NOTE: Minutes posted on the Wiki are always unofficial. Schedules for upcoming presentations are always tentative. (Some more tentative than others!)

Saint Louis Bread Company,
(at Old Olive and Olive),
10550 Old Olive Street Road,
Creve Coeur, MO 63141

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• Wednesday, December 3, 2018
  • Meeting called to order.
• Time:

Listed alphabetically by last name:

* Don Ellis

* David Forrest

* Ken Johnson

* Lee Lammert

* Gary Meyer ~ Will still be in New York for foreseeable future.* Remote

* Stan Reichardt ~ Not likely to make the 3 December meeting

* Steve Stegmann

* Andrew St. Clair

• Are there any additions, deletions, or other changes to sequence of items in the prepared agenda?
• 2018-12-03
  • 

• Don Ellis
• 2018-02-06
  • Stan: Instead of having just one individual edit wiki minutes, could we routinely round robin updating minutes?
  • Unattributed consensus: Good idea. Let's do it.
• 2018-04-02
  • We did some of that during March meeting. Seemed to help improve recording somewhat.
• 2018-04-30 for MAY
• 2018-06-04
• 2018-07-02
• 2018-07-30 for AUGUST
• 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER
• 2018-10-01
• 2018-11-07
  • Gary is in Long Island, attending remotely
• 2018-12-03
  • Gary is in Long Island, attending remotely

• SLUUG Calendar is a Google Calendar available on our web site.
• This is a calendar of technical events in the Greater St. Louis area and surrounding regions.
• Not all events are official/sponsored SLUUG events.
• Items have been added and corrected by Stan R, Gary Meyer and Don Ellis.
• Items listed on this calendar feed the ANNOUNCE weekly mailing.
• Events on HIATUS are NOT counted! Historical items are NOT counted! Only face to face meetings are counted!
• Count of number of events listed, each month, as of end of November 2018:

• xxx - numbers not yet recorded.
• ??? - Future Numbers.
• Stopped counting general StL County Library events in May 2016.
• Re-counted April 2016 without library events.

•  NOTICE We have eliminated the separate  Other Kinda Stuff Report 

• SUMMARY Mailing List Report combined with MEETUP membership count, now called Subscriber Report.
• Subscriber numbers (approximate) as of end of November 2018:

• Numbers as end of each month.
• Blocking of mailing list attachments not completely configured yet. This will be much easier to do on Amber.
• ANNOUNCE mailing list.
  • Still no volunteer editor to do a quarterly or monthly newsletter.
• Command used to generate these (as root on Bud):
  • /usr/local/mailman/bin/list_members list_name | wc -l
• xxx - numbers were not recorded.
• - - dash indicates list did not previously exist.

• We do NOT have any account access or control to our presence and videos on Google+ or YouTube.
• We do NOT know how or what to count in Google+ NOR do we know how to metric videos.
• We do NOT know how or what to count in YouTube NOR do we know how to metric videos.
• No way to change meeting dates or set temporary hiatus in Google+

• Initial mail list subscriptions are prompted by attendance sheets.
• Group leaders are responsible for taking attendance at meetings.
• Blank attendance sheets are available here
• Attendance numbers, as of end of November 2018:

• xx - attendance was taken, numbers not yet recorded.
• ?? - Question marks indicate attendance not taken or sheet missing.
• () - Number in parentheses is head count. Use head count if greater than attendance sheet count (or sheet missing).
• * - sLUGs was STL Linux Users Group for Seniors with initial meeting 8 February 2015. Discontinued October 2017.
• * - SNUG SuSe was STL Novell Users Group with lunch meeting. Discontinued December 2017.
• - - dash indicates no meeting.

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• SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Rock Road Branch

• HISTORY: Steering Committee usually meets on Monday of the week prior to (9 days) General Meeting.
• Link to past minutes and agenda.
• Link to potential tutorials, topics and speakers.
• 

• SLUUG General Meeting
  • VENUE Graybar Electric Company Inc., 11885 Lackland Road, St. Louis MO 63146
  • BASE (Personal Computing):
    • Virtual Machines on OpenBSD
    • SPEAKER: Brian Bilgere
    • COORDINATOR: Gary Meyer
      • As of 11/7, Gary believes Brian is good for presentation, but would be too short for main.
    • Dave: different room. Excellent presentation
    • Lee: Brian complained he didn't have live demo because connection didn't work. He described it well verbally

• MAIN (Enterprise Computing):
  • Logging and Troubleshooting Scripts by Chuck Doolittle, of Graybar
  • SPEAKER: Chuck Doolittle
  • COORDINATOR: Stan
    • Everybody but Stan R. forgot to let Chuck know we wanted him to do presentation.
    • Dave: Excellent presentation. Everything made sense.
    • Lee: set -x [log everything you do to the screen]

• STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
  • VENUE Nick and Elena's Pizzeria, 3007 Woodson Rd, Overland, MO 63114
  • TOPIC: MO Botanical Gardens GIS (GeoSpacial Info Sys) Applications
    • SPEAKER: Kayla Flamm
    • COORDINATOR: Ken Johnson
    • CONFIRMED: YES
    • 11/7: Gary confirmed GIS presentation is good to go
    • Didn't need possible backup: Steve & Chuck — Getting Started on Arduino
    • We made sure the restaurant waitress/server put names on order tickets!
    • 
    • Lee thinks attendance count may be low. Check again.

• HZWLUG topics are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one topic.
  • TOPICS are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one topic.
    • HZWLUG home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which to take off
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Prairie Commons (PC) Branch
    • DATE and LOCATION previously scheduled at Bridgeton Trails on Wednesday 28 November. Switched when PC opening became available.
    • NOTICE Date and Location change due to library scheduling issues for October and November.
    • We didn't do any presentation or even hook up projector.
    • Phil helped Steve Webb's spouse fix failed Linux laptop upgrade.
    • StanR helped Norm Miller install LinuxMint 19 on a laptop.
    • Various others commented, observed and made suggestions.
    • 

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• HISTORY: Steering Committee usually meets on Monday of the week prior to (9 days) General Meeting.
• Link to past minutes and agenda.
• Link to potential tutorials, topics and speakers.
• 

• SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Rock Road Branch

• VENUE Moolah Lanes, 3821 Lindell Blvd # 2, St. Louis, MO 63108

• SLUUG General Meeting
  • VENUE Graybar Electric Company Inc., 11885 Lackland Road, St. Louis MO 63146
  • BASE (Personal Computing):
    • Automatic (and free) video captioning (by Don)
    • CONFIRMED: YES
    • TENTATIVE: Ryan Coleman of Paradowski= Slack presenter via Gary Meyer
      • RColeman@Paradowski.com. (314)349-7489 349 Marshall Ave. Webster 63119
      • Lee: takes about 10 minutes to explain Slack
        • Ryan had scheduling conflicts in both Oct & Nov (per Gary on Tues Oct 2).
    • VERY TENTATIVE: Dustin Turpin, host of Open Street Map: How to be a good Slack user
      • Was not available for November, out of town. Focusing on finishing up his semester. Per email reply 2018-11-07
      • All about Slack. Describes his material as only taking 10-15 minutes.
      • As of 11/7, Dustin looks available for December 12, but not committed yet
      • Ryan also only 10-15 minutes
      • Consider joint presentation
    • Gary: One or both might not show
    • 
    • MAIN (Enterprise Computing):
      • Networking 101 (by Dave)
    • CONFIRMED: YES

• TENTATIVE: Apple interfaces and accessories for audio & video (by Don)
• TENTATIVE: Lee could talk about MySQL Workbench
• TENTATIVE: Bill Odom could say something about vim.

Note: Stan served Penguin Cheddar Snack Crackers!

• HZWLUG Our Linux Users Group for Linux Newcomers.
  • TOPICS are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one topic.
    • HZWLUG home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which to take off
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Rock Road Branch
    • DATE and LOCATION previously scheduled at Indian Trails. Old library reservation failed, under new system an opening was found.
    • NOTICE Date is Holiday schedule and LOCATION is due to library issues.
    • Note: Consider changing name to reflect that this LUG rarely meets in Hazelwood

• STLLUG is the primary St. Louis Linux Users Group.
  • VENUE Nick and Elena's Pizzeria, 3007 Woodson Rd, Overland, MO 63114
    • Make sure that the waiter/waitress/server puts a name on every order ticket.
    • Might holiday season cause us to loose out on this meeting space?
  • TOPIC: To Be Determined (TBD)
    • MySQL Workbench (by Lee)

• CONFIRMED: YES

• Lee: If we don't do MySQL Workbench at SLUUG Main, could push it to the LUG
• Gary remembers speaking to a young couple at October meeting about doing presentation on RMS distro
• Bug Gary about following up with the guy
• 
• Note: Lee will contact Nick & Elena to confirm the date isn't taken by holiday parties

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NORMAL rotation would conflict with New Year Eve and New Year Day!!!!

• HISTORY Steering Committee usually meets on Monday of the week prior to (9 days) General Meeting.
• PRIMARY possible alternative is Wednesday 2nd of January
• SECONDARY possible alternative is January 7th
• If we got enough presentations scheduled ahead we could just skip it for month of January.
• Link to past minutes and agenda.
• Link to potential tutorials, topics and speakers.
• 

• SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Rock Road Branch

• SLUUG General Meeting
  • VENUE Graybar Electric Company Inc., 11885 Lackland Road, St. Louis MO 63146
  • BASE (Personal Computing):
    • To Be Determined (TBD)
    • COORDINATOR:
    • CONFIRMED: NO
    • 

• MAIN (Enterprise Computing):
  • To Be Determined (TBD)
  • COORDINATOR:
  • CONFIRMED: NO
  • 

• STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
  • VENUE Nick and Elena's Pizzeria, 3007 Woodson Rd, Overland, MO 63114
  • TOPIC: To Be Determined (TBD)
    • COORDINATOR:
    • CONFIRMED: NO
    • 

• HZWLUG Our Linux Users Group for Linux Newcomers.
  • TOPICS are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one topic.
    • HZWLUG home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which to take off
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Rock Road Branch

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• HISTORY Steering Committee usually meets on Monday of the week prior to (9 days) General Meeting.
• Link to past minutes and agenda.
• Link to potential tutorials, topics and speakers.
• Start talking up the upcoming election
  • talk about the board
  • get people to help with operations
  • get people to attend meetings

• SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation
  • Ballots should be made available.
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Rock Road Branch

• SLUUG General Meeting
  • ANNUAL Board meeting and election.
  • Ballots should be made available.
  • VENUE Graybar Electric Company Inc., 11885 Lackland Road, St. Louis MO 63146
  • BASE (Personal Computing):
    • To Be Determined (TBD)
      • COORDINATOR:
      • CONFIRMED: NO
      • 

• MAIN (Enterprise Computing):
  • To Be Determined (TBD)
    • COORDINATOR:
    • CONFIRMED: NO
    • 

• STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
  • Ballots should be made available.
  • VENUE Nick and Elena's Pizzeria, 3007 Woodson Rd, Overland, MO 63114
  • TOPIC: To Be Determined (TBD)
    • COORDINATOR:
    • CONFIRMED: NO
    • 

• HZWLUG Our Linux Users Group for Linux Newcomers.
  • Ballots should be made available.
  • TOPICS are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one topic.
    • HZWLUG home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which to take off
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Rock Road Branch

• SUMMARY: We put up a server on the Internet for email, it grew, and now we have to maintain it.
• 2017-01-02
  • Andrew Latham did more updates
• 2017-01-30
• 2017-02-27 For MARCH
  • Lee & Earnest visited Hostirian and recovered KVM hotkeys
  • Lee, Earnest, & Mike Knight are working on Bud login delays
  • Lee worked with Jeff M. on recovering MailMan PWs. New site PW in config.html
  • All SLUUG core info is on Amber in /home/SLUUG, accessible to anyone with admin access
• 2017-04-03 for APRIL
  • Lee visited Hostirian (Bock, Bud) wrt requirement to participate in Hostirian's revenue stream.
    • Need to decide:
      • Offer DR (Disaster Recovery) service to members
      • Find revenue source to justify presence
      • Blurb special offer to members
      • Abandon Hostirian presence
    • Hard decision required by end of May 2017
  • Lee discussed with Matthew Porter (who is leaving Contegix management role)
    • What revenue is being generated for Contegix (Amber, Nick)?
    • If he's leaving active management, we might lose VM presence, including SLUUG.org (Amber)
  • Need to inventory all servers and document status WRT EOL.
    • Earnest has offered to help with this effort
• 2017-06-26 for JULY
• 2017-07-31 for AUGUST
• 2017-08-28 for SEPTEMBER
• 2017-10-02
  • Contegix wants $150 to upgrade from 6 to 7 CentOS on Nick. Lee is still considering. They will NOT let us do it ourself.
• 2017-10-30 for NOVEMBER
• 2017-12-04
• If anyone wants anything from Bud, contact Lee by December 31
• 2018-01-02
• 2018-02-06
• 2018-03-05
  • Situation at Contegix remains, running obsolete CentOS
  • Contegix has requested we move to more modern host system at much reduced monthly cost over standard rates (getting it free for past 10 years); have not yet received proposal.
• 2018-04-02
  • Mike Knight has been cleaning house to reduce volume [of Gary's email] that needs to be migrated
  • Lee has been discussing terms with Contegix for continued service
  • Lee has explored Digital Ocean – they can't send valid confirmation mail
  • Lee is willing to put up server in Bat Cave
  • Lee will attempt a June 30 target date for migration
• 2018-04-30 for MAY
  • We have new VPS (Virtual Private Server) – Michelob, abbreviation "m"
    • Located in Bat Cave
    • Debian 9
    • See Lee for access
  • Set goal to configure Michelob to go live by end of May
    • Work days to be scheduled
      • Web first half May
      • email & mailing lists second half May
• 2018-06-04
  • BOCK Transition Team met in Bat Cave on Wednesday 23 and Wednesday 30 May. Next session will be Wednesday 6 June.
  • BOCK Transition Team members Chuck Doolittle, Don Ellis (23 May), Mike Knight, Lee Lammert, Andrew St Clair, Stan Reichardt, and Steve Stegmann
  • Chuck Doolittle volunteered to set up *automated* LetsEncrypt free SSL certificates for websites on BOCK.
  • Andrew: We have running todo list on sysadmin tasks
• 2018-07-02
  • BOCK Transition Team met in Bat Cave on …
  • BOCK Transition Team members Chuck Doolittle, Don Ellis (23 May), Mike Knight, Lee Lammert, Andrew St Clair, Stan Reichardt, Steve Stegmann, and Gary Meyer.
  • Ongoing AMBER replacement wiki documentation

  •  NOTE Surrounding pasted notes with < code > and < / code > tags improve display ~ stanr.  

  • The XFER of all functions to BOCK on the VM at OMNItec (and off of Amber at Contegix) will happen TONITE after this SteerCom mtng. Lee has tested mail clients.
• 2018-07-30 for AUGUST
  • Stan reports that we need to arrange to set up separate cert for stllug.org domain since it doesn’t match wildcard. Must be sure and continue paying for it!
    • Lee points out we can set up Stllinux.org to redirect to stllinux.sluug.org and avoid the warnings.
• 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER
• 2018-10-01
  • Bock is humming
  • Lee has to install SpamAssassin
  • At some time may need to move to different hosts, but that won’t affect anything other than maybe a few hours downtime.
• 2018-11-07
  • November 2018 - *automated* LetsEncrypt free SSL certificates for websites on BOCK.
  • Lee reported it as done in October.
  • Consider that URLs www.stllinux.org and www.stllug.org both transition to http://stllug.sluug.org
  • Lee: Servers are running. Still need to do email filtering.
  • QUESTION (Stan): Do we have to worry about losing ownership of those two domains?
• 2018-12-03
  • ANSWER (Lee): Autorenew via Dotster – sluug, stllinux, stlwebdev

• SUMMARY: Room reservations at Saint Louis County Library Branches are available on each first Saturday of October and April.
• HISTORY: We routinely reserve and pay fees for monthly SIG meetings at various Saint Louis County Library Branches.
• 2017-12-04
  • Next time we need to make Library reservations will be 7 April 2018 - First Saturday, reserve rooms at St. Louis County Library Branches. ~ stanr
• 2018-01-02
• 2018-02-06
  • Thanks to Phil Bunch the April SLACC meeting date has been restored to the first Thursday of month pattern.
• 2018-03-05
  • Only the March SLACC meeting date remains out of sequence. Phil keeps an eye out for an 8 March opening.
  • Next deadline for reservations is 7 April; Stan & Phil Bunch will take care of it.
• 2018-04-02
  • Needed by SLACC and HZWLUG for last half of year
  • Stan & Phil have it under control
• 2018-04-30 for MAY
  • Phil Bunch had success with all SLACC meeting dates and using Rock Road locations. Stan missed Saturday registration for HZWLUG.
  • All preferred Prairie Commons dates were Library reserved anyway, and differing dates and locations had to be found. The Indian Trails Branch messed up confirmations.
  • STL County Library Reservation made for SLACC and HZWLUG done, two payments still needed. i
  • Our web page schedules updated, still need to update location information on our Google calendar and all MEETUP information.
  • Problem with activating new Regions bank card used to make payments.
• 2018-06-04
  • Was able to pay for rooms with new Regions bank card; but, one of the meetings may not be properly credited by library.
  • The new Regions bank card may need to be realigned with different Federal account number.
• 2018-07-02
• 2018-07-30 for AUGUST
• 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER
• 2018-10-01
  • Saint Louis County Library Room Reservations for SLACC and HZWLUG to be made October 6
  • Stan R unavailable; Phil Bunch had volunteered and Dave F. was to check in with him Tue 10/2
  • Phil agreed to handle making SLACC and HZWLUG reservations. Stan R provided paperwork to Phil.
• 2018-11-07
  • Library had new reservation system.
  • New reservation system revealed that one December 2018 session had not been booked.
  • Unfamiliar staff booked some HZWLUG meetings to wrong branch.
  • Corrected reservations, confirmed all and paid all.
  • HZWLUG and SLACC home pages have been updated to indicate scheduled dates and room codes.
  • The next reservation cycle will begin again the first Saturday of April.
• 2018-12-03
  • Gary: System wide county library have changed reservation procedures around Oct 2018; working out bugs, had problems a month or so, but now seems to be working well.

• SUMMARY: Our traditional Internet presence is with our main SLUUG web site.
• 2017-01-02
• 2017-01-30 For FEB
  • Andrew suggests content management system on Linux website.
• 2017-02-27 For MARCH
  • Stan R: No progress
• 2017-04-03 For APRIL
  • Gary M: No progress
• 2017-06-05 for JUNE
  • hitreport shows details of web traffic
• 2017-06-26 for JULY
• 2017-07-31 for AUGUST
• 2017-08-28 for SEPTEMBER
• 2017-10-02
  • Stan's the magician
• 2017-10-30 for NOVEMBER
  • Stan R deleted home page access to old volunteering page. It may have had an archaic e-mail address as we never received anything from it.
  • Stan R made some edits on Special Interest Group (SIG) drop down. The sLUGs SIG web page indicates end of meetings, much like other discontinued SIGs.
  • Stan R & Don E will coordinate addition of video links to home page and/or G+ page by December Steercom meeting.
• 2017-12-04
  • STLWEBDEV.ORG domain was automatically renewed
  • Stan R is asking why we're supporting the domain other than for their mailing list. He receives email, but has never been able to post on the list. Not sure how to sign up for the list.
  • Gary saw on Meetup.com a group name that sounds dedicated to the same topic. Will this one continue, or be absorbed into the Meetup?
• 2018-01-02
• 2018-02-06
  • Copyright date on web page footer changed.
  • Appearance of the drop down list of Special Interest Groups (SIGs) has been completely cleaned up by removing defunct groups.
  • Stan R has been experimenting with altering the SLUUG General Meeting current design with new structure TEST design.
    • This structure is same as the one Andrew Latham provided for the STL LUG and is now being used for all of our active LUGs.
    • Have not yet been able to figure out color scheme coding.
    • Setting the right sequence of sections for smart phone display will be important; but, is proving to be quite hard to manipulate.
    • Most sections look fine on desktop FireFox browser display; but, some are missing on smart phone display possibly because of considerable errors in HTML.
• 2018-03-05
  • Stan R had wrong meeting date on SLUUG main page (it still showed January date) and failed to update SLUUG February topics on MEETUP page.
  • Lee Lammert updated SLUUG February topics on the MEETUP page.
  • Above errors, delays and omissions may have affected SLUUG general meeting February attendance.
  • ANNOUNCE for the week and our Google Calendar entries had correct information.
• 2018-04-02
• 2018-04-30 for MAY
  • Stan R has updated SLACC and Hazelwood meeting dates on respective update pages.
• 2018-06-04
  • Stan R is updating HTML pages on BOCK.
  • Special Interest Group meeting sites SLACC, STLLINUX and Hazelwood have been updated for June.
  • General meeting home page is a work in progress. What sponsor do I remove?
    • Lee: better question is "what sponsors do I keep?"
• 2018-07-02
  • Somehow the Sponsored Events half of the SLUUG Google Calendar lost permissions and had to be reset. That had caused loss of our abbreviated calendars on all web sites.
  • Andrew Latham provided some very constructive criticism on Stan R's effort to develop future replacement main SLUUG test page.
• 2018-07-30 for AUGUST
  • Stan is the magician
  • Stan: what happens come January?
    • Lee: we’ll just make sure Stan can’t sell the house.
• 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER
• 2018-10-01
  • Stan R had switched main SLUUG home page style to smartphone friendlier format.
  • Stanford B complained about incorrect feature. Stan R suggested Stanford B could volunteer to fix. (Sound of crickets chirping.)
• 2018-11-07
• 2018-12-03
  • QUESTION: Are there any significant problems with the new home page style?
  • ANSWER: (Don) I had problem selecting the Wiki from top menu. Menu vanished when I scrolled down below item #6. Menu is white text, transparent over pale blue background. I scrolled all the way to bottom to get another list of links. Dave suggested clicking on the menu head, which opens another page of links.
  • 

• SUMMARY: We have presence on MEETUP.COM.
• 2017-01-30
  • A total of 273 have joined with our MEETUP.COM site (as of 29 Jan)
  • Note that some people RSVP on Meetup and don't show up. Inflates their LinkedIn stats.
• 2017-02-27 For MARCH
  • A total of 285 have joined with our MEETUP.COM site (as of 27 Feb)
  • Ken has offered to put out a call for help for volunteers to work with us setting up our social media presence.
• 2017-06-26 for JULY
• 2017-07-31 for AUGUST
• 2017-08-28 for SEPTEMBER
• 2017-10-02
• 2017-10-30 for NOVEMBER
  • A total of 325 have joined with our MEETUP.COM site (as of 30 Oct)
• 2017-12-04
  • A total of 336 have joined with our MEETUP.COM site (as of 30 Nov)
  • There is a new interface structure to MEETUP.COM maintenance, making changes difficult.
  • Example: Deleting duplicate information for SLACC meetings was hard to do and MIGHT have inadvertently sent cancellation messages.
  • We continue to need someone to help utilize MEETUP.COM resource.
  • Maintenance to MEETUP.COM is not done with scripts. It is user interface intensive. ~ stanr
  • Stan R – Hate the world. Except for chocolate. Should we be on FaceBook or Slack for social media interaction?
• 2018-01-02
  • As of 31 December a total of 340 have joined with our MEETUP.COM site. See counts in the Other Kinda Stuff Report above.
  • (Stan) – Meetup is a PITA and he ends up missing things.
• 2018-02-06
  • A total of 348 have joined with our MEETUP.COM site, as of this January. Compared to 273 last January.
  • See https://www.meetup.com/Saint-Louis-Unix-Users-Group/
• 2018-03-05
  • A total of 360 have joined with our MEETUP.COM site, as of this February. Compared to ??? last February.
  • Unknown number have actually attended.
• 2018-04-02
  • A total of 367 have joined with our MEETUP.COM site, as of this March. Compared to 291 last March.
  • Stan wants someone else to respond to email inquiries and update calendar entries
  • One person attended March SLUUG meeting due to Meetup contact
• 2018-04-30 for MAY
  • A total of 372 have joined with our MEETUP.COM site, as of this April. Compared to 299 last April.
• 2018-06-04
  • Transferred other social media issues to separate category.
  • We continue to need someone to help utilize MEETUP.COM resource.
• 2018-07-02
• 2018-07-30 for AUGUST
  • Stan: Meetup maintenance is a PITA
• 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER
• 2018-10-01
• 2018-11-07
  • Gary Meyer has signed up with MEETUP. Stan R elevated him to CO-ORGANIZER status so he can maintain pages and events.
• 2018-12-03
  • QUESTION: Should anyone else be elevated to CO-ORGANIZE status?
  • ANSWER: (Gary) Yes. Any volunteers?

• SUMMARY: We presume that our single web site isn't enough to draw younger crowd.
• 2017-02-27
• In February 2017 Ken offered to put out a call for help for volunteers to work with us setting up our social media presence.
• 2017-12-04
  • (Stan R) – Hate the world. Except for chocolate. Should we be on FaceBook or Slack for social media interaction?
• 2018-06-04
  • Internet Presence on Social Media other than MEETUP.COM site needs to be addressed separately.
  • Transferred other social media issues from Internet Presence to separate stanzas here.
  • We have no presence on FACEBOOK or TWITTER.
  • We have lost control of our presence on GOOGLE+ and YOUTUBE. We don't even know how to count anything there.
  • See counts in the Other Kinda Stuff Report above.
• 2018-07-02
• 2018-07-30 for AUGUST
• 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER
  • Stan stated MEETUP.COM editing is problematic.
  • Stan stated that we STILL don’t have control of Google+ and YouTube
• 2018-10-01
  • Andrew MAY have been creator of G+ and YouTube presence
• 2018-11-07
• 2018-12-03
  • We do NOT know how or what to count in Google+ NOR do we know how to metric videos.
  • We do NOT know how or what to count in YouTube NOR do we know how to metric videos.
  • We do NOT have any account access or control to our presence and videos on Google+ or YouTube.
  • No way to change meeting dates or set temporary hiatus in Google+
  • NOTE: Google+ will be shut down by the end of August 2019
  • https://www.cnet.com/news/google-reportedly-exposed-data-of-hundreds-of-thousands-of-google-users/
  • What do we do about videos that are up there? Do we have them archived? Do we need to capture them? Move them to U-Tube? Do we do nothing?
  • Stan R obtained hard drive containing Don's videos and voice recordings without having made any progress in trying to combine them.
  • QUESTION: Does it matter, do we know what to do, or does anyone care?
  • ANSWER: Gary will pursue G+; Don will pursue YouTube
    • Credentials, etc

• SUMMARY: We have recorded many of our past meetings and made them available on the Internet.
• 2017-01-02
  • Uploaded some presentations at request - Andrew Latham
• 2017-02-27 For MARCH
  • Videos of March LUG uploaded to https://goo.gl/photos/EUcos7PJKvkB18yw7
• 2017-06-05 for JUNE
  • Don has sent link to May presentations to steercom
  • Link: https://goo.gl/photos/iSyk5WZH8KZVpZ5A6
  • Don is working on general solution to organize videos for display
• 2017-06-26 for JULY
• 2017-07-31 for AUGUST
• 2017-08-28 for SEPTEMBER
• 2017-10-02
• 2017-10-30 for NOVEMBER
• 2017-12-04
  • (Don) – need to practice posting videos on GOOGLE+
• 2018-01-02
  • Don is presenting on this on Wed Jan 10
• 2018-02-06
  • Stan R gave 1 TB USB Hard Drive to Don E for copying video and voice files.
• 2018-03-05
  • Don brought HD back to Stan R so he can mess around with it and get something done.
• 2018-04-02
  • With any luck, Stan R will report progress before moving to Vegas
• 2018-04-30 for MAY
  • Stan R has not yet made progress
• 2018-06-04
  • Stan: HD is still in plastic bag
• 2018-07-02
• 2018-07-30 for AUGUST
• 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER
• 2018-10-01
  • Dave suggested finding auto CC system. Requires research
• 2018-11-07
  • Stan R obtained hard drive containing Don's videos and voice recordings without having made any progress in trying to combine them.
  • QUESTION: Does it matter, do we know what to do, or does anyone care?
    • Stan will be using his stream editor to combine the videos
  • Lee: Don needs to discover SLUUG video credentials and place them at bock:/home/SLUUG
  • QUESTION: Please explain "Share gmail data with screichardt@gmail.com"
• 2018-12-03
  • 

• SUMMARY: We try to record many of our meetings.
• 2017-06-05 for JUNE
  • Don is using iPhone and iPhone with external cardioid microphone for recordings
  • Not streaming; videos are uploaded and shared
• 2017-06-26 for JULY
• 2017-07-31 for AUGUST
• 2017-08-28 for SEPTEMBER
• 2017-10-02
• 2017-10-30 for NOVEMBER
  • Don E will be procuring an external microphone for use with iPhone recorder, coordinating with Lee
• 2017-12-04
  • (Don) – Lee suggested I contact Guitar Center for suggestions on microphones.
• 2018-01-02
• 2018-02-06
• 2018-03-05
  • See how Stan's editing comes out and decide if we need to buy more.
• 2018-04-02
  • Don acquired 2 GoPro Hero4 cameras for evaluation.
  • Don will visit Schiller again to get quote for solution to requirements
    • Need external power, microphone, auxiliary lens, & remoter control for two cameras
    • Will get quote so we can allocate funds
• 2018-04-30 for MAY
  • Don returned 2 GoPro Hero4
    • one DOA
    • second camera demonstrated that file format is too bulky
      • second camera was defective
  • Don acquired directional microphone and mic mount for iPhone, and tripod for mic mounted assembly
    • Don is testing revised configuration
• 2018-06-04
  • Don: No progress yet – will revisit next month
• 2018-07-02
• 2018-07-30 for AUGUST
• 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER
• 2018-10-01
• 2018-11-07
  • Stan R obtained hard drive containing Don's videos and voice recordings without having made any progress in trying to combine them.
  • QUESTION: Does it matter, do we know what to do, or does anyone care?
  • Don: Microphone bought online is not adequate; will continue to search
  • Lee suggested going to Schiller's and getting shotgun mic with 3.5mm
• 2018-12-03
  • ANSWER: see under "Uploading Presentations" above
  • Don needs to visit Schiller's again
  • 

• SUMMARY: We seek financial support from the tech community.
• HISTORY: We are not good at it.
• 2017-01-30
  • Andrew & Lee: need to find a way to tell sponsors how they can donate.
  • Stan: We need to set up a page to accept donations. He will change Volunteer page to a link to accept donations (Square)
• 2017-02-27 For MARCH
  • Cupcakes & doughnuts for LUG meeting. Were brought for PHP and passed some on to us.
• 2017-06-26 for JULY
• 2017-07-31 for AUGUST
• 2017-08-28 for SEPTEMBER
• 2017-10-02
• 2017-10-30 for NOVEMBER
  • Lee has spoken with Elizabeth Laspe; maybe she can help with Nick & Elena's meeting?
• 2018-01-02
• 2018-02-06
• 2018-03-05
• 2018-04-02
• 2018-04-30 for MAY
• 2018-06-04
  • Nada
• 2018-07-02
• 2018-07-30
• 2018-07-30 for AUGUST
• 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER
• 2018-10-01
  • Gary commented on last week’s DevOps meeting - poor presentation but good food resulted in good attendance.
  • How do we get headhunters & job hunters to attend, resulting in good food.
  • Or, how to get commercial software vendors to sponsor meeting if we’re not in market for the software?
• 2018-11-07
  • The new style SLUUG home page no longer features a rotating sponsor logo display.
  • QUESTION: Does it matter, do we know what to do, or does anyone care?
    • Consider this a moot point, since we don't have enough to rotate (other than Lee).
• 2018-12-03
  • ANSWER: Ads are gone on new website

• SUMMARY: The ANNOUNCE mailing is a weekly extract of our SLUUG GOOGLE Calendar of Events.
• HISTORY: The subscriber list has been populated from attendance sheets by a nominating subscription process.
• 2018-04-30 for MAY
  • Stan found himself remiss in nominating attendee email addresses from attendance sheets.
    • Procrastination is ugly. Until this weekend, none of email addresses for all of 2017 were nominated to ANNOUNCE and DISCUSS mailing lists.
    • Suggest we emphasise self registration at each meeting by way of our web resource sign up pages.
    • Print more cards with sign up procedure to hand out at meetings
    • If nobody other than Stan R will build weekly ANNOUNCE mailing, why bother with ANNOUNCE list?
• 2018-06-04
  • At a few meetings in May we pointed new attendees to self registration by way of our web resource sign up pages.
  • With the transition from AMBER to BOCK we switched to using web pages on BOCK where mailing list sign ups are broken.
  • Magnanimous Mike Knight provided a DNS procedure with local /etc/host which provided a work-around process.
  • Stan R was able to send out the ANNOUNCE mailing using that work-around process.
  • Andrew St Clair wrote a script to help massage ANNOUNCE text; but, GOOGLE changed calendar text structure, negating effort.
  • Gary M never got together with Stan R to see how ANNOUNCE was assembled and deployed (Outstanding action item since 2017-06).
• 2018-07-02
• 2018-07-30 for AUGUST
• 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER
• 2018-10-01
  • Lee loves it, scans it every time it comes out
• 2018-11-07
  • Stan R failed to provide 1 November SLACC meeting listing with extra expanded editing to stand out in the 29 October mailing.
  • Subsequent posting to DISCUSS list used extra expanded editing features.
• 2018-12-03
  • QUESTION: Would someone else (besides Stan R) take on generating the weekly ANNOUNCE mailing?
  • PROPOSAL: scrape info from calendar into weekly ANNOUNCE; send ANNOUNCE to Meetup email address

• SUMMARY: We have informational handout PDFs available http://www.sluug.org/resources/handouts/.
• HISTORY: The PDFs are generated with LibreOffice. The originating files are stored along with generated PDFs.
• 2017-02-27 For MARCH
  • Need someone to work with Stan preparing handouts for SUSE Expert days
  • Raspberry Pi day at Science Center 3/11
  • First Friday at Science Center
• 2017-06-26 for JULY
• 2017-07-31 for AUGUST
• 2017-08-28 for SEPTEMBER
• 2017-10-02
• 2017-10-30 for NOVEMBER
• 2017-12-04
• 2018-01-02
• 2018-02-06
• 2018-03-05
• 2018-04-02
• 2018-04-30 for MAY
  • Would be nice to have handouts to leave at ARIN meeting
  • Handouts would be excellent test of capabilities of Lee's new printer
• 2018-06-04
  • Does anyone NOT KNOW where to get our handouts, so that they could print and fold them?
• 2018-07-02
  • Does anyone KNOW where to get our handouts, so that they could print and fold them?
• 2018-07-30 for AUGUST
• 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER
• 2018-10-01
  • Should get handouts for SUSE meeting
  • If Lee can find right PDF, can make 20-30 copies
  • Lee has new printer
  • Stan was volunteered to tell Lee which brochures to print. Stan didn't volunteer.
• 2018-11-07
• 2018-12-03
  • QUESTION: Would someone else (besides Stan R) take on printing and maintaining an inventory of our brochures?
  • ANSWER: Lee will print them if someone will tell him what they want.
  • Gary: We still need someone to dictate content of handouts

• 2018-10-01
  • Gary suggests buying several of the packs @$1 to give out at meetings.
  • see unixstickers.com stickermule.com (same site)
  • Board ad hoc approved that Gary will purchase some stickers to use as giveaways.
• 2018-11-07
• 2018-11-07
  • Gary didn't realize that he was volunteered, since he is out of town momentum will likely be slow.
• 2018-12-03
  • QUESTION: Would someone else (besides Gary M) assume the mission?
  • ANSWER: Lee can't find source for printing tux key stickers

• 2018-06-04
  • Thoughts about announcing workshops for summer meetings instead of actual topics. Prevent having to develop presentations. OTOH, would be helpful to have topics for the workshops, so not zero effort.
• 2018-07-02
  • Stan R posted to DISCUSS mailing list an item with SUBJECT: Possible SLUUG Summer Workshops, inviting feedback on the topic.
• 2018-07-30 for AUGUST
  • Stan: Being in the middle of summer, seems a little late to try anything, other than gather opinions for next year.
• 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER
  • Start planning next April for summertime hiatus
  • Schedule “workshops” in July & August
• 2018-10-01
• 2018-11-07
• 2018-12-03
  • QUESTION: Should/Would someone set up a www.strawpoll.me questionnaire to promote and evaluate interest?
  • ANSWER: (Gary) Should: Yes. Would: No. No movement toward setting up and pushing questionnaire.

• SUMMARY: We don't have enough volunteers to do everything consistently.
• Need new members who want to do stuff. Same as every month.
• 2017-01-02
• 2017-02-27 For MARCH
• 2017-05-01 For MAY
  • Gary asked Rich Seibel to volunteer a couple of his students to help us with social media
  • Bob asked: How do people find out about this group? Answer: I wish we knew
• 2017-06-26 for JULY
• 2017-07-31 for AUGUST
• 2017-08-28 for SEPTEMBER
• 2017-10-02
• 2017-10-30 for NOVEMBER
• 2017-12-04
• 2018-01-02
  • Lee has clipboard; has to give it to Don for entry into minutes
  • Stan has been snowed under & would like help updating list of previous presentations
• 2018-02-06
• 2018-03-05
• 2018-04-02
  • During Xmas break, grad student from Mississippi came to SNUG, SLUUG, & Linux. Gary needs to reach out to him and request the help he offered. Check sign up sheets from meetings.
  • Gary expresses concern that we're not getting new members. Need to find ways to connect. Do we need to cut back on presentations or find new people?
• 2018-04-30 for MAY
  • Two or three potential new members among new attendees
• 2018-06-04
• 2018-07-02
• 2018-07-30 for AUGUST
• 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER
• 2018-10-01
  • Stan has done awesome work. Promises to leave by around January.
    • If Stan leaves, many tasks he does will have to be done by someone else
  • How can we get someone to perform these tasks?
    • Website?
    • Weekly announce list?
  • Might have to reduce meetings
    • Main vs Linux?
    • Hazelwood, SLACC?
• 2018-11-07
• 2018-12-03
  • QUESTION: Any new volunteers to help?
  • 

• 2018-12-03
  • QUESTION: Is there any new business to consider?
  • YES, Stan R would like to rename the Hazelwood LUG to the Newcomer LUG.
  • BACKGROUND: Phil Bunch commented that the November HZWLUG was finally meeting in Hazelwood.
  • Stan R and Gary Meyer discussed, realized that the Hazelwood LUG name was confusing to new attendees.
  • Stan R would like to transition web site from https://hzwlug.sluug.org/ to https://newlug.sluug.org/.
  • Stan R would rather use term newcomer instead of newbie or beginner whenever possible.
    • Consensus: Lee, Dave, Don, & Gary concur

• SUMMARY: When somebody does something to help!
• 2018-12-03
  • QUESTION: Did anyone do anything helpful?
    • Stan did the agenda, got everything else out. Doing a really good job.
    • Kudos to Mike for fixing https config issue in Apache on LUG site.
    • Gary: to Stan, Don, Dave, Lee, Chuck for helping keep the organization running, volunteering for presentations, etc
    • Thanks to Dave for sending thankyou note to Kayla for LUG presentation

• SUMMARY: Food for thought ~ anything not previously covered that provides mental stimulus for thinking about improvements or problems.
  • Some ideas are Off-The-Record ~ NOT TO BE RECORDED!
  • Some ideas should be publicized.~ SHOULD BE RECORDED!
  • If a speaker believes something should not be recorded, the record operator needs to be notified.
  • Each speaker should initially declare whether an idea should be recorded or not.
  • Each speaker should initially declare whether GPS location should be recorded or not.
• 2018-12-03
  • QUESTION: Any new ideas?
  • Lee: Send Announce email to Meetup group instead of updating Meetup page every month

• Wednesday, November 7, 2018
  • QUESTION: When was meeting adjourned?
  • Time: 8:38pm CST

• November 2018 - *automated* LetsEncrypt free SSL certificates for websites on BOCK.
  • Lee reports it is done
• January 2019 - STLLINUX.ORG domain automatic renewal.
• February 2019 - SLUUG Annual Board meeting and elections.
  • Verify renewal of certs with LetsEncrypt
• March 2019 - Count Ballots
• April 2019 - First Saturday, reserve rooms at St. Louis County Library Branches.
• June 2019 - BuddyNS SLUUG account due
  • Lee is updating account
• June 2019 - Missouri Annual Report for Corporate Legal Status due.
  • https://bsd.sos.mo.gov/BusinessEntity/BusinessEntityDetail.aspx?page=beSearch&ID=681250
  • Lee was considering changing mailing address
• July 2019 - SLUUG.ORG domain is domain automatic renewal? Is it with Dotster?
  • Lee was going to update credit card info. Done.
• October 2019 - First Saturday, reserve rooms at St. Louis County Library Branches.
• December 2019 - STLWEBDEV.ORG is domain automatic renewal?
• April 2020 - First Saturday, reserve rooms at St. Louis County Library Branches.
• January 2020 - STLLINUX.ORG domain automatic renewal.
• February 2020 - SLUUG Annual Board meeting and elections.
• March 2020 - Count Ballots
• May 2020 - IRS Form 990-N for Tax Exempt Status. e-postcard.

• Everyone - Review the STEERCOM minutes, make corrections, act!
• Everyone - Talk to someone about coming to meetings.
• Everyone - Talk to someone about giving a presentation.
• Don Ellis - upload older videos to Google Photos and/or Google Docs & publish links
• Gary Meyer - Build spreadsheet to track domain name registrations. See http://bgp.he.net/ip/207.223.253.71#_dns
• Gary Meyer - Did not follow up with Noel about transferring the SLACC.COM domain to us.
  • SLACC.COM is now in use by someone else.
  • SLACC.ORG could be registered. SLACC.ORG available for sale ~ only $499
• Lee Lammert - Reminder: If anyone needs SLUUG critical info, it's stored on Amber /home/SLUUG
• Stan R. ~ Remind Gary Meyer to bring Penguins to meetings and hand out pamphlets.
• Stan and Gary should get together and discuss how ANNOUNCE is done
• Next March or April:
  • schedule workshops for July and August
• Possible presentation - suggested 11/7/18
  • Apple interfaces and accessories for audio & video (by Don)
• Possible presentation (Stan R item) - suggested 12/3/18 by Lee
  • Identify/contact couple who attended Lee's Pi presentation, brought Pi cluster running Kubernetes