Ted's major emphasis will be to focus on getting the material from presenters. +    * Ted's major emphasis will be to focus on getting the material from presenters. 
-    * ?? We anticipate HTML to be the most desirable format, followed by PDF. +    * We anticipate HTML to be the most desirable format, followed by PDF.
  
 ===== System Administration ===== ===== System Administration =====
  
-  ​* ?? Mike Knight reported on a recurring rebooting issue with Dark. +  * Spoofing of old email address on DISCUSS mailing list. 
-  * ?? Mike Knight reported on a recurring issue with one of the modems. +    * Mike Knight found old board member names still allowed to post
-  ​* Spoofing of old email address on DISCUSS mailing list +    * Porblem has hopefully been resolved.
-    * Mike Knight found old board member names still allowed to post+
  
 ===== PROJECT: New servers ===== ===== PROJECT: New servers =====
-  * ?? Configured SLUUG.ORG web site on new server. +  * Need to complete ​migration to new servers
-    * ?? Copied over all the data. +  * Chris volunteered ​to help
-    * ?? Configured a redirect back to old systems for user pages for short-term. +    * Has good Drupal experience
-      * ?? Will redirect to users.sluug.org,​ which can remain in place after the full migration+    * Has done Linux administration
-      * ?? This will allow us to move the web site without having to move the users. +  * Craig has a 1U UltraSparc with Solaris 10 to donate and install at Primary.
-    * ?? Need to determine how to do the mailing list sign-up pages. +
-    * ?? Need to determine how to proceed with non-SLUUG sites we host. +
-  * ?? Next step is to test the new site, before we point our production DNS there. +
-    * ?? Make sure everything is there and working. +
-    * ?? Make sure we copy over any updates from the old web site. +
-    * ?? Make sure the redirect to user pages is working. +
-    * ?? Make sure the SIG sites/pages work. +
-    * ?? Get the mailing list sign-up pages to work+
-  * ?? Craig is working on email infrastructure. +
-    * ?? He made some progress, but is not quite finished. +
-    * ?? Got some input on how to proceed from the others. +
-  * ?? We need some versa-rails to mount the servers+
-    * ?? Lee measured the depth of the rails - 28.5 inches front to back+
-    * ?? Need to be mounted on a Compaq 4U server+
-  * ?? Craig has a 1U UltraSparc with Solaris 10 to donate and install at Primary. +
-  * ?? We could use a rackmount switch. +
-    * ?? Carl has a 12-port rackmount hub he will donate. +
  
 ===== Old Business ===== ===== Old Business =====
-  * ?? Missouri Exempt status - (Carl Fitch and Lee Lammert, with help from Fred Smith'​s wife) +  * Missouri Exempt status - (Carl Fitch and Lee Lammert, with help from Fred Smith'​s wife) 
-    * ?? Carl has the forms. Working to finish filling them out. Will hand them off to Lee. +    * Carl has the forms. Working to finish filling them out. Will hand them off to Lee. 
-    * ?? Gary will take forms to Rich McClennan to get help answering some of the questions.+    * Gary will take forms to Rich McClennan to get help answering some of the questions.
  
-  * ?? See about O'​Reilly bringing someone in to speak to our group(s)+  * Craig needs to work to write up new membership info
-    * ?? Carl will follow up.+    * See previous minutes for full details.
  
-  * ?? Stan R. proposed we clean house, and send any excess inventory to WITS. +===== New Business =====
-    * ?? Suggested someone other than Stan R. volunteer+
  
-  * ?? Craig needs to work to write up new membership info+  * Carl **MUST** submit annual report ​to the state by July 15 to keep us in business
-    * ?? See last month'​s minutes for full details.+    * Carl will have forms filled out by July 12.
  
-  * ?? Gary sent email to reduce ​dial-up ​lines to 4.+  * We seem to be proceeding with dropping ​dial-up ​once the current term expires. 
 +    * Stan suggested keeping 1 dial-up line for ememergency access ​to Wash U systems. 
 +      * Those in attendance agreed that this was a good idea. 
 +    * Lee suggested we drop the dial-up lines on September 30. 
 +      * Gary suggested we give users 90 days notice. 
 +        * The proposal is actually 80 days+. 
 +      * Those in attendance agreed this was a good idea.
  
-  * ?? Lee found a dial-up service at Primary Networks for $120/​year. +  * Mike Knight asked if we should delete suspected spam emails, without letting users see them. 
-    * ?? This could be a fall-back ​if we can no longer provide that service. +    * It was suggested ​that it would be good to delete ​**some** emails
-    * ?? We need to re-assess cost of phone lines at the end of this year. +      * Those with really high spam scores
- +      * It was agreed ​that Mike could set the threshold ​to a conservative value of his choice.
-  * ?? Stan R. has removed many of our email aliases. +
-    * ?? Most of them only collected spam+
-    * ?? Needs to make a few alias changes still. +
-    * ?? Updated the contacts page. +
-    * ?? Needs to make a few more changes to the web site still. +
- +
-===== New Business ===== +
-  * ?? Craig proposes ​that a BBS Committee ​be formed. +
-    * ?? They will ensure financial viability of the BBS. +
-    * ?? They will report ​to Steering Committee on continuing viability at least quarterly. +
-      ​?? Or else the BBS service will be canceled the following year. +
-    ​?? If no committee is formed by interested parties, the BBS service will be canceled the following year. +
-    ​?? Carl says that 12 people have used the dial-up over the past year. +
-      * ?? Carl will inform all these current users about our plans. +
-    ​?? Primary Networks offers dial-up service+
-      * ?? For $8/month, users can get basic dial-up+
-      * ?? For $10/month, users can get nation-wide dial-up. +
-      * ?? Carl said it is an option to resell Primary'​s dial-up. +
-    * ?? Despite notification ​that we'd discuss this, nobody who cares showed up. +
- +
-  * ?? We seem to be proceeding with dropping dial-up once the current term expires. +
-    * ?? Gary seems resigned ​to letting go of the dial-up. +
-    * ?? Gary has started the process of notifying current users. +
- +
-  * ?? Craig suggested that we may need to set procmail to delete spam of a certain rating.+
  
 ===== Blue Sky ===== ===== Blue Sky =====
  
-  * ?? Carl suggested we remove the passwords from mailing list archives. 
-    * ?? Craig thinks that Mhonarc does not strip email addresses from the message bodies. 
-    * ?? Barry will look into stripping email addresses from bodies on new servers. 
  
-  * ?? Stan R. suggested we hold the occasional meeting at some other location. +===== Follow-up and Action Items =====
-    * ?? Or a joint meeting with some other group. +
-      * ?? Java groups. +
-      * ?? Web Developers. +
-        * ?? LAMP would be a great topic.+
  
 +  * Carl - **MUST** complete annual report for state by July 12.
 +  * Carl - Complete state exempt status paperwork.
 +  * Chris and Craig - Work on migrating to new servers.
 +  * Craig - Confirm Dustin Anders and Paul Vinson for September 13 presentation.
 +    * Tell them to spend at least half the time on client-side (PGP).
 +    * Get abstract/​bio.
 +    * Follow up at monthly intervals.
 +  * Craig - Print out meeting minutes for inclusion in secretary folder.
 +  * Craig - Write up info on membership levels for web site and hand-outs.
 +  * Lee - Submit treasurer reports.
 +  * Lee - Finish QuickBooks transfer & financials.
 +  * Barry - Look into Webmin and Majordomo/​Mailmain for new servers.
 +    * Need to be able to preserve the archives.
 +  * Gary - Talk to people about presentations (see above).
 +  * Tim - Contact Mark Russell about presenting at Security group.
 +  * Stan - Update web sites.
 +  * Ted and Stan - Upload presentations to web archive.
  
-===== Follow-up and Action Items ===== 
- 
-  * ?? Carl - Complete tax-exempt status paperwork. 
-  * ?? Craig - Get abstract/​bio from Dustin Anders and Paul Vinson. 
-    * ?? Tell them to spend at least half the time on client-side (PGP). 
-  * ?? Craig - Print out meeting minutes for inclusion in secretary folder. 
-  * ?? Craig - Continue working on new servers. 
-    * ?? Recruit testers in preparation to move www.sluug.org site. 
-    * ?? Complete email configuration. 
-  * ?? Craig - Write up info on membership levels for web site and hand-outs. 
-  * ?? Lee - Get abstract/​bio from Matt Skipton of Novell. 
-  * ?? Lee - Finish QuickBooks transfer & financials. 
-  * ?? Barry - Look into Webmin and Majordomo/​Mailmain for new servers. 
-    * ?? Need to be able to preserve the archives. 
-  * ?? Ted - Get abstract/​bio from Jeff Heaton and confirm date. 
-  * ?? Gary - Talk to people about presentations (see above). 
-  * ?? Tim - Contact Mark Russell about presenting at Security group. 
-  * ?? Stan R. - Update web sites. 
-  * ?? Stan R. - Upload presentations to web archive. 
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