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--- steercom:2007-08 [2007/08/01 18:28]
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 ====== Date and Time ======
   * Wednesday, 1 August 2007
-  * 6:30 pm - 8:40 pm
+  * 6:30 pm - 8:55 pm
 ====== Attendees ======
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 ====== Treasurer Report ======
   * Current Balance:  $1239.81 as of 6/30/07
-  * Bills paid: $23.57 (Pizza for server work day)
+  * Bills paid: $23.57 (Pizza for 6/13 server work day)
   * Open questions:
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 ====== Book Sales Report ======
   * None reported for June.
 ====== Membership Attendance Report ======
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       * Jul 25 - Security: 6
       * Jul 26 - STCLUG: 11
+  * Must have had good topics, as these numbers are higher than recent months.
+    * And July attendance is normally low due to vacations, good weather, etc.
 ====== Mailing List Report ======
-  * We have migrated most lists from Majordomo to MailMan.
+  * We have migrated most lists from Majordomo on Michelob to MailMan on Bud.
+    * USERS and non-SLUUG lists are only remaining lists to migrate.
   * Some current mailing list subscriber numbers (approximate):
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   * Un-advertised MailMan lists are MAILMAN, TEST, TESTING and SYSADMIN.
-  * Still need to do USERS, FLYBALL, and ???
   * The old ANNOUNCE Majordomo list has been converted to a MailMan list.
     * Subscribed (injected) 920 addresses into the new ANNOUNCE MailMan list on 29 July.
-    * Suprisingly fewer than expect unsubsribe requests.  So far.
+    * Surprisingly fewer than expect unsubscribe requests so far.
     * We still anticipate more ANNOUNCE reductions due to MailMan automated handling of bounces.
     * Already two new subscribers via the new process.
-    * Lots of non-subsriber submissions every day -- SPAM.
+    * Lots of non-subscriber submissions every day -- SPAM.
-    *
   * Weekly ANNOUNCE EVENTS mailing.
     * Latest mailing sent out on MailMan list.  Late Sunday evening, 29 July.
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 ==== HOLIDAY - July 4 ====
   * Independence Day
 ==== SLACC - July 5 ====
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 ==== SLUUG - July 11 ====
-  * Base: DSH - Distributed Shell by John Hodge.
+  * Base: DSH - Distributed Shell by John Hodge
-  * Main: Basic GIMP Usage by Scott Nesler (confirmed, via Craig).
+    * Good, but only covered the AIX version for the most part.
+    * Generated good discussion on DISCUSS, including alternatives.
+  * Main: Basic GIMP Usage by Scott Nesler (confirmed, via Craig)
+    * Excellent. Everyone learned something new.
+    * Scott enjoyed presenting; wants to do more.
 ==== SOLARIS - July 17 ====
   * TOPIC: SMF - Service Management Facility by Bob Netherton
-  *
+    * Very interesting. Centered around satisfying startup dependencies.
+    * Bob Netherton was excellent as always.
 ==== STLLUG - July 19 ====
-  * TOPIC: Everything You (N)Ever Wanted to Know About HDTV by Craig Buchek.
+  * TOPIC: Everything You (N)Ever Wanted to Know About HDTV by Craig Buchek
-  *
+    * Excellent. Tons of information covered in a short amount of time.
+    * Invitation mailed to ANNOUNCE the prior day seemed to bring in several new people.
+    * Presentation available at [[http://craigbuchek.com/presentations]]
 ==== HZWLUG - July 24 ====
-  * TOPIC: Review updated HZWLUG Information CD-ROM Disc (Tentative)
+  * TOPIC: Review updated HZWLUG Information CD-ROM Disc by Stan Reichardt
+    * Went well. Stan did well, even without Carl there.
   * Plus other unstructured topics requested by Newbie questions
 ==== SECURITY - July 25 ====
-  * TOPIC: Continued Examination of Snort and BASE by Chris Byrd, CISSP, and Mark Buchanan.
+  * TOPIC: Continued Examination of Snort by Chris Byrd and Mark Buchanan
-  * Excellent review & continuation of topic.
+    * Excellent review and continuation of topic.
-  * Suggestion made to make Savvis primary meeting location, but no hands-on available in main conference room.
+  * Suggestion made to make Savvis primary meeting location.
+    * PRO: Room is available more than UMSL location.
+    * PRO: Nice space - main conference room.
+    * PRO: Free sodas.
+    * PRO: Gets Chris Byrd and Mark Buchanan more involved in leadership.
+    * CON: No hands-on available in main conference room.
+    * CON: Difficult to get into the building after 6:00.
+  * Clarence should make the final decision about moving.
+    * Carl will call Clarence.
 ==== STCLUG - July 26 ====
   * TOPIC: Basic GIMP Usage by Scott Nesler
-  * Updated a bit
+    * Updated a bit from SLUUG version, fewer mistakes.
-  *
+    * Excellent once again.
 ====== Presentation Schedule ======
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 ==== SLACC - August 2 ====
   * Linux Configuration Workshop - No presentation.
 ==== SLUUG - August 8 ====
-  * Base: SFTP by Carl Fitch (Tentataive)
+  * Base: SFTP by Carl Fitch
-  * Main: APV (Advance Power Virtualization) Overview by John Hodge
+  * Main: APV (Advance POWER Virtualization) Overview by John Hodge
+  * Alternative: Technology Since 1968 by Scott Granneman (via Gary)
-IMMEDIATE DECISON NEEDED!!!
-See this afternoon's e-mail to steercom
-. Scott Granneman is willing to present but is teaching in Sept & Oct.
-. Does John want to do this Aug 8 or is he willing to move to Sept?   (Solves our Sept problem.)
-. Do we want Scott 2 weeks in a row?
-. We need to change web-page & other publicity ASAP!
 ==== STLLUG - August 16 ====
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 ==== SOLARIS - August 21 ====
-  * TOPIC: TBD
+  * TOPIC: TBD. Possibly work on installing (Open)Solaris, or DTrace presentation by Jeff Muse
 ==== STCLUG - August 23 ====
-  * TOPIC: TBD
+  * TOPIC: TBD. Possibly John Pitney.
 ==== HZWLUG - August 28 ====
-  * TOPIC: TBD
+  * TOPIC: Whatever the newest person wants to talk about.
-  * Plus other unstructured topics requested by Newbie questions
+  * Plus other unstructured topics requested by Newbie questions.
 ==== SECURITY - August 29 ====
-  * TOPIC: TBD
+  * TOPIC: TBD.
 ===== September 2007 =====
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 ==== SLACC - September 6 ====
   * Linux Configuration Workshop - No presentation.
 ==== SLUUG - September 12 ====
-  * Base: TBD
+  * Base: Rsyncing System Files with Root Permissions by Carl Fitch
-  * TOPIC: TBD
+  * TOPIC: TBD. Possibly John Hodge or Scott Granneman.
-SEE Aug 8 question about John Hodge moving to this date.
 ==== SOLARIS - September 18 ====
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 ===== October 2007 =====
+==== St. Louis Business Expo - October 2 ====
+  * At St. Charles Convention Center
+    * See [[http://www.sbmon.com/expo/ | http://sbmon.com/ expo ]]
+    * SLUUG will have a booth again.
 ==== SLACC - October 4 ====
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 ==== STLLUG - October 18 ====
   * TOPIC: Lotus Notes (Client and Server) on Linux by Tom Bowman of TeamCentric (confirmed, via Craig)
-==== HZWLUG - October 23 ====
-  * TOPIC: TBD
-  * Plus other unstructured topics requested by Newbie questions
 ==== SECURITY - October 24 ====
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 ==== STCLUG - October 25 ====
+  * TOPIC: Joomla by Mark Ward (confirmed, via Carl)
+==== HZWLUG - October 30 ====
   * TOPIC: TBD
+  * Plus other unstructured topics requested by Newbie questions
+  * On the 5th Tuesday because of Library schedule conflict.
 ===== November 2007 =====
 ==== HOLIDAY - November 12 ====
-  * Vetrans Day (Observed)
+  * Veterans Day (Observed)
 ==== SLUUG - November 14 ====
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 ==== STLLUG - November 15 ====
   * TOPIC: Genetics, DNA, Viruses, Bioinfomatics, etc.  (part 2) by Robert Citek (tentative, via Craig)
+==== STCLUG - November 19 ====
+  * NOTE: Date changed due to 4th Thursday falling on Thanksgiving.
+  * TOPIC: Rapid Data Oriented Web Development with CakePHP and PHPReports by Scott Nesler (confirmed, via Carl)
 ==== HOLIDAY - November 22 ===
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 ===== Potential Future Topics =====
+  * Scribus by Stan Reichardt.
   * Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 (RHEL 5)- still looking for volunteer (via Craig).
-  * CentOS Linux by Tim Dreste (Not in August or September.  Tentative October, via stanr.)
+  * CentOS Linux by Tim Dreste (Tentatively October, via Stan.)
   * AIX 6 - due out later this year (about November, IBM via John Hodge)
   * Another presentation from Tom Bowman at TeamCentric Technologies (via Craig)
-  * A cool history of tech since 1968 from Scott Granneman (via Gary).
+  * History of tech since 1968 from Scott Granneman (via Gary).
-  *
+  * Building a modern kernel by Ed Howland.
+  * Using git by Ed Howland.
-From Ed Howland
+  * Linux(xBSD, etc) on Wireless. (Suggested by Ed Howland)
-Suggestions for upcoming topics for Steercom:
+    * Part 1: Theory and operation of wireless networks.
+      * The 802.11 stack (relevant protocols.)
-Building a modern kernel  (probably been a long time since this has
+      * Descriptions of terms, expansion of alphabet soup.
-been touched.)
+      * Security (WEP, WPA, WPA2)
-Using git (maybe first since you need git to to the build - a two
+      * Network types (ad-hoc, infrastrucure.)
-parter or tutorial first.
+      * Modes (ad-hoc, managed, master, monitor.)
+      * Packet Types (management, data frames. Beacons, probes.)
-Parter on Linux(xBSD, etc) on Wireless.
+    * Part 2: Practical Linux Wireless configuration.
-. Theory and operation of wireless networks.
+      * Cards, compatiblity.
-    The 802.11 stack (relevant protocols.)
+      * NDISWrapper and native (devicescape stack.)
-    Descriptions of terms, expansion of alphabet soup.
+      * Drivers
-    Security (WEP,WPA, WPA2)
+      * Tools (using wpa_supplicant.)
-    Network types (ad-hoc, infrastrucure.)
+      * Network Monitor
-    Modes (ad-hoc, managed, master, monitor.)
+      * Wireshark sniffing.
-    Packet Types (management, data frames. Beacons, probes.)
-. Practical Linux Wireless configuration.
-    Cards, compatiblity.
-    NDISWrapper and native (devicescape stack.)
-    Drivers
-    Tools (using wpa_supplicant.) Network Monitor
-    Wireshark sniffing.
-I see the wireless as being done by 2 people on 2 nights (say in the
-same month at the SLUUG and StlLinux meetings.
-Ed
 ====== Sponsorships ======
   * No change from last month.
-  * Recognition of extended membership levels has not yet been done.
-    * Craig and Stan to work on membership levels on August 1.
   * Effort should be directed to find new sponsors.
     * No effort means no new sponsors.
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     * Confirmed that we will not be using "sudo" on new sysems.
     * Set new root passwords on BUD and BUDLIGHT.
-    * Sent notice of change out to SYSADMIN list.
+    * Sent notice of password change out to SYSADMIN list.
-    * Set up cron job to dun us to change it every 6 months.
+    * Set up cron job to dun us to change password every 6 months.
-    *
 ====== Server Migration Project ======
-  * Carl F., Craig B., Mike Knight and Stan R. met on July 25
+  * Carl, Craig, Stan, and Mike Knight met on July 25 to work on the new servers.
-  * Migrate ANNOUNCE.
+    * Migrated ANNOUNCE list.
-  * Fix problem with mailing list archive listings.
+    * Fixed problem with mailing list archive listings.
-  * Correct mailing list pages to point to new archives.
+    * Corrected mailing list pages to point to new archives.
-  * Fix problem Phil reported with mailing list passwords.
+    * Fixed problem Phil reported with mailing list passwords.
+    * Added mailx to allow sending email via the 'mail' command.
-  * Things To Do:
+    * Got cron job working, to tell us when we need to update packages.
-    * ??? Consolidated TLS configurations.
+    * Upgraded to most recent version of DokuWiki.
-    * ??? Set up cron job about submitting annual report.
+    * Got SASL working, so authenticated users can send out emails.
-    * ??? Make sure docs are up to date.
+    * Started documenting client email configurations, to help users migrate.
-    * ??? Start migrating individual users.
+      * See [[../users]] page.
-    * ??? All web access (except users) moved to Bud.
+      * It was suggested that the Mail Clients sections be split out to separate pages to reduce overall size.
-    * ??? Load Apachie mod_usrdir to allow ~/user home pages
-    * Carl was going to rebuild Budlight.
+  * Work left to do:
+    * Make sure docs are up to date.
+      * Add documentation telling users how to configure mail clients to use Bud.
+    * Start migrating individual users.
+      * Make sure we have documentation on what we need to migrate.
+    * Rebuild Budlight.
+      * Carl may rebuild using virtual machines.
     * Get offsite backups working.
+    * Put SSH host keys on web page.
+    * Work with Ed Wehner to migrate gateway-l and archrivals lists.
+    * Migrate USERS mailing list.
+    * Document changes to PAM to correct MAIL variable. (Craig)
 ====== Website Library ======
-  * Stan R.  and Ted P.
+  * Stan R. and Ted P.
   * Partial migration from Dark to Bud sufficient to start loading presentations.
   * Migration means that we can start making real progress each month.
   * No routine presentation uploads yet.
   * Each website has skeleton presentation page listing topics given to date.
-  *
 ====== SLACC as a SIG ======
-  * Carl was to speak with Noel about moving the SLACC.com domain website.
+  * Carl spoke with Noel about moving the SLACC.com domain website.
-  *
+    * Yes. Carl to follow up.
-====== Domain Renewal ======
-  * DONE
-  * The SLUUG.ORG domain was to expire on July 10.
-  * Gary Meyer renewed it on July 8.
-  * Put the charges on his credit card, to be reimbursed by SLUUG.
-  * WHOIS query now shows expiration date of 10-Jul-2008.
-  * As usual, Dotster's automated renewal did not work.
-  * Partly due to credit card expiring.
-  * Partly due to auto-renewal not working right after updating credit card info.
-  * Craig suggested that we manually renew from now on, and not rely on auto-renewal.
-  * Note that it is SLUUG's policy to only renew one year at a time.
-  * So we don't lose organizational knowledge of how to do it.
 ====== Event at EPC ======
   * August 3-5 is Missouri's tax holiday, which includes computers.
   * EPC is having a big sale on August 4.
-  * We'd like to have some SLUUG folks demonstrate applications.
+  * We will have some SLUUG folks demonstrating applications.
-    * Carl was to contact EPC about printing brochures for us to hand out.
+    * Blurb was put in this week's ANNOUNCE about Linux Demonstration Table at EPC.
-    * Blurb put in this week's ANNOUNCE about Linux Demonstration Table at EPC
+    * Will focus on how to use GNU/Linux and Open Source applications.
-    *
+    * Setup from 4-6 PM on Friday August 3.
+    * EPC will print some brochures for us to hand out.
+====== Membership (and Shell Accounts) ======
+  * Stan and Craig met earlier on August 1 to work out membership issues.
+    * See the wiki [[../membership]] page.
+  * Those present read through the write-up on the wiki page.
+  * Recommendations from the group:
+    * Make it clear that the primary benefit is to support the group.
+    * Give away an item (from [[http://www.cafepress.com/sluug | our CafePress page]]) for each level
+      * Platinum level - golf shirt
+      * Gold level - t-shirt, mug, or baseball cap
+      * Silver level - bumper sticker (excluding the $10 level)
+    * No longer need to follow July - June billing cycle.
+      * Each member will renew 1 year from their start date.
+  * Craig to rework the membership page a bit.
+    * Will post URL to STEERCOM for confirmation/vote.
+  * Carl will spend $150 to buy membership gifts to have on-hand.
+    * Unanimous support from committee to spend this amount.
+  * Membership drive will start in September.
+    * After that point, Stan will add CafePress link to SLUUG web site.
+  * We talked about making the logos that Scott Nesler made official logos.
+    * Will post URLs to options on STEERCOM, and vote on them there.
+  * NOTE: Membership sign-ups must include form with user info.
 ====== Publicity Handouts ======
-  * Craig and Stan were to meet on the morning of August 1st.
+  * Craig and Stan met earlier on August 1 to work on handouts.
-    * Work out membership issues.
+    * Reviewed and mapped out improvements to the brochures we have.
-    * Document membership levels.
+    * Decided to include a page telling when/where all our meetings are. (Craig working on)
-    * Improve the brochures we have.
+  * Stan had previously created a St. Charles LUG brochure on GNU/Linux resources.
-    * Develop a Newbie packet.
-    *
-  * Stan created St. Charles LUG brochure on GNU/Linux resources.
     * Added link to PDF on [[http://www.sluug.org/resources/handouts/ | SLUUG Handouts]] web page.
     * Will add link to PDF on STCLUG web page.
-    *
   * Need about 200 copies of all brochures.
     * Carl was to ask EPC to print 200 copies of each.
-    * After event at EPC we should ask for volunteer on DISCUSS to print balance.
+    * After event at EPC we should ask for volunteer on DISCUSS to print any shortages.
-    *
-====== Shell Account Renewals ======
-  * Shell account renewal cycle for July 2007 to June 2008.
-  * Membership issues to be completed by Craig and Stan on August 1.
-  * This will likely push our cycle back 1 month.
-  * Then treasurer will send out notices and bills, etc.
-  *
 ====== Other Old Business ======
-  * ?? Craig delivered 2 Sun Netra T1/105 (1U) boxes to Jeff Muse.
+  * Gary has an additional (E250?) Sun box to put into production for our members to access.
-  * ?? Solaris SIG should do install Solaris (or other OSes) on them and install them at Primary.
-  * Gary has additional (E250?) Sun box to put into the BBS.
 ====== New Business ======
-  * Anything?
+  * Lee suggested dropping the merchant account, to save $60/yr.
-  *
+    * We're not sure if we want to accept credit cards for membership drive.
+    * We'll wait a couple months to see if membership drive makes keeping it worthwhile.
+  * Jeff has an RS/6000 to get rid of.
+    * 300 MHz, 512 MB, 18 GB+36 GB drives
+    * Has PCI bus, so will run AIX 5.3.
+    * Tower system.
+    * Would be a good system to use once we retire Michelob and/or Dark.
+      * We don't have space otherwise.
+    * Jeff would be willing to build it with AIX 5.3 if someone has CDs.
+      * Currently running AIX 5.1.
+    * If Jeff can get assistance from others, we can use it.
 ====== Follow-up and Action Items ======
-  * Somebody - Something
+  * Carl - Follow up with John Hodge to determine if he wants to postpone presentation.
-  *
+  * Carl - Call Noel about transferring SLACC.com domain.
+  * Carl - Rebuild Budlight.
+  * Carl - Lead effort at EPC.
+  * Carl - Buy $150 of membership gifts from CafePress to have on-hand.
+  * Carl - Split out Mail Clients pages on users wiki document.
+  * Craig - Write up brochures on meetings.
+  * Craig - Fix up membership page, per recommendations.
+    * Post URL to STEERCOM for confirmation/vote.
+  * Craig - Print minutes for any months missing from secretary folder.
+  * Craig - Work on finishing server builds.
+  * Jeff - Seek assistance from AIX gurus to see if we want to set up his box.
+  * Stan - Work on updating brochures on membership issues.
+  * Lee - Consider online database for membership applications/renewals.

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