NOTE: Minutes posted on the wiki are always unofficial. Schedules for upcoming presentations are always tentative. (Some more tentative than others!)

Saint Louis Bread Company,
(at Old Olive and Olive),
10550 Old Olive Street Road,
Creve Coeur, MO 63141

• Wednesday, June 1, 2011
• 7:00 PM - 8:35 PM

• Don Ellis
• Jeff Muse
• Jerry Stutte
• Vitaliy Tkachenko
• Stan Reichardt

• Are there any additions, deletions, or changes to sequence of items in the prepared agenda?

• Nothing to report.

• Bank Balance as of 4/30: $ 509.94
• Service Charge: $ 10.00
• Deposit from NUI: $1000.00
• Balance as of 5/31: $1499.94

• Need to encourage people to use the new PayPal buttons on the web site!!

• Officers need to stop by US Bank on Woodsmill just North of Clayton and see Bill Aubuchon to sign the signature card.

• Subscriber numbers (approximate) as of end of May 2011:

• Numbers as end of each month.
• Blocking of mailing list attachments not completely configured yet. This will be much easier to do on Amber.
• ANNOUNCE mailing list.
  • Still no volunteer editor to do a quarterly or monthly newsletter.
• Command used to generate these (as root on Bud):
  • /usr/local/mailman/bin/list_members list_name | wc -l

• Initial mail list subscriptions are prompted by attendance sheets.
• Group leaders are responsible for taking attendance at meetings.
• Blank attendance sheets are available here
• Attendance numbers, as of end of May 2011:

• NA - Not part of SLUUG.
• () - Number in parentheses is head count.
• xx - attendance was taken, numbers not yet recorded.
• ? - Question mark indicates attendance not taken or sheet missing.
• - - dash indicates no meeting.
• NOTE - Corrected STCLUG August and September counts.
• NOTE - February 2011 Steercom was via IRC #SLUUG channel on freenode.

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• SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation

• SLUUG usually starts with a tutorial or demo session before a main presentation.
• BASE: Homebrew (Mac OS X package manager) by Don Ellis
  • Half the room was already running OS X
• MAIN: Exploring Vim's Visual Mode: Seeing Is Believing by Bill Odom
  • Using visual features of Vim. Very good.

• SNUG is the St. Louis Novell Users Group.
• TOPIC: Going from Cloud to Cloud: Moving the Cloud to the Enterprise
  • Pre-recorded podcast had some interesting observations.
  • Smaller group, was way easier to hear in noisy open restaurant.
  • New speakers were very helpful

• STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
• TOPIC: Webalyzer, by Lee Lammert
  • Very good. Several people were very engaged in the discussion.

• HZWLUG topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one.
  • Temporary location change to Bridgeton Trails Branch Library because of noisy event at Prairie Commons Branch.
  • Will return to regular meeting place in June.
  • Posted summary of activity on DISCUSS mailing list.

• STCLUG is the St. Charles Linux Users Group.
• TOPIC: Basics of 3-D Graphics and Animation (In Two Parts) by Ed Wehner
  • The Basics of Making 3-D Objects (Part 2 of 2)
  • Promotional video at http://www.sendspace.com/file/jdspwe
  • Excellent. Brought software for everyone to install, and helped people do hands-on.
  • Will probably run to 3 parts or more. Gary Meyer invited Gaming Meetup to come.

From Gary M- Excellent presentation again. Next month ANIMATION!

3 members of GameDev group responded online in advance that they had tried the software. 2 disparaged that it didn't do this or that. (Ed explains that this is free and a great learning tool but these gamers MAY be used to hi-end sftwr.) 1 gamer SAID she was coming but did NOT show. 1 responded that it was TOO FAR to come (since he was jobless.) Maybe they will come to next month for ANIMATION!

• Link to potential speakers and topics.

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• SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation

• SLUUG usually starts with a tutorial or demo session before a main presentation.
• BASE: TBD by Jerry Stutte
• MAIN: "Amazing, Stupendous, Mind-Blowing Apps for iPad2" by Scott Granneman (confirmed via Gary Meyer)

• SNUG is the St. Louis Novell Users Group.
• TOPIC: To Be Determined (TBD)

• STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
• TOPIC: Two Coding Languages for Youngsters
  • Scratch by Ryan Brooks (?) via Jerry Stutte
  • Looking Glass Presentation by Paul Gross (?) via Jerry Stutte

• STCLUG is the St. Charles Linux Users Group.
• TOPIC: Basics of 3-D Graphics and Animation by Ed Wehner
  • The Basics of Animating 3-D Objects (Part 3 of 3)
  • Promotional video at http://www.sendspace.com/file/jdspwe

• HZWLUG topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one.

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• SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation

• SLUUG usually starts with a tutorial or demo session before a main presentation.
• BASE: VIM by Bill Odom (Tentative due to work travel via Gary Meyer)
• BASE: LastPass by Jay Truesdale (firm commitment) via Stan Reichardt
• MAIN: Migration of SLUUG services to amber by Jeff Muse (tentative pending completion of work)
• BACKUP: To Be Determined (TBD)

• SNUG is the St. Louis Novell Users Group.
• TOPIC: To Be Determined (TBD)

• STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
• TOPIC: Split presentation:
  • Part I: Yum repositories explored by Jeff Muse
  • Part II: Gnome 3 by Stan Reichardt
• BACKUP: To Be Determined (TBD)

• HZWLUG topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one.

• STCLUG is the St. Charles Linux Users Group.
• TOPIC: To Be Determined (TBD)

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* SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation

* SLUUG usually starts with a tutorial or demo session before a main presentation.

• BASE: To Be Determined (TBD)
• MAIN: To Be Determined (TBD)

• SNUG is the St. Louis Novell Users Group.
• TOPIC: To Be Determined (TBD)

• STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
• TOPIC: Chris Leighton - OpenCV & Facial Recognition (Lee - confirmed)
• BACKUP:

• HZWLUG topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one.

• STCLUG is the St. Charles Linux Users Group.
• TOPIC: To Be Determined (TBD)

• 2011-05 Saint Louis Novell Users Group (SNUG)
  • Formerly a NUI group
• Gary Hollingsworth (SNUG president) proposed formally merging SNUG group into SLUUG
• SNUG is a 501©6 - trade or business organization (same as SLUUG)
• Bob Sherrill is treasurer of NUI
• SNUG Board plans to formally assign Lee Lammert as their treasurer
  • Lee will then be able to transfer money between accounts as necessary
  • Bank will need to get new signature cards filled out
• Rich recommended at some point filing articles of termination with the state for SNUG
  • Once their bank account is depleted
• Gary will get us a copy of the SNUG bylaws
• SNUG annual filings have not been filed recently
  • Could not find "Saint Louis Novell Users Group" on MO SOS web site
  • Could not find "Saint Louis Netware Users Group" (former name) on MO SOS web site
• Steering committee unanimously agreed to the merger
• SLUUG board agreed to accept the decision of the steering committee
• 2011-06 - No further update. Still need a copy of the bylaws.

• 2009-12 We need to change root passwords.
• 2010-01 Craig handed out new password cards.
• 2010-06 Stan R. will build an unviewable page to record the number for server list.
  • Further implementation when we move BUD downtown.
• 2010-07 Craig - change root passwords; make sure Mike Knight has a copy of the password card.
• 2010-08 Status unchanged.
• 2010-09 Status unchanged.
• 2010-10 Mike Knight, Jerry, and Don all need password cards. Jeff sent mail to Craig inquiring.
• 2010-11 Jerry received a password card from Craig.
• 2010-12 Status unchanged.
• 2011-01 Craig REALLY intends to change root passwords VERY soon.
• 2011-02 Jeff will get pw info to Mike if he'll be at the main meeting. Afterwards, we can change passwords.
• 2011-03 Status unchanged.
• 2011-04 Status unchanged.
• 2011-05 Status unchanged.
• 2011-06 Passwords changed at work party for Bud, Amber, and Redhook. Don complained bitterly that he does not have a card.

• 2009-12 Bud Light offline due to fan failure, is still offline.
• 2009-12 Craig has been adding some packages to his server; would be willing to add them to SLUUG servers.
  • fail2ban - temporarily ban IPs that have too many SSH failures (unanimous agreement)
  • fcheck - file integrity checker - emails files that changed since last time run
  • logcheck - email anomalous log entries
  • munin - monitoring of system details
  • awstats - web stats
• 2009-12 Carl recommended using one of the Sun Netras as a log server.
• 2010-02 Craig wondered if we could put sudo back on Bud.
  • Configure it to require root password instead of user's own password.
  • Will follow up on SYSADMIN list.
• 2010-02 Craig wondered if we could start applying the patches pending for Bud.
  • There are a lot of patches pending now, including kernel and security fixes.
  • We have some concern with DNS patches, but Craig has applied them on his systems without issues.
  • Will follow up on SYSADMIN list.
• 2010-02 Noah has a server we can use.
  • IBM X325, dual P4 Xeon 2.8 GHz, 2x72 GB.
  • Name: Golden Wheat
  • Craig will get with Noah to install the system.
• 2010-03 Noah and Craig will install it on Wednesday 3/10 at 2:00 PM.
• 2010-03 Noah has loaded VMware ESXi 4.0
• 2010-04 New server [Debian] installed from Noah - thanks!
• 2010-04 Noah has two more Dell 2850s for installation at IT Enterprises for the OS lab, to be supported by SLUUG. Noah to contact them and confirm installation - this will be a good indication of the support level they wish to have for an ongoing relationship.
• 2010-04 New server from Contegix - Amber
  • Contact Lee or SysAdmin list for info
• 2010-05
  • PrimaryNet problem with possible rogue IRC activity on system we later identified as Golden Wheat.
  • Stan R. added some info on Golden Wheat to resources.txt file.
  • Taking Golden Wheat offline…
  • Mike Knight pointed out that Bud is not being backed up since BudLight went down.
  • Jeff Muse has started rsnapshots backing up Bud to Bock.
  • Noah Lance willing to diagram our assets – later.
  • Joe B will be installing Sun Netra box.
• 2010-06
  • Golden Wheat ready for reinstall - setup with virtual appliance Debian 5 XVA.
  • Lee is building backup on a server built - aliased as AMBER. We might need different name.
• 2010-07
  • Golden Wheat has been re-installed, and fully functional.
  • Amber had incorrect DNS entry; Craig fixed it.
  • Lee copied over Bud home directories to /bu/home on Amber.
    • Cannot get rsync to work between the 2 systems — JEFF FIXED THIS
  • Work party at the bat cave - started on web, mail, system services, user IDs. Big problem now is that mysql won't let postfix log in.
• 2010-08
  • Jerry is working on setting up Nagios
• 2010-09
  • Backups have been disabled, since they were filling the / partition.
  • Postfix integration with MySQL – not working yet.
  • Trying to get Zimbra installed – not working yet either.
• 2010-10
  • Postfix and MySQL are now talking to each other (on Amber)
  • Mailman is installed - list info needs to be migrated over yet
  • Proposed date for work party to finish moving bud to the cloud box - Nov 13th. Location TBD.
• 2010-11
  • We have 2 new boxes.
    • Compaq DL580 (G1) boxes at Lee's house.
    • 4 x 73 GB disks (old servers have 4 x 18GB)
    • 3 GB RAM (old servers have 4 GB)
  • Work party to finish moving bud to the cloud box - Nov 13th at Lee's.
• 2010-12
  • Got Budlight back up and runnable
    • Got a fan to fit in it
    • Need to reinstall in rack
  • Got OS installed on DL580, but Grub didn't work.
  • Lee suggested we keep 1 of each system type.
    • Keep the 2nd of each system type as backup hardware.
• 2011-01 At December Blue Sky session Stan wanted to gather web analytics.
  • Craig said that there are 2 ways to accomplish this.
    • Way 1 is to analyze Apache logs, such as webalizer.
    • Way 2 is to use something like Google Analytics.
  • The group decided against using anything external like Google for this.
  • Craig and Lee got Webalizer working after the blue sky session.
  • Gary and Stan have been looking at the Webalizer reports.
  • http://www.sluug.org/hitreport/
  • Lee disabled a disuse account with 280 MB of email.
  • Lee tested the PayPal button.
• 2011-03 Status unchanged.
• 2011-04 Michelob is sick/dying.
• 2011-05 Need to schedule work time to finish building Amber.
• 2011-06
  • May 21 at Lee's place – 10 AM. Much progress made on a budlight replacement. Some websites moved over to amber. Mail is working on amber but need to migrate user accounts. This is being held up by old-style DES passwords still in use. Jeff is trying to get them changed. Amber build is documented at Base OS Config

• 2009-09 Jerry Stutte, Jeff Muse, and Eric Xu volunteered to cleanup Wash U site.
• 2009-09 Gary Meyer is Captain.
• 2009-10 Captain is AWOL. Carl will be available in November or later.
• 2009-11 Captain was AWOL.
• 2009-12 Captain still AWOL.
• 2010-01 Captain still AWOL.
• 2010-02 Captain Gary Meyer still AWOL. Search party has not reported back.
• 2010-04 Pending until next month at the earliest.
• 2010-05 This project open since September 2009. Gary immediately left meeting.
• 2010-06 Gary not here, nothing resolved.
• 2010-07 Gary not here, nothing resolved.
• 2010-09 Gary will work on this.
• 2010-10 No progress. Stan questioned Gary's usefulness. Suggested that he is merely decorative.
• 2010-11 No progress. See note above about Gary's usefulness.
• 2010-12 No progress. See note above about Gary's usefulness.
• 2011-01 No progress. See note above about Gary's usefulness.
• 2011-02 No progress. See note above about Gary's usefulness.
• 2011-03 No progress. Gary is in Florida. See note above about Gary's usefulness.
• 2011-04 No progress.
• 2011-05 No progress.
• 2011-06 No progress. Unless there is rain Gary won't be attending until September.

• 2010-12
  • We have a voice recorder (VC) for recording meeting presentations and have posted some results on web site.
  • On 28 Oct Stan R. suggested buying an additional VC so that there wouldn't be a single point of failure.
    • We forget who has it.
    • We forget to bring it.
    • We forget to turn it on.
    • We forget fresh batteries.
    • We forget how to turn it on.
    • We forget to free up space on it.
  • There was some STEERCOM list banter but nothing was brought up at 3 November Steering Committee meeting.
  • Alternative of video recording suggested, huge size of video files was mentioned.
  • Stan R. passed voice recorder to Gary M. on 18 November and doesn't want it back.
  • Noah volunteered an old Digital8 recorder.
• 2011-01 Continued discussion, but no consensus.
• 2011-02 Not discussed during IRC meeting.
• 2011-03 Gary M. returned voice recorder to Stan R. before going to Florida.
  • Stan needs to pull February 2011 STLLUG recording and post it (on Amber).
    • And email it to the speaker (Igor Gueths).
• 2011-04 Stan R. passed on voice recorder to Phil Bunch, who should be at next general meeting.
• 2011-05 Phil B. passed voice recorder back to Stan R.
• 2011-05 Craig suggested getting another voice recorder (or 2), and extra batteries.
• 2011-06 Jeff wanted to move that we use some of the Novell money to buy a second recorder, but we do not have a quorum. Stan suggested getting one that records in ideally ogg, but failing that, mp3. Either would be better than the current uncompressed format.

• 2011-01 Mike Knight's emails regarding web site.
  • Stan changed the copyright dates.
  • Good idea to list other Open Source friendly resources.
    • On a separate page from our own SIGs.
    • Sites like WITS, CVillage, Arch Reactor, 2600.
  • Our site layout has not changed for years.
    • Would take some effort to re-do it, and seems to be working for most people.
• 2011-02 Stan hasn't gotten around to building new resources page, yet.
• 2011-03 No change.
• 2011-04 No change.
• 2011-05 No change.
• 2011-06 There was brief discussion of implementing a CMS at the work party on 5/21. No decisions made.

       !!!   !!!   !!!!    !!!

Gary M noticed Wayback machine has STOPPED archiving our server as of after May 2009! Gary M thinks it would be good to get resumption of archiving at Wayback. How can we accomplish this?

• 2010-11 STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
• STLLUG meetings are now hosted at IT Enterprises, which is affiliated with UMSL.
• Typically because of meeting space value we recognize host as sponsor on our web pages.
• Previously, some educational institutions (other than UMSL) did not want to be listed.
• Lee updated the SLUUG web site sponsors list
  • Also added PayPal button to SLUUG web site membership join page.
• 2010-12 No status change.
• We should push the PayPal usage.
• 2011-01 Stan suggested putting Hostirian at the bottom of all SIG web sites.
• 2011-02 Stan hasn't gotten around to the pages, yet.
  • Noticed .PNG file doesn't show up on old county library browsers. Do we have .JPG file anywhere?
  • Not discussed during IRC meeting.
• 2011-03 No change.
• 2011-04 No change.
• 2011-05 No change.
• 2011-06 No change. The spirit is willing but the schedule is weak.

• 2011-02 Because of extreme weather conditions Steering Committee business was conducted on #SLUUG at Freenode.
  • Jeff Muse volunteered to update Steering Committee minutes during IRC session.
  • Jerry Stutte was only brave soul that went to St. Louis Bread company.
  • IRC discussion was way too much technology for flustered Stan R. (he left channel early).
  • Gary Meyer maintained telephone dialogue with Stan (concurrent with session).
  • Transcript of IRC session was provided to Stan for review later.
  • IRC discussion was slow and St. Louis Bread Company threw Jerry out at 9:00 PM.
  • IRC session bogged down at about same time as face to face meeting usually does.
• 2011-03
  • Observations and opinions by Stan R.
    • Few participants had any experience using IRC.
    • IRC channel was not private and any somewhat sensitive information may be revealed.
    • IRC dialog too hard to follow in real time, transcript not much better.
    • IRC participants kept going off on tangent items, making following along difficult.
    • Afterwards, others failed to correct, elaborate, or update the Steering Committee minutes.
• 2011-04
  • No action. Nobody at STEERCOM meeting logged in.
• 2011-05 No action.
• 2011-06 No action required. This topic should be removed from next month's agenda.

• 2011-03 Craig brought up the topic of LUG attendance.
• Why is STLLUG attendance so low?
  • Is it the location?
  • Was it the change in location?
  • Is it because we have too many local meetings?
  • Is it the improving job market?
• With low attendance, we cannot bring in bigger names.
  • Telling Red Hat they'll have 15 people to speak with won't get them to come here.
• Craig will post a message to DISCUSS.
  • Explain why I'm asking.
  • Ask why people don't attend.
  • Ask what we could do to get people to attend more often.
  • Ask if we should combine some of the LUG meetings.
• 2011-04
  • Craig has created a survey – http://stllug.org/2011-member-survey
  • Need to have STEERCOM members look at it first, to make suggestions.
  • Craig will send out the URL to DISCUSS and ANNOUNCE once we're happy with it.
• 2011-05
  • No progress
• 2011-06
  • No progress

• 2011-04 Reserve rooms at St. Louis County Library Branches.
  • First Saturday in April, reserve rooms for balance of calandar year.
  • Stan R. completed reservation forms. Phil Bunch and Stan R. delivered forms to appropriate library.
  • Hazelwood LUG meetings reserved at Prairie Commons Library Branch. Stan paid for HZWLUG meetings.
  • St. Louis Area Computer Club meetings reserved at Thornhill Library Branch.
  • A $60 check needs to be mailed to Thornhill Library Branch within 14 days.
• 2011-05 Lee gave Don Ellis check for Thornhill Library Branch.
• 2011-06 No further action required, can be removed from next agenda.

• Jerry recommended we create a Facebook group and page.
• Jerry recommended we post meeting notices on college campus bulletin boards.
  • Jerry will send out an email to Sanjiv.
• 2011-05
  • Several people were opposed to this idea. (CLARIFICATION 6/1: The opposition was specifically to facebook)
• 2011-06

     !!!    !!!    !!!   !!!!

Gary comments- Group is getting gray We need new blood! Young blood!

               college students and recent grads!

               PR is SO-o-o-o important!!!
               We can have great talks BUT unless we publicize them
               a week or 2 IN ADVANCE we will not 
               get increased attendance!   We need to plan out 
               meetings for NEXT MONTH and get abstracts 
               onto website, etc.

               Stan is right!  AFTER action reports on DISCUSS about
               how good it was WILL help future attendance.

               I still think it will help to get more subscribers to
               ANNOUNCE & DISCUSS.   How??
               

Stan suggested that Gary not spam the wiki and put his suggestions on IRC instead.

• 2011-06 Gary Meyer brought up resume of Wayback Machine recording SLUUG pages.
  • Wayback Machine stopped recording SLUUG pages after May 2009.
  • Wants ideas on how to get it back.
  • Stan R. suggested project to contact sites listed on calendar. Volunteer needed.
  • Don has done some research indicating others have similar problems. No fix on our end is readily apparent, and it might be a wayback problem. Information forwarded to the STEERCOM list.

• July 2011 - Renew SLUUG.ORG domain.
• October 2011 - Reserve rooms at St. Louis County Library Branches.
• October 2011 - St. Louis Business Expo
• December 2011 - Renew STCLUG.ORG domain.
• February 2012 - Renew STLLINUX.ORG domain.
• February 2012 - SLUUG annual Board meeting and elections.
• March 2012 - St. Louis Business Expo
• April 2012 - Reserve rooms at St. Louis County Library Branches.
• May 2012 - IRS Form 990-N for Tax Exempt Status.
• July 2012 - Renew SLUUG.ORG domain.
• August 2012 - Missouri Annual Report for Corporate Legal Status (every 2 years).
• May 2012 - IRS Form 990-N for Tax Exempt Status.

• Consider meeting on last Wednesday of month rather than first Wednesday of month.
  • Same day of week, yet a week earlier.
  • Advantage - Might give us more time to focus, hopefully less panic.
  • Advantage - Would allow one week delay during any winter time bad weather.
  • Advantage - Gives us more flexibility around major holiday and 4 day weekend pressures.
  • Disadvantage - December Holiday Season week might be no better than New Years Week pressures.
  • Possibly switch during a month that has greater number of Wednesdays (June, August, November).
  • Disadvantage: could be back-to-back-to-back meetings with STCLUG and HZWLUG

• Recognize completed action items, and other useful actions.
• Who did what?
• 2011-06 - Work party.
• 2011-06 -

• Everyone - Talk to someone about coming to meetings.
• Everyone - Talk to someone about sponsorships.
• Everyone - Talk to someone about giving a presentation.
• Craig - change root passwords; make sure Mike Knight has a copy of the password card.
• Craig - work on getting refund for 2 months of Indian Trails reservations we did not use.
  • Or transfer the 2 months to SLACC or HZWLUG.
• Craig - talk to Splunk reps about presenting.
• Craig - follow up on potential presentations.
  • Kyle Cordes - ffmpeg or other
• Jerry - find someone to talk to us about Android.
  • Talk to Lopez from FBI about Internet security.
  • Talk to Joshua Frank and Bill Zimmerly.
  • Talk to Rich Siebel to see if Andrew Prunicki of OCI can talk to us.
  • See Announce list from February 2009 for speakers from Java SIG presentations.
• Noah - work on Amber build.
• Gary - look into syncing domain renewals so they all happen at the same time of year.
• Gary - follow up with Noel about transferring the SLACC.COM domain to us.
• Gary - get Wash U site cleaned up.