NOTE: Minutes posted on the wiki are always unofficial. Schedules for upcoming presentations are always tentative. (Some more tentative than others!)

Saint Louis Bread Company,
(at Old Olive and Olive),
10550 Old Olive Street Road,
Creve Coeur, MO 63141

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• Wednesday, November 6, 2013
• 6:30 PM - 8:45 PM

• Craig Buchek
• Andrew Latham
• Gary Meyer
• Stan Reichardt
• Don Wieman

• Are there any additions, deletions, or changes to sequence of items in the prepared agenda?

• Nothing to report.

• Initial mail list subscriptions are prompted by attendance sheets.
• Group leaders are responsible for taking attendance at meetings.
• Blank attendance sheets are available here
  • Correction to SLUUG November 2012, was 15, NOT 14 as previously reported.
• Attendance numbers, as of end of Octrober 2013:

• () - Number in parentheses is head count.
• xx - attendance was taken, numbers not yet recorded.
• ? - Question mark indicates attendance not taken or sheet missing.
• - - dash indicates no meeting.

• SLUUG Calendar is a Google Calendar available on our web site.
• This is a calendar of technical events in the Greater St. Louis area and surrounding regions.
• Not all events are official/sponsored SLUUG events.
• Items have been added and corrected by Stan R, Gary Meyer and Don Ellis.
• Items listed on this calendar feed the ANNOUNCE weekly mailing.
• Events on HIATUS are NOT counted! Historical items are NOT counted! Only face to face meetings are counted!
• Count of number of events listed, each month, as of end of Octrober 2013:

• xxx - Numbers not yet counted.

• Subscriber numbers (approximate) as of end of Octrober 2013:

• Numbers as end of each month.
• Blocking of mailing list attachments not completely configured yet. This will be much easier to do on Amber.
• ANNOUNCE mailing list.
  • Still no volunteer editor to do a quarterly or monthly newsletter.
• Command used to generate these (as root on Bud):
  • /usr/local/mailman/bin/list_members list_name | wc -l
• xx - numbers not yet recorded.
• - - dash indicates list did not previously exist.

• Subscriber numbers (approximate) as of end of October 2013:

• Numbers as end of each month.
• Test posts and duplicate mistakes are excluded from counts.
• Blocking of mailing list attachments not completely configured yet. This will be much easier to do on Amber.
• xx - numbers not yet recorded.
• - - dash indicates list did not previously exist.

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• Link to potential speakers and topics.

• SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation

• SLUUG usually starts with a tutorial or demo session before a main presentation.
  • BASE: Coffee Shop VPN with SSH by Ed Wehner
    • aka SOCK Proxy with SSH (Dynamic tunneling with SSH)
    • Excellent
  • MAIN: Emacs by Deech (confirmed via Craig)
    • Very good - excellent intro - exactly what we were looking for.

• HOLIDAY - Columbus Day

• SNUG is the St. Louis Novell Users Group lunch time meeting.
• TOPIC: Stan and Gary - What happens when you answer "Ignore" when installing?
  • Good.

• STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
• TOPIC: Performance Metrics by Steven Lembark
  • Very good - good technical info.

• HZWLUG topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one topic.
  • Continued demonstration of LinuxMint Synaptic, Package Manager and apt-get
  • Demonstration of adding, configuring, expanding, properties and features of kick panel.

• St. Louis Business Expo (SBE)
• Talked to more people than any time before.
• Lots of people stopped in and were really interested.
• Handed out our 2 brochures.

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• Link to potential speakers and topics.

• SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation

• HOLIDAY - Veterans Day

• SLUUG usually starts with a tutorial or demo session before a main presentation.
  • BASE: None
  • MAIN: "Inside the Cloud" - Enterprise Data Center Tour
    • Contegix Tour Confirmed with Melissa
    • Must have attendee list by 12 November for security checkin.
    • NOTE: Tour 7PM, FREE parking in the Central Parking Garage, going North on Tucker
• It will is on the right just after you cross Olive. Parking code will be available that week.
  • NOTE: We should put out an announcement for JUST THIS MEETING.
    • To provide an extra alert that it's not at the normal location.

• SNUG is the St. Louis Novell Users Group lunch time meeting.
• TOPIC: To Be Determined (TBD)

• STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
• TOPIC: Distro Roundup by Andrew Latham

• HZWLUG topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one topic.

• HOLIDAY - Thanksgiving Day

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• Link to potential speakers and topics.

• SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation

• SLUUG usually starts with a tutorial or demo session before a main presentation.
  • BASE: TOR by Lee
  • MAIN: To Be Determined (TBD)

• HZWLUG topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one topic.
• Holiday schedule, one week earlier than usual.

• SNUG is the St. Louis Novell Users Group lunch time meeting.
• TOPIC: To Be Determined (TBD)

• STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
• TOPIC: Gaming on Linux by Elonka (tentative, via Gary)

• HOLIDAY - Christmas Day

• HOLIDAY - New Year's Eve

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• Link to potential speakers and topics.

• HOLIDAY - New Year's Day

• SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation

• SLUUG
  • BASE: Remote SSH Tunnels by Ed Wehner
  • MAIN: OpenERP by Andrew Latham

• SNUG is the St. Louis Novell Users Group lunch time meeting.
• TOPIC: To Be Determined (TBD)

• STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
• TOPIC: Vile by Steven Lembark (tentative, via Gary)

• HZWLUG topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one topic.
• Holiday schedule, one week earlier than usual.

• Fixed GoldenWheat (1U server)
• Acquired 2x2U Dell and 2x2U IBM sets of HW
• Configured one as a new VM server
• ToDo (from Noah Lance):
• Finalize Network (openvswitch isn't happy with linux 3.1), Web GUI, Host monitoring/management configurations
• Build storage configuration - NFS server for images (templates) and home dirs for all VMs
• Validate Web GUI functionality
• Setup Debian 6 VMs for Bud & Budlight
• Attempt p2v of Amber so updates can be tested before pushing to production
• Possible future enhancement - LDAP/Kerberos for SSO to production servers?
• Need to resolve CNAME/A Record issue for sluug.org?
• 2010-07 - Renewed SLUUG.ORG domain during 9 July migration work party.
• 2011-08 - EveryDNS migration to DynDNS caught us unprepared. Craig moved us to buddyns.
  • Lee has made copies of zone files and we have BIND on amber now as an authoritative server.
  • We should probably make sure buddyns has up-to-date contact info.
• 2011-12 Michelob is dead.
  • Joe B. Volunteers to do fix on Michelob, will get together with Gary M.
• 2012-02 Lee installed Webalizer on the new servers, per Stan R's request.
• 2012-03 Stan R is getting some technical response of his email problem.
  • Much discussion of Mike Knight's research and possible work around.
  • Don and Gary did some testing using Apple mail clients, with results showing same problems.
• 2012-04 Need to run updates on AMBER or plan for alternate virtual install to migrate over.
• 2012-05 Jeff Muse updated AMBER HTTPS cert.
  • Altho we believed the change would only effect that, unexpectedly, Gary's Apple eMAIL client complained about the certificate on IMAP.
• 2012-06 Noah got 3 new servers up at Hostirian.
  • Bud (replacement) - 600 GB storage array
    • Storage for VMs
    • Storage for media (audio/video recordings of meetings)
  • Golden Wheat (replacement)
  • XenPRI - platform to run VMs
• 2012-06 Noah has been updating docs on wiki.
• 2012-07 (late June) No report.
• 2012-08 No update
• 2012-09 No update
• 2012-10 Problem getting to AMBER o/a 19/20 September.
  • DNS was broken because of zone file configuration error on 20 August.
  • BuddyNS stopped resolving after 30 days.
  • We aren't logging or documenting very well.
  • Mike Knight suggested extending size of root bash history.
• Mike Knight testing of timestamps for root bash history ran into some problems.
  • Mike Knight is authorized to continue this investigation and remediation.
• 2012-11 Lee recycled the old Compaq ProLiant 6400s.
• 2012-12 Vim config was messed up temporarily.
  • Don had gotten the config for backup files wrong.
  • We need to be sure to notify the group and document any changes we make.
• 2013-01 No news.
• 2013-02 No news.
• 2013-03 No news.
• 2013-04 Up to 401 patches pending on amber.
• 2013-05 No news.
• 2013-06 Mike Knight notice mail virus scanner failed.
• 2013-09 Ed Wehner wants to resurrect user shell access.
  • Has gotten access on Bud.
  • Will send out a survey to the group on what they want.
    • Usenet news groups?
    • VMs?
• 2013-10
  • Ed has results from of survey - 21 responses
• will send spreadsheet for summary
  • assuming pipe won't be noticably over-whelming continue exploring
  • we need to consider choke points.
  • Still need to work inventory to understand what is working, or dead.
  • Explore additional sites at univeristies, etc.
  • USENET server, local newsgroups, looking for news server feed
  • Open discussion at General meetings calling for working group volunteers.
• 2013-11

• 2013-05
  • ISSUE: Don Ellis has been recording many of the meetings. Where/When/How can he start uploading.
  • NEED: Volunteer to setup media storage on one of the SLUUG machines at Hostirian.
• 2013-07 Lee found we have some space to store media.
  • On Bud on /srv/storage/.
• 2013-09 No movement.
• 2013-10
• 2013-11

• 2012-03 Gary M renewed the STLLUG.ORG domain.
• 2012-04 This points to Craig's 2011 membership survey web page. Will redesignate to current active site.
• 2012-05 Yet to be done.
• 2012-06 Craig to take a look at this.
• 2012-07 (late June) No report.
• 2012-08 No update
• 2012-09
  • SLUUG.ORG Last Updated On:11-Jul-2012 01:23:13 UTC
    • SLACC.COM Noel has renewed and offered to donate domain to SLUUG.
    • How do we complete this transfer?
    • Do we really care anymore? NO!
    • Suggested we just continue with subdomains (slacc.sluug.org).
• 2012-11
  • STCLUG.ORG is coming up for renewal.
    • Agreed that we could let this one go, in favor of STCLUG.SLUUG.ORG.
• 2013-01
  • STLWEBDEV.ORG expired
    • Alan Trick's daughter advised us last week the domain was expiring; she offered to renew it for two years. Lee will send her a check.
• 2013-02
  • Gary needs to renew STLLINUX.ORG domain before 2/8.
  • Gary needs to transfer STLWEBDEV.ORG account to SLUUG Dotster control.
• 2013-03
  • Gary renewed STLLINUX.ORG domain.
  • Stephanie Trick renewed STLWEBDEV.ORG domain for 2 years.
  • Need to transfer STLWEBDEV.ORG domain and consolidate in Dotster.
  • Stan asked Gary to work up a LibreOffice Calc spreadsheet listing info
    • Domain name, expiration date, vendor, cost, etc.
• 2013-04 No progress on spreadsheet listing info
• 2013-05 No progress on spreadsheet listing info
• 2013-07 Lee renewed SLUUG.ORG domain.
• 2013-09 No movement.
• 2013-10 No Cooperation from Gary.
• 2013-11

• 2011-01 Mike Knight's emails regarding web site.
  • Stan R changed the copyright dates.
  • Good idea to list other Open Source friendly resources.
    • On a separate page from our own SIGs.
    • Sites like WITS, CVillage, Arch Reactor, 2600.
  • Our site layout has not changed for years.
    • Would take some effort to re-do it, and seems to be working for most people.
• 2011-02 Stan R hasn't gotten around to building new resources page, yet.
  • Noticed .PNG file doesn't show up on old county library browsers. Do we have .JPG file anywhere?
  • Not discussed during IRC meeting.
• 2011-03 No change.
• 2011-04 No change.
• 2011-05 No change.
• 2011-06 There was brief discussion of implementing a CMS at the work party on 5/21. No decisions made.
• 2011-07 Gary noticed Wayback machine has STOPPED archiving our server as of about May 2009.
  • It would be good to get resumption of archiving at Wayback.
    • How can we accomplish this? We don't know; so, we appointed Gary M. to find a way.
• 2011-08 No progress.
• 2011-09 No progress.
• 2011-10 No progress.
• 2011-11 No progress by Stan R.
• 2011-12 Table - No progress by Stan R, but will work on.
• 2012-03 Low priority
• 2012-04 Will need to check out WebDev site stlwebdev.org
• 2012-05 Gary M. suggests calendar page to highlight OUR, i.e. SLUUG's mtngs.
  • After all, part of the idea of maintaining the calendar is to drive traffic to our own mtngs!
    • Could be highlights on the Google calendar itself &/or additional 1-2 lines written outside the Google calendar.
    • Lee pointed out that advanced users may pull RSS that would not see the "off-Google" lines.
• 2012-07 (late June) Low priority
• 2012-08 Low priority
• 2012-09 Low priority
• 2012-10 No report.
• 2012-11 No report.
• 2012-12 Low priority.
• 2013-01 Noah has a prototype StCLUG website at STCLUG.DARKIT.ORG
• 2013-02 No action.
• 2013-03 No action.
• 2013-04 Stan needs to update front page of sluug.org
• 2013-05 SLUUG ⇒ resources ⇒ presentation page listings updated. Much of end of last year was not listed.
• 2013-09 No change.
• 2013-10
• STLLUG Meeting Notes listing updated (not done since January).
• SLUUG Presentation Archives page updated (not done since April).
• SLUUG Calendar ~ Stan R. build a combined web page that uses a separate SLUUG events calendar to highlight our meetings in red
  • Ryan Dowell volunteered (in August) to code majic to automatically pull in Calendar items. Gary to follow up.
  • Troubleshooting over 3 day period removed errant extra web entries from SIU.
  • Some buffering problems remain that disappear when browser clients are rebooted.
  • Note that this week, someone other than Stan R. put a link to SLUUG calendar in a DISCUSS posting.
• 2013-11

• Stan wants to drop the JOBS mailing list.
  • Just have them post to DISCUSS with JOBS in the subject.
    • Would encourage more discussion.
  • Nobody feels strongly one way or the other.
• 2013-09 No movement.
• 2013-10 No JOBS postings in September.
  • Check if all JOBS subsrivers are on DISCUSS.
• Exit plan is to make the JOBS list go away.
• 2013-11
  • Stan is authorized to remove the JOBS list.

• 2013-09 Publicity.
  • Gary M. says we're not good at this.
  • Flyers for meetings (like this month) will help.
  • Mention them at other meetings.
  • Mention that the SLUUG calendar covers lots of groups.
• 2013-10
• 2013-11

• Gary and Craig asked to reconsider MEETUP.COM.
  • It's a place to find meetings.
  • It does cost money ($12 / month).
  • It helps attendees of similar groups find our group.
  • DECISION: We'll ask for volunteers on DISCUSS to "own" the group.
• 2013-03 Craig to take this up.
• 2013-04 No action - Craig missing
• 2013-05
  • Need volunteer to maintain and publicize!
  • No report from Craig
• 2013-07 Got a volunteer by email.
  • Craig, Stan, or Gary will follow up.
• 2013-09 Gary got a volunteer to help us.
  • Will need to reply to him and get him money.
• 2013-10
• 2013-11

• 2012-04 - Stan R with considerable help from Christine Wanta has produced a pamphlet on Free Open Source Software (FOSS).
  • It should be very complementary to what we hawk at the St. Louis Business Expo Linux Booth.
    • The pamphlet has been added to the SLUUG Resources Handouts page
    • Another pamphlet is planned to highlight our Google calendar and list regular meeting days of the month.
    • Lee suggested a single page calendar poster also.
• 2012-05 Stan R built new pamphlet for Calendar and Free Open Source Software (FOSS).
• 2012-06 New pamphlets have been posted to our web site http://www.sluug.org/resources/handouts/
• 2012-06 Stan will go to Lee's to print out some copies.
  • Good for handing out, especially at Business Expo.
• 2012-06 Stan has more ideas.
  • Troubleshooting
• 2012-07 (late June) No report.
• 2012-08
  • Stan R. - printed approximately 100 each of Calendar, FOSS, GNU/Linux for Beginners, and GNU/Linux Resources pamphlets.
  • Minor spacing revisions have been made to the GNU/Linux for Beginners pamphlet, stock on hand can be used.
  • Significant revision being made to the Password Guidelines for Beginners pamphlet before printing.
  • Suggested minor revisions will be made to FOSS pamphlet, stock on hand can be used.
  • Our General Information pamphlet will have to be revised before STL Business Expo on 16 October.
• 2012-09 Lee will update and send on to Stan R.
• 2012-10 Stan has 100 of each, but needs to continue working on the "General" pamphlet.
• 2012-11 Stan doesn't have any more pamphlets.
  • Gary McGee might have ended up with the remaining.
• 2012-12
  • Gary McGee returned pamphlets to Stan R.
  • We have at least 80 of each.
  • Will take them to the upcoming SBE event at the library.
• 2013-01 Stan R. - gave available folded pamphlets to Gary M. There were only about 30 to 40 each (not 80) on hand.
  • At the Bat Cave Stan R. - printed 100 each of the 3 topical pamphlets (Beginner, Calendar, FOSS). Yet to be folded.
• 2013-02 Stan will redo 2 of the older brochures.
• 2013-03 Stan working on these for the business expo.
• 2013-09 No movement.
• 2013-10
• 2013-11

• 2012-09 Gary bought some Penguins and gave one out as gift to STLLUG presenter last month.
• 2012-10 Gary still has more penguins. Considering giving them away at SBE.
• 2012-11 Gary will give these out as speaker prizes.
• 2013-01 Gary still has penguins to give away. Jeff will not give presentation SLUUG 2013/01 without a penguin.
  • Finally, someone got a penguin!
• 2013-02 Gary - bring the penguins.
• 2013-03 Gary brought a penguin for Craig to give to Jessica.
• 2013-04 Jess got her penguin. Only place with more penguins in the area is the zoo.
• 2013-09 Gary still has some to hand out.
• 2013-10
• 2013-11

• ISSUE: Suggestion that we do a meeting or two with the WebDev crowd possibly at Savvis. Craig to check his contacts.
• Omnitec was Pizza sponsor in May, need to attract others!
• 2013-07 SBS Creatix sponsored pizza and soda at the June meeting.
  • Thanks!
• 2013-09 No movement.
• 2013-10
• 2013-11

• 2013-06 Offered to do something.
  • Pizza for STLLUG?
• 2013-09 No movement.
• 2013-10
• 2013-11

• 2013-06 First Friday of the month at Science Center
  • Gary M. suggesting we may be able to have table/literature available
  • Maybe next month?
• 2013-09 No movement.
• 2013-10
• 2013-11

• 2013-10
  • 5 October 2013 - First Saturday, reserve rooms at St. Louis County Library Branches.
• Stan R. will get SLCL rooms scheduled.
  • HZWLUG meetings are paid for by Stan R.
  • SLACC meetings will require $60 check within 14 days.
• 2013-11
  • Rooms have been reserved.
  • SLACC meetings paid by Carl Fitch?

• Someone emailed us about the group.
• Can't find anyone to run it.

• Long time member and legal consul Rich McLennan passed away November 3, 2013.
  • Group was unanimous in favor of buying/sending flowers.
    • Stan will buy them.
  • Funeral will be in Louisville, KY.
    • Gary will be attending.

• 2013-10

• February 2014 - Renew STLLINUX.ORG domain.
• February 2014 - SLUUG annual Board meeting and elections.
• March 2014 - St. Louis Business Expo.
• April 2014 - First Saturday, reserve rooms at St. Louis County Library Branches.
• May 2014 - IRS Form 990-N for Tax Exempt Status.
• June 2014 - BuddyNS SLUUG account due.
• July 2014 - Renew SLUUG.ORG domain.
• August 2014 - Missouri Annual Report for Corporate Legal Status.
• October 2014 - First Saturday, reserve rooms at St. Louis County Library Branches.
• October 2014 - St. Louis Business Expo.
• January 2015 - Transfer and renew STLWEBDEV.ORG domain.

• Andrew tried rendering a logo for the LUG in SVG.

• Anything?

• Everyone - Review the STEERCOM minutes, make corrections, act!
• Everyone - Talk to someone about coming to meetings.
• Everyone - Talk to someone about giving a presentation.
• Unassigned - Strategic Staffing
• Unassigned - Pamphlets or table at First Friday.
• Craig - Check on running joint meeting with WEBDEV.
• Craig - Get Andrew access to help with STLLUG site.
• Craig - Finish new STLLUG site.
• Craig - Contact Ed Schneider about Meetup Group creation and maintenance.
• Craig - Ask people to run MEETUP.COM groups for us.
• Ed W. - newsgroups on hold until firmed up.
• Ed W. - Member Access Machines (MAM) in progress (bring up at General Meeting).
• Don E. - Uploading presentations.
• Stan - Make sure we get library rooms reserved.
• Stan - Work on brochures.
• Stan - Check if JOBS subscribers are subset of DISCUSS.
• Stan - Remind Gary to bring Penguins to meetings.
• Gary - Move phone book to new phone.
• Gary - Talk to Ryan Dowell about automating SLUUG Calendar.
• Gary - Build spreadsheet to track domain name registrations.
• Gary - Follow up with Noel about transferring the SLACC.COM domain to us.
• Gary - Transfer STLWEBDEV.ORG account to SLUUG Dotster control.