NOTE: Minutes posted on the Wiki are always unofficial. Schedules for upcoming presentations are always tentative. (Some more tentative than others!)

Panera ~ Saint Louis Bread Company,
(at Old Olive and Olive),
10550 Old Olive Street Road,
Creve Coeur, MO 63141

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• Monday, April 29th, 2019 for MAY
• Meeting called to order.
• Time: 7:08pm

Listed alphabetically by last name:

* Chuck Doolittle

* Don Ellis

* David Forrest

* Ken Johnson

* Lee Lammert

* Gary Meyer

* Stan Reichardt

* Steve Stegmann

• Are there any additions, deletions, or other changes to sequence of items in the prepared agenda?
• 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
  • 

• Don Ellis
• 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO JANUARY AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
• 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
  • 

• SLUUG Calendar is a Google Calendar available on our web site.
• This is a calendar of technical events in the Greater St. Louis area and surrounding regions.
• Not all events are official/sponsored SLUUG events.
• Items have been added and corrected by Stan R, Gary Meyer and Don Ellis.
• Items listed on this calendar feed the ANNOUNCE weekly mailing.
• Events on HIATUS are NOT counted! Historical items are NOT counted! Only face to face meetings are counted!
• Count of number of events listed, each month, as of end of April 2019:

• xxx - numbers not yet recorded.
• ??? - Future Numbers.
• Stopped counting general StL County Library events in May 2016.
• Re-counted April 2016 without library events.

• SUMMARY Mailing List Report combined with MEETUP membership count, now called Subscriber Report.
• Subscriber numbers (approximate) as of end of April 2019:

• Numbers as end of each month.
• Blocking of mailing list attachments not completely configured yet. This will be much easier to do on Amber.
• ANNOUNCE mailing list.
  • Still no volunteer editor to do a quarterly or monthly newsletter.
• Command used to generate these (as root on Bud):
  • /usr/local/mailman/bin/list_members list_name | wc -l (This doesn't seem to work on Bock.)
• xxx - numbers were not recorded.
• - - dash indicates list did not previously exist.

• We do NOT have any account access or control to our presence and videos on Google+ or YouTube.
• We do NOT know how or what to count in Google+ NOR do we know how to metric videos.
• We do NOT know how or what to count in YouTube NOR do we know how to metric videos.
• No way to change meeting dates or set temporary hiatus in Google+

• Initial mail list subscriptions are prompted by attendance sheets.
• Group leaders are responsible for taking attendance at meetings.
• Blank attendance sheets are available here
• Attendance numbers, as of end of April 2019:

• xx - attendance was taken, numbers not yet recorded.
• ?? - Question marks indicate attendance not taken or sheet missing.
• () - Number in parentheses is head count. Use head count if greater than attendance sheet count (or sheet missing).
• * - sLUGs was STL Linux Users Group for Seniors with initial meeting 8 February 2015. Discontinued October 2017.
• * - SNUG SuSe was STL Novell Users Group with lunch meeting. Discontinued December 2017.
• - - dash indicates no meeting.

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• HISTORY Steering Committee usually meets on Monday of the week prior to (9 days) General Meeting.
• VENUE Panera ~ St. Louis Bread Co., 10550 Old Olive Street Rd, Creve Coeur, MO 63141
• Link to past minutes and agenda.
• Link to potential tutorials, topics and speakers.
• 

• SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Thornhill Branch
    • Need to show activity on Meetup so we are listed in calendar
  • Phil working on router so folks without wifi cards can get Internet access.

• GPS clock rolls over
  • 6:59pm St Louis Time, midnight UDT
  • Little problems. Old hardware problem was notified to NANOG, GE upgrade notices for Boeing aircraft were not applied in China. One Finland plane returned to ground after noticing problem.

• SLUUG General Meeting
  • VENUE Graybar Electric Company Inc., 11885 Lackland Road, St. Louis MO 63146
  • BASE (Personal Computing):
  • TOPIC: GNU Make Your Life Easier by Ryan J. Price, Slalom Consulting, Clayton
    • COORDINATOR: Gary
    • CONFIRMED: YES
    • ABSTRACT: YES
    • BIO: YES
    • Really got across enthuziasm for "make". Well done, a little difficult to follow
    • if you didn't understan his choice of language.
  • MAIN (Enterprise Computing):
  • TOPIC: Rehoming Web Sites to Docker Containers by Chuck
    • COORDINATOR: Gary
    • CONFIRMED: YES
    • ABSTRACT: NO
    • BIO: NO
      • Everybody said was good. Could have been better if shown on bare metal.
      • Some don't really get virtuallization.

• STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
  • VENUE Nick and Elena's Pizzeria, 3007 Woodson Rd, Overland, MO 63114
  • TOPIC: Ken Johnson, Password Managers, How and Why
    • COORDINATOR: Gary
    • CONFIRMED: YES
    • ABSTRACT: YES
    • BIO: YES
    • New waitress too noisy.
    • Always good that Ken starts out with the problem that led to the project.
    • Pacing was nice. Topic for another presentation about offline storage of
    • the password vault of choice.

• NEWLUG Our Linux Users Group for Linux Newcomers.
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Bridgeton Trails Branch
  • TOPICS are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one topic.
    • NEWLUG home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which to take off
  • Stan had 4 thumb drives with 30GB videos for newcomers. People came out and loaded them. Dave just returned his to Stan. Those with laptops (USB3) copied very fast!
  • Stan now has a lot of pretty pictures on the returned thumb drives!
  • Dave says there were a lot of newcomers who've attended 7-8 years, mostly old timers.
  • Stan is surprised at how many people are ready for CLI after using Mint for a month or two.
  • Gary shared how one guy was interested in how GPS works.
  • Dave & Stan discussed Julian dates and how useful they are in absolute time systems.

• HISTORY Steering Committee usually meets on Monday of the week prior to (9 days) General Meeting.
• VENUE Panera ~ St. Louis Bread Co., 10550 Old Olive Street Rd, Creve Coeur, MO 63141
• Link to past minutes and agenda.
• Link to potential tutorials, topics and speakers.
• Gary started under the impression that next steercom meeting would be first Monday in May. Realized his error near end of April.

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• SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Thornhill Branch
  • 

• SLUUG General Meeting
  • VENUE Graybar Electric Company Inc., 11885 Lackland Road, St. Louis MO 63146
  • BASE (Personal Computing):
    • Carolyn Peters (Mastercard): Bash for relatively new user. Long enough for main presentation, or do hour long intro followed by shorter main.
    • COORDINATOR: Gary
    • CONFIRMED: Yes
    • ABSTRACT: Yes
    • BIO: Yes
  • MAIN (Enterprise Computing):
    • Dave Forrest: LYNIS security tool
    • COORDINATOR: Gary
    • CONFIRMED: Yes
    • ABSTRACT: NO
    • BIO: Yes

• STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
  • VENUE Nick and Elena's Pizzeria, 3007 Woodson Rd, Overland, MO 63114
  • TOPIC: TO BE DETERMINED (TBD)
    • COORDINATOR: NONE
    • CONFIRMED: NO
    • ABSTRACT: NO
    • BIO: NO
      • Tentative (very): Eric Kauffmann: Linux at SLU
      • Tentative (very): Steve Stegman: sed tutorial

• NEWLUG Our Linux Users Group for Linux Newcomers.
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Bridgeton Trails Branch
  • TOPICS are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one topic.
    • NEWLUG home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which to take off
  • 

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• SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Thornhill Branch
  • 

• SLUUG General Meeting
  • VENUE Graybar Electric Company Inc., 11885 Lackland Road, St. Louis MO 63146
  • BASE (Personal Computing):
    • TO BE DETERMINED (TBD)
    • COORDINATOR: NONE
    • CONFIRMED: NO
    • ABSTRACT: NO
    • BIO: NO
    • Tentative by Chuck: Transparent SSL Web Proxy (Squid)
    • Tentative by Stan: Things to do with SSHFS.
      • Short beginner type thing, but needs to straighten out system – BIOS giving problems
      • 
  • MAIN (Enterprise Computing):
    • Programmable Gate Arrays vs ASICS vs RealTime Linux by Bryce Meyer
    • COORDINATOR: Gary
    • CONFIRMED: NO
    • ABSTRACT: NO
    • BIO: NO
      • Tentative:
      • 

• STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
  • VENUE Nick and Elena's Pizzeria, 3007 Woodson Rd, Overland, MO 63114
  • TOPIC: Deeper Dive into Docker by Chuck
    • COORDINATOR: Gary
    • CONFIRMED: Yes
    • ABSTRACT: NO
    • BIO: NO
      • Tentative: IBM and Red Hat by Sami Allum of IBM
      • 

• NEWLUG Our Linux Users Group for Linux Newcomers.
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Prairie Commons Branch
  • TOPICS are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one topic.
    • NEWLUG home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which to take off
  • 

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• First Thursday of month normally when SLACC meets. Will delay meeting for one week.

• SLUUG General Meeting
  • VENUE Graybar Electric Company Inc., 11885 Lackland Road, St. Louis MO 63146
  • BASE (Personal Computing):
    • TO BE DETERMINED (TBD)
    • COORDINATOR: NONE
    • CONFIRMED: NO
    • ABSTRACT: NO
    • BIO: NO
      • Tentative:
      • 
  • MAIN (Enterprise Computing):
    • TO BE DETERMINED (TBD)
    • COORDINATOR: Gary
    • CONFIRMED: NO
    • ABSTRACT: NO
    • BIO: NO
      • Tentative:
      • 

• SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Thornhill Branch
  • Delayed one week due to Holiday
  • 

• STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
  • VENUE Nick and Elena's Pizzeria, 3007 Woodson Rd, Overland, MO 63114
    • TO BE DETERMINED (TBD)
    • COORDINATOR: Gary
    • CONFIRMED: NO
    • ABSTRACT: NO
    • BIO: NO
      • Tentative: IBM and Red Hat by Sami Allum of IBM
      • 

• NEWLUG Our Linux Users Group for Linux Newcomers.
  • VENUE St. Louis County Library Prairie Commons Branch
  • TOPICS are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one topic.
    • NEWLUG home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which to take off
  • 

• SUMMARY: We put up a server on the Internet for email, it grew, and now we have to maintain it.

•  Minutes narratives prior to 2018 have been removed. 

• 2018-01-02
• 2018-02-06
• 2018-03-05
  • Situation at Contegix remains, running obsolete CentOS
  • Contegix has requested we move to more modern host system at much reduced monthly cost over standard rates (getting it free for past 10 years); have not yet received proposal.
• 2018-04-02
  • Mike Knight has been cleaning house to reduce volume [of Gary's email] that needs to be migrated
  • Lee has been discussing terms with Contegix for continued service
  • Lee has explored Digital Ocean – they can't send valid confirmation mail
  • Lee is willing to put up server in Bat Cave
  • Lee will attempt a June 30 target date for migration
• 2018-04-30 for MAY
  • We have new VPS (Virtual Private Server) – Michelob, abbreviation "m"
    • Located in Bat Cave
    • Debian 9
    • See Lee for access
  • Set goal to configure Michelob to go live by end of May
    • Work days to be scheduled
      • Web first half May
      • email & mailing lists second half May
• 2018-06-04
  • BOCK Transition Team met in Bat Cave on Wednesday 23 and Wednesday 30 May. Next session will be Wednesday 6 June.
  • BOCK Transition Team members Chuck Doolittle, Don Ellis (23 May), Mike Knight, Lee Lammert, Andrew St Clair, Stan Reichardt, and Steve Stegmann
  • Chuck Doolittle volunteered to set up *automated* LetsEncrypt free SSL certificates for websites on BOCK.
  • Andrew: We have running todo list on sysadmin tasks
• 2018-07-02
  • BOCK Transition Team met in Bat Cave on …
  • BOCK Transition Team members Chuck Doolittle, Don Ellis (23 May), Mike Knight, Lee Lammert, Andrew St Clair, Stan Reichardt, Steve Stegmann, and Gary Meyer.
  • Ongoing AMBER replacement wiki documentation

  •  NOTE Surrounding pasted notes with < code > and < / code > tags improve display ~ stanr.  

  • The XFER of all functions to BOCK on the VM at OMNItec (and off of Amber at Contegix) will happen TONITE after this SteerCom mtng. Lee has tested mail clients.
• 2018-07-30 for AUGUST
  • Stan reports that we need to arrange to set up separate cert for stllug.org domain since it doesn’t match wildcard. Must be sure and continue paying for it!
    • Lee points out we can set up Stllinux.org to redirect to stllinux.sluug.org and avoid the warnings.
• 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER
• 2018-10-01
  • Bock is humming
  • Lee has to install SpamAssassin
  • At some time may need to move to different hosts, but that won’t affect anything other than maybe a few hours downtime.
• 2018-11-07
  • November 2018 - *automated* LetsEncrypt free SSL certificates for websites on BOCK.
  • Lee reported it as done in October.
  • Consider that URLs www.stllinux.org and www.stllug.org both transition to http://stllug.sluug.org
  • Lee: Servers are running. Still need to do email filtering.
  • QUESTION (Stan): Do we have to worry about losing ownership of those two domains?
• 2018-12-03
  • ANSWER (Lee): Autorenew via Dotster – sluug, stllinux, stlwebdev
• 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
  • Lee Lammert and Mike Knight working on SpamAssassin. Extensive plan developed by Mike Knight.
  • QUESTION (Stan): Do we have to worry about losing ownership of the stllug.org domains?
  • ANSWER
• 2019-02-04
  • Lee: Everything's up and running thanks to Mike. New topic: DCC. What is it? Lee has no clue.
• 2019-03-04
  • Lee: Server is running.
  • ANSWER to previous question re Status of stllug.org: Lee is checking, something looks wonky.
• Lee: Verified this AM, .. stllug.org appears to be forwarding successfully to stllug.sluug.org, which matches the LE cert wildcard. Please check for other issues.
• 2019-04-01
  • Mike's still working on ClamAV, but too timid to pull switch on ClamAV or SpamAssassin.
    • Need consensus that settings are right
• 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
  • Gary would love to get a presentation on status of the servers, featuring Mike, Chuck, Lee
    • One possibility would be to have Andrew St Claire (or someone else) debrief them and give the presentation
  • Another possibility would be Lee could give a presentation on massive data recovery being performed evening of 2019-04-29
  • Dave has noticed different handling of possible spam by SLUUG email system, and would like presentation on evolution of the email system.
  • Dave & Stan would like long 'spammy' tag not inserted into subject line on SLUUG STEERCOM emails
  • From Mike Knight's email 3:31am 2019-04-28:
    • 1 Should the "Subject:" of probable sp_m be changed to indicate that?
      • no
    • 2 Should high scoring sp_m be rejected and returned to sender?
      • no
    • 3 Should moderate scoring sp_m be moved to a "junk" folder of the member's inbox by the system?
      • no

• SUMMARY: Our traditional Internet presence is with our main SLUUG web site.

•  Minutes narratives prior to 2018 have been removed. 

• 2018-01-02
• 2018-02-06
  • Copyright date on web page footer changed.
  • Appearance of the drop down list of Special Interest Groups (SIGs) has been completely cleaned up by removing defunct groups.
  • Stan R has been experimenting with altering the SLUUG General Meeting current design with new structure TEST design.
    • This structure is same as the one Andrew Latham provided for the STL LUG and is now being used for all of our active LUGs.
    • Have not yet been able to figure out color scheme coding.
    • Setting the right sequence of sections for smart phone display will be important; but, is proving to be quite hard to manipulate.
    • Most sections look fine on desktop FireFox browser display; but, some are missing on smart phone display possibly because of considerable errors in HTML.
• 2018-03-05
  • Stan R had wrong meeting date on SLUUG main page (it still showed January date) and failed to update SLUUG February topics on MEETUP page.
  • Lee Lammert updated SLUUG February topics on the MEETUP page.
  • Above errors, delays and omissions may have affected SLUUG general meeting February attendance.
  • ANNOUNCE for the week and our Google Calendar entries had correct information.
• 2018-04-02
• 2018-04-30 for MAY
  • Stan R has updated SLACC and Hazelwood meeting dates on respective update pages.
• 2018-06-04
  • Stan R is updating HTML pages on BOCK.
  • Special Interest Group meeting sites SLACC, STLLINUX and Hazelwood have been updated for June.
  • General meeting home page is a work in progress. What sponsor do I remove?
    • Lee: better question is "what sponsors do I keep?"
• 2018-07-02
  • Somehow the Sponsored Events half of the SLUUG Google Calendar lost permissions and had to be reset. That had caused loss of our abbreviated calendars on all web sites.
  • Andrew Latham provided some very constructive criticism on Stan R's effort to develop future replacement main SLUUG test page.
• 2018-07-30 for AUGUST
  • Stan is the magician
  • Stan: what happens come January?
    • Lee: we’ll just make sure Stan can’t sell the house.
• 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER
• 2018-10-01
  • Stan R had switched main SLUUG home page style to smartphone friendlier format.
  • Stanford B complained about incorrect feature. Stan R suggested Stanford B could volunteer to fix. (Sound of crickets chirping.)
• 2018-11-07
• 2018-12-03
  • QUESTION: Are there any significant problems with the new home page style?
  • ANSWER: (Don) I had problem selecting the Wiki from top menu. Menu vanished when I scrolled down below item #6. Menu is white text, transparent over pale blue background. I scrolled all the way to bottom to get another list of links. Dave suggested clicking on the menu head, which opens another page of links.
• 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
  • Stan R fixed error that kept website from displaying the ATTENDANCE sheets page.
  • QUESTION: Are there any other broken pages?
• 2019-02-04
  • ANSWER: Not that we know of. There's always one more
  • Stan is aware that there's a problem with top menu of main page, and it's not likely to be fixed in a long time.
• 2019-03-04
• 2019-04-01
• 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
  • 

• SUMMARY: We have presence on MEETUP.COM.

•  Minutes narratives prior to 2018 have been removed. 

• 2018-01-02
  • As of 31 December a total of 340 have joined with our MEETUP.COM site. See counts in the Other Kinda Stuff Report above.
  • (Stan) – Meetup is a PITA and he ends up missing things.
• 2018-02-06
  • A total of 348 have joined with our MEETUP.COM site, as of this January. Compared to 273 last January.
  • See https://www.meetup.com/Saint-Louis-Unix-Users-Group/
• 2018-03-05
  • A total of 360 have joined with our MEETUP.COM site, as of this February. Compared to ??? last February.
  • Unknown number have actually attended.
• 2018-04-02
  • A total of 367 have joined with our MEETUP.COM site, as of this March. Compared to 291 last March.
  • Stan wants someone else to respond to email inquiries and update calendar entries
  • One person attended March SLUUG meeting due to Meetup contact
• 2018-04-30 for MAY
  • A total of 372 have joined with our MEETUP.COM site, as of this April. Compared to 299 last April.
• 2018-06-04
  • Transferred other social media issues to separate category.
  • We continue to need someone to help utilize MEETUP.COM resource.
• 2018-07-02
• 2018-07-30 for AUGUST
  • Stan: Meetup maintenance is a PITA
• 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER
• 2018-10-01
• 2018-11-07
  • Gary Meyer has signed up with MEETUP. Stan R elevated him to CO-ORGANIZER status so he can maintain pages and events.
• 2018-12-03
  • QUESTION: Should anyone else be elevated to CO-ORGANIZE status?
  • ANSWER: (Gary) Yes. Any volunteers?
• 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
• 2019-02-04
• 2019-03-04
• 2019-04-01
• 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
  • Procedure of last couple of months is working; i.e. changing the subject line to reflect current meeting flags the Meetup as having changed.

• SUMMARY: Room reservations at Saint Louis County Library Branches are available on each first Saturday of October and April.
• HISTORY: We routinely reserve and pay fees for monthly SIG meetings at various Saint Louis County Library Branches.

•  Minutes narratives prior to 2018 have been removed. 

• 2018-01-02
• 2018-02-06
  • Thanks to Phil Bunch the April SLACC meeting date has been restored to the first Thursday of month pattern.
• 2018-03-05
  • Only the March SLACC meeting date remains out of sequence. Phil keeps an eye out for an 8 March opening.
  • Next deadline for reservations is 7 April; Stan & Phil Bunch will take care of it.
• 2018-04-02
  • Needed by SLACC and HZWLUG for last half of year
  • Stan & Phil have it under control
• 2018-04-30 for MAY
  • Phil Bunch had success with all SLACC meeting dates and using Rock Road locations. Stan missed Saturday registration for HZWLUG.
  • All preferred Prairie Commons dates were Library reserved anyway, and differing dates and locations had to be found. The Indian Trails Branch messed up confirmations.
  • STL County Library Reservation made for SLACC and HZWLUG done, two payments still needed. i
  • Our web page schedules updated, still need to update location information on our Google calendar and all MEETUP information.
  • Problem with activating new Regions bank card used to make payments.
• 2018-06-04
  • Was able to pay for rooms with new Regions bank card; but, one of the meetings may not be properly credited by library.
  • The new Regions bank card may need to be realigned with different Federal account number.
• 2018-07-02
• 2018-07-30 for AUGUST
• 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER
• 2018-10-01
  • Saint Louis County Library Room Reservations for SLACC and HZWLUG to be made October 6
  • Stan R unavailable; Phil Bunch had volunteered and Dave F. was to check in with him Tue 10/2
  • Phil agreed to handle making SLACC and HZWLUG reservations. Stan R provided paperwork to Phil.
• 2018-11-07
  • Library had new reservation system.
  • New reservation system revealed that one December 2018 session had not been booked.
  • Unfamiliar staff booked some HZWLUG meetings to wrong branch.
  • Corrected reservations, confirmed all and paid all.
  • HZWLUG and SLACC home pages have been updated to indicate scheduled dates and room codes.
  • The next reservation cycle will begin again the first Saturday of April.
• 2018-12-03
  • Gary: System wide county library have changed reservation procedures around Oct 2018; working out bugs, had problems a month or so, but now seems to be working well.
• 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
• 2019-02-04
  • This becomes important in April.
• 2019-03-04
  • Becomes important in April.
• 2019-04-01
  • It is now April. It's important
  • Stan's complaints:
  • Stan & Phil's notes posted to steercom last week, fill in later
• 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
  • Reservations for SLACC and NEWLUG made and paid.
  • 

• SUMMARY: We presume that our single web site isn't enough to draw younger crowd.

•  Minutes narratives prior to 2018 have been removed. 

• 2018-06-04
  • Internet Presence on Social Media other than MEETUP.COM site needs to be addressed separately.
  • Transferred other social media issues from Internet Presence to separate stanzas here.
  • We have no presence on FACEBOOK or TWITTER.
  • We have lost control of our presence on GOOGLE+ and YOUTUBE. We don't even know how to count anything there.
  • See counts in the Other Kinda Stuff Report above.
• 2018-07-02
• 2018-07-30 for AUGUST
• 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER
  • Stan stated MEETUP.COM editing is problematic.
  • Stan stated that we STILL don’t have control of Google+ and YouTube
• 2018-10-01
  • Andrew MAY have been creator of G+ and YouTube presence
• 2018-11-07
• 2018-12-03
  • We do NOT know how or what to count in Google+ NOR do we know how to metric videos.
  • We do NOT know how or what to count in YouTube NOR do we know how to metric videos.
  • We do NOT have any account access or control to our presence and videos on Google+ or YouTube.
  • No way to change meeting dates or set temporary hiatus in Google+
  • NOTE: Google+ will be shut down by the end of August 2019
  • https://www.cnet.com/news/google-reportedly-exposed-data-of-hundreds-of-thousands-of-google-users/
  • What do we do about videos that are up there? Do we have them archived? Do we need to capture them? Move them to U-Tube? Do we do nothing?
  • Stan R obtained hard drive containing Don's videos and voice recordings without having made any progress in trying to combine them.
  • QUESTION: Does it matter, do we know what to do, or does anyone care?
  • ANSWER: Gary will pursue G+; Don will pursue YouTube
    • Credentials, etc
• 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
• 2019-02-04
• 2019-03-04
• 2019-04-01
• 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
  • 

• SUMMARY: We have recorded many of our past meetings and made them available on the Internet.

•  Minutes narratives prior to 2018 have been removed. 

• 2018-01-02
  • Don is presenting on this on Wed Jan 10
• 2018-02-06
  • Stan R gave 1 TB USB Hard Drive to Don E for copying video and voice files.
• 2018-03-05
  • Don brought HD back to Stan R so he can mess around with it and get something done.
• 2018-04-02
  • With any luck, Stan R will report progress before moving to Vegas
• 2018-04-30 for MAY
  • Stan R has not yet made progress
• 2018-06-04
  • Stan: HD is still in plastic bag
• 2018-07-02
• 2018-07-30 for AUGUST
• 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER
• 2018-10-01
  • Dave suggested finding auto CC system. Requires research
• 2018-11-07
  • Stan R obtained hard drive containing Don's videos and voice recordings without having made any progress in trying to combine them.
  • QUESTION: Does it matter, do we know what to do, or does anyone care?
    • Stan will be using his stream editor to combine the videos
  • Lee: Don needs to discover SLUUG video credentials and place them at bock:/home/SLUUG
  • QUESTION: Please explain "Share gmail data with screichardt@gmail.com"
• 2018-12-03
• 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
• 2019-02-04
• 2019-03-04
• 2019-04-01
• 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
  • 

• SUMMARY: We try to record many of our meetings.

•  Minutes narratives prior to 2018 have been removed. 

• 2018-01-02
• 2018-02-06
• 2018-03-05
  • See how Stan's editing comes out and decide if we need to buy more.
• 2018-04-02
  • Don acquired 2 GoPro Hero4 cameras for evaluation.
  • Don will visit Schiller again to get quote for solution to requirements
    • Need external power, microphone, auxiliary lens, & remoter control for two cameras
    • Will get quote so we can allocate funds
• 2018-04-30 for MAY
  • Don returned 2 GoPro Hero4
    • one DOA
    • second camera demonstrated that file format is too bulky
      • second camera was defective
  • Don acquired directional microphone and mic mount for iPhone, and tripod for mic mounted assembly
    • Don is testing revised configuration
• 2018-06-04
  • Don: No progress yet – will revisit next month
• 2018-07-02
• 2018-07-30 for AUGUST
• 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER
• 2018-10-01
• 2018-11-07
  • Stan R obtained hard drive containing Don's videos and voice recordings without having made any progress in trying to combine them.
  • QUESTION: Does it matter, do we know what to do, or does anyone care?
  • Don: Microphone bought online is not adequate; will continue to search
  • Lee suggested going to Schiller's and getting shotgun mic with 3.5mm
• 2018-12-03
  • ANSWER: see under "Uploading Presentations" above
  • Don needs to visit Schiller's again
• 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
• 2019-02-04
• 2019-03-04
  • Don went to Schiller's & got camera, passed to Stan
• 2019-04-01
  • Don will go to Schiller's and check another camera
• 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
  • 

• SUMMARY: We seek financial support from the tech community.
• HISTORY: We are not good at it.

•  Minutes narratives prior to 2018 have been removed. 

• 2018-01-02
• 2018-02-06
• 2018-03-05
• 2018-04-02
• 2018-04-30 for MAY
• 2018-06-04
  • Nada
• 2018-07-02
• 2018-07-30
• 2018-07-30 for AUGUST
• 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER
• 2018-10-01
  • Gary commented on last week’s DevOps meeting - poor presentation but good food resulted in good attendance.
  • How do we get headhunters & job hunters to attend, resulting in good food.
  • Or, how to get commercial software vendors to sponsor meeting if we’re not in market for the software?
• 2018-11-07
  • The new style SLUUG home page no longer features a rotating sponsor logo display.
  • QUESTION: Does it matter, do we know what to do, or does anyone care?
    • Consider this a moot point, since we don't have enough to rotate (other than Lee).
• 2018-12-03
  • ANSWER: Ads are gone on new website
• 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
• 2019-02-04
• 2019-03-04
• 2019-04-01
• 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
  • 

• SUMMARY: The ANNOUNCE mailing is a weekly extract of our SLUUG GOOGLE Calendar of Events.
• HISTORY: The subscriber list has been populated from attendance sheets by a nominating subscription process.
• 2018-04-30 for MAY
  • Stan found himself remiss in nominating attendee email addresses from attendance sheets.
    • Procrastination is ugly. Until this weekend, none of email addresses for all of 2017 were nominated to ANNOUNCE and DISCUSS mailing lists.
    • Suggest we emphasise self registration at each meeting by way of our web resource sign up pages.
    • Print more cards with sign up procedure to hand out at meetings
    • If nobody other than Stan R will build weekly ANNOUNCE mailing, why bother with ANNOUNCE list?
• 2018-06-04
  • At a few meetings in May we pointed new attendees to self registration by way of our web resource sign up pages.
  • With the transition from AMBER to BOCK we switched to using web pages on BOCK where mailing list sign ups are broken.
  • Magnanimous Mike Knight provided a DNS procedure with local /etc/host which provided a work-around process.
  • Stan R was able to send out the ANNOUNCE mailing using that work-around process.
  • Andrew St Clair wrote a script to help massage ANNOUNCE text; but, GOOGLE changed calendar text structure, negating effort.
  • Gary M never got together with Stan R to see how ANNOUNCE was assembled and deployed (Outstanding action item since 2017-06).
• 2018-07-02
• 2018-07-30 for AUGUST
• 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER
• 2018-10-01
  • Lee loves it, scans it every time it comes out
• 2018-11-07
  • Stan R failed to provide 1 November SLACC meeting listing with extra expanded editing to stand out in the 29 October mailing.
  • Subsequent posting to DISCUSS list used extra expanded editing features.
• 2018-12-03
  • QUESTION: Would someone else (besides Stan R) take on generating the weekly ANNOUNCE mailing?
  • NEW IDEA: Per Lee: Send Announce email to Meetup group instead of updating Meetup page every month
  • PROPOSAL: scrape info from calendar into weekly ANNOUNCE; send ANNOUNCE to Meetup email address
• 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
  • Scraping info from calendar into weekly ANNOUNCE; send ANNOUNCE to Meetup email address
    • Would not work because of MEETUP.COM message size limitation.
  • QUESTION: Would someone else (besides Stan R) take on generating the weekly ANNOUNCE mailing?
• 2019-02-04
• 2019-03-04
• 2019-04-01
• 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
  • 

• SUMMARY: We have informational handout PDFs available http://www.sluug.org/resources/handouts/.
• HISTORY: The PDFs are generated with LibreOffice. The originating files are stored along with generated PDFs.

•  Minutes narratives prior to 2018 have been removed. 

• 2018-01-02
• 2018-02-06
• 2018-03-05
• 2018-04-02
• 2018-04-30 for MAY
  • Would be nice to have handouts to leave at ARIN meeting
  • Handouts would be excellent test of capabilities of Lee's new printer
• 2018-06-04
  • Does anyone NOT KNOW where to get our handouts, so that they could print and fold them?
• 2018-07-02
  • Does anyone KNOW where to get our handouts, so that they could print and fold them?
• 2018-07-30 for AUGUST
• 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER
• 2018-10-01
  • Should get handouts for SUSE meeting
  • If Lee can find right PDF, can make 20-30 copies
  • Lee has new printer
  • Stan was volunteered to tell Lee which brochures to print. Stan didn't volunteer.
• 2018-11-07
• 2018-12-03
  • QUESTION: Would someone else (besides Stan R) take on printing and maintaining an inventory of our brochures?
  • ANSWER: Lee will print them if someone will tell him what they want.
  • Gary: We still need someone to dictate content of handouts
• 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
  • Linux User Group Name on the Beginner Handout will be changed from Hazelwood to Newcomer by Stan R..
• 2019-02-04
• 2019-03-04
• 2019-04-01
• 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
  • 

• 2018-10-01
  • Gary suggests buying several of the packs @$1 to give out at meetings.
  • see unixstickers.com stickermule.com (same site)
  • Board ad hoc approved that Gary will purchase some stickers to use as giveaways.
• 2018-11-07
• 2018-11-07
  • Gary didn't realize that he was volunteered, since he is out of town momentum will likely be slow.
• 2018-12-03
  • QUESTION: Would someone else (besides Gary M) assume the mission?
  • ANSWER: Lee can't find source for printing tux key stickers
• 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
• 2019-02-04
• 2019-03-04
  • Lee: Andrew is making some. Seen on StlTech.
• 2019-04-01
• 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
  • 

• 2018-06-04
  • Thoughts about announcing workshops for summer meetings instead of actual topics. Prevent having to develop presentations. OTOH, would be helpful to have topics for the workshops, so not zero effort.
• 2018-07-02
  • Stan R posted to DISCUSS mailing list an item with SUBJECT: Possible SLUUG Summer Workshops, inviting feedback on the topic.
• 2018-07-30 for AUGUST
  • Stan: Being in the middle of summer, seems a little late to try anything, other than gather opinions for next year.
• 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER
  • Start planning next April for summertime hiatus
  • Schedule “workshops” in July & August
• 2018-10-01
• 2018-11-07
• 2018-12-03
  • QUESTION: Should/Would someone set up a www.strawpoll.me questionnaire to promote and evaluate interest?
  • ANSWER: (Gary) Should: Yes. Would: No. No movement toward setting up and pushing questionnaire.
• 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
• 2019-02-04
  • Still waiting for suggestions
  • Stan: more of a keyboard karaoke session
    • or maybe a hiatus through July & August
    • Gary: prefers keyboard karaoke over skipping
    • maybe tutorial
    • announce specific topic or make it a surprise?
• 2019-03-04
• 2019-04-01
• 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
  • 

• SUMMARY: We don't have enough volunteers to do everything consistently.
• Need new members who want to do stuff. Same as every month.

•  Minutes narratives prior to 2018 have been removed. 

• 2018-01-02
  • Lee has clipboard; has to give it to Don for entry into minutes
  • Stan has been snowed under & would like help updating list of previous presentations
• 2018-02-06
• 2018-03-05
• 2018-04-02
  • During Xmas break, grad student from Mississippi came to SNUG, SLUUG, & Linux. Gary needs to reach out to him and request the help he offered. Check sign up sheets from meetings.
  • Gary expresses concern that we're not getting new members. Need to find ways to connect. Do we need to cut back on presentations or find new people?
• 2018-04-30 for MAY
  • Two or three potential new members among new attendees
• 2018-06-04
• 2018-07-02
• 2018-07-30 for AUGUST
• 2018-08-27 for SEPTEMBER
• 2018-10-01
  • Stan has done awesome work. Promises to leave by around January.
    • If Stan leaves, many tasks he does will have to be done by someone else
  • How can we get someone to perform these tasks?
    • Website?
    • Weekly announce list?
  • Might have to reduce meetings
    • Main vs Linux?
    • Hazelwood, SLACC?
• 2018-11-07
• 2018-12-03
  • QUESTION: Any new volunteers to help?
• 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
• 2019-02-04
• 2019-03-04
  • QUESTION: Any new volunteers to help?
• 2019-04-01
• 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
  • 

• 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
• 2019-04-01
• 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
  • 

• SUMMARY: When somebody does something to help!
  • QUESTION: Did anyone do anything helpful?
• 2019-04-01
• 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
  • 

• SUMMARY: Food for thought ~ anything not previously covered that provides mental stimulus for thinking about improvements or problems.
  • Some ideas are Off-The-Record ~ NOT TO BE RECORDED!
  • Some ideas should be publicized.~ SHOULD BE RECORDED!
  • If a speaker believes something should not be recorded, the record operator needs to be notified.
  • Each speaker should initially declare whether an idea should be recorded or not.
  • Each speaker should initially declare whether GPS location should be recorded or not.
• 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
• 2019-02-04
• 2019-03-04
• 2019-04-01
• 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
  • 

• SUMMARY: We routinely rotate thru the following:
• June 2019 - BuddyNS SLUUG account due
• June 2019 - Missouri Annual Report for Corporate Legal Status due.
  • https://bsd.sos.mo.gov/BusinessEntity/BusinessEntityDetail.aspx?page=beSearch&ID=681250
  • Lee was considering changing mailing address
• July 2019 - SLUUG.ORG domain is domain automatic renewal? Is it with Dotster?
• October 2019 - First Saturday, reserve rooms at St. Louis County Library Branches.
• November 2019 - *automated* LetsEncrypt free SSL certificates for websites on BOCK.
• December 2019 - STLWEBDEV.ORG is domain automatic renewal?
• January 2020 - STLLINUX.ORG domain automatic renewal.
• February 2020 - SLUUG Annual Board meeting and elections.
  • Verify renewal of certs with LetsEncrypt
• March 2020 - Count Ballots
• April 2020 - First Saturday, reserve rooms at St. Louis County Library Branches.
• April 2020 - IRS Form 990-N for Tax Exempt Status. e-postcard.

• Everyone - Review the STEERCOM minutes, make corrections, act!
• Everyone - Talk to someone about coming to meetings.
• Everyone - Talk to someone about giving a presentation.
• Don Ellis - upload older videos to Google Photos and/or Google Docs & publish links
• Gary Meyer - Build spreadsheet to track domain name registrations. See http://bgp.he.net/ip/207.223.253.71#_dns
• Gary Meyer - Did not follow up with Noel about transferring the SLACC.COM domain to us.
  • SLACC.COM is now in use by someone else.
  • SLACC.ORG could be registered. SLACC.ORG available for sale ~ only $499
• Lee Lammert - Reminder: If anyone needs SLUUG critical info, it's stored on Amber /home/SLUUG
• Stan R. ~ Remind Gary Meyer to bring Penguins to meetings and hand out pamphlets.
• Stan and Gary should get together and discuss how ANNOUNCE is done
• Next March or April:
  • schedule workshops for July and August
• Possible presentation - suggested 11/7/18
  • Apple interfaces and accessories for audio & video (by Don)
• Possible presentation (Stan R item) - suggested 12/3/18 by Lee
  • Identify/contact couple who attended Lee's Pi presentation, brought Pi cluster running Kubernetes

• Monday, April 29th, 2019 for MAY
  • QUESTION: When was meeting adjourned?
  • Time: 8:39pm