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Saint Louis Bread Company,
(at Old Olive and Olive),
10550 Old Olive Street Road,
Creve Coeur, MO 63141

Date and Time

  • November 1, 2006
  • 6:44 pm - 8:03 pm


  • Barry Morrison
  • Stan Reichardt
  • Carl Fitch

Secretary Report

  • Secretay DNA due to illness

Treasurer Report

  • Treasurer DNA due to business trip

Book Sales Report

  • One Book sale $39.00

Membership Report

  • Attendance for October
    • 4 Oct STEERC - 6
    • 11 Oct SLUUG - 28
    • 17 Oct SOLARIS - 8?
    • 19 Oct STLLUG - 13
    • 24 Oct HZWLUG - 11
    • 25 Oct SECURE - 12
    • 26 Oct STCLUG - 9
  • First meeting for Solaris SIG this month
    • An attendance sheet was provided, not yet returned.
    • Per Jeff Muse, attendance may have been 8, or so.
  • Current mailing list membership numbers (approximate):
    • 880 on ANNOUNCE (give or take a dozen possible duplicates)
    • 180 on DISCUSS (previously reported as 140)

Nominations Report

  • Nominations needed for February elections
  • Stan R. and Gary M. are on the nominating committee.

Comments on Presentations

October 2006

SLUUG - Oct 11

  • Base: Firebug (Firefox plugin - JavaScript debugger) by Ed Howland
    • Good - crammed a lot into too short a time period
  • S3 (formerly KPG) "sponsored" the SLUUG meeting with pizza.
    • Survey sheet sent around and pizza was ordered about 7:30
  • Main: AppArmor by Matt Skiption of Novell
  • comments: "Well presented" "An eye opener, I was not aware of it's capibilties" "Can't know too much about security"


  • First meeting for Solaris SIG this month
  • Ran into problems with wireless
  • Need to run cable?
  • No report sent in, we don't know who is leader (point of contact).

STLLUG - Oct 19

  • TOPIC: Troubleshooting Linux Problems by Craig Buchek
  • Topic was not scheduled on home web page until late Tuesday prior to meeting.
  • Lots of interactive, on the fly demos of commands.
  • Details sometimes too fast, hard to keep up.
  • In all, mind expanding, and excellent quality on such short notice.

HZWLUG - Oct 24

  • TOPIC: Setting Up Wireless Networks (With Or Without Encryption Keys) by Carl Fitch
  • Very well received, lots of questions, possible follow-up next month.
  • Some discussion of "ports", which may be another topic to focus on.
  • Considerable difficulty getting PC video projector to work (may have just been loose cable).


  • Primer on Encryption by Mark Buchanan
  • Traffic caused a few folks to show up late.
  • Covered historical background which was a good lead into topic.
  • A lot of material, very interesting specifics.
  • Very informative, with lots of side-bar information.

STCLUG - Oct 26

  • Cronolog - Effortless Log Rotation by Carl Fitch
  • No slides, web page shots, hands on
  • Afterwards, Carl F. showed Stan R. how to make translucent graphic using GIMP
  • Location in restraunt was different, good for watch the game.
  • Will include web server in next demo session.

Presentation Schedule

November 2006

SLUUG - Nov 8

  • Base: Cronolog - Effortless Log Rotation by Carl Fitch
  • Main: Introduction to Logical Volume Manager (LVM) by Jeff Muse
    • Stan R. working with Jeff M. on building presentation slides.
    • This tutorial is on a heavy duty topic with 45+ slides.
    • Want one other volunteer for review of slides.
    • Details of follow-up session at STLLUG not yet worked out.
  • Carl has book sales cash box; needs to hand it off whenever he's not there.
  • Need to do nominations for February elections.

STLLUG - Nov 16

  • Main: Demonstration of Logical Volume Manager (LVM) by Jeff Muse
  • This is a Follow-up of the SLUUG presentation

STCLUG - Nov 20

  • Has determined Holiday schedule date.
    • Regular date would fall on Thanksgiving Day Holiday.
    • Carl says that it had been scheduled for the 20th.
  • Topic TBD.


  • Topic TBD.
  • No one reported on this.
  • Carl F. will be attending this next meeting.

Thanksgiving Day - Nov 23

HZWLUG - Nov 28

  • Newbie Topics


  • Regular date Nov 22 was one day prior to Thanksgiving Day.
  • Need to determine X-MAS Holiday schedule date.
  • Topic TBD.

December 2006

SLUUG - Dec 13

  • Base: TBD.
  • Main: TBD.


  • Topic TBD.

HZWLUG - Dec 19

  • Holiday schedule date.
  • The 26 Dec date given last month was wrong, meeting room was reserved for 19 Dec - Stan R.
  • Topic TBD.

STLLUG - Dec 21

  • Need to determine Holiday schedule date.
  • Base: TBD.
  • Main: TBD.

Christmas Day - Dec 25


  • Need to determine Holiday schedule date.
  • TBD.

STCLUG - Dec 28

  • TBD.
  • Carl has confirmed 28th is good for December.

January 2007

SLUUG - Jan 10

  • Base:
  • Main: Ethical Hacking by ??? (scheduled via Lee L.)
  • Need to do additional nominations


  • TBD.

STLLUG - Jan 18

  • Base:
  • Main:
  • Need do final nominations for STL Linux chair.

HZWLUG - Jan 23

  • TBD.


  • TBD.

STCLUG - Jan 25

  • TBD.

February 2007

HZWLUG - Feb 13

  • This early date necessary due to StLC Library Branch scheduling conflicts
  • Election balloting
  • TBD.

SLUUG - Feb 14

  • WARNING: Valentines Day - May cause low attendance
  • Back-to-back meeting this month with STLLUG
  • Official annual SLUUG business meeting
  • Election balloting
  • Lightning Talks are usually done in February at SLUUG
  • Base:
  • Main:

STLLUG - Feb 15

  • Back-to-back meeting this month with SLUUG
  • Election balloting
  • TBD.

SOLARIS - Feb 20

  • Election balloting
  • TBD.

STCLUG - Feb 22

  • Election balloting
  • TBD.


  • Election balloting
  • TBD.

Potential Presentations

  • InkScape by Mark Jarnowski (via Craig) (was STLLUG TENTATIVE)
  • Everything you (N)Ever Wanted to Know About HDTV by Craig Buchek (will work on this to have as a stand-by)
  • Certified Ethical Hacking by Mark Russell of Premier Knowledge (via Lee)
  • Contact Mark Russell about presenting at Security group. (via Tim/Ted ?)
  • XGL by Matt Skipton of Novell (via Lee)
  • Perl Scripts to do DNA Genetic Research by Bryce Meyer from Wiltel/Level 3 (via Gary)
  • OpenVPN by Robert Citek (via ???)
  • WiFi - Jerry @ OCI (via Gary)
  • CVS/Subversion - Sanjiv, Ed Howland (via ???)
  • Tech Futures - Railroad guy (via Rich Seibel)
  • Requests:
    • VPN (hands-on preferred, good for a Security meeting)
    • CVS/Subversion for Config Files
    • Oracle Application Express
    • How To Update Your System - apt, yum, yast, etc.
    • Music - Linux on iPod, iPod on Linux, Ogg, players, etc.
    • Using Secure Email Clients
    • TrueCrypt - file-level encryption for Windows/Linux
    • Using One-Time Passwords
    • MythTV / Freevo / TiVo - (STLLUG?) - (via Sarah on the Perl list, or others)
    • Video cards in Linux (Heuris)
    • IBM vs. Sun vs. HP on UNIX

Library Room Reservations

  • Room reservations are always opened on the first Saturday in October.
  • Stan R. filled out paperwork.
  • Stan R. reserved Prairie Commons Branch for HZWLUG. There were four conflicting dates.
  • Phil Bunch delivered paperwork to Indian Trails Branch for STLLUG.
    • Indian Trails staff mentioned reservation payment policy.
    • Advanced payment for STLLUG might be appropriate.
  • Carl F. made inquiry about alternate meeting site for STLLUG.

Formation of New Solaris SIG

  • Solaris SIG (special interest group)
  • Principles interested are Jeff Logullo, Nik Moon, and Jeff Muse
  • Nik Moon reserved meeting room
  • Stan R. created temporary Solaris SIG webpage, with favicon.ico
  • Stan R. included information in ANNOUNCE mailing
  • Stan R. created attendance sheet document
  • Stan R. mailed attendance sheet document to principle members
  • What is status of donation of 2 Sun 1U servers that Craig had for the group?


  • Craig was contacted with sponsorship offer from S3 (formerly KPG).
  • Stan R. purged a number of old sponsor icons from SLUUG website.
  • Stan R. created temporary sponsor icon for S3 and added it into rotating image script.
  • Stan R. ran into problem with rotating image script.
  • Craig said the check is in the mail to PO box.
  • What is status of Lee sending out invoices to previous sponsors? ($200)
  • Lee is wating for us to generate a list of contacts.
  • Clarence J. and Stan R. to gather information about previous sponsors.
    • Collect sponsor contact info.
    • Starting with information from the web site.
    • No progress this month.

Website Library

  • Stan R. working with Ted P. to get presentations put up.
  • Ted has gotten some of the older presentations gathered
  • Resources page listing past presentations is up to date.
  • No presentation uploads yet - waiting for migration
  • No progress this month.

System Administration

  • Dark
  • Michelob
  • Defunct WU Dialup hardware

Yea, what ever happened to the trusty WU dialup? Did they finally change the # (& login/psw.) after all these years? Anyone have replacement info for us old folks without DSL?

New Servers Project

  • Was to meet at Lee's on October 28.
    • Decisions to make:
      • How to get mailing list archives on the new web server.
      • How to migrate email, while allowing users to access email via existing methods.
      • How to migrate mailing lists.
        • Look into Majordomo/Mailman.
    • To complete:
      • Migrate SLUUG web site.
        • Which can remain on Dark/Michelob, and be migrated to Budlight later.
      • Create new web sites for SIGs.
      • Migrate Chris Byrd's Drupal install over for Security site.
      • Make Bud an admin-only box.
      • Make Budlight a user-accessible box.
      • Need offline (sensitive?) working documentation matrix of machines (for recovery)
        • hostnames and IP numbers,
        • functional purpose,
        • hardware,
        • resources,
        • holders of root, sudo

Other Old Business

Board Member

  • Barry Morrison is Christine's replacement, will hold the board seat until the 2007 elections.
    • Stan R. made change to SLUUG contacts web page
    • need to announce at meetings, etc.

Dial-up Lines

  • We were to have WU drop the remaining line on October 30.
    • Was request made?
    • Do we need to yank some equipment?


  • We discussed membership dues in relation to shell accounts.
    • Agreed that there should be 3 levels of voluntary membership dues.
      • $100
      • $70
      • $35
    • Agreed that shell accounts are available in 1 of 2 conditions:
      • User pays voluntary membership dues, OR user attended 2 meetings in the previous calendar year, and pays $10.
      • Craig B. was to write up new membership info on membership levels for web site and hand-outs.
    • Stan R. sent SLUUG membership flier OOo document to Craig B. for updating

New Business

  • Always more to do.

Blue Sky

  • Still blue.

Follow-up and Action Items

  • Always need somebody to do stuff.
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