NOTE: Minutes posted on the Wiki are always unofficial. Schedules for upcoming presentations are always tentative. (Some more tentative than others!)

Saint Louis Bread Company,
(at Old Olive and Olive),
10550 Old Olive Street Road,
Creve Coeur, MO 63141

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• Tuesday, April 2, 2018
• 6:30 PM -

Listed alphabetically by last name:

* Don Ellis

* David Forrest

* Ken Johnson

* Lee Lammert

* Gary Meyer

* Stan Reichardt

* Steve Stegmann

• Are there any additions, deletions, or other changes to sequence of items in the prepared agenda?

• Don Ellis
• 2018-02-06
  • Stan: Instead of having just one individual edit wiki minutes, could we routinely round robin updating minutes?
  • Unattributed consensus: Good idea. Let's do it.
• 2018-04-02
  • We did some of that during March meeting. Seemed to help improve recording somewhat.
  • 

• SLUUG Calendar is a Google Calendar available on our web site.
• This is a calendar of technical events in the Greater St. Louis area and surrounding regions.
• Not all events are official/sponsored SLUUG events.
• Items have been added and corrected by Stan R, Gary Meyer and Don Ellis.
• Items listed on this calendar feed the ANNOUNCE weekly mailing.
• Events on HIATUS are NOT counted! Historical items are NOT counted! Only face to face meetings are counted!
• Count of number of events listed, each month, as of end of March 2018:

• ??? - numbers not yet recorded.
• xxx - Future Numbers.
• Stopped counting general StL County Library events in May 2016.
• Re-counted April 2016 without library events.

• Initial mail list subscriptions are prompted by attendance sheets.
• Group leaders are responsible for taking attendance at meetings.
• Blank attendance sheets are available here
• Attendance numbers, as of end of March 2018:

• () - Number in parentheses is head count.
• xx - attendance was taken, numbers not yet recorded.
• ?? - Question marks indicate attendance not taken or sheet missing.
• * - sLUGs was STL Linux Users Group for Seniors with initial meeting 8 February 2015. Discontinued October 2017.
• * - SNUG SuSe was STL Novell Users Group with lunch meeting. Discontinued December 2017.
• - - dash indicates no meeting.

• Subscriber numbers (approximate) as of end of March 2018:

• Numbers as end of each month.
• Blocking of mailing list attachments not completely configured yet. This will be much easier to do on Amber.
• ANNOUNCE mailing list.
  • Still no volunteer editor to do a quarterly or monthly newsletter.
• Command used to generate these (as root on Bud):
  • /usr/local/mailman/bin/list_members list_name | wc -l
• xxx - numbers not yet recorded.
• - - dash indicates list did not previously exist.

• xxx - numbers not recorded.
• ??? - don't know where or how to get a count for this.
• - - dash indicates list did not previously exist.

* We do NOT know how/what to count in YouTube Nor do we know how to metric videos.

* We do NOT know how/what to count in Google+ Nor do we know how to metric videos.

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• Link to past minutes and agenda.
• Link to potential tutorials, topics and speakers.
• NOTE: Monday of week (9 days) prior to General Meeting.
• Counted ballots and submit results to Board

• SLUUG General Meeting
• Announce SLUUG annual election results.
  • BASE (Personal Computing):
    • Steve Stegman - Using System Rescue to fix non-booting Windows machines
    • Steve will post System Rescue notes to Discuss
  • MAIN (Enterprise Computing):
    • Racket programming language by Brian Bilgere
    • Good presentation - Steve probably won't use it. Only uses LISP inside EMACS.
    • Cross-posting to related Meetup group does work - got one attendee from LISP group

• MAIN (Enterprise Computing):
  • Future presentation from Brian: VMs on BSD
  • Gary is in contact with guy from Reuters on ROS talk.
• 

• NOTICE SLUUG MAIN AND LINUX LUG MEET BACK TO BACK THIS WEEK!!

• STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
  • VENUE Nick and Elena's Pizzeria, 3007 Woodson Rd, Overland, MO 63114
  • TOPIC: Practical applications using git to manage systems by Chuck Doolittle and Lee Lammert
    • Good beer, good pizza, good presentation.
    • Andrew made good input comments.

• SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation
  • *NOTE THIS MONTH MEETING IS NOT FIRST THURSDAY. WILL BE FOURTH THURSDAY ON 22nd MARCH 2018*
  • *NOTE NEXT MONTH MEETING RETURNS TO USUAL PATTERN OF FIRST THURSDAY*
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Rock Road Branch
  • Stan - 7 or 8 people, including new guy & repeat attendee from October. Excellent experience

• HZWLUG topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one topic.
  • Web site lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which to take off
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Bridgeton Trails Branch

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• Link to past minutes and agenda.
• Link to potential tutorials, topics and speakers.
• NOTE: Monday of week (9 days) prior to General Meeting.

• SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation
  • *NOTE THIS MONTH MEETING RETURNS TO USUAL PATTERN OF FIRST THURSDAY*
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Rock Road Branch

• Needed by SLACC and HZWLUG for last half of year

• SLUUG General Meeting
  • BASE (Personal Computing):
    • Stan Reichardt - Multi-System boot from thumb drive
  • MAIN (Enterprise Computing):
    • To Be Determined (TBD)
    • Brian isn't available this month
    • Gary will try to contact Reuters guy & guy from Dell

• Future presentation from Brian: VMs on BSD
• Gary is in contact with guy from Reuters on ROS talk.
• As of April 4, Lee has received response from Charles re BlockChain presentation
• 

• STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
  • VENUE Nick and Elena's Pizzeria, 3007 Woodson Rd, Overland, MO 63114
  • Ken – X Window & shell productivity automation with AutoKey & XDoTool

• HZWLUG topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one topic.
  • Web site lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which to take off
  • *NOTE TEMPORARY LOCATION CHANGE FOR APRIL 24 2018*
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Rock Road Branch

• Nine days prior to Main SLUUG General Meeting

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• SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Rock Road Branch

• SLUUG General Meeting
  • BASE (Personal Computing):
    • To Be Determined (TBD)
    • 
  • MAIN (Enterprise Computing):
    • Gary might find UMSL person to do presentation on BlockChain

• STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
• VENUE Nick and Elena's Pizzeria, 3007 Woodson Rd, Overland, MO 63114
  • TOPIC: To Be Determined (TBD)
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• HZWLUG topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one topic.
  • Web site lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which to take off
  • *RETURN TO NORMAL LOCATION FOR MAY 22 2018*
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Bridgeton Trails Branch

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• Nine days prior to Main SLUUG General Meeting

• SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Rock Road Branch

• SLUUG General Meeting
  • BASE (Personal Computing):
    • To Be Determined (TBD)
    • 
  • MAIN (Enterprise Computing):
    • Lee – Raspberry Pi on Desktop
    • Alternative
      • Steve – Raspberry Pi mail system to replace existing enterprise grade email system

• STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
• VENUE Nick and Elena's Pizzeria, 3007 Woodson Rd, Overland, MO 63114
  • TOPIC: To Be Determined (TBD)
    • 

• HZWLUG topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one topic.
  • Web site lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which to take off
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Bridgeton Trails Branch

• 2017-05-01 For MAY
  • We had to find different VENUE. Our sponsoring host, Dr. Lemon UMSL-ITEC, has new commitments.
  • UMSL ITE meeting site will not be available after it rains.
  • Need new location for StL LUG – sponsor will be working on Robotics Competition.
• 2017-06-05 for JUNE
  • Will keep meeting at Graybar until further notice.
• 2017-06-26 for JULY
• 2017-07-31 for AUGUST
• 2017-08-28 for SEPTEMBER
  • Graybar good for remainder of 2017
• 2017-10-02
• 2017-10-30 for NOVEMBER
  • We need to start talking to Chuck Doolittle of Graybar, Dr. Lemmon UMSL-ITEC, and any others about stlLUG location.
• 2017-12-04
  • Nick and Elaina's as mtng location!!!!
  • Lee made contact with Nick and Elaina's.
  • Gary, Chuck, Lee have asked them for the room. Did we only ask about Wed? NOT Thurs???
• 2018-01-02
  • Will stlLUG return to UMSL ITE???
• 2018-02-06
• VENUE Nick and Elena's Pizzeria
• 3007 Woodson Rd, Overland, MO 63114
• 2018-03-05
  • Did we let Dr. Lemmon of UMSL know?
  • Yes. He might attend
• Feedback from Elena?
  • positive reception
• 2018-04-02
  • Gary: Web Components Group seems to be dwindling. Should we take WebDev mailing list & pass to Web Components Group?
    • Lee: no, use WebDev mailing list to promote to Web Components, after getting permission. Gary will email Lee to remind him to do this.

• 2017-12-04
  • Next time we need to make Library reservations will be 7 April 2018 - First Saturday, reserve rooms at St. Louis County Library Branches. ~ stanr
• 2018-01-02
• 2018-02-06
  • Thanks to Phil Bunch the April SLACC meeting date has been restored to the first Thursday of month pattern.
• 2018-03-05
  • Only the March SLACC meeting date remains out of sequence. Phil keeps an eye out for an 8 March opening.
  • Next deadline for reservations is 7 April; Stan & Phil Bunch will take care of it.
• 2018-04-02
  • Stan & Phil have it under control

• 2017-01-02
  • Andrew Latham did more updates
• 2017-01-30
• 2017-02-27 For MARCH
  • Lee & Earnest visited Hostirian and recovered KVM hotkeys
  • Lee, Earnest, & Mike Knight are working on Bud login delays
  • Lee worked with Jeff M. on recovering MailMan PWs. New site PW in config.html
  • All SLUUG core info is on Amber in /home/SLUUG, accessible to anyone with admin access
• 2017-04-03 for APRIL
  • Lee visited Hostirian (Bock, Bud) wrt requirement to participate in Hostirian's revenue stream.
    • Need to decide:
      • Offer DR (Disaster Recovery) service to members
      • Find revenue source to justify presence
      • Blurb special offer to members
      • Abandon Hostirian presence
    • Hard decision required by end of May 2017
  • Lee discussed with Matthew Porter (who is leaving Contegix management role)
    • What revenue is being generated for Contegix (Amber, Nick)?
    • If he's leaving active management, we might lose VM presence, including SLUUG.org (Amber)
  • Need to inventory all servers and document status WRT EOL.
    • Earnest has offered to help with this effort
• 2017-06-26 for JULY
• 2017-07-31 for AUGUST
• 2017-08-28 for SEPTEMBER
• 2017-10-02
  • Contegix wants $150 to upgrade from 6 to 7 CentOS on Nick. Lee is still considering. They will NOT let us do it ourself.
• 2017-10-30 for NOVEMBER
• 2017-12-04
• If anyone wants anything from Bud, contact Lee by December 31
• 2018-01-02
• 2018-02-06
• 2018-03-05
  • Situation at Contegix remains, running obsolete CentOS
  • Contegix has requested we move to more modern host system at much reduced monthly cost over standard rates (getting it free for past 10 years); have not yet received proposal.
• 2018-04-02
  • Mike Knight has been cleaning house to reduce volume [of Gary's email] that needs to be migrated
  • Lee has been discussing terms with Contegix for continued service
  • Lee has explored Digital Ocean – they can't send valid confirmation mail
  • Lee is willing to put up server in Bat Cave
  • Lee will attempt a June 30 target date for migration

• 2017-01-30 for FEBRUARY
  • Proposed to test at one site; can do implementation during a meeting as a presentation/group exercise. Will test 4 months before switching to another site. Directive to redirect will have to wait until very end.
• 2017-06-05 for JUNE
  • LetsEncrypt certs
    • Amber is too old – CentOS 5 is too old for basic installation. VM; no access to console. VM is running on Contegix system. Upgrading OS is hard to do; will instead move to new machine (Nick)
    • LetsEncrypt could be set up on Bud
• 2017-06-26 for JULY
• 2017-07-31 for AUGUST
• 2017-08-28 for SEPTEMBER
• 2017-10-02
• 2017-10-30 for NOVEMBER
• 2017-12-04
• 2018-01-02
• 2018-02-06
• 2018-03-05
• 2018-04-02
  • Lee: After new servers are built, this will be moot & this section can be deleted

• 2017-01-02
• 2017-01-30 For FEB
  • Andrew suggests content management system on Linux website.
• 2017-02-27 For MARCH
  • Stan R: No progress
• 2017-04-03 For APRIL
  • Gary M: No progress
• 2017-06-05 for JUNE
  • hitreport shows details of web traffic
• 2017-06-26 for JULY
• 2017-07-31 for AUGUST
• 2017-08-28 for SEPTEMBER
• 2017-10-02
  • Stan's the magician
• 2017-10-30 for NOVEMBER
  • Stan R deleted home page access to old volunteering page. It may have had an archaic e-mail address as we never received anything from it.
  • Stan R made some edits on Special Interest Group (SIG) drop down. The sLUGs SIG web page indicates end of meetings, much like other discontinued SIGs.
  • Stan R & Don E will coordinate addition of video links to home page and/or G+ page by December Steercom meeting.
• 2017-12-04
  • STLWEBDEV.ORG domain was automatically renewed
  • Stan R is asking why we're supporting the domain other than for their mailing list. He receives email, but has never been able to post on the list. Not sure how to sign up for the list.
  • Gary saw on Meetup.com a group name that sounds dedicated to the same topic. Will this one continue, or be absorbed into the Meetup?
• 2018-01-02
• 2018-02-06
  • Copyright date on web page footer changed.
  • Appearance of the drop down list of Special Interest Groups (SIGs) has been completely cleaned up by removing defunct groups.
  • Stan R has been experimenting with altering the SLUUG General Meeting current design with new structure TEST design.
    • This structure is same as the one Andrew Latham provided for the STL LUG and is now being used for all of our active LUGs.
    • Have not yet been able to figure out color scheme coding.
    • Setting the right sequence of sections for smart phone display will be important; but, is proving to be quite hard to manipulate.
    • Most sections look fine on desktop FireFox browser display; but, some are missing on smart phone display possibly because of considerable errors in HTML.
• 2018-03-05
  • Stan R had wrong meeting date on SLUUG main page (it still showed January date) and failed to update SLUUG February topics on MEETUP page.
  • Lee Lammert updated SLUUG February topics on the MEETUP page.
  • Above errors, delays and omissions may have affected SLUUG general meeting February attendance.
  • ANNOUNCE for the week and our Google Calendar entries had correct information.
• 2018-04-02
  • 

• 2017-01-30
  • A total of 273 have joined with our MEETUP.COM site (as of 29 Jan)
  • Note that some people RSVP on Meetup and don't show up. Inflates their LinkedIn stats.
• 2017-02-27 For MARCH
  • A total of 285 have joined with our MEETUP.COM site (as of 27 Feb)
  • Ken has offered to put out a call for help for volunteers to work with us setting up our social media presence.
• 2017-06-26 for JULY
• 2017-07-31 for AUGUST
• 2017-08-28 for SEPTEMBER
• 2017-10-02
• 2017-10-30 for NOVEMBER
  • A total of 325 have joined with our MEETUP.COM site (as of 30 Oct)
• 2017-12-04
  • A total of 336 have joined with our MEETUP.COM site (as of 30 Nov)
  • There is a new interface structure to MEETUP.COM maintenance, making changes difficult.
  • Example: Deleting duplicate information for SLACC meetings was hard to do and MIGHT have inadvertently sent cancellation messages.
  • We continue to need someone to help utilize MEETUP.COM resource.
  • Maintenance to MEETUP.COM is not done with scripts. It is user interface intensive. ~ stanr
  • (Stan) – Hate the world. Except for chocolate. Should we be on FaceBook or Slack for social media interaction?
• 2018-01-02
  • As of 31 December a total of 340 have joined with our MEETUP.COM site. See counts in the Other Kinda Stuff Report above.
  • (Stan) – Meetup is a PITA and he ends up missing things.
• 2018-02-06
  • A total of 348 have joined with our MEETUP.COM site, as of this January. Compared to 273 last January.
  • See https://www.meetup.com/Saint-Louis-Unix-Users-Group/
• 2018-03-05
  • A total of 360 have joined with our MEETUP.COM site, as of this February. Compared to ??? last February.
  • Unknown number have actually attended.
• 2018-04-02
  • A total of 367 have joined with our MEETUP.COM site, as of this March. Compared to 291 last March.
  • Stan wants someone else to respond to email inquiries and update calendar entries
  • One person attended March SLUUG meeting due to Meetup contact

• 2017-01-02
  • Uploaded some presentations at request - Andrew Latham
• 2017-02-27 For MARCH
  • Videos of March LUG uploaded to https://goo.gl/photos/EUcos7PJKvkB18yw7
• 2017-06-05 for JUNE
  • Don has sent link to May presentations to steercom
  • Link: https://goo.gl/photos/iSyk5WZH8KZVpZ5A6
  • Don is working on general solution to organize videos for display
• 2017-06-26 for JULY
• 2017-07-31 for AUGUST
• 2017-08-28 for SEPTEMBER
• 2017-10-02
• 2017-10-30 for NOVEMBER
• 2017-12-04
  • (Don) – need to practice posting videos on G+
• 2018-01-02
  • Don is presenting on this on Wed Jan 10
• 2018-02-06
  • Stan R gave 1 TB USB Hard Drive to Don E for copying video and voice files.
• 2018-03-05
  • Don brought HD back to Stan so he can mess around with it and get something done.
• 2018-04-02
  • With any luck, Stan will report progress before moving to Vegas

• 2017-06-05 for JUNE
  • Don is using iPhone and iPhone with external cardioid microphone for recordings
  • Not streaming; videos are uploaded and shared
• 2017-06-26 for JULY
• 2017-07-31 for AUGUST
• 2017-08-28 for SEPTEMBER
• 2017-10-02
• 2017-10-30 for NOVEMBER
  • Don E will be procuring an external microphone for use with iPhone recorder, coordinating with Lee
• 2017-12-04
  • (Don) – Lee suggested I contact Guitar Center for suggestions on microphones.
• 2018-01-02
• 2018-02-06
• 2018-03-05
  • See how Stan's editing comes out and decide if we need to buy more.
• 2018-04-02
  • Don acquired 2 GoPro Hero4 cameras for evaluation.
  • Don will visit Schiller again to get quote for solution to requirements
    • Need external power, microphone, auxiliary lens, & remoter control for two cameras
    • Will get quote so we can allocate funds

• 2017-01-30
  • Andrew & Lee: need to find a way to tell sponsors how they can donate.
  • Stan: We need to set up a page to accept donations. He will change Volunteer page to a link to accept donations (Square)
• 2017-02-27 For MARCH
  • Cupcakes & doughnuts for LUG meeting. Were brought for PHP and passed some on to us.
• 2017-06-26 for JULY
• 2017-07-31 for AUGUST
• 2017-08-28 for SEPTEMBER
• 2017-10-02
• 2017-10-30 for NOVEMBER
  • Lee has spoken with Elizabeth Laspe; maybe she can help with Nick & Elena's meeting?
• 2018-01-02
• 2018-02-06
• 2018-03-05
• 2018-04-02
  • 

• 2017-02-27 For MARCH
  • Need someone to work with Stan preparing handouts for SUSE Expert days
  • Raspberry Pi day at Science Center 3/11
  • First Friday at Science Center
• 2017-06-26 for JULY
• 2017-07-31 for AUGUST
• 2017-08-28 for SEPTEMBER
• 2017-10-02
• 2017-10-30 for NOVEMBER
• 2017-12-04
• 2018-01-02
• 2018-02-06
• 2018-03-05
• 2018-04-02
  • 

• Need new members who want to do stuff. Same as every month.
• 2017-01-02
• 2017-02-27 For MARCH
• 2017-05-01 For MAY
  • Gary asked Rich Seibel to volunteer a couple of his students to help us with social media
  • Bob asked: How do people find out about this group? Answer: I wish we knew
• 2017-06-26 for JULY
• 2017-07-31 for AUGUST
• 2017-08-28 for SEPTEMBER
• 2017-10-02
• 2017-10-30 for NOVEMBER
• 2017-12-04
• 2018-01-02
  • Lee has clipboard; has to give it to Don for entry into minutes
  • Stan has been snowed under & would like help updating list of previous presentations
• 2018-02-06
• 2018-03-05
• 2018-04-02
  • During Xmas break, grad student from Mississippi came to SNUG, SLUUG, & Linux. Gary needs to reach out to him and request the help he offered. Check signup sheets from meetings.
  • Gary expresses concern that we're not getting new members. Need to find ways to connect. Do we need to cut back on presentations or find new people?

• 2018-04-02
  • 

• When somebody does something to help!
• 2018-04-02
  • 

• Food for thought
  • Some ideas are Off-The-Record ~ NOT TO BE RECORDED!
  • Some ideas should be publized.~ SHOULD BE RECORDED!
• 2018-04-02
  • 

• April 2018 - First Saturday, reserve rooms at St. Louis County Library Branches.
• May 2018 - IRS Form 990-N for Tax Exempt Status. e-postcard.
• June 2018 - BuddyNS SLUUG account due
• June 2018 - Missouri Annual Report for Corporate Legal Status due.
  • https://bsd.sos.mo.gov/BusinessEntity/BusinessEntityDetail.aspx?page=beSearch&ID=681250
• July 2018 - SLUUG.ORG domain is domain automatic renewal? Is it with Dotster?
• October 2018 - First Saturday, reserve rooms at St. Louis County Library Branches.
• December 2018 - STLWEBDEV.ORG is domain automatic renewal?
• January 2019 - STLLINUX.ORG domain automatic renewal.
• February 2019 - SLUUG Annual Board meeting and elections.

• Everyone - Review the STEERCOM minutes, make corrections, act!
• Everyone - Talk to someone about coming to meetings.
• Everyone - Talk to someone about giving a presentation.
• Don Ellis - upload older videos to Google Photos and/or Google Docs & publish links
• Lee Lammert - Check on running joint meeting with WEBDEV folks.
• Gary Meyer - Build spreadsheet to track domain name registrations. http://bgp.he.net/ip/207.223.253.71#_dns
• Gary Meyer - Did not follow up with Noel about transferring the SLACC.COM domain to us.
  • SLACC.COM is now in use by someone else.
  • SLACC.ORG could be registered. SLACC.ORG available for sale ~ only $499
• Lee Lammert - Reminder: If anyone needs SLUUG critical info, it's stored on Amber /home/admin
• Stan R. - Remind Gary Meyer to bring Penguins to meetings and hand out pamphlets.
• Stan & Gary should get together and discuss how announce is done
• Gary & Stan will volunteer run the nomination committee for elections