NOTE: Minutes posted on the wiki are always unofficial. Schedules for upcoming presentations are always tentative. (Some more tentative than others!)

Saint Louis Bread Company,
(at Old Olive and Olive),
10550 Old Olive Street Road,
Creve Coeur, MO 63141

• Wednesday, September 3, 2008
• 6:30 pm - 7:45 pm

• Lee Lammert
• Craig Buchek
• Stan Reichardt
• Gary Meyer

• Have printed minutes through August.

• Balance: $1.536.77 as of 8/31/08
• Receipts (pending submission):
  • Carl - Annual registration fee to State of Missouri
  • Craig - Submit receipt for voice recorder.
  • Gary - Turn in receipt for domain registration.
• Money received: $45.00 for memberships.
• Open issues:
  • Lee - Follow up drafting reply to Wash U.
  • Final bill from Wash U. - need to complete reply
• Need suggestions for following up with and attracting potential Sponsors.

• Some numbers, as of end of August 2008:

• No - indicates no meeting.
• () - Numbers in parentheses are head count.
• ? - Question mark indicates attendance not taken or sheet missing.
• xx - attendance numbers not yet recorded.
• Dropped reference to LDAP meetings.

• Subscriber numbers (approximate) as of end of August 2008:

• Numbers will now be as end of each month.
• Blocking of mailing list attachments not completely configured yet.

• ANNOUNCE mailing list.
  • Still no volunteer editor to do a Quarterly or monthly newsletter.

• Stan R. uploaded several presentation items:
  1. SLUUG OCT 2007 Main: Intro to Distributed Version Control by Kyle Cordes (Handout Only)
  2. SLUUG JUL 2008 Basic: Sitebar by Lee Lammert + Sound
  3. SLUUG JUL 2008 Main: OpenSolaris - Production Ready! by Jeff Logullo + Sound
  4. SLUUG AUG 2008 Main1: OpenWRT by Jeff Muse & Main2: Linksys NAS NSLU2 by Jeff Logullo + Sound
  5. STLLUG AUG 2008 Natural Language by Kevin Scannell, PhD
• Have not received materials from recent presenters:
  1. SLUUG APR 2008 Mac OS X Leopard by Don Benne
  2. SLUUG MAR 2008 The Skills Nerds Need to Know - Send 2nd Request to Scott Granneman

• Carl filed annual report for 2008 during the August STEERCOM meeting.
  • Cost was $10.00, paid on Carl's credit card.
  • Craig's name and address were corrected.
• Corporation Info
  • Official name: ST. LOUIS UNIX USERS GROUP, INC.
  • Charter number: N00046271
• Latest annual report (6 August 2008) is now on file
  • https://www.sos.mo.gov/BusinessEntity/soskb/Filings.asp?681250#
• Filled out paperwork to use Craig Buchek as our registered agent.
  • Carl signed paperwork at the SLUUG meeting.
  • Need to send the paperwork in with $10.00.

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• Linux Configuration Workshop - No presentation.

• BASE: Commands You Might Have Missed by Carl Fitch
  • Good.
• MAIN: OpenWRT by Jeff Muse & Linksys NAS NSLU2 by Jeff Logullo
  • Extremely good.
  • The 2 topics dove-tailed together very nicely.

• TOPIC: OpenSolaris Device Drivers by Steve Stallion
  • Interesting.

• TOPIC: Meeting Canceled
  • Several people showed up anyway.

• TOPIC: Open Source Language Technology Using Statistical Methods by Kevin Scannell
  • Very good.
  • Topic title might have limited attendance some.

• TOPIC: Usually determined by attendees
  • Exploring the /home directory.
  • Had a good time.

• TOPIC: Nagios Demonstration Canceled
• Group discussion and review of coding
  • Had fun in the unstructured code review.

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• Linux Configuration Workshop - No presentation.

• BASE: (More) Commands You Might Have Missed by Carl Fitch
• MAIN: Virtualization and the POWER Architecture by Sammie Allam, IBM (confirmed, via Lee)

• TOPIC: TBD

• TOPIC: TBD

• TOPIC: Open Source Voting Software by Robert Citek (short - 20 minutes)

• TOPIC: TBD

• Because of Prairie Commons Library Branch September schedule we have to switch to 5th Tuesday.
• Meetings are usually on 4th Tuesday (would have been 23rd).
• The STEERCOM meeting will also be held this evening, one day early.
• TOPIC: Usually determined by attendees
  • OPTION: Exploring the /var directory.
  • OPTION: Partitions
  • OPTION: Anything else.

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• Linux Configuration Workshop - No presentation.

• First Saturday in October
• St. Louis County Library room reservations for next year

• BASE: TBD
• MAIN: VMWare 6.5 & Server 2.0 by Matt Skipton, VMware (via Lee)

• TOPIC: TBD

• TOPIC: TBD

• TOPIC: TBD

• TOPIC: TBD

• TOPIC: Usually determined by attendees
• TOPIC1: TBD
• TOPIC2: Partitions
• TOPIC3: Anything else.

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• BASE: TBD
• MAIN: Booting PC Style! by Rich Seibel (via Gary - need to confirm the date)
  • ABSTRACT: This is what happens BEFORE GRUB or LILO on x86 PC hardware with standard BIOS - stages 1, 2, and 3. A hardware talk, but some references to how it varies from OS to OS. NOT PXE or EFI.

These are some people who can present, and possible topics they can speak about.

• Don Hardaway and Craig Van Slyke (St. Louis University)
  • TOPIC: Open Source on the Desktop: Why Not?
  • Gary to contact them to request a presentation from them.
  • See first article here
• John Hodge
  • TOPIC: APV (Advance POWER Virtualization) Overview
• IBM (via John Hodge)
  • TOPIC: AIX 6
  • TOPIC: POWER 6 CPU architecture
• Wehrenberg Theaters (via Gary)
  • TOUR/DEMO: Digital cinema projectors
• Sanjiv Bhatia (or someone from UMSL, via Lee)
  • TOPIC: Open Grid Computing
  • December or January
• David Letscher (Prof of CS at SLU) (via Gary)
  • TOPIC: TBD
  • Still gone for summer. Awaiting details.
• Rick Clark (Ubuntu) (via Craig)
  • TOPIC: TBD
  • Not available until October
  • Might be able to talk to STCLUG and STLLUG
• Jeff Logullo (Sun)
  • TOPIC: MySQL - now a Sun product
  • TOPIC: Project Indiana, a new package mngmnt system ala apt/dpkg
  • TOPIC: Versioning filenames (snapshots?) in ZFS
  • TOPIC: New release of ZFS
  • TOPIC: Belenix & other live CD's based on Open Solaris
• Scott Nesler
  • TOPIC: GIMP (follow-up from previous presentation)
• Jeff Muse
  • TOPIC: various Solaris topics
• Ed Howland (via Gary)
  • TOPIC: Last.fm, Amarok, etc. - free music downloads
  • TOPIC: Building a modern kernel
• Stan Reichardt
  • TOPIC/DEMO: Google Calendar
  • TOPIC/DEMO: Using Scribus
• Tim Dreste (via Stan R)
  • TOPIC: Untangle Gateway Platform
  • TOPIC: CentOS Linux
• unknown (via Carl)
  • TOPIC: EnterpriseDB (packaged version of PostgreSQL)
  • Would be a video-conference, so requires solving logistics problems

These are some topics that we've had requested, or brainstormed, but need to find speakers for.

• Technology and Politics
  • Where do politicians stand on issues important to our group?
  • Issues - intellectual property, privacy vs surveilance, subsidies & incentives, Common Carrier
  • National, state, and local candidates and parties
  • Would need to do in Sept or Oct.
  • Tim Dreste might be able to get someone from Todd Akin's office to speak with us.
  • Craig is talking to someone involved w/ the Obama campaign.
  • Scott Nesler offered to present Do Good Gauge concept as a main topic or lead in.
• Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 (RHEL 5)
  • Still looking for volunteer; tried Clark Smith at Red Hat
• Fedora recent releases
• SuSE or OpenSUSE recent releases
  • Someone from Novell?
  • Gary Hollingsworth?
• HP-UX current release, features, future
  • Dave Mills?
  • HP corporate?
• iSCSI
• Using git
• CPUs
  • Features of modern Intel/AMD CPUs
  • x86-64
  • x86, x86-64, IA64, Sparc, PowerPC, ARM, POWER
• iPhone
  • Developing for (web, native)
• iPhone competitors
  • LG Dare
  • Samsung Instinct
  • Other Linux-based phones
  • LiMo versus Google Android

• Current paying sponsors have been asked to renew with nice letter in April.
  • Gary - Ask Ajilon about continuing $200 sponsorship.
  • Craig - Ask S3 - Strategic Staffing Solutions (follow up)
• Potential sponsors
  • Sun - Jeff Logullo
  • IBM - (John Hodge may have a contact)
  • Red Hat - Clark Smith (Craig to follow up)
  • Canonical/Ubuntu (Craig to follow up)
  • VMware - Matt Skipton
  • We should review them once or twice annually and establish an end date on recognition.
• Need sign about sponsoring our group for booth/table display at meetings and trade shows.
• More effort should be directed to find new sponsors.
  • No effort means no more new sponsors.
• Syllogistics paid twice for a corporate sponsorship,
  • the 2nd check will be returned with a nice thank-you letter

• Need to break into the Sun machines again and reset passwords so they do not expire!
  • Carl suggests connecting serial ports on bud to serial console on Sun boxes.
    • Could then boot into single user mode.
    • Would need to install minicom to access serial TTY.
• Should we setup our own DNS on Bud/Budlight & switch over.
  • Make our own servers authoritative for our own domains.
  • Would allow us to publish reverse records.
    • Primary has said they can allow this.
  • Would allow us to publish SPF records.
  • We could offer dyanmic DNS services to our members.
    • On a subdomain, such as users.sluug.org
• We have 2 Sun E250s, which are currently racked but not connected.
  • Carl proposed parting out those boxes.
  • Craig concurred.

• Craig has updated some of the documentation recently, as he built systems based on our docs.
• Backups
• Craig was to get together with Mike and/or Carl to work on tasks in July
• Work left to do:
  • Make sure docs are up to date.
    • Add documentation telling users how to configure mail clients to use Bud.
    • Started documenting client email configurations, to help users migrate.
    • See users and mail_setup pages.
  • Craig - Work on finishing server builds.
    • Document changes to PAM to correct MAIL variable. (Craig)
    • More security, for SSH and otherwise.
    • Get offsite backups working. (Mike)
    • Publish SSH host keys on web page.
    • Standardize/regularize user accounts (IDs, password expirations). (Mike)
• Other work to do:
  • Better web site management tools
  • Document useradd process.
  • Develop standardized 'Membership List' & same UIDs on all production machines.

• Noel asked that we allow current email users to keep their SLACC.com email addresses.
• The registration is paid up until 2009.
• Carl - follow up with Noel about transferring the domain to us.

• SNUG attendance sheets and temporary web page made.
  • Still need to add SNUG members to Discuss & Announce.

• We had 2 new memberships this month.
• Membership drive
  • Need to print out name tags.
    • Omnitec will print them out and bring to SLUUG meeting.
• Cafe Press merchandise
  • Carl/SLUUG/Lee need to reconcile demo merchandise
• Lee has proposed to sell pizzas as fund-raiser if continued insufficient Memberships & Sponsors.

• Need new STLLUG chairperson.
  • Craig can not do anymore

• Structure/timing/flow of meetings
  • Need MC to run schedule at meetings
  • Need to leave enough time for "off-line interaction".
  • Plan on tutorials being planned for ~20 mins.
  • Main presentations should plan for ~1 hour (1.5 hours at STLLUG)
  • Has been running more smoothly lately.

• Lee suggested we create a Rails app on Bud to manage the group.
  • Member data - payments, expirations, etc.
  • Sponsors - expirations, etc.
  • Attendance
  • STL Ruby Group is writing a similar application.
    • RAMS - Rails Association Management System
    • We should leverage that, and guide it to our needs
  • Scott Nesler has built an app for attendance
    • Stan has plugged data into it for the year
    • Not sure if the app fits any of our other needs
      • (app is developed on CakePHP MVC architecture).
      • Member Payment, expiration would be simple addition to existing table/screens.
      • CRUD functionality simplifies expanding the application with additional tables.
      • Compartmentalization of CSS and layout templates simplifies changes to the look and feel.

• SBE will again be at St. Charles Convention Center.
• SBE is on same day as usual STEERCOM meeting
  • This may be a problem as usual suspects won't feel like doing both.
  • Can we provide alternative?
• SBE support:
  • Need BUSINESS ORIENTED demos - e.g. Accounting.
  • Need dedicated SERVER to use and demo office functions (wiki, file sharing, ..).
• Will need booth helpers from 9:00 AM to 6:00 PM.
  • Especially need people for setup (9:00 to 11:00) and tear-down (5:00 to 6:00).

• None.

• None.

• Gary - Contact Don Hardaway and Craig Van Slyke (St. Louis University).
• Gary - Follow up on political topics for October STLLUG.
• Craig - Make sure change of registered agent form got mailed in.
• Craig - Contact Rick Clark (Ubuntu) about presenting at October or November STLLUG.
• Lee - Need list to print out name tags for paying members.
• Carl - Follow up w/ SLACC and SNUG leaders.
• Carl - Set up accounts for new members. (Lee has the info.)

• Barry - Follow up w/ John Hodge about a presentation in the near future.
• Lee, Barry - Get someone from IBM to talk about POWER6, AIX 6.0, etc.
• Craig - Email Jim Leingang @ S3 about $200 sponsorship.

• Everyone - Talk to someone about coming to meetings.
• Everyone - Talk to someone about sponsorships.
• Everyone - Talk to someone about giving a presentation.