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SLUUG Steering Committee

2 October 2023

NOTE: Minutes posted on the Wiki are always unofficial. Schedules for upcoming presentations are always tentative. (Some more tentative than others!)

Location

  • No physical meeting until further notice
    • When we again have physical meetings, we would like to continue video meetings in conjunction with physical meetings.
  • 2023-10-02 Comments:
    • None

Agenda Changes

SUMMARY: This is where we consider any additions, changes, deletions, sequence changes, or other changes to items in the prepared agenda.

  * HISTORY: 
  * We can consider changes prior to all reviews, planning and OLD BUSINESS items.
    * By jumping ahead, then back, without altering agenda layout sequence.
  * Do NOT alter agenda layout sequence, during current meeting.
  * Moving a listed item out of sequence makes later editing difficult.
  * 
  * We can jump to **Old Business** items, consider, then back to usual sequence.
  * We can jump to **New Business** section, create new item, consider, then jump back to usual sequence.
  * By NOT altering agenda layout sequence during the meeting, that will keep it easier to build the next agenda.
  • AGENDA CHANGE:
  • QUESTION: Are there any additions, deletions, or other changes to sequence of items in the prepared agenda?
  • 2023-10-02 Comments:
    • None
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Start Video Recording

  • QUESTION: Have the recorders been started ( they should be, before call to order )?
  • 2023-10-02 Comments:
    • 6:39pm

Start STEERCOM Meeting

  • QUESTION: When was STEERCOM meeting called to order?
  • 2023-10-02 Comments:
    • Monday, October 2nd, 2023
    • TIME: 6:40pm

Attendees

Listed alphabetically by last name:

* James Conroy

* Jonathan Drews

:?: * David Forrest

:?: * Ken Johnson

* Lee Lammert

* Gary Meyer

* Stan Reichardt

:?: * Steve Stegmann

:?: * Sean Twiehaus

Secretary Report

SUMMARY: Somebody has to build the agenda and then record the minutes.

  • The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
  • 2023-01-09 Comments: Stan R acting only as recording secretary.
  • 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Stan R acting only as recording secretary. Gary nominated Stan R for an Academy Award
  • 2023-02-27 Comments for March:: Stan R acting only as recording secretary.
  • 2023-04-03 Comments: Stan R acting only as recording secretary.
  • 2023-05-01 Comments: Stan R acting only as recording secretary.
  • 2023-06-05 Comments: Stan R acting only as recording Secretary. Sean offered but Stan declined.
  • 2023-06-26 Comments for July:
    • Stan R would like Sean T to act as recording Secretary ( if present and he still would ).
    • Sean T not here, so Stan R. will act.
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August: Stan R acting only as recording Secretary.
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September:
    • Stan R would like Sean T to act as recording Secretary ( if present and he still would ).
    • Sean T not here, so Stan R. will act.
  • 2023-10-02 Comments:
    • Stan R would like Sean T to act as recording Secretary ( if present and he still would ).
    • Sean T not here, so Stan R. will act.

Treasurer Report

Balance as of 1 September $2,765.48
Balance as of 30 September $2,765.48
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August:
    • Donation received form Dave Forrest!!!!
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None.
  • 2023-10-02 Comments for October: No activity.

Calendar Report

SUMMARY: We maintain a calendar of technical events in the Greater St. Louis area and surrounding regions.

  * HISTORY: 
  * Not all events are official/sponsored SLUUG events. All sponsored events are shown in red.
  * Items have been added and corrected by Stan R, Gary Meyer and Don Ellis.
  * Items listed on this calendar were used to feed the ANNOUNCE weekly mailing.
  * Events on HIATUS are NOT counted! Historical items are NOT counted!  
  * Only face-to-face meetings were counted!
  * Detailed breakdown showing cancelled, defunct, delayed, missed, moved, and postponed meetings was being done.
  * The page has been altered to allow showing separate displays of supported meetings from sponsored meetings.
  * Stan R has discontinued doing detailed breakdown of calendar entries believing it is too much effort for too little value.
  • SLUUG Calendar is a Google Calendar available on our web site.
  • Count of number of events listed, each month, as of end of September 2023:
Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Year
2011 xxx xxx 105 108 103 117 105 105 105 113 103 96 2011
2012 110 104 122 123 138 111 99 124 122 133 114 111 2012
2013 123 128 136 147 144 146 139 119 145 167 153 140 2013
2014 143 159 174 165 188 165 132 136 173 165 141 107 2014
2015 171 179 177 183 176 168 162 176 206 294 236 197 2015
2016 260 277 314 231 183 191 157 166 222 224 212 157 2016
2017 133 141 177 168 137 143 124 158 173 163 168 129 2017
2018 165 177 166 179 162 165 147 176 166 184 163 113 2018
2019 131 160 173 171 145 155 130 144 157 179 182 127 2019
2020 157 172 188 147 152 174 171 154 168 163 184 155 2020
2021 175 170 174 171 172 178 188 179 187 176 194 193 2021
2022 210 219 244 219 234 228 251 229 264 268 270 238 2022
2023 265 288 304 297 300 303 299 300 ??? ??? ??? ??? 2023
  * LEGEND:
  * Greyed out areas indicate corrections or never previously reported counts.
  * xxx - numbers not recorded.
  * ??? - Future Numbers.
  * Stopped counting general Saint Louis County Library events in May 2016.
  * Re-counted April 2016 without library events.
  * Count of calendar entries for May is down from previous months. No explanation is given.
  * Count of calendar entries for March 2020 misleading because of 
  * Limited maintenance effort for March 2020 because CORONAVIRUS-19 self-isolation effects.
  * Started counting **moved** and **delayed** items in April 2020 as considered being useful.
  * Improvements in Google Calendar feature limits to five days processing at at time, takes
    * about 10 times as long to perform counting. Much more tedious.
  * Five day limitation "improvement" gone, no longer takes so much longer to count.
  • ISSUES:
  • Originally only local STL face-to-face meetings were counted. Started adding remote meetings.
  • The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
  • 2023-01-09 Comments:
    • Of the 238 total, 1 were cancelled, 43 (x~), 0 defunct, 7 delayed, 1 missed, and 4 moved, and 0 postponed; so, leaving 182 active.
  • 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Delayed
  • 2023-02-27 Comments for March: Delayed
  • 2023-04-03 Comments: The calendar counts are on Stan R's machine that is currently NOT functioning ( to be repaired ).
  • 2023-05-01 Comments:
    • Stan R's machine miraculously came back to life and some previous count extracts can be recovered.
    • Now he has to locate those files, or rebuild them from scratch.
  • 2023-06-05 Comments: Will post monthly totals later.
  • 2023-06-26 Comments for July:
    • Delayed total counts are now listed.
    • Stan R has discontinued doing detailed breakdown of calendar entries believing it is too much effort with too little value.
    • Stan R has split the GOOGLE calendar page display to allow separate displays of supported from display of sponsored meetings.
    • Stan R and Gary M are designating supported and sponsored meetings as time and effort permits during creation and editing.
    • Too early to do total count for the June calendar report. Will add June count after month is over.
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August:
    • Due to weekend power outage Stan R didn't get most recent months; but, have listed from first of year. Did not do June and July, yet.
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Somebody does good work. Gary entries, Stan just corrects them.
  • 2023-10-02 Comments:
    • :?:

Subscriber Report

SUMMARY: Mailing List Report combined with MEETUP membership count, now called Subscriber Report.

  * HISTORY: 
  * We counted how many were on each SLUUG mailing list, then started using MEETUP dot COM site. 
  * These numbers roughly estimate size of our community over time. Both growth and shrinkage.
  • Subscriber numbers (approximate) as of end of September 2023:
Year 2017 Year
List Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec List
MEETUP 273 285 291 299 301 302 304 315 319 325 336 340 MEETUP
ANNOUNCE 582 580 575 570 569 569 569 568 566 562 562 559 ANNOUNCE
DISCUSS 197 196 193 190 191 192 191 192 191 189 188 189 DISCUSS
STEERCOM 36 36 35 34 34 34 34 34 33 33 33 33 STEERCOM
SYSADMIN 20 20 20 23 23 23 23 23 22 22 22 22 SYSADMIN
Year 2018 Year
List Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec List
MEETUP 348 360 367 372 375 377 385 390 393 402 408 416 MEETUP
ANNOUNCE 556 544 543 543 545 542 535 534 533 531 531 533 ANNOUNCE
DISCUSS 188 188 187 187 187 187 187 185 184 184 185 183 DISCUSS
STEERCOM 33 33 33 33 32 32 32 32 32 31 31 31 STEERCOM
SYSADMIN 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 SYSADMIN
Year 2019 Year
List Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec List
MEETUP 416 423 432 443 452 464 466 473 472 480 488 497 MEETUP
ANNOUNCE 532 532 532 534 519 516 516 514 513 516 513 510 ANNOUNCE
DISCUSS 184 182 181 182 183 183 191 190 191 191 190 190 DISCUSS
STEERCOM 31 31 31 31 31 31 31 30 30 31 32 32 STEERCOM
SYSADMIN 22 22 22 22 22 22 16 16 16 16 16 16 SYSADMIN
Year 2020 Year
List Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec List
MEETUP 501 514 516 521 527 535 547 555 564 570 577 590 MEETUP
ANNOUNCE 504 502 501 501 500 499 497 495 492 491 490 490 ANNOUNCE
DISCUSS 188 190 189 191 191 189 189 188 188 189 190 188 DISCUSS
STEERCOM 31 31 31 30 30 30 30 24 23 23 23 23 STEERCOM
SYSADMIN 16 16 16 16 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 SYSADMIN
Year 2021 Year
List Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec List
MEETUP 603 613 626 631 640 650 652 658 678 687 698 710 MEETUP
ANNOUNCE 489 488 482 480 480 479 477 478 479 481 480 477 ANNOUNCE
DISCUSS 188 189 188 190 190 189 189 189 190 195 195 195 DISCUSS
STEERCOM 22 22 22 23 23 23 24 23 23 23 24 24 STEERCOM
SYSADMIN 15 15 14 14 14 14 14 14 14 13 15 15 SYSADMIN
Year 2022 Year
List Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec List
MEETUP 718 727 730 751 762 770 787 806 823 830 840 871 MEETUP
ANNOUNCE 480 475 474 474 473 472 471 469 469 469 470 469 ANNOUNCE
DISCUSS 198 198 197 196 197 196 196 197 199 199 199 199 DISCUSS
STEERCOM 24 24 24 25 26 26 25 25 25 25 24 24 STEERCOM
SYSADMIN 15 15 15 15 15 16 16 15 15 15 15 15 SYSADMIN
Year 2023 Year
List Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec List
MEETUP 886 898 918 927 936 945 960 976 995 ??? ??? ??? MEETUP
ANNOUNCE 469 470 470 470 470 470 468 468 ??? ??? ??? ??? ANNOUNCE
DISCUSS 200 202 203 204 203 202 202 202 ??? ??? ??? ??? DISCUSS
STEERCOM 24 24 24 24 24 24 24 25 ?? ?? ?? ??? STEERCOM
SYSADMIN 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 16 ?? ?? ?? ??? SYSADMIN
  * LEGEND:
  * Numbers as of end of each month.
  * Blocking of mailing list attachments not completely configured yet.
  * This will be much easier to do on BOCK.
  * ANNOUNCE mailing list.
    * Still no volunteer editor to do a quarterly or monthly newsletter.
  * Command used to generate these (as root on Bud):
    * /usr/local/mailman/bin/list_members **list_name** | wc -l (This doesn't seem to work on Bock.)
  * Greyed out areas indicate corrections or never previously reported counts.
  * xxx - numbers not recorded.
  * ??? - Future Numbers.
  • ISSUES:
  • We do NOT have any account access or control to our presence and videos on Google+ or YouTube.
  • We do NOT know how or what to count in Google+ NOR do we know how to metric videos.
  • We do NOT know how or what to count in YouTube NOR do we know how to metric videos.
  • No way to change meeting dates or set temporary hiatus in Google+
  • Don was to investigate Google+ status
  • Don was to place credentials for YouTube and any others on Bock /home/sluug
  • The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
  • 2023-01-09 Comments: None
  • 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Gary noticed St Louis IBM Meetup group went out of existence over last two months time. Last thing they did was presentation for SLUUG on replacing Centose in Fall of 2021.
  • 2023-02-27 Comments for March:: None
  • 2023-04-03 Comments: None
  • 2023-05-01 Comments: None
  • 2023-06-05 Comments: Will post later.
  • 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Too early to do counts for the June subscriber report. Will add June counts after month is over.
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August:
    • Due to weekend power outage Stan R didn't get most resent months; but, have listed from first of year. Did not do June and July, yet.
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September:
    • Stan R has put in numbers for June, July and August.
    • Stan R added Gary M's alternate email address to STEERCOM and SYSADM lists.
    • Stan R thinks MEETUP dot COM monthly increases are mostly phony.
  • 2023-10-02 Comments:
    • :?:

Attendance Report

SUMMARY: Somewhat reflects the community interest in topics. Or, how well we publicised event.

  * HISTORY: 
  * Initial mail list subscriptions were prompted by attendance sheets.
  * Group leaders are responsible for taking attendance at face-to-face meetings.
  * Remote session attendance display with ZOOM does NOT work automatically.
  * Remote session attendance done best using extra recording with Linux SimpleScreenRecorder software. 
  • Blank attendance sheets are available here
  • Attendance numbers, as of end of September 2023:
Year 2017 Year
Meeting Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Meeting
Steercom 8 6 8 6 7 7 5 6 6 4 6 3 Steercom
SLACC 7 12 10 5 7 (10) 6 7 8 11 xx 6 SLACC
SLUUG 20 17 24 17 10 13 7 13 12 21 14 16 SLUUG
STLLINUX 14 15 18 14 15 14 18 16 16 12 (27) xx STLLINUX
NEWLUG 9 10 xx 7 7 8 7 5 8 5 7 9 NEWLUG
Year 2018 Year
Meeting Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Meeting
Steercom 7 3 6 7 6 6 5 5 7 5 5 4 Steercom
SLACC 6 6 7 9 6 6 7 6 7 4 4 5 SLACC
SLUUG 14 13 13 18 15 11 8 15 14 14 10 13 SLUUG
STLLINUX 12 8 13 11 13 10 11 15 13 xx 9 9 STLLINUX
NEWLUG 8 11 8 11 11 9 10 12 9 7 10 5 NEWLUG
Year 2019 Year
Meeting Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Meeting
Steercom 6 6 6 7 5 8 6 6 8 8 7 8 Steercom
SLACC 6 6 7 7 8 7 6 10 10 9 6 9 SLACC
SLUUG 15 14 13 18 12 15 17 (20) 18 14 17 25 SLUUG
STLLINUX 18 11 11 16 12 16 20 16 14 18 18 17 STLLINUX
NEWLUG 9 5 11 10 8 7 10 13 9 5 6 3 NEWLUG
Year 2020 Year
Meeting Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Meeting
Steercom 4 6 6 (8) (5) (7) (6) (6) (7) (6) (6) (5) Steercom
SLACC 9 8 (6) (8) (7) (9)(11) (7) (10) (10) (8) (8) SLACC
SLUUG 17 13 (xx) (xx) (18) (22)(29) (22) (16) (xx) (17) (25) SLUUG
STLLINUX 18 12 (12) (xx) (20) (19)(25) (10) (16) (23) (15) (xx) STLLINUX
NEWLUG 6 6 - (10) (13) (13)(12) (11) (11) (12) (15) (9) NEWLUG
Year 2021 Year
Meeting Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Meeting
Steercom (5) (4) (5) (5) (5) (5) (6) (7) (5) (7) (6) (6) Steercom
SLACC (10) (9) (9) (8) (14) (10)(10) (11) (6) (9) (15) (15) SLACC
SLUUG (15) (26) (23) (25) (17) (22)(17) (18) (14) (22) (25) (19) SLUUG
STLLINUX (20) (19) (20) (19) (17) (17)(15) (18) (20) (20) (25) (20) STLLINUX
NEWLUG (13) (15) (16) (14) (9) (10)(10) (11) (15) (12) (16) (10) NEWLINUX
Year 2022 Year
Meeting Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Meeting
Steercom (6) (5) (7) (5) (5) (6) (4) (6) (6) (6) (5) (5) Steercom
SLACC (11) ( 9) (12) (14) (12) (11)(13) (11) (8) (12) (9) (9) SLACC
SLUUG (25) (28) (33) (30) (22) (21)(25) (26) (19) (18) (19) (20) SLUUG
STLLINUX (28) (21) (20) (20) (21) (17)(21) (18) (14) (20) (16) (33) STLLINUX
NEWLUG (14) (xx) (12) (14) (13) (12)(14) (12) (14) (13) (10) (16) NEWLINUX
Year 2023 Year
Meeting Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Meeting
Steercom (4) (6) (6) (7) (7) (7) (5) (7) (6) (?) (?) (?) Steercom
SLACC (10) (10) ( 6) (11) ( 7) (10)( 7) ( 7) (7) (??) (?) (?) SLACC
SLUUG (17) (18) (13) (23) (21) (21)(15) (18) (20) (??) (??) (??) SLUUG
STLLINUX (19) (16) (19) (24) (21) (19)(18) (17) (14) (??) (??) (??) STLLINUX
NEWLUG (12) (14) (14) (14) ( 8) ( 8)(14) (10) (11) (??) (??) (??) NEWLINUX
  * LEGEND:
  * Greyed out areas indicate corrections or never previously reported counts.
  * xx - numbers not yet recorded, attendance not taken, or sheet missing.
  * ?? - Future Numbers.
  *(9) - Number in parentheses is head count. Use head count if greater than attendance sheet count (or sheet missing).
  * *  - sLUGs was STL Linux Users Group for Seniors with initial meeting 8 February 2015. Discontinued October 2017.
  * *  - SNUG SuSe was STL Novell Users Group with lunch meeting.  Discontinued December 2017.
  * -  - dash indicates no meeting (NEWLUG March 2020).
  • ISSUES:
  • Remote ZOOM sessions do not provide record of attendance. Currently done by Stan R with separate video recording.
  • The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
  • 2023-01-09 Comments: None
  • 2023-01-30 Comments for February: None
  • 2023-02-27 Comments for March:: None
  • 2023-04-03 Comments:
    • The SimpleScreenRecorder SLUUG recording is on Stan R's machine that is currently NOT functioning ( to be repaired ).
  • 2023-05-01 Comments:
    • Stan R machine miraculously came back to life and some lost March recordings were recovered ( with STLLINUX count ).
  • 2023-06-05 Comments: SLACC attendance up slightly and NEWLINUX attendance a bit lower.
  • 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Too early to do count for the NEWLINUX attendance. NEWLINUX meeting is tomorrow.
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Steady attendance numbers, kind of same each month.
  • 2023-10-02 Comments: September numbers in prior years similar; so, the topic not necessarily reason for low attendance.

Meeting Review Comments

SUMMARY: We try to analyse what happened or what was presented at the previous months meetings.

September 2023

STEERCOM - Aug 28th, 2023

  • For September STEERCOM meeting because of Labor Day HOLIDAY. About a week earlier than usual.
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Were here tonight ( except for Gary, late as usual, feeling puny ).
  • 2023-10-02 Comments:
  • :?:

HOLIDAY - Labor Day ~ September 4th, 2023

SLACC - Sep 7th, 2023

    • First Thursday of each month. Free formant no presntation. Always up to attendance as what is covered.
    • Usually holds a Linux Workshop offering installation and configuration help - no presentation
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Expect questions from NEWLINUX meeting that Phil might answer.
  • 2023-10-02 Comments: Fairly good meeting, participation by some frequent attenders.

SLUUG - Sep 13th, 2023

  • Second Wednesday of the month.
  • BASE (Personal Computing):
    • STATUS: Done
    • WHAT: Beginning with Emacs
    • BY: Steve Stegmann
    • SYNOPSIS: TBD
    • WRANGLER: TBD
    • ABSTRACT: TBD
    • BIO: TBD
    • REMARKS:
      • We do/did/did not have an alternative ( secondary ) topic on hand.
      • June SLUUG BASE was Ergonomic Keyboard Design by Eric Trinkle
      • July SLUUG BASE was not done, see MAIN was TMUX - A Longer Introduction by Steve Stegmann
      • August SLUUG BASE was VIM Side by SIDE by Stan Reichardt
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August: Maybe Steve Stegmann on Beginning with Emacs.
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Steve swallowed the hook.
  • 2023-10-02 Comments:
    • Stan thinks Steve should have include better sample material.

COOKIE TIME ~ ANNOUNCEMENTS ~ CALL FOR HELP (Gooey Middle):


  • MAIN (Professional Computing):
    • STATUS: Done
    • WHAT: Microsoft Windows Subsystem for Linux
    • BY: Jon Newbolt
    • SYNOPSIS: TBD
    • WRANGLER: TBD
    • ABSTRACT: TBD
    • BIO: TBD
    • REMARKS:
      • We do/did/did not have an alternative ( secondary ) topic on hand.
      • June SLUUG MAIN was Apple Update and More by Scott Granneman
      • July SLUUG MAIN was TMUX ~ A Longer Introduction by Steve Stegmann
      • August SLUUG MAIN was Hot restore of a MySQL databse by Lee Lammert
  • 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Nothing yet. Johnathan Drews trying to line something up about a game developer.
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Also second talk in October will be MS Windows Subsystem for Android. We have questions.
  • 2023-10-02 Comments:
    • Stan thought presenter's speaking voice wasn't good. Speaker's presentation was rather short.

STLLINUX - Sep 21st, 2023

  • STLLINUX is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
    • Nine days after SLUUG MAIN General Meeting.
  • LINUX
    • STATUS: Done
    • WHAT: Podman Desktop
    • BY: Chris Bowland of RedHat
    • SYNOPSIS: TBD
    • WRANGLER: TBD
    • ABSTRACT: TBD
    • BIO: TBD
    • REMARKS:
      • We did not have an alternative (secondary) topic on hand.
      • June STLLINUX was Learning VIM by Stan Reichardt
      • July STLLINUX was Social Media for Techies by Scott Granneman
      • August STLLINUX was nuShell by Ed Howland and Robert Citek
  • 2023-06-26 Comments for July: None
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August: Nothing yet.
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Not yet confirmed; but, considering (1) CentOS Stream (2) Redhat Podman (management for Docker).
  • 2023-10-02 Comments:
    • Stan wasn't interested, only there to record the meeting. Lee thinking RedHat Podman solution is looking for a problem.
    • James likes; but, hasn't really yet found need for it.

NEWLINUX - Sep 26th, 2023

SUMMARY: Previously named Hazelwood LUG (HZWLUG), then Newcomer LUG (NEWLUG). Now, Newcomer Linux User Group is designated as NEWLINUX. The NEWLINUX home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which we could start. Topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover way more than one topic.

  • NEWLUG was how we named our Linux Users Group (LUG) for Linux Newcomers.
    • NEWLINUX is name that we can frequently use for our Newcomer Linux Users Group.
    • Fourth Tuesday of the month.
    • Free format, no presentation. Always up to attendance as to what is covered.
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None
  • 2023-10-02 Comments:
    • Stan was late starting meeting, and had difficulty clearing browser cache to make connection. Spent some time explain that others could start JITSI meeting.
    • Stan shared new bookend slides, describing and outlining the flow and structure of the meeting. Stan making similar slides for all 4 meetings.
    • Stan failed to turn on recording of the meeting for acurate headcount. Too many things to do at once.
    • Phil Bunch was out of town and not available remotely.
    • Had 3 newcomers, one very shy. Frequent attendees Sean Twiehaus and Tony C were very helpful with lots of tips during the meeting.
    • Stan JITSI connections failed twice; but, later did capture chat room texts. Emailed chat copies and discriptive slides to one of the newcomers.

Meeting Schedule

SUMMARY: This is where we discuss available and confirmed meeting topics. GOAL: To map out meeting topics for as much as 3 months out.

  • No physical face-to-face meetings until further notice.
  • When we again have physical meetings, we would like to continue video meetings in conjunction with any physical meetings.
  • We try to track prospects to give presentations at our SLUUG General (SLUUG) meeting and LINUX (STLLINUX) meetings.
  • We try to segregate topic types as either BASE, MAIN or LINUX, with BASE and MAIN given at the General meeting (SLUUG).
  • BASE topics should be oriented toward simpler Personal Computing. Usually given at General meeting (SLUUG).
  • Short is good. Something fundamental, introductory, instructive or simple.
  • MAIN topics should be oriented more toward advanced or Professional Computing. Usually given at General meeting (SLUUG).
  • Something more advanced, detailed, important, profound, new, significant, timely or useful.
  • LINUX topics often could be either at the General meeting or at the St. Louis Linux Users Group (STLLINUX) meetings.
  • We want to have alternative (secondary) topic on hand if primary speaker doesn't show.
  • Gary will continue to explore different computer manufacturers (ex: Cray) who might be able to do presentation "Where are they now?"

October 2023

STEERCOM - Oct 2nd, 2023

  • For October, the Monday prior to SLUUG General meeting.
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None
  • 2023-10-02 Comments: * We are here.

SLACC - Oct 5th, 2023

    • First Thursday of each month. Free formant no presentation. Always up to attendance as what is covered.
    • Usually holds a Linux Workshop offering installation and configuration help - no presentation
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None
  • 2023-10-02 Comments: Phil might be out town again. Will be using bookend slides again.

SLUUG - Oct 11th, 2023

  • Second Wednesday of the month.
  • BASE (Personal Computing):
    • STATUS: Confirm
    • WHAT: PiHole
    • BY: James Conroy
    • SYNOPSIS: NA
    • WRANGLER: Stan
    • ABSTRACT: Security in Banking/Medical Web Applications. Supposedly sent us an abstract.
    • BIO: YES
  • REMARKS:
    • We did not have an alternative ( secondary ) topic on hand.
    • June SLUUG BASE was Ergonomic Keyboard Design by Eric Trinkle
    • July SLUUG BASE was not done, see MAIN was TMUX - A Longer Introduction by Steve Stegmann
  • 2023-06-26 Comments for July: None
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Future idea: Changes in Web Applications by Dave Forrest
  • 2023-10-02 Comments:
    • Will be doing on RaspberPi 4, can do with older. Doesn't need anything newer.

COOKIE TIME ~ ANNOUNCEMENTS ~ CALL FOR HELP (Gooey Middle):


  • Second Wednesday of the month.
  • MAIN (Professional Computing):
    • STATUS: Confirmed
    • WHAT: Microsoft Windows Subsystem for Android
    • BY: Jon Newbold
    • SYNOPSIS: NA
    • WRANGLER: Gary
    • ABSTRACT: YES
    • BIO: YES
    • REMARKS:
      • We did not have an alternative ( secondary ) topic on hand.
      • June SLUUG MAIN was Apple Update and More by Scott Granneman
      • July SLUUG MAIN was TMUX ~ A Longer Introduction by Steve Stegmann
      • August SLUUG MAIN was x
  • 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Nothing yet. Johnathan Drews trying to line something up about a game developer.
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None
  • 2023-10-02 Comments:
    • None.

STLLINUX - Oct 19th, 2023

  • STLLINUX is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
    • Nine days after SLUUG MAIN General Meeting.
  • LINUX
    • STATUS: Available
    • WHAT: To Be Determined (TBD)
    • BY: TBD
    • SYNOPSIS: NO
    • WRANGLER: NA
    • ABSTRACT: YES
    • BIO: YES
    • REMARKS:
      • We did not have an alternative (secondary) topic on hand.
      • June STLLINUX was Learning VIM by Stan Reichardt
      • July STLLINUX was Social Media for Techies by Scott Granneman
      • August STLLINUX was Podman Desktop by Chris Bowland of RedHat
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Not yet confirmed; but, considering (1) CentOS Stream (2) Redhat Podman (management for Docker).
  • 2023-10-02 Comments:
    • Better NOT to have a speaker back-to-back, one meeting immediately right after another.

NEWLINUX - Oct 24th, 2023

SUMMARY: Previously named Hazelwood LUG (HZWLUG), then Newcomer LUG (NEWLUG). Now, Newcomer Linux User Group is designated as NEWLINUX. The NEWLINUX home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which we could start. Topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover way more than one topic.

  • NEWLUG was how we named our Linux Users Group (LUG) for Linux Newcomers.
    • NEWLINUX is name that we can frequently use for our Newcomer Linux Users Group.
    • Fourth Tuesday of the month.
    • Free format, no presentation. Always up to attendance as to what is covered.
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None
  • 2023-10-02 Comments:
    • None.

STEERCOM - Oct 30th, 2023

  • For November, the Monday prior to SLUUG General meeting.
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None
  • 2023-10-02 Comments:
  • None.

November 2023

SLACC - Nov 2nd, 2023

Daylight Saving Time - Nov 5th, 2023

SLUUG - Nov 8th, 2023

HOLIDAY - Veterans Day ~ Nov 11th, 2023

STLLINUX - Nov 16th, 2023

NEWLINUX - Nov 28th, 2023

December 2023

STEERCOM - Dec 4th, 2023

SLACC - Dec 7th, 2023

SLUUG - Dec 13th, 2023

STLLINUX - Dec 21st, 2023

HOLIDAY - Christmas Day ~ Dec 25th, 2023

NEWLINUX - Dec 26th, 2023

Old Business

Server Admin

SUMMARY: We put up a server on the Internet for email, it grew, and now we have to maintain it.

  • The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
  • 2023-01-09 Comments: DNS zone transfers broken right now. Investigating. Everything else working fine.
  • 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Running fine. No rush to go to Debian 11.
  • 2023-02-27 Comments for March::
    • Removed comments prior to January 2023.
    • Running fine. BOCK is a virtual machine. Host will be updated some time in March.
  • 2023-04-03 Comments:
    • Running. Kernel update brought down for just 5 to 10 minutes. No complaints.
    • Mike Knight found 4.4 Gb of data that Stan R had temporarily hosted for BUGLug.
  • 2023-05-01 Comments: Still running. Expect to upgrade from Debian 10 to 11 sometime this year.
  • 2023-06-05 Comments: Seems to be working ( many thanks to maintenance script written by Mike Knight ).
  • 2023-06-26 Comments for July:

=

Version Released Debian Security Support Debian Long Term Support
Debian 10 Buster 2019-07-16 2022-09-10 2024-06-30
Debian 11 Bullseye 2021-08-14 2024-07-01 2026-06-30
Debian 12 BookWorm 2023-06-10 2026-06-10 2028-06-10
On BOCK we are currently running Debian 10 Buster.
FYI Debian 12 was just released.
Debian end of life dates available here https://endoflife.date/debian/
We want to wait until cooler weather, in the Fall. Nobody is paying us to panic.

=

  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August: We need to post to DISCUSS about a project to upgrade BOCK.
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Biggest concern on BOCK upgrade is around MAILMAN.
  • 2023-10-02 Comments:
    • Planning to move from Debian 10 to Debian 11. Emcee should ask for voluteers.

Web Site SLUUG.ORG Maintenance

SUMMARY: We have a traditional Internet presence with the existence of our main SLUUG web site.

  • The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
  • 2023-01-09 Comments: Mike Knight posted about broken and missing links. That prompted Stan R to make some corrections ( not all yet ).
  • 2023-01-30 Comments for February:
    • Some discussion about making STLLINUX site more resemble SLUUG front page.
    • Consensus that it would be good idea and should clean up some Google Lighthouse complaints.
  • 2023-02-27 Comments for March::
    • Mike Knight posted remarking that we frequently state in many places NO PHYSICAL MEETINGS until further notice.
    • His question is "Should they just state NO PHYSICAL MEETINGS.
    • Or is there a plan for future real face-to-face meetings, and thus the hope for a "further notice"?
    • Per Stan R there are no plans for future face-to-face SLACC and NEWLINUX meetings.
    • Per Lee Nic-N-Elana's restaurant going strong ( old site ).
    • We will leave narrative, so there is some hope.
  • 2023-04-03 Comments: Stan R. way behind in website updates.
  • 2023-05-01 Comments: Stan R. starting to catch up ( somewhat ). Barely keeping up. Little reorganization as hoped.
  • 2023-06-05 Comments: Mostly simple barely keeping up. No progress on keeping things logical or stream lined.
  • 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Stan R still maintaining and not drowning. Treading water.
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August: Nothing important.
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Steady as we go.
  • 2023-10-02 Comments: Usual. Not enough time to clean up much.

Uploading Presentations

SUMMARY: We have recorded many of our past meetings and made some of them available on the Internet.

  • The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
  • 2023-01-09 Comments:
  • 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Kind of keeping up with that. Need to delete a few excess Steercom videos.
  • 2023-02-27 Comments for March: No problems.
  • 2023-04-03 Comments: Keeping up ( I think ~ Stan R ).
  • 2023-05-01 Comments: Keeping up. Might have some old ones that haven't been uploaded and linked before. Slow but steady.
  • 2023-06-05 Comments: Keeping up, and been marking more for removal.
  • 2023-06-26 Comments for July:
    • Mostly unaltered videos are uploaded ( nothing done to reduce quality or size ).
    • QUESTION: Do we have any measurement of how many of uploaded videos are being viewed?
    • We won't worry about it, if isn't burden on Lee's operation.
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August:
    • Keeping pace.
    • Stan R had problem downloading files from ZOOM. Lee did download, then Stan was able to finish processing.
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None
  • 2023-10-02 Comments: Good, no problems.

Web Site MEETUP.COM Maintenance

SUMMARY: We have presence on MEETUP.COM.

  • The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
  • 2023-01-09 Comments: Stan can't hear or see anyone moving now.
  • 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Barely worth the effort.
  • 2023-02-27 Comments for March: Per Gary and Stan R it sucks ( more and in many different ways, month to month ).
  • 2023-04-03 Comments: Gary had been locked out by MEETUP for 5 hours.
  • 2023-05-01 Comments: It sucks, is pain in posterior.
  • 2023-06-05 Comments: It sucks, it sucks, it sucks. Something new messes up every month. Somewhat draws in attendees; but, nothing big.
  • 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Meetup sucks.
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August: Last cycle Gary was bushwhacked, input grabbed screwy characters.
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September:
    • We kept getting messages from folks that are too impatient to read individual meeting instructions that tell them to check our web sites.
    • Apparently the front most SLUUG MEETUP about page lacked the additional linked here information we have for individual meetings.
    • Stan R added the linked here information to bottom of the SLUUG MEETUP about page.
    • It was very hard to find where we could update that front page ( no surprise ).
    • We were getting posting photos to our MEETUP meetings that show mushrooms and mention illegal drugs ( like Meth ).
    • Ken Johnson changed settings so that regular visitors could not post photos.
  • 2023-10-02 Comments:
    • We are at 995, now approaching 1000 membership. Wonder what will happen. Hard to know from their poor description.

Our Internet Presence on Other Social Media

SUMMARY: We presume that our single web site isn't enough to draw younger crowd.

  • The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
  • 2023-01-09 Comments:
    • Does NOT look like anyone has updated our twitter feed since November.
    • QUESTION: Who is supposed to be updating it?
  • 2023-01-30 Comments for February:
    • What is best lead time to tweet about meeting? Consensus is before. Really, nobody here wants to do work.
  • 2023-02-27 Comments for March::
    • Scott Granneman's offer about Mastadon in the FedAUniver means some of us might sign up.
    • Per Stan R we need demonstrations of different social tools.
  • 2023-04-03 Comments:
    • Gary M will approach Granneman about Mastadon.
  • 2023-05-01 Comments:
    • A significant number of TWITTER users have moved over to the social media technology ( beta ) of the
    • week, BlueSky.
    • Stan R watched and recommends Sunday's netcast of This Week in Tech
    • panel discussion on Twit TV about current social media.
    • Still same issues for us.
  • 2023-06-05 Comments: Unfortunately, our prejudices preclude advancing or progressing in this territory.
  • 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Maybe we [ could ] get some presentation from Scott Granneman.
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Our only interest is for advertising our meetings.
  • 2023-10-02 Comments:
    • Johnathan suggested Mastadon over MEETUP. Need effort. Need clones.

ANNOUNCE Mailing List

SUMMARY: As a historical descendant of our monthly newsletter, the ANNOUNCE mailing had been a weekly extract of our SLUUG GOOGLE Calendar of Events. Previous editors had also styled it less of 1 liners of the entire calendar and more of abstracts of OUR talks & outstanding interest items.

  * **HISTORY:** The subscriber list has been populated from attendance sheets by a nominating subscription process, which requires human input.
  • The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
  • 2023-01-09 Comments:
  • 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Problems really relate to advance scheduling.
  • 2023-02-27 Comments for March:: None
  • 2023-04-03 Comments: None
  • 2023-05-01 Comments: It works.
  • 2023-06-05 Comments: No changes.
  • 2023-06-26 Comments for July: No changes on list. Topic for STLLINUX was determined too late to make use of it as announcement.
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: It works.
  • 2023-10-02 Comments: * Robert Levitt has been posting items to list.

Hybrid Meetings

SUMMARY: Combine recording physical plus remote meetings

  * HISTORY: 
      * We have for the longest time been saying: 
      * **No physical face-to-face meetings until further notice.**
      * When we again have physical meetings, we would like to continue video meetings in conjunction with any physical meetings.
      * So, in anticipation of future openings of libraries and restaurants,
        * reduction of lock-down, we need to work toward perfecting the technology. 
  • 2021-07-05
    • Project considerations
      • Locations
      • Schedule ~ Timeline
    • Assets
      • Staffing
        • Project Leader ~ Lee Lammert (at least Point Of Contact)
        • Project Wrangler ~ Steve Stegmann (if he will remember)
        • Recording Hardware ~ Lee Lammert
        • Recording Software ~ Tyler Rudie (had been experimenting with OBS during July STLLINUX meeting)
        • Remote Virtual Software ~ ZOOM or Jitsi (maybe better) ?
        • Head Count (local clipboard and remote software participant panel to capture attendance).
        • Production Chief(s) ~
          • does recording and archives.
          • one for remote and one for live location
        • Minions
      • Equipment ~ inventory ~ splitter ~ projectors ~ microphones ~ cameras ~ smartphone cameras ~ portability
        • avoid condenser microphones ~ want dynamic microphones (which may be more expensive)
      • Servers ~ ZOOM ~ Jitsi
      • Software ~ OBS ~ Discord? ~
        • Capabilities ~ Remote Video ~ Chat ~ Recording ~ Screen Sharing ~ YouTube Streaming?
        • Documentation ~ Diagrams ~ Limitations
        • Testing ~ Bat Cave? ~ Restaurant?
    • Discussion:
      • Gary M virtual remote experience at 2600 club was not good. They did not have splitter for hybrid session.
      • Lee figures harder, quite difficult, do we want to really do it. How do we do recordings?
      • Stan R says local noise too much at restaurants.
      • Head counts need to be considered. Gary once shared ZOOM participant panel. We need to promote sharing participant panel(s) for count heads.
      • Stan R has less problem using Jitsi.
      • Stan R thought Jitsi does not have built in recording (may not be true).
      • Stan R uses Linux SimpleScreenRecorder (SSR) to record all remote sessions. Specifically activates participant panel while recording sessions with SSR.
      • We must consider when will libraries open up. Also, Siemens, Nick and Elena's restaurant.
      • Gary suggests we move this topic earlier in agenda. We don't expect to make much progress right away; but, need to keep in mind.
  • The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes ( after 2021-07-05 ) prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
  • 2023-01-09 Comments:
  • 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Hybrid meetings, nothing comes to mind.
  • 2023-02-27 Comments for March: James Conroy says doing too hard.
  • 2023-04-03 Comments: Free Beer and Pizza would be a large draw. We need to consider further.
  • 2023-05-01 Comments: Our policy should be to encourage anyone else that wants to do all the work.
  • 2023-06-05 Comments: Moving on.
  • 2023-06-26 Comments for July:
    • We would need to consider counting both remote attendance and face-to-face attendance. Should we care, who would do it and how would we track it.
    • No disagreement. Lot easier for Dave Forrest to be at face-to-face meetings.
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Nothing to say.
  • 2023-10-02 Comments: No thoughts.

Cameras and Microphones and Projectors

SUMMARY: We try to record many of our meetings.

  • The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
  • 2023-01-09 Comments:
  • 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Nothing to say.
  • 2023-02-27 Comments for March:: Per Stan R someone else should probably take custody of the SLUUG projector.
  • 2023-04-03 Comments: Nobody else wants it.
  • 2023-05-01 Comments: I still have main projector.
  • 2023-06-05 Comments: I ( Stan R ) have projector. Don Ellis still looking for hard drive and camera and microphone ( with red sauce ).
  • 2023-06-26 Comments for July: No change.
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August: SUGGESTION: Don't use condenser microphones. Only use Dynamic microphones.
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Nothing to say.
  • 2023-10-02 Comments:
    • Lee has one camera, Don has at least one microphone, stan has projector.

Change BASE and MAIN Structure

SUMMARY: Effort to align length of BASE to be shorter than MAIN presentations.

  * **HISTORY:** 
  * General Meeting BASE portions go too long. Volunteers tend to do topics beyond introductory level. Scaling back subjects and length
    * of coverage might be a good thing.
  * Stan R posted to SteerCom mailing list for prior discussion.
  * Stan R suggests that we start pulling simple ideas from our Planning Schedule Report and by using a facilitator (or two) encourage
    * and guide participation covering that single topic.  Simply starting out by presenting a relevant man page might work to get folks to join in. 
    * Keeping it short and simple (KISS).
  • 2022-09-07 Comments:
  • 2022-10-03 Comments:
    • Changed 12 September SLUUG General Meeting. Instead of a BASE and a MAIN, had 3 short Rolling Thunder Talks.
    • ZOOM somehow gave us an extra file that was closed captions.
    • We should be much more flexible in structure and not restrict to BASE and MAIN, allowing for multiple short topics.
  • 2022-11-02 Comments: We agree, worth doing again. Might even be routine, like February instead of Lightning Talks.
  • 2022-12-05 Comments: Still a very good option to have multiple short presentations.
  • 2023-01-09 Comments: None
  • 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Promote that we're a friendly group, .. if you have a topic that you think would be good, you don't have to be an expert!!
  • 2023-02-27 Comments for March:: None
  • 2023-04-03 Comments: Shorter BASE sessions working fine. Good if we could only get more volunteers.
  • 2023-05-01 Comments: Hope to keep them down to 30 to 45 minutes at most.
  • 2023-06-05 Comments: We doing good keeping BASE simple.
  • 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Seems to be our on going goal.
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August: Gary needs to advise speakers to keep BASE down to 15 to 20 minutes.
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Good dealing with keeping BASE things short.
  • 2023-10-02 Comments: Good results with stick to short BASE presentations. Quite good for flow of meeting.

Attendance Database

SUMMARY: We use for head count tracking and for member voting qualification during each Calendar Year (CY)

  * HISTORY: 
  * Attendance tracking necessary for member qualifications to vote in our annual elections.
  * At face-to-face meetings we would pass around clipboard with sign-in sheet.
  * The standard remote video recordings do not automatically show participants.
  * Stan R runs a second connection to each video meeting named **Anonymous Coward** to record attendance. 
  • LibreOffice BASE Attendance database file is available for download from https://www.sluug.org/steercom/ page.
  • The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
  • 2023-01-09 Comments:
  • 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Stan R might demonstrate Attendance database at the SLACC meeting coming up.
  • 2023-02-27 Comments for March: Demoed at meeting.
  • 2023-04-03 Comments: None
  • 2023-05-01 Comments:
  • 2023-06-05 Comments: Still works and being used as is.
  • 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Stan R. keeping counts going.
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August:
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Works good.
  • 2023-10-02 Comments: Stan updates immediately after each meeting. Often necessary to record with SimpleScreenRecorder.

Planning Schedule Report Database

SUMMARY: We have LibreOffice BASE for tracking BASE, MAIN and STLLINUX meeting topics and speakers.

  * HISTORY: 
  * A running database helps Gary schedule meetings.
  • LibreOffice BASE Planning database is available from https://www.sluug.org/steercom webpage.
  • Go to https://www.sluug.org/steercom/ has link to planning.pdf
  • or directly to report at Planning Schedule Report
  • The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
  • 2023-01-09 Comments:
    • Stan R started combining many ( not all yet ) previous SLUUG and STLLINUX topics and has added them to database back to YR 2006.
    • The intent is to rebuild current Presentation Archives listing to show both SLUUG and STLLINUX with links.
    • Topic listings of Saint Charles LUG and Security LUG from old minutes and ANNOUNCE mail have NOT been included ( would require lots more work ).
  • 2023-01-30 Comments for February:
    • Excellent body of work. We all should review more often. Might make back up presentation filler.
  • 2023-02-27 Comments for March: demoed at STEERCOM meeting.
  • 2023-04-03 Comments: Stan R will continue updating.
  • 2023-05-01 Comments: Stan R makes updates multiple times a day.
  • 2023-06-05 Comments: Updated as needed.
  • 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Stan R. keeping counts going.
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August:
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September:
    • Stan R changed the 2023-07-12 entry for Steve Stegmann's TMUX - A Longer Introduction from listing as Base to Main.
    • Stan R altered length of Phone field in Planning database and it's report to allow room for telephone extentions.
  • 2023-10-02 Comments: Help Gary stay focused. Gives Stan something to beat him about head and sholders.

Handouts

SUMMARY: We have informational handout PDFs available http://www.sluug.org/resources/handouts/.

  * HISTORY: 
  *The PDFs are generated using LibreOffice. The originating files are stored along with generated PDFs.
  * Lee ordered printer parts that should correct crinkle problem.
  * Stan R has been modifying a Linux Presentation Day from 2015 found on the Internet.  It has excellent content.
    * Difficult to modify, as it is extremely graphically intense.  Built and modified with the Scribus application.
    * Likely too complex to print, may wind up splitting content to make a slide show presentation.
  • The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
  • 2023-01-09 Comments:
  • 2023-01-30 Comments for February:
    • Minor update to our Why Use Linux handout made for Stan R presentation. Also linked on Presentation Archives page.
  • 2023-02-27 Comments for March: None
  • 2023-04-03 Comments: Stan R planning on a new handout. Don't know when he'll get to it.
  • 2023-05-01 Comments: Stan R still hasn't done the new handout.
  • 2023-06-05 Comments: No changes.
  • 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Stan R made minor update to the Learn VIM handout to accompany STLLINUX presentation. Still hasn't done new handout.
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August: Nothing new.
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Stan cannot manufacture extra time.
  • 2023-10-02 Comments: Stan cannot manufacture extra time.

Linux Stickers

SUMMARY: Ken Johnson really prefers stickers, rather than stuffed toys!

  * **HISTORY:**  SWAG is good!
    * Lee has sheet to pass on to Ken.
    * James Conroy will make background black so we can get what we want when ordered.
  • The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
  • 2023-01-09 Comments:
  • 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Lee will send file and request to James C.
  • 2023-02-27 Comments for March: None
  • 2023-04-03 Comments: James C will look at graphic that Lee sent him.
  • 2023-05-01 Comments: Lee sent file to James C. The plan is still active. Background color issues.
  • 2023-06-05 Comments: James C. not here to make remark.
  • 2023-06-26 Comments for July: James C. not here to make remark.
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August: James C. too busy buying house and travel to India.
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: James C. will check his todo list.
  • 2023-10-02 Comments: No updates.

Organizational Papers

SUMMARY: We have large box of hard copy historical records concerning our organization. It has been floating around.

  * **HISTORY:** 2020-10-05 Gary found cardboard box with old secretary material. Original Xeroxes of articles of corporation, etc. Historical interest. No idea who dropped it off.
  • The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
  • 2023-01-09 Comments:
  • 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Box has divided and multiplying like rabbits.
  • 2023-02-27 Comments for March: None
  • 2023-04-03 Comments: Gary M still has the cardboard box. Should be elevated to avoid mold, etc.
  • 2023-05-01 Comments: Still there.
  • 2023-06-05 Comments: Lee may have stuff to give to Gary to place in box ( once he finds it ).
  • 2023-06-26 Comments for July: In Gary's basement.
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August: Gary has only heard rumors of their existence.
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: * Completely disorganized. Box still there.
  • 2023-10-02 Comments: Gary believes box is still there ( not verified ).

Sponsorships

SUMMARY: We seek financial support from the tech community.

  * **HISTORY:** We are not good at getting sponsors.
  • The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
  • 2023-01-09 Comments:
  • 2023-01-30 Comments for February: We need to develop plan to attract cash sponsorships.
  • 2023-02-27 Comments for March: None
  • 2023-04-03 Comments:
    • Meetup offer made from Creve Coeur firm needs to be evaluate.
    • We need to poll interest among next meeting attendees.
  • 2023-05-01 Comments: Gary should call Creve Coeur outfit.
  • 2023-06-05 Comments: None
  • 2023-06-26 Comments for July: We're no good at getting sponsors.
    • Dave Forrest gave us $200 towards captioning. Not yet deposited in account.
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August: Thank You Dave!
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Nothing new.
  • 2023-10-02 Comments: We are not good at self promotion.

We Need Help

SUMMARY: We don't have enough volunteers to do everything consistently.

  * **HISTORY:** We need new members who want to do stuff. Same as every month.
  • QUESTION: Any new volunteers to help?
  • Tyler Rudie had volunteered to help with SLUUG Google calendar input.
  • Gary, Stan, & Tyler need to get together to review Tyler getting to work on Google Calendar modifications?
  • Tyler Rudie has been granted permissions to help with SLUUG Google calendar input. Not yet given guidance or instructions.
  • Gary needs to prompt him.
  • The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
  • 2023-01-09 Comments: None
  • 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Steve Stegmann ( was ) volunteered for Secretary position on ballot.
  • 2023-02-27 Comments for March: None
  • 2023-04-03 Comments: Gary M or one of us should ask about overall interest in attending face-to-face.
  • 2023-05-01 Comments: Gary needs a clone. Stan R needs a raise. Doubled my salary.
  • 2023-06-05 Comments: Gary got Robert Levitt to post to DISCUSS and ANNOUNCE.
  • 2023-06-26 Comments for July:
    • Stanford Baldwin avoided conversation
    • Robert Levitt willing and Gary will encourage him to post spontaneously.
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August: Gary needs to talk to Robert Levitt and Tyler Ruddie.
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Gary needs to start picking on somebody else.
  • 2023-10-02 Comments: Gary suggests approaching indivuals one-on-one, face-to-face if meeting them.

New Business

SUMMARY: After old business, we call for anything that we need to deal with.

  • QUESTION: Do we have anything else, anything new that we need to deal with?
  • The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
  • 2023-01-09 Comments: None
  • 2023-01-30 Comments for February: None
  • 2023-02-27 Comments for March: None
  • 2023-04-03 Comments: None
  • 2023-05-01 Comments: Tonight channel 4.1 KMOV TV Scott Granemann speaking.
  • 2023-06-05 Comments: None offered.
  • 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Home Automation group may be a source of presentations for us, if they keep ZOOM efforts going (per Gary).
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None
  • 2023-10-02 Comments:
    • :?:

New Business

  • 2023-10-02 Comments:
    • Recognition of Phil Bunch participation and contributions.
    • How often mention will be determined later.

Recurring Requirements

SUMMARY: We routinely rotate thru the following (just in case).

  * HISTORY: 
  * In past, we had missed critical government filings, dropped ball on domain renewals, and similar important items.
  • January 2023 - STLLINUX.ORG domain automatic renewal.
  • January 2023 ~ Post Office Box Renewal ( automatic 6 months on credit card ) ~ Lee handles.
  • January 2023 ~ Bribes early to Stan R so your name won't be on ballot.
  • February 2023 - SLUUG Annual Board meeting and elections.
  • March 2023 - Count Ballots
  • March 2023 - Updates to contacts on webpage if required.
  • March 2023 - Updates to email aliases if required.
  • March 2023 - Consider schedule workshops for July and August 2021
  • April 2023 - First Saturday, reserve rooms at St. Louis County Library Branches.
  • April 2023 - IRS Form 990-N for Tax Exempt Status. e-postcard. filed March 2023.
  • May 2023 - LetsEncrypt renews every 60 days early ( 30 day grace period ).
  • June 2023 - BuddyNS SLUUG account due (Automated) * WAS RENEWED.
  • June 2023 - Missouri Annual Report for Corporate Legal Status due. DUE 2024 ( every two years now )
  • June 2023 - *automated* LetsEncrypt free SSL certificates for websites on BOCK.
  • July 2023 - SLUUG.ORG account due (Automated) done in June.
  • July 2023 ~ Post Office Box Renewal (automatic 6 months on credit card) ~ Lee handles on SLUUG card.
  • August 2023 - Missouri Tax Holiday ( on our calendar )
  • August 2023 - NEWLINUX.ORG domain renewal. Stan R.
  • August 2023 - SLACC.ORG domain renewal. Stan R.
  • September 2023
  • October 2023 - First Saturday, reserve rooms at St. Louis County Library Branches.
  • November 2023
  • December 2023 - Ticket ( ballot ) nominations should be solicited.
  • The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
  • 2023-01-09 Comments: None
  • 2023-01-30 Comments for February: Quick short review done during this session.
  • 2023-02-27 Comments for March: None
  • 2023-04-03 Comments: Nothing major. Stan R update contacts webpage.
  • 2023-05-01 Comments: None
  • 2023-06-05 Comments: None
  • 2023-06-26 Comments for July: None
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None
  • 2023-10-02 Comments:
    • :?:

Recognize Useful Efforts

SUMMARY: When anybody does something to help!

  • QUESTION: Did anyone do anything helpful or useful?
  • 2023-10-02 Comments:
    • Stan got fifty percent raise.
    • Jonathan excellent suggestions on advertising in other groups.

Follow-up and Action Items

SUMMARY: It may help a little to tag individuals with tasks:

  • ISSUES:
  • :?:
  • Everyone - Review the STEERCOM minutes, make corrections, act!
  • Everyone - Talk to someone about coming to meetings.
  • Everyone - Talk to someone about giving a presentation.
  • Everyone - Stan R wants LibreOffice Planning database tested on multiple systems.
  • Don Ellis ~ Test Stan's Planning database on LibreOffice on Mac.
  • Don Ellis ~ Upon return to town, clean tomato sauce off the Snowball microphone (there was minor accident at STLLINUX).
  • Don Ellis ~ was to upload older videos to Google Photos and/or Google Docs & publish links.
  • Don Ellis ~ Possible presentation - 2018-07-18 he had suggested Apple interfaces and accessories for audio & video.
  • Don Ellis ~ Possible presentation on new ChromeBook Linux interface. July 2020
  • Don Ellis ~ will/was to place credentials for YouTube and any others on Bock /home/sluug
  • Gary Meyer ~ Hassle Mike about Google throttling.
  • Gary Meyer ~ Contact Steve Pidgeon for progress report.
  • Gary Meyer - Build spreadsheet to track domain name registrations. See http://bgp.he.net/ip/207.223.253.71#_dns
  • Gary Meyer - Did not follow up with Noel about transferring the SLACC.COM domain to us.
    • SLACC.COM is now held by someone else (squatter).
    • SLACC.ORG could be registered. SLACC.COM available for sale ~ only $499.
    • Consider other TLDs than .com and .org for SLACC
    • 2023-05-01 Comments:
      • SLACC.COM has been offered for sale to us for $100 ( down from $499 ).
      • SLACC.ORG registered by Stan R more than a year ago.
      • NEWLINUX.ORG registered by Stan R more than a year ago.
  • Stan R. ~ Remind Gary Meyer to bring SWAG, Penguins or stickers to meetings and hand out pamphlets.
  • Stan and Gary should get together and discuss how ANNOUNCE maintance is done.
  • The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
  • 2023-01-09 Comments:
  • 2023-01-30 Comments for February: None
  • 2023-02-27 Comments for March: None
  • 2023-04-03 Comments: None
  • 2023-05-01 Comments: None
  • 2023-06-05 Comments: None
  • 2023-06-26 Comments for July: None
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: Gary is neglecting this sections.
  • 2023-10-02 Comments: None.

Blue Sky Recording

  • QUESTION: Will we have Blue Sky Idea session to record or not record?
  • 2023-10-02 Comments:
    • Continue recording
    • Carl Perry ( RISC Five Associates ) in Austin Texas.
    • Techies are meeting privately in individual homes, therefore fewer group meetings.

Adjourn STEERCOM Meeting

  • QUESTION: At what time was STEERCOM meeting adjourned?
  • 2023-10-02 Comments:
  • Monday, October 2nd, 2023
    • TIME: 8:32pm

Stop Video Recordings

  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September:
    • TIME: 8:32pm

Blue Sky Ideas

SUMMARY: Food for thought ~ anything not previously covered that provides mental stimulus for thinking about improvements or solutions.

  * HISTORY:  Stimulate creativity by planting the seed of an idea.  
    * Current action or response not required.
    * Some ideas are Off-The-Record ~ NOT TO BE RECORDED!
    * Some ideas should be publicized.~ SHOULD BE RECORDED!
    * If a speaker believes something should not be recorded, the recording operator needs to be notified.
    * ** Each speaker would initially declare whether an idea should be recorded or not. ** 
  • The narrative comments in the agenda/minutes prior to January 2023 Steercom have been removed.
  • 2023-01-09 Comments: None
  • 2023-01-30 Comments for February: None
  • 2023-02-27 Comments for March: None
  • 2023-04-03 Comments: None
  • 2023-05-01 Comments: None
  • 2023-06-05 Comments: None
  • 2023-06-26 Comments for July: None
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September: None
  • 2023-10-02 Comments:
    • :?:

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August 2023

SLACC - Aug 3rd, 2023

    • First Thursday of each month. Free formant no presntation. Always up to attendance as what is covered.
    • Usually holds a Linux Workshop offering installation and configuration help - no presentation
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September:
    • Usual free format discussions.

SLUUG - Aug 9th, 2023

  • Second Wednesday of the month.
  • BASE (Personal Computing):
    • STATUS: Done
    • WHAT: VIM Side By Side
    • BY: Stan Reichardt
    • SYNOPSIS: NA
    • WRANGLER: Stan
    • ABSTRACT: YES
    • BIO: YES
    • REMARKS:
      • We did not have an alternative ( secondary ) topic on hand.
      • June SLUUG BASE was Ergonomic Keyboard Design by Eric Trinkle
      • July SLUUG BASE was not done, see MAIN was TMUX - A Longer Introduction by Steve Stegmann
      • August SLUUG BASE was VIM Side by Side by Stan Reichardt
  • 2023-06-26 Comments for July: None
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September:
    • Lee said very informative. Gary though excellent revisit of neat tricks.

—- COOKIE TIME ~ ANNOUNCEMENTS ~ CALL FOR HELP (Gooey Middle):


  • Second Wednesday of the month.
  • MAIN (Professional Computing):
    • STATUS: Done
    • WHAT: Hot restore of a MySQL database
    • BY: Lee Lammert
    • SYNOPSIS: YES
    • WRANGLER: Lee
    • ABSTRACT: YES
    • BIO: YES
    • REMARKS:
      • We did not have an alternative ( secondary ) topic on hand.
      • June SLUUG MAIN was Apple Update and More by Scott Granneman
      • July SLUUG MAIN was TMUX ~ A Longer Introduction by Steve Stegmann
  • 2023-06-26 Comments for July: Nothing yet. Johnathan Drews trying to line something up about a game developer.
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September:
    • Lee demo'd live, was enough time to do and have fun. Stan believes it to be very good referece material.
    • Gary thought excellent.

STLLINUX - Aug 17th, 2023

  • STLLINUX is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
    • Nine days after SLUUG MAIN General Meeting.
  • LINUX
    • STATUS: Done
    • WHAT: nushell
    • BY: Ed Howland and Robert Citek
    • SYNOPSIS: NO
    • WRANGLER: NA
    • ABSTRACT: YES
    • BIO: YES
    • REMARKS:
      • We did not have an alternative (secondary) topic on hand.
      • June STLLINUX was Learning VIM by Stan Reichardt
      • July STLLINUX was Social Media for Techies by Scott Granneman
  • 2023-07-31 Comments for August: None
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September:
    • Might have been our longest recorded meeting ever.
    • We remembered to solicit help with pending Operating System upgrade from Debian 10 on BOCK this fall.
    • Mike Knight has made some good comments.

NEWLINUX - Aug 22nd, 2023

SUMMARY: Previously named Hazelwood LUG (HZWLUG), then Newcomer LUG (NEWLUG). Now, Newcomer Linux User Group is designated as NEWLINUX. The NEWLINUX home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which we could start. Topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover way more than one topic.

  • NEWLUG was how we named our Linux Users Group (LUG) for Linux Newcomers.
    • NEWLINUX is name that we can frequently use for our Newcomer Linux Users Group.
    • Fourth Tuesday of the month.
    • Free format, no presentation. Always up to attendance as to what is covered.
  • 2023-08-28 Comments for September:
    • Some technical questions that really could have used Phil Bunch's expertice.
    • Expect some to ask questions at SLACC ( hope Phil comes ).
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