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| * When we again have physical meetings, we would like to continue video meetings in conjunction with physical meetings. | * When we again have physical meetings, we would like to continue video meetings in conjunction with physical meetings. | ||
| * 2023-12-04 Comments: | * 2023-12-04 Comments: | ||
| - | * :?: | + | * ZOOM |
| ====== Agenda Changes ====== | ====== Agenda Changes ====== | ||
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| * We can expect Ed Howland to be here. He would like to first talk a little bit about a BASE presentation he is offering to do in January 2024. | * We can expect Ed Howland to be here. He would like to first talk a little bit about a BASE presentation he is offering to do in January 2024. | ||
| * SLUUG - Jan 10th, 2024 ~ BASE Confirmed **History of the Shell** by Ed Howland | * SLUUG - Jan 10th, 2024 ~ BASE Confirmed **History of the Shell** by Ed Howland | ||
| - | * :?: | + | * Ed interviewed Gary regarding his use of computers. CDC, Honeywell GeCOS Operating System ( grandfather of UNIX ), |
| + | * Multix was supposted to surplant GeCOS, then VAX machine clusters, migrating to | ||
| <code> | <code> | ||
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| * **QUESTION:** Have the recorders been started ( they should be, before call to order )? | * **QUESTION:** Have the recorders been started ( they should be, before call to order )? | ||
| * 2023-12-04 Comments: | * 2023-12-04 Comments: | ||
| - | * :?: Yes/No | + | * Yes |
| ====== Start STEERCOM Meeting ====== | ====== Start STEERCOM Meeting ====== | ||
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| * 2023-12-04 Comments: | * 2023-12-04 Comments: | ||
| * Monday, November 4th, 2023 | * Monday, November 4th, 2023 | ||
| - | * TIME: :?: | + | * TIME: |
| ====== Attendees ====== | ====== Attendees ====== | ||
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| :?: * Jonathan Drews | :?: * Jonathan Drews | ||
| - | :?: * David Forrest | + | * David Forrest |
| + | |||
| + | * Ed Howland | ||
| :?: * Ken Johnson | :?: * Ken Johnson | ||
| - | :?: * Lee Lammert | + | * Lee Lammert |
| - | :?: * Gary Meyer | + | * Gary Meyer |
| - | :?: * Stan Reichardt | + | * Stan Reichardt |
| - | :?: * Steve Stegmann | + | * Steve Stegmann |
| + | |||
| + | * Sean Twiehaus | ||
| - | :?: * Sean Twiehaus | ||
| ====== Secretary Report ====== | ====== Secretary Report ====== | ||
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| * Stan R would like Sean T to act as recording Secretary ( if present and he still would ). | * Stan R would like Sean T to act as recording Secretary ( if present and he still would ). | ||
| * ** Future Event ** Stan R gets run over by a truck. | * ** Future Event ** Stan R gets run over by a truck. | ||
| - | * :?: | + | * Stan will Do tonight. |
| ====== Treasurer Report ====== | ====== Treasurer Report ====== | ||
| - | ^ Balance as of 1 October| | ||$2,765.48 | | + | ^ Balance as of 1 November | | |$2,765.48 | |
| - | ^ Balance as of 31 October | | ||$2,765.48 | | + | ^ Buddy NS | | -9.27 | | |
| + | ^ Balance as of 30 November | ||$2,756.21 | | ||
| * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: None | * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: None | ||
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| * So, we are now only counting events, not overall effort made while putting information on the calendar. | * So, we are now only counting events, not overall effort made while putting information on the calendar. | ||
| * ** Future Event ** Stan R gets run over by a truck. | * ** Future Event ** Stan R gets run over by a truck. | ||
| - | * :?: | ||
| ====== Subscriber Report ====== | ====== Subscriber Report ====== | ||
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| * 2023-12-04 Comments: | * 2023-12-04 Comments: | ||
| * ** Future Event ** Stan R gets run over by a truck. | * ** Future Event ** Stan R gets run over by a truck. | ||
| - | * :?: | ||
| ====== Attendance Report ====== | ====== Attendance Report ====== | ||
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| * Since there is no longer a sign-in sheet difference from actual head count, Stan R would like to remove parentheses that surround numbers. | * Since there is no longer a sign-in sheet difference from actual head count, Stan R would like to remove parentheses that surround numbers. | ||
| * Stan R uses a separate connection ( named Anonymous Coward ) to record virtual meeting attendance. Nobody else is doing this. | * Stan R uses a separate connection ( named Anonymous Coward ) to record virtual meeting attendance. Nobody else is doing this. | ||
| - | * Stan R uses a separate connection ( named Anonymous Coward ) to record virtual meeting attendance. | ||
| * Stan R records meeting attendance in a LibreOffice Database and makes it available from the [[http://www.sluug.org/steercom/|Steering Committee webpage]] | * Stan R records meeting attendance in a LibreOffice Database and makes it available from the [[http://www.sluug.org/steercom/|Steering Committee webpage]] | ||
| * Nobody else is recording the attendance or even seems to be looking at that ATTENDANCE database. | * Nobody else is recording the attendance or even seems to be looking at that ATTENDANCE database. | ||
| * ** Future Event ** Stan R gets run over by a truck. | * ** Future Event ** Stan R gets run over by a truck. | ||
| - | * :?: | + | * Gary does screen shots, giving some kind of attendance. |
| ====== Meeting Review Comments ====== | ====== Meeting Review Comments ====== | ||
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| * Stan has a number of slides ready. Will cover unfinished features in demo. | * Stan has a number of slides ready. Will cover unfinished features in demo. | ||
| * 2023-12-04 Comments: | * 2023-12-04 Comments: | ||
| - | * :?: | + | * Ed and Gary thought it was really good. |
| + | * We need more of the same. | ||
| + | * Gary wants a 20 question interview with Phil Bunch. | ||
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| * Jon Newbold had to reschedule to 8 November due to work travel requirement. **A Great Disturbance in the Force**. | * Jon Newbold had to reschedule to 8 November due to work travel requirement. **A Great Disturbance in the Force**. | ||
| * 2023-12-04 Comments: | * 2023-12-04 Comments: | ||
| - | * :?: | + | * Material was quite interesting, seemed to be more background that we never got to. |
| + | * Ed suggests an actual developer of the subsysems might provide better responses to us. | ||
| + | * Shawn thought kind of boaring subject matter, not supprising as of content. | ||
| ==== HOLIDAY - Veterans Day ~ Nov 11th, 2023 ==== | ==== HOLIDAY - Veterans Day ~ Nov 11th, 2023 ==== | ||
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| * Stan R screwed up instructions sent out on DISCUSS, ANNOUNCE and posted to website. Had previous month's link. | * Stan R screwed up instructions sent out on DISCUSS, ANNOUNCE and posted to website. Had previous month's link. | ||
| * Stan R was too busy with billboards, did not go back and correct the instructions by either new email, nor website changes. | * Stan R was too busy with billboards, did not go back and correct the instructions by either new email, nor website changes. | ||
| - | * One of the participants ( Sean Twiehaus? ) kept open a connection to the old link and redirected people to the correct link. | + | * One of the participants ( don't know who ) kept open a connection to the old link and redirected people to the correct link. |
| - | * :?: | + | * Shawn thought speaker quite engaging. |
| ==== NEWLINUX - Nov 28th, 2023 ==== | ==== NEWLINUX - Nov 28th, 2023 ==== | ||
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| * MAIN (Professional Computing): | * MAIN (Professional Computing): | ||
| * STATUS: **Available** | * STATUS: **Available** | ||
| - | * WHAT: **To Be Determined** | + | * WHAT: **ASCII Cinema** |
| - | * BY: Unknown | + | * BY: Shawn Twiehaus |
| * SYNOPSIS: NA | * SYNOPSIS: NA | ||
| * WRANGLER: NA | * WRANGLER: NA | ||
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| * Stan R will be out of town during the SLUUG meeting on 13 December 2023. | * Stan R will be out of town during the SLUUG meeting on 13 December 2023. | ||
| * Not sure if he will be able to attend remotely, and may not be able to record with SimpleScreenRecorder to track attendance. | * Not sure if he will be able to attend remotely, and may not be able to record with SimpleScreenRecorder to track attendance. | ||
| - | * :?: | + | * Steve Stegmann will also try recording. |
| ==== STLLINUX - Dec 21st, 2023 ==== | ==== STLLINUX - Dec 21st, 2023 ==== | ||
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| * LINUX | * LINUX | ||
| * STATUS: **Available** | * STATUS: **Available** | ||
| - | * WHAT: **To Be Determined** | + | * WHAT: **ZFS and Ubuntu** |
| - | * BY: Unknown | + | * BY: Shawn T. |
| * SYNOPSIS: NA | * SYNOPSIS: NA | ||
| * WRANGLER: NA | * WRANGLER: NA | ||
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| * 2023-12-04 Comments: | * 2023-12-04 Comments: | ||
| * **When should we do January STEERCOM meeting because of MONDAY New Year Day Holiday?** | * **When should we do January STEERCOM meeting because of MONDAY New Year Day Holiday?** | ||
| - | * :?: | + | * Tuesday, 2nd of January. |
| ==== SLACC - Jan 4th, 2024 ==== | ==== SLACC - Jan 4th, 2024 ==== | ||
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| * Need to decide whether to do live upgrade session during MAIN or STLLINUX meeting. | * Need to decide whether to do live upgrade session during MAIN or STLLINUX meeting. | ||
| * 2023-12-04 Comments: | * 2023-12-04 Comments: | ||
| - | * :?: | + | * Lee has tweeked Postfix problems. |
| + | * Mike Knight solves some email problems, set up DEMARK and some paramaters that help with the mailing lists.. | ||
| ===== Web Site SLUUG.ORG Maintenance ===== | ===== Web Site SLUUG.ORG Maintenance ===== | ||
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| * Stan R then placed Presentation Archive iframe page on all three sponsored home pages, the SLACC, STLLINUX and NEWLINUX home pages. | * Stan R then placed Presentation Archive iframe page on all three sponsored home pages, the SLACC, STLLINUX and NEWLINUX home pages. | ||
| * 2023-12-04 Comments: | * 2023-12-04 Comments: | ||
| - | * :?: | + | * Added Presentation Archive iframe page to the Steercom web page. |
| ===== Uploading Presentations ===== | ===== Uploading Presentations ===== | ||
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| * When we get them recorded, they get updated. Been purging more ZOOM recording to conserve allotted space. | * When we get them recorded, they get updated. Been purging more ZOOM recording to conserve allotted space. | ||
| * 2023-12-04 Comments: | * 2023-12-04 Comments: | ||
| - | * :?: | + | * Keeping up. |
| ===== Web Site MEETUP.COM Maintenance ===== | ===== Web Site MEETUP.COM Maintenance ===== | ||
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| * Lee suggest it has been providing some significant visibility on the Internet. | * Lee suggest it has been providing some significant visibility on the Internet. | ||
| * 2023-12-04 Comments: | * 2023-12-04 Comments: | ||
| - | * | + | * Sorta helpful. |
| - | * :?: | + | |
| ===== Our Internet Presence on Other Social Media ===== | ===== Our Internet Presence on Other Social Media ===== | ||
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| * Neither of those of us here care for social media. We need to find somebody younger. | * Neither of those of us here care for social media. We need to find somebody younger. | ||
| * 2023-12-04 Comments: | * 2023-12-04 Comments: | ||
| - | * :?: | + | * Too many different social media things and we are dinosaurs. |
| + | * We we need somebody to advertise us on social media. | ||
| ===== ANNOUNCE Mailing List ===== | ===== ANNOUNCE Mailing List ===== | ||
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| * We should note that for this past year we have been sucessful in getting BASE presentations back into managable time sessions. | * We should note that for this past year we have been sucessful in getting BASE presentations back into managable time sessions. | ||
| * Stan R suggests that next month we could remove this topic as it is no longer necessary nor relivant. | * Stan R suggests that next month we could remove this topic as it is no longer necessary nor relivant. | ||
| - | * :?: | + | * Yes, delete for next month. |
| ===== Attendance Database ===== | ===== Attendance Database ===== | ||
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| * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Becoming Gary's go to tool. Even used it during tonight's session. | * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Becoming Gary's go to tool. Even used it during tonight's session. | ||
| * 2023-12-04 Comments: | * 2023-12-04 Comments: | ||
| - | * :?: | + | * None. |
| ===== Handouts ===== | ===== Handouts ===== | ||
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| * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Stan needs a time machine or a clone to do updates. | * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Stan needs a time machine or a clone to do updates. | ||
| * 2023-12-04 Comments: | * 2023-12-04 Comments: | ||
| - | * :?: | + | * None. |
| ===== Linux Stickers ===== | ===== Linux Stickers ===== | ||
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| * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: James C. is not not here to kick around. | * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: James C. is not not here to kick around. | ||
| * 2023-12-04 Comments: | * 2023-12-04 Comments: | ||
| - | * :?: | + | * None. |
| ===== Organizational Papers ===== | ===== Organizational Papers ===== | ||
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| * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Gary not sure if still there. | * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Gary not sure if still there. | ||
| * 2023-12-04 Comments: | * 2023-12-04 Comments: | ||
| - | * :?: | + | * None. |
| ===== Sponsorships ===== | ===== Sponsorships ===== | ||
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| * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Omnitec is still quite generous. | * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Omnitec is still quite generous. | ||
| * 2023-12-04 Comments: | * 2023-12-04 Comments: | ||
| - | * :?: | + | * None. |
| ===== We Need Help ===== | ===== We Need Help ===== | ||
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| * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Not enough grey hairs out there to do us any good. | * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: Not enough grey hairs out there to do us any good. | ||
| * 2023-12-04 Comments: | * 2023-12-04 Comments: | ||
| - | * :?: | + | * Robert Levitt willing; but, needs to do it better. |
| - | ====== New Business ====== | + | ===== New Business ===== |
| // SUMMARY: After old business, we call for anything that we need to deal with.// | // SUMMARY: After old business, we call for anything that we need to deal with.// | ||
| * | * | ||
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| * Ken Johnson came to us with great presentation on short notice. | * Ken Johnson came to us with great presentation on short notice. | ||
| * 2023-12-04 Comments: | * 2023-12-04 Comments: | ||
| - | * :?: | + | * Phil Bunch all time contributions. |
| ====== Follow-up and Action Items ====== | ====== Follow-up and Action Items ====== | ||
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| * 2023-12-04 Comments: | * 2023-12-04 Comments: | ||
| * Monday, December 4th, 2023 | * Monday, December 4th, 2023 | ||
| - | * TIME: :?: | + | * TIME: 8:45pm |
| ====== Stop Video Recordings ====== | ====== Stop Video Recordings ====== | ||
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| ===== Everything below is to be removed ===== | ===== Everything below is to be removed ===== | ||
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| - | ===== October 2023 ===== | ||
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| - | ==== STEERCOM - Oct 2nd, 2023 ==== | ||
| - | * For October, the Monday prior to SLUUG General meeting. | ||
| - | * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None | ||
| - | * 2023-10-02 Comments: * We are here. | ||
| - | * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: | ||
| - | * :?: | ||
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| - | ==== SLACC - Oct 5th, 2023 ==== | ||
| - | * [[http://slacc.sluug.org/|SLACC]] | ||
| - | * First Thursday of each month. Free format, no presentation. Always up to attendance as what is covered. | ||
| - | * Usually no presentation; so, held as a **Configuration Workshop** offering installation and configuration help. | ||
| - | * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None | ||
| - | * 2023-10-02 Comments: Phil might be out town again. Will be using bookend slides again. | ||
| - | * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: | ||
| - | * Had one new person by way of MEETUP. Stan R fumbled the recording again. | ||
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| - | ==== SLUUG - Oct 11th, 2023 ==== | ||
| - | * [[http://www.sluug.org/|SLUUG General Meeting]] | ||
| - | * [[http://www.sluug.org/steercom/planning.pdf|Planning Schedule Report ]] | ||
| - | * Second Wednesday of the month. | ||
| - | * BASE (Personal Computing): | ||
| - | * STATUS: **Done** | ||
| - | * WHAT: **PiHole** | ||
| - | * BY: James Conroy | ||
| - | * SYNOPSIS: NA | ||
| - | * WRANGLER: Stan | ||
| - | * ABSTRACT: Security in Banking/Medical Web Applications. Supposedly sent us an abstract. | ||
| - | * BIO: YES | ||
| - | * REMARKS: | ||
| - | * We did not have an alternative ( secondary ) topic on hand. | ||
| - | * July SLUUG BASE was not done, see MAIN was **TMUX - A Longer Introduction** by Steve Stegmann | ||
| - | * August SLUUG BASE was **VIM Side by Side** by Stan Reichrdt | ||
| - | * September SLUUG BASE was **How to get started in emacs** by Steve Stegmann | ||
| - | * 2023-06-26 Comments for July: None | ||
| - | * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None | ||
| - | * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Future idea: **Changes in Web Applications** by Dave Forrest | ||
| - | * 2023-10-02 Comments: Will be doing on RaspberPi 4, can do with older. Doesn't need anything newer. | ||
| - | * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: | ||
| - | * Very Good. Gary made another sexist remark. | ||
| - | |||
| - | ---- | ||
| - | ** COOKIE TIME ~ ANNOUNCEMENTS ~ CALL FOR HELP (Gooey Middle): ** | ||
| - | ---- | ||
| - | |||
| - | * [[http://www.sluug.org/|SLUUG General Meeting]] | ||
| - | * [[http://www.sluug.org/steercom/planning.pdf|Planning Schedule Report ]] | ||
| - | * Second Wednesday of the month. | ||
| - | * MAIN (Professional Computing): | ||
| - | * STATUS: **Done** | ||
| - | * WHAT: **Risc-V Architecture Differences** | ||
| - | * BY: Carl Perry | ||
| - | * SYNOPSIS: NA | ||
| - | * WRANGLER: Jonathan Drews | ||
| - | * ABSTRACT: YES | ||
| - | * BIO: YES | ||
| - | * REMARKS: | ||
| - | * We did not have an alternative ( secondary ) topic on hand. | ||
| - | * July SLUUG MAIN was **TMUX ~ A Longer Introduction** by Steve Stegmann | ||
| - | * August SLUUG MAIN was **Hot Restore of a MySQL database** By Lee Lammert | ||
| - | * September SLUUG MAIN was **Microsoft's Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL2)** by Jon Newbolt | ||
| - | * 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Nothing yet. Johnathan Drews trying to line something up about a game developer. | ||
| - | * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None | ||
| - | * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None | ||
| - | * 2023-10-02 Comments: None. | ||
| - | * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: | ||
| - | * Jon Newbold had to reschedule to 8 November due to work travel requirement. **A Great Disturbance in the Force**. | ||
| - | * Jonathan Drews was able to bring in Carl Perry with this presentation on Risc-V Architecture Differences. | ||
| - | * Gary really enjoyed talk and extra material at end. | ||
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| - | ==== STLLINUX - Oct 19th, 2023 ==== | ||
| - | * [[https://stllug.sluug.org/|STLLINUX]] is the St. Louis Linux Users Group. | ||
| - | * [[http://www.sluug.org/steercom/planning.pdf|Planning Schedule Report ]] | ||
| - | * Eight days after SLUUG MAIN General Meeting. | ||
| - | * LINUX | ||
| - | * STATUS: **Done** | ||
| - | * WHAT: **A Mix of Tech Topics** | ||
| - | * BY: Ken Johnson | ||
| - | * SYNOPSIS: NO | ||
| - | * WRANGLER: Gary | ||
| - | * ABSTRACT: YES | ||
| - | * BIO: YES | ||
| - | * REMARKS: | ||
| - | * We did not have an alternative (secondary) topic on hand. | ||
| - | * July STLLINUX was **Social Media for Techies** by Scott Granneman | ||
| - | * August STLLINUX was **nushell** by Ed Howland and Robert Citek | ||
| - | * September STLLINUX was **Podman Desktop** by Chris Bowland of RedHat | ||
| - | * 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None | ||
| - | * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Not yet confirmed; but, considering (1) CentOS Stream (2) Redhat Podman (management for Docker). | ||
| - | * 2023-10-02 Comments: Better NOT to have a speaker back-to-back, one meeting immediately right after another. | ||
| - | * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: | ||
| - | * We never had anyone confirmed early. Gary developed a new ulser. Ken did wonderful short notice package. | ||
| - | |||
| - | ==== NEWLINUX - Oct 24th, 2023 ==== | ||
| - | // SUMMARY: | ||
| - | Previously named Hazelwood LUG (HZWLUG), then Newcomer LUG (NEWLUG). Now, Newcomer Linux User Group is designated as NEWLINUX. | ||
| - | The NEWLINUX home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which we could start. | ||
| - | Usually no presentation; so, held as a **Beginner Workshop** offering installation and configuration help. | ||
| - | Topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover way more than one topic. | ||
| - | // | ||
| - | * [[http://newlug.sluug.org |NEWLUG]] was how we named our Linux Users Group (LUG) for Linux Newcomers. | ||
| - | * [[http://newlinux.org |NEWLINUX]] is name that we can frequently use for our Newcomer Linux Users Group. | ||
| - | * Fourth Tuesday of the month. | ||
| - | * Free format, no presentation. Always up to attendance as to what is covered. | ||
| - | * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None | ||
| - | * 2023-10-02 Comments: None. | ||
| - | * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: | ||
| - | * Again had some difficulty and delay opening up public JITSI session. Also there were frequent drop outs during meeting. | ||
| - | * Made a bookends slide-work for this Beginner Workshop meeting. Bookends working somewhat well with Announcements and main topic of Remote Support. | ||
| - | * Gary went to private home site to assist a low expertise Linux user. The user was running Linux Mint 19 that was getting End-of-Support notifications. | ||
| - | * One new attendee later wrote that he was having some unreproducible problem signing up for ANNOUNCE mailing list. Sent him signup nomination. | ||
| - | * Two, and possibly four new attendees ( not sure, because they only would put in first names ). | ||
| - | * Because Gary was providing on site assistance, he wasn't keeping watch on chat room activity. | ||
| - | * Phil B helped a little bit with chat; but, looking at the recording later, a lot of chat postings seemed to have been missed. | ||
| - | * Frequent attendees Wayne S and Tony C were very helpful with lots of input during the meeting. | ||
| - | * :?: | ||
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| - | ==== STEERCOM - Oct 30th, 2023 ==== | ||
| - | * For November, the Monday prior to SLUUG General meeting. | ||
| - | * 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None | ||
| - | * 2023-10-02 Comments: None. | ||
| - | * 2023-10-30 Comments for November: | ||
| - | * Gary is in bat cave with Lee. | ||
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