NOTE: Minutes posted on the wiki are always unofficial. Schedules for upcoming presentations are always tentative. (Some more tentative than others!)

Saint Louis Bread Company,
(at Old Olive and Olive),
10550 Old Olive Street Road,
Creve Coeur, MO 63141

• Wednesday, May 7, 2008
• 6:30 pm - 8:05 pm

• Lee Lammert
• Craig Buchek
• Stan Reichardt
• Gary Meyer

• Printed out minutes from Steering Committee meetings through March.
• Need to print out minutes for April.

• Balance: $1,071.50 as of 4/30/08

• Carl - Turn in cash drawer funds to treasurer.
• Credit card processing canceled.
• Craig - Submit receipt for voice recorder.
• Gary - Turn in receipt for domain registration.
• Open issues:
  • New IRS reporting requirement
    • Had to file online 'we're alive and well' with IRS.
  • Lee - Follow up drafting reply to Wash U.
  • Final bill from Wash U. - need to complete reply

• A nice Sponsor Letter and voluntary invoice was sent to sponsors for which we have contact info.
• Craig and Lee both received sponsorship checks from SyllogisTeks. (Thanks!!)
• Analysts International requested removal from any Sponsor list.
  • DONE – they are not listed on our web site.

• Some numbers:

• No - indicates no meeting.
• () - Numbers in parentheses are head count.
• ? - Question mark indicates attendance not taken or sheet missing.
• xx - attendance numbers not yet recorded.

• Some current mailing list subscriber numbers (approximate):

• We have migrated all lists from Majordomo on Michelob to MailMan on Bud.
• Blocking of mailing list attachments not completely configured yet.

• ANNOUNCE mailing list.
  • Still no volunteer editor to do a Quarterly or monthly newsletter.

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• Linux Configuration Workshop - No presentation.

• BASE: File Links: Over-easy or Well-done by Carl Fitch
  • Great. Impromptu, but generated good conversation.
• MAIN: Mac OS X Leopard by Don Benne (via Gary)
  • Very good. Covered command line quite thoroughly.
  • Voice recording is posted; slides pending.

• CANCELED.

• TOPIC: Restructuring Home Telephone Services by Don Ellis
  • Excellent, especially for last minute.
  • Low turn-out, due to last minute scheduling.

• Had some of our people there to show off GNU/Linux.
  • Got a few people to try out Open Source and GNU/Linux.

• TOPIC: Reviewed contents of HZWLUG Information CD-ROM disc.
  • Stan put together a CD, with PDFs with Open Source info.
    • Magazines
    • Introductory material

• TOPIC: Hard Drive Duplication by Carl Fitch
  • Really good.
  • Had projector problems.

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• Linux Configuration Workshop - No presentation.

• NOTE: Back to back meetings
• BASE: Setting up a firewall in 10 minutes with pfw on OpenBSD by Lee Lammert
• MAIN: MythTV by Jason Clark (via Craig)

• NOTE: Back to back meetings
• TOPIC: MythTV by Jason Clark (via Craig)

• TOPIC: TBD

• TOPIC: TBD

• TOPIC: Usually determined by attendees
• OPTION 1: Exploring the /bin directory (not done during prior month).
• OPTION 2: Partitions.
• OPTION 3: Anything else.

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• Linux Configuration Workshop - No presentation.

• BASE:
• MAIN:
• BACKUP CHOICE:

• TOPIC: TBD

• TOPIC:

• TOPIC: Usually determined by attendees
• OPTION 1: Exploring the /etc directory (not done during prior month).
• OPTION 2: Partitions.
• OPTION 3: Anything else.

• TOPIC: TBD

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• Linux Configuration Workshop - No presentation.

• BASE:
• MAIN:
• BACKUP CHOICE:

• TOPIC: TBD

• TOPIC: TBD

• TOPIC: Usually determined by attendees
• POTENTIAL TOPIC: Exploring the /etc directory.

• TOPIC: TBD

• VMware by Matt Skipton (via Lee)
• various Sun topics by Jeff Logullo
  • new version of OpenSolaris
  • Versioning filenames (snapshots?) in ZFS by Jeff Logullo? Jeff Muse? (via Gary)
  • New release of ZFS " " " " " " "
  • MySQL
  • VirtualBox (& xVM (Zen)) by Jeff Logullo?
  • Project Indiana, a new package mngmnt system ala apt/dpkg by Jeff Logullo? Jeff Muse?
  • Belenix & otherlive CD's based on Open Solaris by Jeff Logullo? Jeff Muse?
• Last.fm, Amarok,…free music downloads by Ed Howland (via Gary)
• GIMP by Scott Nesler.
• Encryption by Mike May S.J., Prof @ SLU, Chair Math/CS dept (via Gary)
• Natural Language Processing by SLU professor (via Gary)
• Stoneware webOS and Desktop Virtualization by Jack Loane (via Carl/Craig/e-mail)
• iSCSI
• EnterpriseDB (packaged version of PostgreSQL) (via Carl)
  • Would be a video-conference, so requires solving the logistics
• APV (Advance POWER Virtualization) Overview by John Hodge
• Demo/Using Scribus by Stan Reichardt
• Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 (RHEL 5) - still looking for volunteer
• Untangle Gateway Platform (instead of CentOS Linux) by Tim Dreste (via Stan R)
• AIX 6 - due out later this year (about November, IBM via John Hodge)
• Building a modern kernel by Ed Howland
• Using git by Ed Howland
• Remotely presented (video conferencing) topics
• Qt/KDE (TrollTech sales rep, via Craig)
• Linux(xBSD, etc) on Wireless (Suggested by Ed Howland)
  • Part 1: Theory and operation of wireless networks.
    • The 802.11 stack (relevant protocols).
    • Descriptions of terms, expansion of alphabet soup.
    • Security (WEP, WPA, WPA2)
    • Network types (ad-hoc, infrastrucure).
    • Modes (ad-hoc, managed, master, monitor).
    • Packet Types (management, data frames, beacons, probes).
  • Part 2: Practical Linux Wireless configuration.
    • Cards, compatibility.
    • NDISWrapper and native (devicescape stack).
    • Drivers
    • Tools (using wpa_supplicant).
    • Network Monitor.
• Status of BSD by Randy? John? (via Gary?)
• Wireshark sniffing by Chris ??? @ Savvis (via Clarence?).

• Have the current paying sponsors been asked to renew (with payment)?
  • Gary - Ask Ajilon about continuing $200 sponsorship.
  • Craig - Ask S3 - Strategic Staffing Solutions (follow up)
• Potential sponsors
  • Sun - Jeff Logullo
  • IBM - (John Hodge may have a contact)
  • Red Hat - Clark Smith (Craig to follow up)
  • Canonical/Ubuntu (Craig to follow up)
  • VMware - Matt Skipton
• Some old information has:
  • Annual sponsorship as $200 for Businesses and
  • $300 for Large Enterprise Corporations. This amount show on sluuginfo.pdf (18 April 2007) handout.
  • The $300 amount not viable, so sponsorships are $200.
  • Stan will purge any $300 amount from web site and forms.
• We should review them once or twice annually and establish an end date on recognition.
• We in fact recognize multiple entities as sponsors due to community support or services in kind.
  • EPC - STLLUG Installfest, STL BusExpo hardware use & handout printing support, SLUUG discount.
  • Computers & Things - STLLUG Installfests, STCLUG projector & STL BusExpo printing support.
  • Graybar - SLUUG general meeting site.
  • Hostirian - New server hosting.
  • K&S Pritchard Enterprises - Hosted STLLUG web pages thru to Spring 2007.
  • O'Reilly - discount book arrangement (now moot - suggest removing).
  • Law Offices of Rich McLennen - legal services as needed.
  • UMSL-MicroLabs - The St. Louis Security Group meeting lab area.
  • Omnitec - has been providing services in kind commensurate with other sponsors.
• Need sign about sponsoring our group for booth/table display at meetings and trade shows.
• More effort should be directed to find new sponsors.
  • No effort means no more new sponsors.

• Craig B. created script to notify when /var (or other partitions) exceeded 90% full.
• Mike Knight resolved problem with Membership JOIN page and Volunteer page.
• Stan R. made temporary revision of Membership JOIN page.
• Craig set up Google Webmaster Tools to look at our site.
  • Allows us to modify how Google sees us, and gather statistics.
  • Allows us to define www.sluug.org and sluug.org as the same site.
    • And choose which is the canonical name.

• Work left to do:
  • Make sure docs are up to date.
    • Add documentation telling users how to configure mail clients to use Bud.
    • Started documenting client email configurations, to help users migrate.
    • See users and mail_setup pages.
  • Craig - Work on finishing server builds.
    • Document changes to PAM to correct MAIL variable. (Craig)
    • More security, for SSH and otherwise.
    • Get offsite backups working. (Mike)
    • Publish SSH host keys on web page.
    • Standardize/regularize user accounts (IDs, password expirations). (Mike)
• Other work to do:
  • Better web site management tools
• Craig will get together with Mike and/or Carl to work on tasks in next coming weeks.

• Stan R. and Ted P.
• Stan uploaded several presentations.
  1. SLUUG APR 2008 MacOS X Leopard by Don Benne (sound only)
  2. STLLUG APR 2008 Restructuring Home Telephone Services by Don Ellis (PDF only)
  3. SLUUG OCT 2005 Don't Click on the Blue E! by Scott Granneman (PDF)
• Have not received materials from recent presenters:
  1. SLUUG APR 2008 MacOS X Leopard by Don Benne
  2. SLUUG MAR 2008 The Skills Nerds Need to Know - Send 2nd Request to Scott Granneman

• Noel asked that we allow current email users to keep their SLACC.com email addresses.
• The registration is paid up until 2009.
• Carl - follow up with Noel about transferring the domain to us.

• Membership drive
  • Need to print out name tags.
    • Omnitec will print them out and bring to SLUUG meeting.
• Cafe Press merchandise
  • Carl has money from purchases – needs to turn into treasurer.
  • Stan to add CafePress link to SLUUG web site when we get info.
  • Stan to link new membership page into SLUUG web site.
• It was suggested that we use Scott Nesler's logos.
  • We should ask Scott.
  • We should post the choices to STEERCOM for voting to make it official.

• Bob Nelson - wants to start an Ubuntu LoCo
  • Craig to follow up again.
  • EPC would like to hold the meetings.
    • Open 9-2 on weekends, close at 6 on weekdays.
    • Talk to Tony Lavasco and Frank Polston if we need to follow up.

• Lee suggested we create a Rails app on Bud to manage the group.
  • Member data - payments, expirations, etc.
  • Sponsors - expirations, etc.
  • Attendance
  • STL Ruby Group is writing a similar application.
    • RAMS - Rails Association Management System
    • We should leverage that, and guide it to our needs
  • Scott Nesler has built an app for attendance
    • Stan has plugged data into it for the year
    • Not sure if the app fits any of our other needs

• LDAP group
  • Need to restart
  • Suggested session(s) to "recap" (by Rich S?)
  • Needed to get LDAP implemented on servers
• Structure/timing/flow of the meetings
  • Need to leave enough time for "off-line interaction".
  • Plan on tutorials being planned for ~20 mins.
  • Main presentations should plan for ~1 hour (1.5 hours at STLLUG)
• Geek lunches.
  • Only 2 people showed up at downtown meeting
  • Lots of people at the Olive meeting, but location was too noisy
  • Possible confusion with having 2 meetings at the same time
  • Should these meetings count as official SLUUG meetings?
    • For the moment, no – keep them informal.
    • We should support them, announce them, etc.

• Terminal servers were removed last month.
  • Rich Seibel would like to use them.
  • All were in favor of allowing this.
  • Gary will follow up.
• Calendar
  • Stan implemented a Google Calendar.
  • Added link to show up on SLUUG web site.
  • Stan, Gary, Carl, and Craig have access to edit the calendar.
  • Looks nice and provides good info.
  • Link provided in weekly announcements.

• Blue skies are often over floatable rivers.

• Should we consider canceling some meetings during the summer months?
  • Attendance at summer meetings is often very low.
  • Lots of people on vacations.
  • Weather is often too nice to be inside.
  • Other evening outdoor events.
  • No consensus.
    • Our attendance is low.
    • But it breaks the consistency of always having meetings.

• Carl, Lee - Need to print out name tags for paying members.
• Jeff - Seek assistance from AIX gurus (Barry, John, Mike, Gary) to see if we want to set up his box.
• Barry - Follow up w/ John Hodge about a presentation in the near future.
• Barry, John - Talk to Rich Seibel and Dave Mills about AIX hardware they have.
• Lee, Barry - Get someone from IBM to talk about POWER6, AIX 6.0, etc.
• Craig - Follow up w/ Ubuntu LoCo person.
• Craig - Email Clark Smith @ Red Hat about getting someone to present on RHEL5, and $200 sponsorship.
• Craig - Email Jim Leingang @ S3 about $200 sponsorship.
• Stan - Link new membership page into SLUUG web site.
• Gary - Prepare Sun E250 for potential use.
• Everyone - Talk to someone about coming to meetings.
• Everyone - Talk to someone about sponsorships.
• Everyone - Talk to someone about giving a presentation.