NOTE: Minutes posted on the wiki are always unofficial. Schedules for upcoming presentations are always tentative. (Some more tentative than others!)

Saint Louis Bread Company,
(at Old Olive and Olive),
10550 Old Olive Street Road,
Creve Coeur, MO 63141

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• Wednesday, September 5, 2012
• 6:50 PM - 8:00 PM

Lee Lammert

Gary Meyer

Stan Reichardt

* Are there any additions, deletions, or changes to sequence of items in the prepared agenda?

• No secretary to report.

• Initial mail list subscriptions are prompted by attendance sheets.
• Group leaders are responsible for taking attendance at meetings.
• Blank attendance sheets are available here
• Attendance numbers, as of end of August 2012:

• () - Number in parentheses is head count.
• xx - attendance was taken, numbers not yet recorded.
• ? - Question mark indicates attendance not taken or sheet missing.
• - - dash indicates no meeting.

• SLUUG Calendar is a Google Calendar available on our web site.
• This is a calendar of technical events in the Greater St. Louis area and surrounding regions.
• Not all events are official SLUUG events.
• Items have been added and corrected by Stan R, Gary Meyer and Don Ellis.
• Items listed on this calendar feed the ANNOUNCE weekly mailing.
• Events on HIATUS are not counted!
• Count of number of events listed, each month, as of end of August 2012:

• xxx - Numbers not yet counted.

• Subscriber numbers (approximate) as of end of August 2012:

• Numbers as end of each month.
• Blocking of mailing list attachments not completely configured yet. This will be much easier to do on Amber.
• ANNOUNCE mailing list.
  • Still no volunteer editor to do a quarterly or monthly newsletter.
• Command used to generate these (as root on Bud):
  • /usr/local/mailman/bin/list_members list_name | wc -l
• xx - numbers not yet recorded.
• - - dash indicates list did not previously exist.

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* SLUUG usually starts with a tutorial or demo session before a main presentation.

• BASE: Managing SSH agents with keychain - Jeff Muse
• Last minute, Jeff couldn/t make it.
• HPLIP or Hylafax, by Jerry Stutte. Audience choice. Presenter will be prepared for either.
• Nice job, small core group, lots of discussion. Ended meeting early for food and drink.

* SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation

• Meeting delayed one week due to library scheduling conflicts
• Posted to SLUUG Google calendar
• SLACC home web page has been posted

• SNUG is the St. Louis Novell Users Group.
• HIATUS - THERE WILL BE NO MEETING THIS MONTH - AUGUST 2012
• Posted to SLUUG Google calendar

• STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
• TOPIC: Lean Security by Josh More via Lee Lammert
• YEA! Excellent job! Lots of technical knowledge and stratigic viewpoints.

• HZWLUG topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one.
• Lots of one-on-one demoing Linux Mint to one guy.

• Link to potential speakers and topics.

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* SLUUG usually starts with a tutorial or demo session before a main presentation.

• BASE: None, will take entire time for main presentation.
• MAIN: Josh More - Hacking the Job Market - Using Penetrating Testing to find better employment via Lee Lammert

* SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation

• Meeting delayed one week due to library scheduling conflicts
• SLACC home web page has been posted

• SNUG is the St. Louis Novell Users Group.
• TOPIC: To Be Determined (TBD)

• STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
• TOPIC: To Be Determined (TBD)
• Temporary change of venue, Scott's house.
• Meeting moved to LPI class.

• HZWLUG topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one.

• Link to potential speakers and topics.

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* SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation

• Date and location may be changed.
• Might be delayed to the 11th of October. Scheduling changes still under consideration.
• SLACC home web page has been posted

* SLUUG usually starts with a tutorial or demo session before a main presentation.

• BASE: To Be Determined (TBD)
• MAIN: To Be Determined (TBD)

• Posted to SLUUG Google calendar
• Event is on a Tuesday.

• SNUG is the St. Louis Novell Users Group.
• TOPIC: To Be Determined (TBD)

• STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
• TOPIC: To Be Determined (TBD)

• HZWLUG topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one.

• Startup Connection we have been invited to have a table at the event so we can make the Startup community aware of the technology resources in the Open Source community.

• Link to potential speakers and topics.

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* SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation

• SLACC home web page has been posted

* SLUUG usually starts with a tutorial or demo session before a main presentation.

• BASE: To Be Determined (TBD)
• MAIN: To Be Determined (TBD)

• STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
• TOPIC: To Be Determined (TBD)

• SNUG is the St. Louis Novell Users Group.
• TOPIC: To Be Determined (TBD)

• HZWLUG topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one.

• Link to potential speakers and topics.

• Fixed GoldenWheat (1U server)
• Acquired 2x2U Dell and 2x2U IBM sets of HW
• Configured one as a new VM server
• ToDo (from Noah Lance):
• Finalize Network (openvswitch isn't happy with linux 3.1), Web GUI, Host monitoring/management configurations
• Build storage configuration - NFS server for images (templates) and home dirs for all VMs
• Validate Web GUI functionality
• Setup Debian 6 VMs for Bud & Budlight
• Attempt p2v of Amber so updates can be tested before pushing to production
• Possible future enhancement - LDAP/Kerberos for SSO to production servers?
• Need to resolve CNAME/A Record issue for sluug.org?
• 2010-07 - Renewed SLUUG.ORG domain during 9 July migration work party.
• 2011-08 - EveryDNS migration to DynDNS caught us unprepared. Craig moved us to buddyns.
  • Lee has made copies of zone files and we have BIND on amber now as an authoritative server.
  • We should probably make sure buddyns has up-to-date contact info.
• 2011-12 Michelob is dead.
  • Joe B. Volunteers to do fix on Michelob, will get together with Gary M.
• 2012-01
• 2012-02 Lee installed Webalizer on the new servers, per Stan R's request.
• 2012-03 Stan R is getting some technical response of his email problem.
  • Much discussion of Mike Knight's research and possible work around.
  • Don and Gary did some testing using Apple mail clients, with results showing same problems.
• 2012-04 Need to run updates on AMBER or plan for alternate virtual install to migrate over.
• 2012-05 Jeff Muse updated AMBER HTTPS cert.
  • Altho we believed the change would only effect that, unexpectedly, Gary's Apple eMAIL client complained about the certificate on IMAP.
• 2012-06 Noah got 3 new servers up at Hostirian.
  • Bud (replacement) - 600 GB storage array
    • Storage for VMs
    • Storage for media (audio/video recordings of meetings)
  • Golden Wheat (replacement)
  • XenPRI - platform to run VMs
• 2012-06 Noah has been updating docs on wiki.
• 2012-07 (late June) No report.
• 2012-08 No update
• 2012-09 No update

• Historically SLUUG had discouraged postings of jobs on our mailing lists.
  • Such job postings could be perceived as SPAM.
• With drastically lower member employment, job postings have been considered acceptable.
• Ideally SLUUG would offer something to paid sponsors and receive credit and compensation.
• 2012-06 Jeff Muse volunteered to create a JOBS mailing list.
  • We'll also add an archive of the list on the web.
• 2012-07 (late June) Jeff had indicated earlier that there were problems. Nothing additional reported.
• 2012-08 Jeff has been AWOL
• 2012-09 Jeff got it working. Now testing.
• Documentation?
• Before trying to set up kind of Policy?
• We believe we'll open it up to use, to see how members use it. Announce it on DISCUSS

to sign up . for now JOBS no longer welcome on DISCUSS list. See what happens instead of

beating our heads against the wall.

• 2012-04 - Stan R with considerable help from Christine Wanta has produced a pamphlet on Free Open Source Software (FOSS).
  • It should be very complementary to what we hawk at the St. Louis Business Expo Linux Booth.
    • The pamphlet has been added to the SLUUG Resources Handouts page
    • Another pamphlet is planned to highlight our Google calendar and list regular meeting days of the month.
    • Lee suggested a single page calendar poster also.
• 2012-05 Stan R built new pamphlet for Calendar and Free Open Source Software (FOSS).
• 2012-06 New pamphlets have been posted to our web site http://www.sluug.org/resources/handouts/
• 2012-06 Stan will go to Lee's to print out some copies.
  • Good for handing out, especially at Business Expo.
• 2012-06 Stan has more ideas.
  • Troubleshooting
• 2012-07 (late June) No report.
• 2012-08
  • Stan R. printed approximately 100 each of Calendar, FOSS, GNU/Linux for Beginners, and GNU/Linux Resources pamphlets.
  • Minor spacing revisions have been made to the GNU/Linux for Beginners pamphlet, stock on hand can be used.
  • Significant revision being made to the Password Guidelines for Beginners pamphlet before printing.
  • Suggested minor revisions will be made to FOSS pamphlet, stock on hand can be used.
  • Our General Information pamphlet will have to be revised before STL Business Expo on 16 October.
• 2012-09 Lee will update and send on to Stan R.

• 2012-03 Gary M renewed the STLLUG.ORG domain.
• 2012-04 This points to Craig's 2011 membership survey web page. Will redesignate to current active site.
• 2012-05 Yet to be done.
• 2012-06 Craig to take a look at this.
• 2012-07 (late June) No report.
• 2012-08 No update
• 2012-09
  • SLUUG.ORG Last Updated On:11-Jul-2012 01:23:13 UTC
• SLACC.COM Noel has renewed and offered to donate domain to SLUUG.
• How do we complete this transfer?
• Do we really care anymore? NO!
• Suggested we just continue with subdomains(slacc.sluug.org).

• $200 for USB monitor for NUI meetings
• Funded by NUI Capital Reserves
• 2012-05 Consideration of alternate splitter, requested and approved.
• 2012-06 Has been purchased.
• 2012-07 (late June) No report.
• 2012-08 Additional monitor was used at July meeting. Made viewing presentations a lot better.
• 2012-09 No more discussion, remove item.

• 2012-05 We had previously agreed to buy one.
  • Would be great to possibly have a second projector at sites that already provide us with one.
  • ~$500 for WXGA Projector for Embedded SIG and meeting spare
• Go ahead.
• 2012-06 Have been unable to meet our criteria at the price point.
• 2012-07 (late June) No report.
• 2012-08 Gary Meyer purchased an older projector that he donated to us.
• 2012-09 In testing, remote focus doesn't work, can be done manually.
• 2012-09 Gary has spare projector if needed. No more discussion, remove item.

• 2009-09 Jerry Stutte, Jeff Muse, and Eric Xu volunteered to cleanup Wash U site.
• 2009-09 Gary Meyer is Captain.
• 2009-10 Captain is AWOL. Carl will be available in November or later.
• 2009-11 Captain was AWOL.
• 2009-12 Captain still AWOL.
• 2010-01 Captain still AWOL.
• 2010-02 Captain Gary Meyer still AWOL. Search party has not reported back.
• 2010-04 Pending until next month at the earliest.
• 2010-05 This project open since September 2009. Gary immediately left meeting.
• 2010-06 Gary not here, nothing resolved.
• 2010-07 Gary not here, nothing resolved.
• 2010-09 Gary will work on this.
• 2010-10 No progress. Stan R questioned Gary's usefulness. Suggested that he is merely decorative.
• 2010-11 No progress. See note above about Gary's usefulness.
• 2010-12 No progress. See note above about Gary's usefulness.
• 2011-01 No progress. See note above about Gary's usefulness.
• 2011-02 No progress. See note above about Gary's usefulness.
• 2011-03 No progress. Gary is in Florida. See note above about Gary's usefulness.
• 2011-04 No progress.
• 2011-05 No progress.
• 2011-06 No progress. Unless there is rain Gary won't be attending until September.
• 2011-07 No progress.
• 2011-08 No progress
• 2011-09 Gary did a site survey and said "Someday….."
• 2011-10 Gary says to repeat above response, ie "Someday….."
• 2011-11 Table - Consensus is to do later, in Spring.
• 2012-03 Gary provided song and dance routine. Stay tuned.
• 2012-04 No progress. Stan R again questioned Gary's usefulness. Again suggested that he is merely decorative.
• 2012-05 Gary protests and proclaims that decorative is useful (no progress).
• 2012-06 Three-year anniversary of this item's proposal is rapidly approaching.
• 2012-07 No progress - Captain Meyer, our fearless leader, is still AWOL!
• 2012-08 Three-year anniversary of this topic is next month
• 2012-09
  • Topic suspended . We will maintain ciurrent hardware as our presence at WU.
  • No more discussion, remove item.

• 2010-12
  • We have a voice recorder (VC) for recording meeting presentations and have posted some results on web site.
  • On 28 Oct Stan R suggested buying an additional VC so that there wouldn't be a single point of failure.
    • We forget who has it.
    • We forget to bring it.
    • We forget to turn it on.
    • We forget fresh batteries.
    • We forget how to turn it on.
    • We forget to free up space on it.
  • There was some STEERCOM list banter but nothing was brought up at 3 November Steering Committee meeting.
  • Alternative of video recording suggested, huge size of video files was mentioned.
  • Stan R passed voice recorder to Gary M on 18 November and doesn't want it back.
  • Noah volunteered an old Digital8 recorder.
• 2011-01 Continued discussion, but no consensus.
• 2011-02 Not discussed during IRC meeting.
• 2011-03 Gary M returned voice recorder to Stan R before going to Florida.
  • Stan R needs to pull February 2011 STLLUG recording and post it (on Amber).
    • And email it to the speaker (Igor Gueths).
• 2011-04 Stan R passed on voice recorder to Phil Bunch, who should be at next general meeting.
• 2011-05 Phil B passed voice recorder back to Stan R.
• 2011-05 Craig suggested getting another voice recorder (or 2), and extra batteries.
• 2011-06 Jeff wanted to move that we use some of the Novell money to buy a second recorder.
  • Did not have a quorum.
  • Stan R suggested getting one that records in ideally OGG, but failing that, MP3.
    • Either would be better than the current uncompressed format.
• 2011-07 Group unanimously voted to buy 2 new voice recorders.
  • As long as they do not require Windows drivers.
  • Preferably record in OGG format, or MP3 at the least.
  • Upper limit $100 each.
  • Jerry and Lee will research and purchase.
• 2011-08 No progress
• 2011-09 Jerry has sent pricing information to Lee
• 2011-10 No action on voice recorders.
  • Much discussion about projectors. Jerry S will research available units.
• 2011-11 Jerry and Lee still researching projectors and voice recorders.
• 2011-12 Table - until somebody gets interested.
• 2012-02 Don Ellis has been video recording presentations in recent months.
  • Need to get him to post those to the official web sites.
• 2012-02 Jerry has an associate who can help convert voice and video recordings to MP3 and Ogg.
• 2012-03 Jerry has an associate working on conversions. No decision on new hardware.
• 2012-04 Michael Jackson offers to voice record meetings and provide us with sound file.
  • We need to pull server boxes and build space.
• 2012-05 Don says that at some point he will be able to upload what he has.
• 2012-06 Don will be able to upload to the new Bud shortly.
  • Stan will be able to link them into our web sites.
• 2012-07 (late June) No report.
• 2012-08 No report. Disk space is available on new bud but we need someone to upload files.
• 2012-09 Ready to setup archive so will

• 2011-01 Mike Knight's emails regarding web site.
  • Stan R changed the copyright dates.
  • Good idea to list other Open Source friendly resources.
    • On a separate page from our own SIGs.
    • Sites like WITS, CVillage, Arch Reactor, 2600.
  • Our site layout has not changed for years.
    • Would take some effort to re-do it, and seems to be working for most people.
• 2011-02 Stan R hasn't gotten around to building new resources page, yet.
• 2011-03 No change.
• 2011-04 No change.
• 2011-05 No change.
• 2011-06 There was brief discussion of implementing a CMS at the work party on 5/21. No decisions made.
• 2011-07 Gary noticed Wayback machine has STOPPED archiving our server as of about May 2009.
  • It would be good to get resumption of archiving at Wayback.
    • How can we accomplish this? We don't know; so, we appointed Gary M. to find a way.
• 2011-08 No progress.
• 2011-09 No progress.
• 2011-10 No progress.
• 2011-11 No progress by Stan R.
• 2011-12 Table - No progress by Stan R, but will work on.
• 2012-03 Low priority
• 2012-04 Will need to check out WebDev site stlwebdev.org
• 2012-05 Gary M. suggests calendar page to highlight OUR, i.e. SLUUG's mtngs.
  • After all, part of the idea of maintaining the calendar is to drive traffic to our own mtngs!
    • Could be hilites on the Google calendar itself &/or additional 1-2 lines written outside the Google calendar.
    • Lee pointed out that advanced users may pull RSS that would not see the "off-Google" lines.
• 2012-07 (late June) Low priority
• 2012-08 Low priority
• 2012-09

• 2010-11 STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
• STLLUG meetings are now hosted at IT Enterprises, which is affiliated with UMSL.
• Typically because of meeting space value we recognize host as sponsor on our web pages.
• Previously, some educational institutions (other than UMSL) did not want to be listed.
• Lee updated the SLUUG web site sponsors list
  • Also added PayPal button to SLUUG web site membership join page.
• 2010-12 No status change.
• We should push the PayPal usage.
• 2011-01 Stan R suggested putting Hostirian at the bottom of all SIG web sites.
• 2011-02 Stan R hasn't gotten around to the pages, yet.
  • Noticed .PNG file doesn't show up on old county library browsers. Do we have .JPG file anywhere?
  • Not discussed during IRC meeting.
• 2011-03 No change.
• 2011-04 No change.
• 2011-05 No change.
• 2011-06 No change. The spirit is willing but the schedule is weak.
• 2011-07 Stan R added Historian logo stuff to bottom of home pages of all active Special Interest Groups.
• 2011-08 No progress.
• 2011-09 No progress.
• 2011-10 Table - No progress.
• 2012-03 Low priority
• 2012-04 Low priority
• 2012-05 Low priority, Stan R needs to go back and finish.
• 2012-06 Low priority, Stan R needs to go back and finish.
• 2012-07 Low priority, Stan R needs to go back and finish.
• 2012-08 No update
• 2012-09

• Need to file our Biennual Report, it is now over due.
• Biennual Report for 2010 is on file, next Report was due 31 August.
• Filed documents available here.
• REGISTRATION REPORT FEE IS:
  • Fees have gone up
  • $20.00 If filed on or before 8/31
  • $25.00 If filed after 8/31
• Corporation will be administratively dissolved if report is not filed by November 30th.
• Craig is a registered agent, per Missouri state, and volunteered to serve as our group's agent.
• The registered agent receives surface mail delivery.
• 2012-09 Stan will gather names for Lee and he will do online.

• Need to renew AMBER SMTPS (over SSL port 465) mail.sluug.org self-signed certificate.
• This self-signed certificate expire o/a 12 July 2012.
• 2012-09 Stan will harass Craig or Jeff, or do it himself.

• 2012-09 Gary bought some Penguins and gave one out as gift to STLLUG presenter last month.

• 2012-09 Gary has on his agenda to set up a SLUUG meet up presence.

• July 2012 - Renew AMBER SMTPS (over SSL port 465) mail.sluug.org self-signed certificate.
• August 2012 - Missouri Annual Report for Corporate Legal Status (now every 2 years).
• October 2012 - First Saturday, reserve rooms at St. Louis County Library Branches.
• October 2012 - St. Louis Business Expo.
• December 2012 - Renew SLUUG.INFO domain.
• December 2012 - Renew STCLUG.ORG domain.
• February 2013 - Renew STLLINUX.ORG domain.
• February 2013 - SLUUG annual Board meeting and elections.
• March 2013 - Renew STLLUG.ORG domain.
• March 2013 - St. Louis Business Expo
• April 2013 - First Saturday, reserve rooms at St. Louis County Library Branches.
• May 2013 - IRS Form 990-N for Tax Exempt Status.
• June 2013 - BuddyNS SLUUG account due.
• July 2013 - Renew SLUUG.ORG domain.

• Recognize completed action items, and other useful actions.
• 2012-09

• 2012-09

• Everyone - Talk to someone about coming to meetings.
• Everyone - Talk to someone about giving a presentation.
• Noah - Work on Bud/GoldenWheat build.
• Gary - Follow up with Noel about transferring the SLACC.COM domain to us.
• Gary - Get Wash U site cleaned up.
• ???? - File biennual report with state of MO well prior to 30 November.