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SLUUG Steering Committee Agenda - 5 August 2019

NOTE: Minutes posted on the Wiki are always unofficial. Schedules for upcoming presentations are always tentative. (Some more tentative than others!)

Location

Panera ~ Saint Louis Bread Company,
(at Old Olive and Olive),
10550 Old Olive Street Road,
Creve Coeur, MO 63141

Date and Time

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Start Meeting

  • Monday, August 5th, 2019
  • QUESTION: When was meeting called to order?
  • Time: 18:52

Attendees

Listed alphabetically by last name:

:?: * Chuck Doolittle

* Don Ellis

* David Forrest

:?: * Ken Johnson ~ Not There

* Lee Lammert

* Gary Meyer

* Stan Reichardt

* Steve Stegmann

Agenda Changes

  • Are there any additions, deletions, or other changes to sequence of items in the prepared agenda?
  • 2019-08-05
    • Changes YES/NO? NO.

Secretary Report

  • Don Ellis
  • 2019-08-05
    • Present

Treasurer Report

Balance as of 1 July $4,239.67
Balance as of 31 July $4,239.67

Calendar Report

  • SLUUG Calendar is a Google Calendar available on our web site.
  • This is a calendar of technical events in the Greater St. Louis area and surrounding regions.
  • Not all events are official/sponsored SLUUG events. All sponsored events are shown in red.
  • Items have been added and corrected by Stan R, Gary Meyer and Don Ellis.
  • Items listed on this calendar were used to feed the ANNOUNCE weekly mailing.
  • Events on HIATUS are NOT counted! Historical items are NOT counted! Only face to face meetings are counted!
  • Count of number of events listed, each month, as of end of July 2019:
Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Year
2011 xxx xxx 105 108 103 117 105 105 105 113 103 96 2011
2012 110 104 122 123 138 111 99 124 122 133 114 111 2012
2013 123 128 136 147 144 146 139 119 145 167 153 140 2013
2014 143 159 174 165 188 165 132 136 173 165 141 107 2014
2015 171 179 177 183 176 168 162 176 206 294 236 197 2015
2016 260 277 314 231 183 191 157 166 222 224 212 157 2016
2017 133 141 177 168 137 143 124 158 173 163 168 129 2017
2018 165 177 166 179 162 165 147 176 166 184 163 113 2018
2019 131 160 173 171 145 155 130 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? 2019
  • xxx - numbers not recorded.
  • ??? - Future Numbers.
  • Stopped counting general StL County Library events in May 2016.
  • Re-counted April 2016 without library events.
  • Count of calendar entries for May is down from previous months. No explanation is given.

Subscriber Report

  • SUMMARY Mailing List Report combined with MEETUP membership count, now called Subscriber Report.
  • Subscriber numbers (approximate) as of end of July 2019:
Year 2017 Year
List Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec List
MEETUP 273 285 291 299 301 302 304 315 319 325 336 340 MEETUP
ANNOUNCE 582 580 575 570 569 569 569 568 566 562 562 559 ANNOUNCE
DISCUSS 197 196 193 190 191 192 191 192 191 189 188 189 DISCUSS
STEERCOM 36 36 35 34 34 34 34 34 33 33 33 33 STEERCOM
SYSADMIN 20 20 20 23 23 23 23 23 22 22 22 22 SYSADMIN
Year 2018 Year
List Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec List
MEETUP 348 360 367 372 375 377 385 390 393 402 408 416 MEETUP
ANNOUNCE 556 544 543 543 545 542 535 534 533 531 531 533 ANNOUNCE
DISCUSS 188 188 187 187 187 187 187 185 184 184 185 183 DISCUSS
STEERCOM 33 33 33 33 32 32 32 32 32 31 31 31 STEERCOM
SYSADMIN 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 22 SYSADMIN
Year 2019 Year
List Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec List
MEETUP 416 423 432 443 452 464 466 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? MEETUP
ANNOUNCE 532 532 532 534 519 516 516 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ANNOUNCE
DISCUSS 184 182 181 182 183 183 191 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? DISCUSS
STEERCOM 31 31 31 31 31 31 31 ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? STEERCOM
SYSADMIN 22 22 22 22 22 22 16 ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? SYSADMIN
  • Numbers as end of each month.
  • Blocking of mailing list attachments not completely configured yet. This will be much easier to do on Amber.
  • ANNOUNCE mailing list.
    • Still no volunteer editor to do a quarterly or monthly newsletter.
  • Command used to generate these (as root on Bud):
    • /usr/local/mailman/bin/list_members list_name | wc -l (This doesn't seem to work on Bock.)
  • xxx - numbers not recorded.
  • ??? - Future Numbers.
  • - - dash indicates list did not previously exist.
  • We do NOT have any account access or control to our presence and videos on Google+ or YouTube.
  • We do NOT know how or what to count in Google+ NOR do we know how to metric videos.
  • We do NOT know how or what to count in YouTube NOR do we know how to metric videos.
  • No way to change meeting dates or set temporary hiatus in Google+
  • Don will investigate Google+ status
  • Don will place credentials for YouTube and any others on Bock /home/sluug

Attendance Report

  • Initial mail list subscriptions are prompted by attendance sheets.
  • Group leaders are responsible for taking attendance at meetings.
  • Blank attendance sheets are available here
  • Attendance numbers, as of end of July 2019:
Year 2017 Year
Meeting Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Meeting
Steercom 8 6 8 6 7 7 5 6 6 4 6 3 Steercom
SLACC 7 12 10 5 7 (10) 6 7 8 11 xx 6 SLACC
SLUUG 20 17 24 17 10 13 7 13 12 21 14 16 SLUUG
STLLUG 14 15 18 14 15 14 18 16 16 12 (27) xx STLLUG
NEWLUG 9 10 xx 7 7 8 7 5 8 5 7 9 NEWLUG
Year 2018 Year
Meeting Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Meeting
Steercom 7 3 6 7 6 6 5 5 7 5 5 4 Steercom
SLACC 6 6 7 9 6 6 7 6 7 4 4 5 SLACC
SLUUG 14 13 13 18 15 11 8 15 14 14 10 13 SLUUG
STLLUG 12 8 13 11 13 10 11 15 13 xx 9 9 STLLUG
NEWLUG 8 11 8 11 11 9 10 12 9 7 10 5 NEWLUG
Year 2019 Year
Meeting Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Meeting
Steercom 6 6 6 7 5 8 6 ? ? ? ? ? Steercom
SLACC 6 6 7 (6) 8 7 6 ? ? ? ? ? SLACC
SLUUG 15 14 13 18 12 15 17 ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? SLUUG
STLLUG 18 11 11 16 12 16 20 ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? STLLUG
NEWLUG 9 5 11 10 8 7 10 ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? NEWLUG
  • xx - numbers not yet recorded, attendance not taken, or sheet missing.
  • ?? - Future Numbers.
  • () - Number in parentheses is head count. Use head count if greater than attendance sheet count (or sheet missing).
  • * - sLUGs was STL Linux Users Group for Seniors with initial meeting 8 February 2015. Discontinued October 2017.
  • * - SNUG SuSe was STL Novell Users Group with lunch meeting. Discontinued December 2017.
  • - - dash indicates no meeting.

Meeting Review Comments

July 2019

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STEERCOM - July 1

  • HISTORY Steering Committee usually meets on Monday of the week prior to (9 days) General Meeting.
  • VENUE Panera ~ St. Louis Bread Co., 10550 Old Olive Street Rd, Creve Coeur, MO 63141
  • Link to potential tutorials, topics and speakers.

Independence Day - July 4 HOLIDAY

  • First Thursday of month normally when SLACC meets. Delayed meeting for one week.

SLUUG - July 10

    • VENUE Graybar Electric Company Inc., 11885 Lackland Road, St. Louis MO 63146
    • BASE (Personal Computing):
      • TITLE: Kinky Boots
      • BY: Brian Bilgere on
      • BIO: On File
      • SYNOPSIS: No, not the musical play at The Muny but rather a look at BSD's booting process vs Linux's boot.
        • Alternative: Brian Bilgere on loading Raspberrian onto the new Pi4. Depends on if MicroCenter gets him a 4Gig Pi in the next few days. MicroCenter ran out.
        • Alternative: Brian Bilgere on some BSD installation.
      • COORDINATOR: Gary
      • CONFIRMED: YES. He is still thinking as of 5pm July 1.
      • ABSTRACT: NO
      • BIO: YES. Old one.
      • REVIEW: Lee: Not a lot of detail, but not much potential; EFI not supported. Worthwhile (Lee & Stan)
  • MAIN (Enterprise Computing):
    • TITLE: Managing system backups with git
    • BY: Lee Lammert
    • BIO: On File
    • COORDINATOR: Lee
    • CONFIRMED: Yes
    • ABSTRACT: TBD
    • SYNOPSIS:
      • Many folks don't use git to manage systems because git is thought to be complicated,
      • this presentation will refute that theory and show how simple it actually is to backup
      • your system configuration (and anything else) with git!
    • REVIEW:
      • Lee: That was mine? Steve: Yes.
      • This was repeat of GIT presentation 5 years ago, but more content & slower pace.
      • Stan: Got a lot more out of it this time.
      • Gary: Many UGs try to come up with latest & greatest, but reviewing one from years ago can be more helpful.
      • Stan: SSH for example, after many times around, people got a lot more from presentation.
    • PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED, BUT NOT DONE: Programmable Gate Arrays vs ASICS vs RealTime Linux by Bryce Meyer
      • NOPE! Bryce told Gary on June 28 that the boss has him traveling that day.

NOTE BACK-TO-BACK MEETINGS

SLACC - July 11

  • SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation
    • VENUE St. Louis County Library Thornhill Branch
    • Delayed one week due to Holiday
    • Potential new member Vicky did not come.
    • Hooked up laptop to Library projector with HTML and sound. Played YouTube excerpts from TWIT.TV TechGuy episode 1606.
    • Stanford B attended, had lots of helpful questions relating to web pages and sponsored groups.

STLLUG - July 18

  • STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
    • VENUE We were able to use Graybar training room, thanks to Chuck Doolittle.
    • Nick & Elena's did call us this month because they were booking a larger party and we had to find alternate location.
      • TITLE: Packet Capture session
      • BY: Ken Johnson
      • SYNOPSIS: A brief sketchy summary goes here. Insert from Calendar.
      • COORDINATOR: Gary
      • CONFIRMED: YES
      • ABSTRACT: YES
      • BIO: Updated HTML with what he sent.
      • REVIEW:
        • Steve: it was all right. Lee: Lot of good details.

NEWLUG - July 23

  • NEWLUG Our Linux Users Group for Linux Newcomers.
    • VENUE St. Louis County Library Prairie Commons Branch. Next month will be at Bridgeton Trails Branch.
    • TOPICS are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one topic.
      • NEWLUG home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which to take off
      • Potential new member Vicky did not come.
      • Had one new attendee, found us on MEETUP.
      • Used Library's projector with HDMI/mini-connection.

Meeting Schedule

August 2019

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SLACC - August 1

  • SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation
    • VENUE St. Louis County Library Thornhill Branch
    • Stan: Andrew Latham showed up. Stan left latest password vault at home, couldn't get into Google for YouTube

STEERCOM - 5 August

  • HISTORY Steering Committee usually meets on Monday of the week prior to (9 days) General Meeting.
  • VENUE Panera ~ St. Louis Bread Co., 10550 Old Olive Street Rd, Creve Coeur, MO 63141
  • Link to potential tutorials, topics and speakers.

SLUUG - August 14

    • VENUE Graybar Electric Company Inc., 11885 Lackland Road, St. Louis MO 63146
    • BASE (Personal Computing):
  • Possible BASE:
    • TITLE: Demonstration Using SSHFS
    • BY: Stan R.
    • SYNOPSIS: A brief sketchy summary goes here.
      • How reliable is SSH connectivity out to BOCK? *
      • Short beginner type thing. Wants more experience using this, to figure
      • out the benefits, challenges, features, issues, problems, short comings,
      • and usefulness (use cases). Will combine CLI and GUI usage.
    • COORDINATOR: Gary
    • CONFIRMED: Yes
    • ABSTRACT: No
    • BIO: Yes
    • REMARKS:
  • Unknown:
    • TITLE: Transparent SSL Web Proxy (Squid) by Chuck D.
    • BY: Chuck Doolittle
    • SYNOPSIS: Transparent SSL Web Proxy (Squid) by Chuck D.
      • QUESTION: Is this what Chuck did at STLLUG on 20 June? *
      • Chuck has already done a lot recently. Maybe burnout coming. *
  • BACKUP: We want to have alternative topic on hand if primary speaker doesn't show.
  • MAIN (Enterprise Computing):
  • TITLE: [interim] Color factors in computer graphics output
  • BY: Jens
  • SYNOPSIS: Discussion of factors regarding rendering of colors, limitations of hardware/wetware.
  • COORDINATOR: Gary
  • CONFIRMED: No
  • ABSTRACT: No
  • BIO: No
  • REMARKS:
  • BACKUP: We want to have alternative topic on hand if primary speaker doesn't show.

NOTE BACK-TO-BACK MEETINGS

STLLUG - August 15

  • STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
    • VENUE Nick and Elena's Pizzeria, 3007 Woodson Rd, Overland, MO 63114
  • LINUX
    • TITLE: Docker 104, upgrading website containers with no outage by Chuck
    • BY: Chuck Doolittle
    • SYNOPSIS: A brief sketchy summary goes here.
    • COORDINATOR: Gary
    • CONFIRMED: YES
    • ABSTRACT: NO
    • BIO: YES
    • REMARKS:
  • BACKUP: We want to have alternative topic on hand if primary speaker doesn't show.
  • Gary will continue to explore different computer manufacturers (ex: Cray) who might be able to do presentation "Where are they now?"
  • :?:

NEWLUG - August 27

  • NEWLUG Our Linux Users Group for Linux Newcomers.
    • VENUE St. Louis County Library Bridgeton Trails Branch. Next month will return to Prairie Commons Branch.
    • TOPICS are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one topic.
      • NEWLUG home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which to take off
    • :?:

STEERCOM - August 28

  • Moved here due to Labor Day holiday
  • HISTORY Steering Committee usually meets on Monday of the week prior to (9 days) General Meeting. But not in September (Labor Day conflict). Move to Aug 28.
  • VENUE Panera ~ St. Louis Bread Co., 10550 Old Olive Street Rd, Creve Coeur, MO 63141
  • Link to potential tutorials, topics and speakers.
    • :?:

September 2019

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Labor Day HOLIDAY - September 2

  • Do we need to delay or hold STEERCOM meeting early?
  • YES: Move to Aug 28

SLACC - September 5

  • SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation
    • VENUE St. Louis County Library Thornhill Branch
    • :?:

SLUUG - September 11

    • VENUE Graybar Electric Company Inc., 11885 Lackland Road, St. Louis MO 63146
    • BASE (Personal Computing):
      • TITLE: To Be Determined (TBD)
      • BY: Volunteer Speaker
      • SYNOPSIS: A brief sketchy summary goes here.
      • COORDINATOR: NONE
      • CONFIRMED: NO
      • ABSTRACT: NO
      • BIO: NO
  • BACKUP: We want to have alternative topic on hand if primary speaker doesn't show.
  • :?:
  • MAIN (Enterprise Computing):
    • TITLE: To Be Determined (TBD)
    • BY: Volunteer Speaker
    • SYNOPSIS: A brief sketchy summary goes here.
    • COORDINATOR: Gary
    • CONFIRMED: NO
    • ABSTRACT: NO
    • BIO: NO
    • REMARKS:
  • Possible MAIN:
    • MAIN (Enterprise Computing):
    • TITLE: Programmable Gate Arrays vs ASICS vs RealTime Linux
    • BY: Bryce Meyer
    • SYNOPSIS: Using High End Graphic Cards
    • COORDINATOR: Gary
    • CONFIRMED: NO
    • ABSTRACT: NO
    • BIO: NO
    • REMARKS: * Previously scheduled, but not donE
  • Possible MAIN:
  • TITLE: To Be Determined (TBD)
  • BY: Scott Granneman
  • SYNOPSIS: A brief sketchy summary goes here.
  • COORDINATOR: Gary
  • CONFIRMED: NO
  • ABSTRACT: NO
  • BIO: NO
  • REMARKS:
    • If not utilized in August and if not teaching Wed nite. Topic???
  • Possible MAIN:
    • TITLE: To Be Determined (TBD)
    • BY: Erik Kaufman of St Louis Univ Research
    • SYNOPSIS: About research utilization of Linux at SLU.
    • COORDINATOR: Gary
    • CONFIRMED: NO
    • ABSTRACT: NO
    • BIO: NO
    • REMARKS:
      • Erik offered possibility in May.
      • Consider Erik the designated presenter, pending negotiation with Scott & Bryce
  • Possible MAIN:
    • TITLE: To Be Determined (TBD)
    • BY: Volunteer Speaker
    • SYNOPSIS: A brief sketchy summary goes here.
    • COORDINATOR: Gary
    • CONFIRMED: NO
    • ABSTRACT: NO
    • BIO: NO
    • REMARKS:
  • BACKUP: We want to have alternative topic on hand if primary speaker doesn't show.
  • :?:

SuSE Expert Days - September 19

  • The annual, traveling event is in St. Louis
  • We should:
    • try to make contact with organizers,
    • be allowed to introduce ourselves to the crowd,
    • leave pamphlets on tables.
    • Since this is the 3rd Thurs, Gary had hoped to solicit them to have some speaker for us at STLlug that evening (the event ends at 4-5).
    • ALERT!!! SuSE website no longer shows StL for users but still shows it for exhibitors & sponsors. ??? No hotel listed. ??? What's up?
      • Jason Yaklee is no longer coordinating with User Groups.
    • ALERT!!!! The annual, traveling SuSE Expert Days down as being Sept 19 in St. L. I.e TODAY!!!
      • Gary had hoped to solicit them to have some speaker for us at STLlug that evening (their event at hotel ends at 4-5).
      • Now SuSE website seems confused as to IF THIS IS IN StL!?!?!?!? If SuSE does come thru, we may need to bump Sam's NIXos to a later month.
        • :?:

STLLUG - September 19

  • STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
    • VENUE Nick and Elena's Pizzeria, 3007 Woodson Rd, Overland, MO 63114
      • LINUX:
      • TITLE: To Be Determined (TBD)
      • BY: Volunteer Speaker
      • SYNOPSIS: A brief sketchy summary goes here.
      • COORDINATOR: Gary
      • CONFIRMED: NO
      • ABSTRACT: NO
      • BIO: NO
      • REMARKS:
  • Possible LINUX:
    • TITLE: NixOS
    • BY: Sam Hatfield
    • SYNOPSIS: NIXos presentation from May 2 (per Gary M)
    • COORDINATOR: Gary
    • CONFIRMED: NO
    • ABSTRACT: NO
    • BIO: NO
    • REMARKS:
    • Language or distro? Different attitude toward repository (called "store")
    • In NixOS, what are the unique & thoughtful features distinguishing it from others?
  • Possible LINUX:
    • TITLE: IBM and Red Hat Red Hat
    • BY: Sami Allum of IBM
    • SYNOPSIS: A brief sketchy summary goes here.
    • COORDINATOR: Gary
    • CONFIRMED: NO
    • ABSTRACT: NO
    • BIO: NO
    • REMARKS:
      • Gary had face-to-face with Sami in April. Chuck talked to him in May?
      • Gary had follow-up face-to-face w George Switzer (309-264-8569, gswitzer@us.ibm.com) of IBM Power Server group. He said Red Hat division
      • is on a "quiet mode" with respect to initiatives within IBM and for now just continuing as before.
      • Acquisition finalized Aug 1 2019, watch for announcement soon
      • Hoping there will be announcements soon.
  • Possible LINUX:
    • TITLE: Oracle Linux
    • BY: Volunteer Speaker
    • SYNOPSIS: A brief sketchy summary goes here.
    • COORDINATOR: Gary
    • CONFIRMED: NO
    • ABSTRACT: NO
    • BIO: NO
    • REMARKS: Gary spoke on phone to Jeff Logullo of Oracle (our former Sun/Solaris contact) on June 14.
      • Jeff is researching if he can get a talk about Oracle Linux for us.
  • Possible LINUX:
    • TITLE: To Be Determined (TBD)
    • BY: Matt Skipton
    • SYNOPSIS: Kubernetes
    • COORDINATOR: Lee
    • REMARKS:
    • Lee spoke with Matt Skipton, might be able to do Kubernetes, but not this month
  • Possible LINUX:
    • TITLE: To Be Determined (TBD)
    • BY: Lee Lammert
    • SYNOPSIS: AMP stack on non-Linux installation
    • COORDINATOR: Lee
    • REMARKS:
  • BACKUP: We want to have alternative topic on hand if primary speaker doesn't show.
  • :?:

NEWLUG - September 24

  • NEWLUG Our Linux Users Group for Linux Newcomers.
    • VENUE St. Louis County Library Prairie Commons Branch thru end of year.
    • TOPICS are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one topic.
      • NEWLUG home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which to take off
    • :?:

STEERCOM - 30 September

  • HISTORY Steering Committee usually meets on Monday of the week prior to (9 days) General Meeting.
  • VENUE Panera ~ St. Louis Bread Co., 10550 Old Olive Street Rd, Creve Coeur, MO 63141
  • Link to potential tutorials, topics and speakers.
    • :?:

October 2019

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SLACC - October 3

  • SLACC usually holds a Linux configuration workshop - no presentation
    • VENUE St. Louis County Library Thornhill Branch
    • :?:

SLUUG - October 9

    • VENUE Graybar Electric Company Inc., 11885 Lackland Road, St. Louis MO 63146
    • BASE (Personal Computing):
  • Possible BASE:
  • TITLE: To Be Determined (TBD)
  • BY: Volunteer Speaker
  • SYNOPSIS: A brief sketchy summary goes here.
  • COORDINATOR: None
  • CONFIRMED: No
  • ABSTRACT: No
  • BIO: No
  • REMARKS:
  • Possible BASE:
    • TITLE: Command Line History
    • BY: David Forrest
    • SYNOPSIS: Bang is initial history feature, now we can enter editing mode.
      • Or, use history command and grep for desired string.
    • May have trouble presenting depending on family medical situation.
  • BACKUP: We want to have alternative topic on hand if primary speaker doesn't show.
  • :?:
  • MAIN (Enterprise Computing):
  • Possible MAIN:
  • TITLE: To Be Determined (TBD)
  • BY: Volunteer Speaker
  • SYNOPSIS: A brief sketchy summary goes here.
  • COORDINATOR: Gary
  • CONFIRMED: No
  • ABSTRACT: No
  • BIO: No
  • REMARKS:
  • BACKUP: We want to have alternative topic on hand if primary speaker doesn't show.
  • :?:

STLLUG - October 17

  • STLLUG is the St. Louis Linux Users Group.
    • VENUE Nick and Elena's Pizzeria, 3007 Woodson Rd, Overland, MO 63114
      • Possible LINUX:
        • TITLE: To Be Determined (TBD)
        • BY: Volunteer Speaker
        • SYNOPSIS: A brief sketchy summary goes here.
        • COORDINATOR: Gary
        • CONFIRMED: NO
        • ABSTRACT: NO
        • BIO: NO
        • REMARKS:
  • BACKUP: We want to have alternative topic on hand if primary speaker doesn't show.
  • :?:

NEWLUG - October 22

  • NEWLUG Our Linux Users Group for Linux Newcomers.
    • VENUE St. Louis County Library Prairie Commons Branch thru end of year.
    • TOPICS are usually determined by attendees. We usually cover more than one topic.
      • NEWLUG home page lists a number of topics to provide general directions from which to take off
    • :?:

Old Business

Server Admin

  • SUMMARY: We put up a server on the Internet for email, it grew, and now we have to maintain it.
  •  Minutes narratives prior to 2019 have been removed. 
  • 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
    • Lee Lammert and Mike Knight working on SpamAssassin. Extensive plan developed by Mike Knight.
    • QUESTION (Stan): Do we have to worry about losing ownership of the stllug.org domains?
    • ANSWER
  • 2019-02-04
    • Lee: Everything's up and running thanks to Mike. New topic: DCC. What is it? Lee has no clue.
  • 2019-03-04
    • Lee: Server is running.
    • ANSWER to previous question re Status of stllug.org: Lee is checking, something looks wonky.
  • Lee: Verified this AM, .. stllug.org appears to be forwarding successfully to stllug.sluug.org, which matches the LE cert wildcard. Please check for other issues.
  • 2019-04-01
    • Mike's still working on ClamAV, but too timid to pull switch on ClamAV or SpamAssassin.
      • Need consensus that settings are right
  • 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
    • Gary would love to get a presentation on status of the servers, featuring Mike, Chuck, Lee
      • One possibility would be to have Andrew St Claire (or someone else) debrief them and give the presentation
    • Another possibility would be Lee could give a presentation on massive data recovery being performed evening of 2019-04-29
    • Dave has noticed different handling of possible spam by SLUUG email system, and would like presentation on evolution of the email system.
    • Dave & Stan would like long 'spammy' tag not inserted into subject line on SLUUG STEERCOM emails
    • From Mike Knight's email 3:31am 2019-04-28:
      • 1 QUESTION: Should the "Subject:" of probable sp_m be changed to indicate that?
        • ANSWER: no
      • 2 QUESTION: Should high scoring sp_m be rejected and returned to sender?
        • ANSWER: no
      • 3 QUESTION: Should moderate scoring sp_m be moved to a "junk" folder of the member's inbox by the system?
        • ANSWER: no
  • 2019-06-03
    • Lee: It's running. Updates posted.
  • 2019-07-01
    • Lee: no updates this month. ClamAV & SpamAssassin are running, SA is giving scores, but up to user to decide what to do with them.
    • Gary: good that things are running, but would be nice to get a presentation on what is there and what it does. Would be good for everyone to realize what's been done to make things work.
  • 2019-08-05
    • :?:

Web Site SLUUG.ORG Maintenance

  • SUMMARY: Our traditional Internet presence is with our main SLUUG web site.
  •  Minutes narratives prior to 2019 have been removed. 
  • 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
    • Stan R fixed error that kept website from displaying the ATTENDANCE sheets page.
    • QUESTION: Are there any other broken pages?
  • 2019-02-04
    • ANSWER: Not that we know of. There's always one more
    • Stan is aware that there's a problem with top menu of main page, and it's not likely to be fixed in a long time.
  • 2019-03-04
  • 2019-04-01
  • 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
  • 2019-06-03
    • Stan: updated flyer is on the handouts page. Old material removed, added page of helpful links for the newcomer.
    • Stan has added a section on the main page with summaries of past meetings. Additional meetings will be added in near future.
  • 2019-07-01
  • 2019-07-28 Lee: CERT renewed automatically. Performed quarterly
  • 2019-08-05
    • The SLUUG web page has been expanded with "…a not-for-profit professional 501c(6) association…" introductory narrative description of our organization.
    • The SLUUG web page Reference section did not have a link to our SLUUG YouTube channel. This has been corrected.
    • All SLUUG web pages were not referencing the other sponsored group web pages. This has been corrected.
    • The NEWLUG sub menu "cdrom" files renamed to menu to match up with replacing DVDs with USB thumb drives and eliminate some confusion. Had to hard link NEWLUG "cdrom.html" to "menu.html" because of existing handout link reference. Hard link should NOT be removed.
    • All SLUUG web page links to defunct "Google+" changed to link to Mailing Lists.
    • The SLUUG web page links to attendance sheets updated.
    • The SLUUG web page links to handouts updated. Removed link to ancient and insufficient "Password Guidelines for Beginners" PDF.
    • The NEWLUG menu reference to "Password Guidelines for Beginners" PDF replaced with link to Creating Strong Passwords .
    • Added new logo with Arch

Web Site MEETUP.COM Maintenance

  • SUMMARY: We have presence on MEETUP.COM.
  •  Minutes narratives prior to 2019 have been removed. 
  • 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
  • 2019-02-04
  • 2019-03-04
  • 2019-04-01
  • 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
    • Procedure of last couple of months is working; i.e. changing the subject line to reflect current meeting flags the Meetup as having changed.
  • 2019-06-03
    • Gary mentioned we've been changing the title to get updated on search results. Stan says it's been fixed and now no longer requires title change.
  • 2019-07-01
  • 2019-08-05
    • :?:

Saint Louis County Library Room Reservations

  • SUMMARY: Room reservations at Saint Louis County Library Branches are available on each first Saturday of October and April.
  • HISTORY: We routinely reserve and pay fees for monthly SIG meetings at various Saint Louis County Library Branches.
    • We can always check for available Library spaces.
  •  Minutes narratives prior to 2019 have been removed. 
  • 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
  • 2019-02-04
    • This becomes important in April.
  • 2019-03-04
    • Becomes important in April.
  • 2019-04-01
    • It is now April. It's important
    • Stan's complaints:
    • Stan & Phil's notes posted to steercom last week, fill in later
  • 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
    • Reservations for SLACC and NEWLUG made and paid.
  • 2019-06-03
  • 2019-07-01
  • 2019-08-05
    • :?:

Alternative Locations

  • 2019-07-01
    • SUMMARY: We need to continuously consider and track alternative meeting locations due to often unforseen changes.
    • HISTORY: StL County Library locations sometimes available on very short notice.
      • We can always check for available Library spaces.
    • :?: SLUUG General ~ Graybar
    • :?: STLLUG ~ Nick and Elanias
  • 2019-08-05
    • SLUUG General ~ Graybar's planned outsourcing of their whole IT department jebordizes our hosting relationship.
      • We can always check for available Library spaces.
    • Lee: Contacted Charles Sharpe at OCI: offered location near Olive & 270.
    • Possibility: contact WWT (World Wide Technology)

STLLUG Location

  • 2019-06-03
    • Nick & Elena's has new staff who don't know how to use new ordering system for individual orders.
      • Decreasing enthusiasm about splitting bills.
      • problems with interrupting presentations to serve product.
      • Problem finding venue with space and projector.
    • J Greene's have heavy business on Thursday nights
    • Fallon's at Olive & 170 has trivia on Thursday; very crowded
    • Suggestions for other venues are welcome
  • 2019-07-01
    • No longer need to seek new location; N&E are doing much better now with new POS system
  • 2019-08-05
    • They did call us this month because they were booking a larger party and we had to find alternate location.
    • We were able to use Graybar training room, thanks to Chuck Doolittle.
    • :?:

Internet Presence on Other Social Media

  • SUMMARY: We presume that our single web site isn't enough to draw younger crowd.
  •  Minutes narratives prior to 2019 have been removed. 
  • 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
  • 2019-02-04
  • 2019-03-04
  • 2019-04-01
  • 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
  • 2019-06-03
  • 2019-07-01
    • Gary: need to get some kind of presence on Slack
    • Lee: not sure we want people who are on Slack. Not connected with actual servers.
  • 2019-08-05
    • :?:

Uploading Presentations

  • SUMMARY: We have recorded many of our past meetings and made them available on the Internet.
  •  Minutes narratives prior to 2019 have been removed. 
  • 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
  • 2019-02-04
  • 2019-03-04
  • 2019-04-01
  • 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
  • 2019-06-03
  • 2019-07-01
    • Don: been thinking about it
    • Gary: Stan's been thinking about it
  • 2019-08-05
    • Stan has uploaded 3 recordings. 1.5hr to render (with pitivi), 1.5hr to upload, 15min processing at other end. Net: 3+ hrs to send up recording.
    • Don: Contacted Stephen Pidgeon pidgeon [dot] stephen [at] gmail [dot] com, who is interested in helping with videos.

Camera and Microphone

  • SUMMARY: We try to record many of our meetings.
  •  Minutes narratives prior to 2019 have been removed. 
  • 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
  • 2019-02-04
  • 2019-03-04
    • Don went to Schiller's & got camera, passed to Stan
  • 2019-04-01
    • Don will go to Schiller's and check another camera
  • 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
  • 2019-06-03
    • Stan reports having problems with tripod stability. Handheld most of session.
  • 2019-07-01
    • Don is in discussion with Stan regarding tripod operation.
    • Don still hasn't billed for camera acquisition
    • Don plans to acquire another camera system
  • 2019-08-05
    • :?:

Sponsorships

  • SUMMARY: We seek financial support from the tech community.
  • HISTORY: We are not good at it.
  •  Minutes narratives prior to 2019 have been removed. 
  • 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
  • 2019-02-04
  • 2019-03-04
  • 2019-04-01
  • 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
  • 2019-06-03
  • 2019-07-01
  • 2019-08-05
    • :?:

ANNOUNCE Mailing List

  • SUMMARY: The ANNOUNCE mailing is a weekly extract of our SLUUG GOOGLE Calendar of Events. Historical descendant of our monthly newsletter. Previous editors have also styled it less of 1 liners of entire calendar and more of abstracts of OUR talks & outstanding interest items.
  • HISTORY: The subscriber list has been populated from attendance sheets by a nominating subscription process.
  •  Minutes narratives prior to 2019 have been removed. 
  • 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
  • 2019-02-04
    • Scraping info from calendar into weekly ANNOUNCE; send ANNOUNCE to Meetup email address
      • Would not work because of MEETUP.COM message size limitation.
    • QUESTION: Would someone else (besides Stan R) take on generating the weekly ANNOUNCE mailing?
  • 2019-03-04
  • 2019-04-01
  • 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
  • 2019-06-03
    • Stan: numbers keep going down
  • 2019-07-01
    • Gary: need a new editor. Stan stopped doing it earlier this year, only sending out occasionally
      • Trying to get someone to take over, unless a weekly announcement is no longer necessary
  • 2019-08-05
    • :?:

Handouts

  • SUMMARY: We have informational handout PDFs available http://www.sluug.org/resources/handouts/.
  • HISTORY: The PDFs are generated with LibreOffice. The originating files are stored along with generated PDFs.
  •  Minutes narratives prior to 2019 have been removed. 
  • 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
  • 2019-02-04
    • Linux User Group Name on the Beginner Handout will be changed from Hazelwood to Newcomer by Stan R..
  • 2019-03-04
  • 2019-04-01
  • 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
  • 2019-06-03
    • Stan R has updated the Linux4Beginners.pdf handout, updating LUG name and making major revisions.
    • The following is a test!
    • TEST:
    • Does anyone NOT KNOW where to get our handouts, so that they could print and fold them?
    • Does anyone KNOW where to get our handouts, so that they could print and fold them?
    • QUESTION: Would someone else (besides Stan R) take on printing and maintaining an inventory of our brochures?
  • 2019-07-01
    • Lee's new printer is much more easy to use when printing our handouts.
    • Lee has printed about ~25 new Learn to use the VIM test editor pdf version 2.3 handouts for Stan. Half given to Carol Peters after BASE June tutorial.
    • Lee has printed about ~50 new Linux4Beginners.pdf versions 6.0 thru 6.4 handouts for Stan.
    • Lee has printed about ~25 new Why Use Linux pdf version 3.0 handouts for Stan.
    • Stan R made multiple updates to the Linux4Beginners.pdf handout. Latest version is now at 6.6.
  • 2019-08-05
    • Stan R made another update to the Linux4Beginners.pdf handout. Latest version is now at 7.0.
    • :?:

Linux Stickers

  •  Minutes narratives prior to 2019 have been removed. 
  • 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
  • 2019-02-04
  • 2019-03-04
    • Lee: Andrew is making some. Seen on StlTech.
  • 2019-04-01
  • 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
  • 2019-06-03
  • 2019-07-01
  • 2019-08-05
    • :?:

We Need Help

  • SUMMARY: We don't have enough volunteers to do everything consistently.
    • We need new members who want to do stuff. Same as every month.
    • QUESTION: Any new volunteers to help?
  •  Minutes narratives prior to 2019 have been removed. 
  • 2019-01-02 MINUTES AND CHANGES TO AGENDA LOST IN SERVER ACCIDENT!
  • 2019-02-04
  • 2019-03-04
    • QUESTION: Any new volunteers to help?
  • 2019-04-01
  • 2019-04-29 (for MAY)
  • 2019-06-03
  • 2019-07-01
  • 2019-08-05
    • :?:

Notable Attendee

  • 2019-06-03
  • Grant from Micro Center will be attending to get back up to speed on Linux. Be nice to him.
  • Ulysses S. (Gary: ask Stan)
  • 2019-07-01
  • 2019-08-05
    • :?:

New Business

Any Other New Business

  • 2019-08-05
    • :?:

Recognize Useful Efforts

  • SUMMARY: When anybody does something to help!
    • QUESTION: Did anyone do anything helpful?
  • 2019-08-05
    • Gary: Stan has been extremely productive the past month or two. Recognition.

Blue Sky Ideas

  • SUMMARY: Food for thought ~ anything not previously covered that provides mental stimulus for thinking about improvements or problems.
    • Some ideas are Off-The-Record ~ NOT TO BE RECORDED!
    • Some ideas should be publicized.~ SHOULD BE RECORDED!
    • If a speaker believes something should not be recorded, the record operator needs to be notified.
    • Each speaker should initially declare whether an idea should be recorded or not.
    • Each speaker should initially declare whether GPS location should be recorded or not. (Stan R asks what the fsck is this line about?)
  • 2019-08-05
    • :?:

Recurring Requirements

  • SUMMARY: We routinely rotate thru the following:
  • July 2019 - SLUUG.ORG domain is domain automatic renewal? Is it with Dotster?
    • Yes it is automatic and is with Dotster.
  • October 2019 - First Saturday, reserve rooms at St. Louis County Library Branches.
  • November 2019 - *automated* LetsEncrypt free SSL certificates for websites on BOCK.
  • December 2019 - STLWEBDEV.ORG is domain automatic renewal?
  • January 2020 - STLLINUX.ORG domain automatic renewal.
  • February 2020 - SLUUG Annual Board meeting and elections.
    • Verify renewal of certs with LetsEncrypt
  • March 2020 - Count Ballots
  • April 2020 - First Saturday, reserve rooms at St. Louis County Library Branches.
  • April 2020 - IRS Form 990-N for Tax Exempt Status. e-postcard.
  • June 2020 - BuddyNS SLUUG account due
  • June 2020 - Missouri Annual Report for Corporate Legal Status due.

Follow-up and Action Items

  • Everyone - Review the STEERCOM minutes, make corrections, act!
  • Everyone - Talk to someone about coming to meetings.
  • Everyone - Talk to someone about giving a presentation.
  • Don Ellis - upload older videos to Google Photos and/or Google Docs & publish links
  • Gary Meyer - Build spreadsheet to track domain name registrations. See http://bgp.he.net/ip/207.223.253.71#_dns
  • Gary Meyer - Did not follow up with Noel about transferring the SLACC.COM domain to us.
    • SLACC.COM is now in use by someone else.
    • SLACC.ORG could be registered. SLACC.ORG available for sale ~ only $499
  • Lee Lammert - Reminder: If anyone needs SLUUG critical info, it's stored on Amber /home/SLUUG
  • Stan R. ~ Remind Gary Meyer to bring Penguins to meetings and hand out pamphlets.
  • Stan and Gary should get together and discuss how ANNOUNCE was done
  • Next March or April 2020:
    • schedule workshops for July and August 2020
  • Possible presentation - suggested 11/7/18
    • Apple interfaces and accessories for audio & video (by Don)

Adjourn Meeting

  • Monday, August 5th, 2019
    • QUESTION: When was meeting adjourned?
  • 2019-08-05
    • Time: 20:36
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